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vlooi

Christian Backbone - or lack thereof.

by vlooiComment Published at 04:0904:098 comments8 comments82 Visits82 VisitsReport
Could someone please try to explain to me, why as Christians, are we so afraid to stand up for and say what we believe in?  I have just tried to answer a question in the general forum about batisms and Christianity and it strikes me that the rest of the world thinks that being a christian is to accept every one and everything, regardless.  Batisms are simply social events that require a lot of planning and social etiquette.  The point has long been lost.  Is it because we have no backbone and dilute our faith down to suite the rest of the world because we are too scared to be seen as different?  Muslims stick to what they believe in and have no problem telling others what they believe in.  Maybe there is a lesson in there for us.  God bless.

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pavementcracks70
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | pavementcracks70
Re: Christian Backbone - or lack thereof.

i was after a general discussion on baptism when posting the question rather then  didactic treaties on theology....i did ask to keep religon out of it and was bemused to say the least that you responded with it

our beliefs are personal and experienced in life and even christianity is opened to interpretation for we are not god

its sad that people are still using the term "true christian" like they have a hold on the total truth.. for me personally it shows a lack of social graces

my name is rue and im a christian however i dont own the truth ...i believe in god and having respect for all people ........and not judging others through my interpretaion or experiences but listening and learning

minti is not a platform to convert people to our thinking but a learning journey for parents....backbone? give me humbleness and wisdom any day and on that i  build my backbone

rue

 



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      whome
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | whome
Re: Christian Backbone - or lack thereof.
i agree with you on this one


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      vlooi
January 2008 | vlooi
Re: Christian Backbone - or lack thereof.

Actually, God specifically tells us to be bold and I believe, to stand up for what you believe in and not allow it to be watered down into what is socially acceptable.  Jesus was a true rebel, if you look at what He did.  He certainly did not do what was socially acceptable and He challenged people who tried to insist that He conforms.  I am sorry if you feel that I have been forcing my opinions onto others, and that Minti is not the place to do this.  If we cannot use our faith to live by in all areas of our lives - for me that includes Minti, then my faith is not worth mentioning.  I do feel that I have not tried ot force it down anyone's throat, but for some people, this would be the only time they may hear about Christianity  and I don't want to face my Maker and have to admit that I had the chance, but because I was too humble, I didn't say anything.  If you feel that I have gone overboard and imposed my views on others , please feel free to mail me.  I would love to discuss this.  Yours in Christ.

 



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           pavementcracks70
January 2008 | pavementcracks70
Re: Christian Backbone - or lack thereof.

well ofcourse you went overboard and your still swimming!

for the second time when asking for replies to baptism i specifically stated no religious views as the main domain of minti is not a arena for grandstanding our religious views ..do you understand now? its not about what i feel but about you overstepping the mark ...am i upset? not at the least i was just replying to your 'backbone'

if the shoe fits.....................................................................................................

did you know humbleness does not mean silence....great examples of humbleness JESUS....MARTIN LUTHER KING.....BILLY GRAHAM.. MOTHER THERESA ....FRANCIS OF ASSISI>>>>the list could go on for ever

you seem not to be listening how much clearer do i have to be ?? please dont preempt my beliefs by preaching to me or preempt god. when you meet your maker do you think hell get the chance to get two words in??

i think you answered your own question when stating   "If we cannot use our faith to live by in all areas of our lives - for me that includes Minti, then my faith is not worth mentioning."

rue



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                KathrynR1402
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | KathrynR1402
Re: Christian Backbone - or lack thereof.

Hi guys! Time to agree to disagree maybe?



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                     pavementcracks70
January 2008 | pavementcracks70
Re: Christian Backbone - or lack thereof.

 

ill agree to disagree on people preemting god

thanks for the hand up and out

rue



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KathrynR1402
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | KathrynR1402
Re: Christian Backbone - or lack thereof.

I think in the UK we've been too used to being in the majority and everyone "understanding the basics", but I think the current generation of parents werent even sent off to Sunday School for their parents to get some peace and quiet like they were in earlier generations, so perhaps now there will be a distinctive generation of young Christians that comes through prepared to say what they believe and why.

I was listening to a Radio 4 prog before Christmas when I had a mini-Eurka moment, when they said that this generation only values peer-to-peer advice (eg like Minti) not messages from on high (eg advertisers, government, doctors, teachers). Though they didnt say it, I thought "or from vicars/evangelists". So we will all have to find a backbone of our own, for what ever we feel passionate about, be it Christianity, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, or whatever gets people nervous/steamed up!

Having grown up CofE, I used to get very steamed up about "Christenings" as they were a major source of income in our church & I thought it very two-faced. Then I went to a church that insisted that parents take the Alpha Course before qualifying for a baptism and I began to see the value of having people come to you.... perhaps I'm being to cynical LOL! But I think in the 1980s most non-church babies that were baptised were because the grandparents wanted it. Horrifyingly enough those babies are now getting old enough to have their own kids, and neither the new parents or grandparents will worry about baptism, so it will probably become a non-issue. Just my ramblings opinion though!



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      vlooi
January 2008 | vlooi
Re: Christian Backbone - or lack thereof.
I agree with you.  Most Christenings are just social events and even people who call themselves christians do not seem to understand exactly what this is about.  Although there are a lot of people out there who call themselves Christians, simply because they go to church once in a while - sometimes even every Sunday, who have no real concept of what Christianity is about.  We are part of a Church that is under the auspices of the CofE but under the umbrella of Fresh Expressions of Faith.  Our services are aimed at people who have never been in a church and the message is very basic and simple, based on daily life and the issues that people are faced with today.  We are happy when someone off the street comes in during the service, and equally happy if they only stay for a few minutes, because we believe that our job is to get the message across, not to win people for Christ - He is capable of doing that himself.  If people don't hear the message ever, then we haven't done what He sent us out to do.  I am not a preacher and try hard not to come across as such.  I do hope people will tell me if I do.  God bless.


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