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It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

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It saddens me to see so much hate, anger and turmoil on tv yet to view it on a community based website for parents. What have we come to? A bunch of bedraggled and angry mobsters hell bent on having the last word? I appreciate that words can hurt us deep, they cut like a knife and damage our feelings towards others, they make us full of negative energy in a world already full of upheaval. I can feel the tension and see the passion of those that use hurtful words, I feel the pain and srtuggle on the ones that feel crucified by the words of others. I am merely a person with a view to change the way people see each other, I try and balance bad karma as when people start on the road to 'how dare they say that', you discuss it with your spouse as it bugs you and riles you up inside, you lay away at night boiling with what you will write to make sure the other person knows your vieews and hurt you are by their words. We are all human and need to feel heard, we have views on everything and anything, we express how we feel on a daily basis by how we act, what we wear and how we interact with others. People like our children see all this, they pick up on how angry and upset you are, they pick up the vibes that someone out there has done you wrong. But no-one in this blog have i mentioned any names as there are none to mention, no where have I victimised anyone or intentionally hurt anyone. But I bet someone will feel the need to tell me their point of view about what it felt like when someone one here said something that really hurt them.....and you know what I don't mind at all. i don't mind listening to people say they are hurt, upset and feel sad but what I do feel saddened by is when it isn't just them informing us of HOW they feel but WHY and then stab the OFFENDEE in the back and CHOOSE to be nasty back. I have learnt a way to inform someone of how I feel without the other person being given a negative word back. There are a number of techniques that can help a person express their feelings of negativety without hrting the person that upset them. I learnt this through counselling and through reading heaps of specialised books, my son has several disabilities and he has very low self esteem due to his situation of how he views the world and how he feels within. He daily lashes out verbally and physically to the point where things have been smashed and wounds have occured-I have scars that show how he views the world and that includes me... But I do not tell him I hate him when he tells me he wants to knife me in the stomach and see all my insides spill onto the floor. I do not tell him I despise him when he says I am a terrible mother and he hates to me hell. At those moments in time he is angry, he is upset, he is voiceing his concerns to the world and saying 'I am scared and feel angry/upset and confused'. Of course I get upset and I often cry alone when he isn't around as the daily onslaught fills me with anguish of what the future holds for him. But I do not verbally bash him for his opinion for it is that-his opinion at that very precise moment. I do wonder at times if he really means what he says, to be told he hates me every day is a constant strain on me as a parent who has struggled mostly alone to deal with his effects on my daily life but I carry on each and every day and inform him that what he said to me hurt my feelings, the words were unkind and although they are his opinion and he is entitled to that, I still felt hurt by his words. i do not tell him I hate him or wish he wasn't here-this is pointless and uncalled for. Bear in mind this when wanting to tell someone what they said hurt and you may have listened to what they said it does not give them the allowance to say it and beleive that you would not be upset. For those that feel the need to write the 'truth' as you see fit-bear in mind your opinion will hurt someone and your action will cause a reaction-be aware on the verbal onslaught that may occure from what you have said. One more thing and this may seem to be very very bizarre...think before you say anything and think about whether you actually truelly believe in what you are about to say. Then if you truelly do-never and I mean never apologize for saying those words! People use sorry too easily, like it is a get out clause for them having an opinion that hurt someone! If you are really sorry then say so but in your heart of hearts and logically, if you wrote the whole hearted truth then never say sorry or else everything you just wrote was pointless and insignificant. Do not say sorry because you feel pressured into doing so, do not allow your feelings and thought to be changed due to someone saying they are hurt. You say 'I appreciate the way this has made you feel but I feel that my opinion means a lot to me and this is how I feel right now'. Access that others will feel hurt and that you empathise with their feelings but that does not mean that you now have to say that all you said was wrong so don't. People say sorry too often and then they do it again and we sit and say-hold on you said sorry when you did that last and now you are doing it again...they are doing it again because they are not sorry and never were, they just felt compelled to make you feel less hurt so they gave in and retracted how they thought to make you feel better and this in my eyes makes life very untruthful and confusing. We as a human race should be able to express how we feel and empathise if it upsets someone but not have to give in to others people's views just to keep the peace. No-one can walk all over you unless you let them so stand up and be strong, if you get walked all over in life it is because you are at that moment unable to stand tall-for whatever reason. We are not all strong 100% of the time, we flake out, feel the strain, be abused verbally and emotionally to the point where we can't stand up and say hey I don't agree with that. Be strong in body and mind and speak when you feel the truth really matters to you, if not you will never be heard and no-one will think you care about important issues. Gosh I can rant and rave too long but just like you I feel passionate about making this world a better place for my children to be in. Hugs and hope. www.AnimalAgentz.com http://darkangel6976.stumbleupon.com

