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A few quck notes.

Comment Published at 11:3911:3913 comments13 comments1147 Visits1147 VisitsReport
First of all I would like to send a HUGE 'Thank You!' to Minti, it's founders and it's members for the overwhelming love, encouragement, and donations. We answer a lot of the same questions in our e-mails every day but it's nice to answer them here where everybody can benefit from the responses.

Second, We've obviously had a couple of problems with our server being down over the last couple of days and we're working to fix it. We are up currently but only through a redirect. We also have a request in to add Minti.com to our "Thank You" page for everything you all have done. Hopefully it will drive some traffic and give more people the opportunity to discover this amazing community.

Third, I would like address the question of adoption. It's the subject of quite a few of the e-mails we've received and it's a very important topic. Brandi and I have both considered adoption and at one point were told it was our only option. The fact is we both want to adopt and probably (barring triplets) will. We would certainly like to have more than one child and don't want to do IVF more than once in a lifetime. We chose to go through IVF first in part because we have age on our side, in part because it's cheaper, and in part because we would like to have the experience of pregnancy, birth, and the feeling of having our first child like most other couples get to have. And as long as there is a chance to have a child of our very own, we're going to take it.

We realize that adoption is a beautiful, selfless act and anxiously look forward to the day when we are ready to say, "Let's do it!" and begin that journey. We know that the moment we walk through the front door of our home with that child, it will be as if we did give birth to him or her and we will never know the difference... because there is none.

Thank you for giving me a place to say all this.

S.

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bleshu
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2006 | bleshu
do what you gota do

My sister can't have children of her own.  She tried ivf many times but failed.  this put enormous pressure on her marriage due to the financial burden as well as the feeling of failure.  I dont know much about adoption but i do know its also costly and there are massive waiting lists. And the screening process is amazing and totally invasive.  Its not just a matter of dropping by after work and picking the one you want like some of you suggest.  My sister fostered a 6month old (currently 18months)mentally challenged little girl and the parents gave up parental rights so they were able to adopt her.  The parents have since had another baby (boy)and my sister has taken him too.  The parents are fighting for custody of the little boy and my sister has to take him to visits (that they fail to turn up to) every week, its horrible for her!  Its not the same as having your own.  When you are pregnant you have 9months to get ready and you get hormones that allow you to love this child instantly which gets you through the exhaustion.  My sister is having a really hard time and all the while she has the fear that this child will be taken from her.  I can totally understand why babyorbust want to try for there own child first, i think faced with the same problem, many of us would want the sme.  As for them asking people for money.... would you all be so critical if the story appeared on "a current affair" as a sob story???  I dont think so.... you would be sending them everything you could spare.  Like jess said, if you dont like it then dont donate. 

I am new to this website, and thought it was a great place for women to support each other, but what I have found sometimes is that it is a forum to place judgement.  Didnt your mother tell you "if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say it all???"



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Jessgore
October 2006 | Jessgore
Why can't we just let them be....

Seriously, why can't we just let them be, as if they don't have enough to think about then having to reply and justify their actions to every one who keeps putting them down...   THere is no justification needed... They are doing this and if you don't like it then don't read it, don't donate.  How simple is that.

I know they are not the only people in the world to have done this, ok it may be for different reasons but along the same lines it is for them and not for some other charity.  As clay says it is very entreprenerial, and the way they have set up the website is very well done. People can see where the money is going what it is being used for and that it is not being waisted on hot dogs and a night out on the town.   I also believe by the way they are doing this they are allowing us into their private life and giving us something in return, for some others who are going through the IVF program it might be a ray of hope or even just infomation on what they might have to expect if they are going through the same thing.  For me it helps me better understand what people in their situation have to go though.   And if you have not gone through this then how do you know how it makes them feel.  Well now I know.  

My hubby and I waited four years to have a baby, then we misscarried, we were weighing up our options and IVF was a possibility. Had I have had to go though it I would have been greatful to read what is going on as it happened as I did not know anyone one else going though the IVF program. 

So just let them be...  If you don't like it stop looking at the blog... 

I visited their website and as I'd like to donate more then one dollar I will have to wait a few days before I can actually donate but I will.  They have not actually asked anyone to donate, I have not seen anywhere where it says "Please will you donate to our cause". They said "IF 20,000 people donate," I believe there is a difference.  



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gma628
1.13 (Very Poor) | July 2006 | gma628
A few quck notes.

You should feel ashamed that you are expecting total strangers to help pay your costs.  You can afford to buy a house, why didn't you just stay in apartment if you knew about this.  You bought your house in November.  No one should feel sorry for you.  Before you go out to the public, you should have asked your family to help out, you will probably say I did, they can't etc but that is not an excuse or reason to expect others to pay.  You can get second jobs, your doctors office probably has a payment plan, you can charge some of the expenses.  You two are definately not ready to have a child.  You can't even pay for it to happen.  It's not like you have to pay for the treatment all in one shot.     I am going through treatment myself, my husband was recently downsized and  we can afford to pay for our treatment ourselves why, can we.   Because we are sacrificing.  You should try it. 



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      lillyanka
4.47 (Good) | July 2006 | lillyanka
A few quck notes.
If you decided to downsize to be able to afford to undergo fertility treatment, perfect. But that does not give you the right to come and act all holier-than-thou and censor other people's choices just because you don't agree with them. If you don't like it, don't contribute. Don't spread the word. Don't visit their website or their minti profile and blog. And that's it. Live and let live. Or perhaps you would like it if people went around criticizing you and your choices? If you have nothing good to say, then say nothing at all.


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           Izzy
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2006 | Izzy
AMEN!

I think I first heard it from Bambi. Something like "if you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all"... or something to that effect.



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                Jessgore
October 2006 | Jessgore
AMEN!
I was going to say that exact same thing....


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                allyp
July 2006 | allyp
AMEN!

I totally agree.. that was really harsh to say to someone.

but i do wish you all of the luck with everything and i hope everything goes well!!



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      Izzy
4.00 (Good) | July 2006 | Izzy
too harsh

In general, I see your points. This couple can take on extra jobs, can do this, can do that... but they chose to be, as Clay said, entrepreneurial in solving their dillemma. They are very resourceful, kudos to them. We only see what they choose to let others see, so none of us really know everything about them so we shouldn't be so quick to judge.



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      BabyorBust
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2006 | BabyorBust
A few quck notes.
Thanks for your concerns. We've received a lot of hate mail for what we are doing. Some people think we make to much money to ask for donations. Some people think we are too poor to have children. Some people think that if we can't afford the procedure we shouldn't have it. We've been blamed for the situation in Iraq, corrupting America (and it's future generations), and we've been called about every name in the book. I think we were a little naive when we took on this project. We didn't know people were capable of such illogical hate; or that those people would be so attracted to us.

All of this has taken a bit of a toll on us. We're exhausted from it. But the fact is that we believe in what we are doing and stand behind the decision we've made. Our amazingly philosophical cameraman this morning said, "There are no wrong answers when it comes to trying to start a family." That wins quote of the day in my book.

To address some of your criticisms directly, we bought the house before we started seeing all of those specialists. The payment isn't much more and we're building equity. Additionally, we don't "expect" anybody to do anything. We'd like to let people know our situation. We like to share our experiences. And if someone would like to help out by making a donation, we have provided a means and will accept with it great appreciation.   We have met some really amazing people and heard some really wonderful stories through all of this, many of them in the donation messages.

As far as other payment options, yes we could get second jobs, we could use a payment plan (and may still have to), and we could put it on our credit card. At 10% interest we could put the whole thing on there. But we plan on using the money saved to get a head start on saving for college. We both work eight to fivers and really do spend a lot of time on charitable activities and events, which take up many of our evenings.

I wanted to reply because I'm sure that if you feel this way there must be others and I wanted to address their concerns too. I would however like to request that if anyone else has something generally negative to say to just send me a private message. I just don't want to ruin the good vibe that this community presents. If you have genuine concerns I will always respond.

Thank you.
S.


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           matthew
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2006 | matthew
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Great response - I am happy to contribute and I am sure you two will make great parents with such an open communication style :)  Hang in there !


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           ClayCook
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2006 | ClayCook
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well done for answering so thoroughly.
in my eyes this thread of discussion has done more good than harm for your cause.


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                BabyorBust
July 2006 | BabyorBust
A few quck notes.
Thanks.


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      ClayCook
July 2006 | ClayCook
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that's a pretty tough comment - you obviously fee very passionate about it. i can totally understand your frustration, considering that you are also going through a similar situation, but are takling it in different ways.

personally i think its pretty entreprenerial the way they are doing it. i like the fact they spend time to write a blog/diary about it each day and give people an insight into the whole process and thoughts. but that's just my personal opinion.


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