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Arna
July 8th | Arna
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

Basically, you are saying that we should approach everything with an open mind and keep our reactions less negative.

I have to say, I learnt to do this from an early age, probably why I seem older than I actually am, and have found that the world accepts me more easily, though I'm sure there are those who find me intimidating as well.

Communication is a skill we all have, how we use it is our responsibility.  If we don't agree with something, then we should at least accept that some body does.  Instead of being negative in our responses, we should either walk away and not respond at all (I find that stronger than a nasty response) or take some time to think about how we should respond (would we like it if the shoe were on the other foot?).

It saddens me that supposed grown ups can act worse than a child, yet they are the ones raising children themselves.  What are those children going to be like if all they see is their parents getting stuck into conflicts all the time.  As parents, it is upto us to teach our kids that there are better ways of dealing with life's little pit falls.  It is upto us to make sure our kids have open minds and accept that everyone has an opinion that is just as valid as the next persons.  It is our responsibility to ensure that our children's behaviour doesn't make ours look like they are the parent.

Patience and tolerance are fading quickly from our world, and we need to work harder to bring them back.



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      darkangel6976
July 8th | darkangel6976
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

Yes and you said it perfectly! You have captured my theory correctly. try and be calm and think about what it is like for the person and respond with dignity not 'bitchiness'.

This is why I rasied the issue-to let people think about what we are teaching our children from having constant conflicts on here with each other. I know no-one is perfect and even I bump into the odd person who winds me up but I try to show my children that we don't have to be bitter and fight each other-we do have a choice in how we act.

Perfectly said Arna, well done!



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OzBinky
July 7th | OzBinky
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

Well written and how refreshing it was to read...

I look fwd to reading some articles from...(I'm off to check if you have wruten some now)

Take care

OB



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mumof2b
July 7th | mumof2b
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

I completely understand what you're talking about and I even agree.......the only problem is that in our everyday lives if there are people we don't get along with or are prone to argue with, then we can avoid them. On Minti though it can be much harder to do, especially with members who have been around awhile, as there is much more history there. Minti can go ages without huge disagreements, but they are still likey to happen as they are in our everyday lives and for most it's hard to stay out of them when you are feeling attacked or want your opinion heard.



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      darkangel6976
July 7th | darkangel6976
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

That's why I asked everyone to ask Minti for a block user button and also to ask for a 'reject gift' button. At least then you can have a little control. No-one has to respond to anything that is said on here though-no one puts a gun to your head and tells us you have to fire back at someone but it is human nature to attack the other person and it is usually without thinking that thousands of people are witnessing you doing this on the internet! think before speaking is a good thing to do but I appreciate that it can be hard to just let lie if there is an ongoing battle between users but this makes it hard on the rest of us who come for peace and help. But i do get what you are saying.



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           Izzy
July 7th | Izzy
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

There is actually an "ignore member" functionality in the works. It's just taking a bit long to smooth out the details.



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Izzy
July 7th | Izzy
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

Minti has so much more to offer. It has been a life-saver to a lot of us, especially those who are are stay-at-home moms like me. This is pretty much the only way to reach out beyond the walls of the home. And I think for this reason, members can't help but take things personally. They have invested a lot of their time here and sometimes forget to "step out" and cool off.

I think Minti is unique in that it allows members to share their opinions (sometimes too far, but that is a very small percentage).

 



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      darkangel6976
July 7th | darkangel6976
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

This is my very point, this site has a lot to offer for parents who ask for help in times of stress and strain and for those that feel the need to get nasty it brings it all down and this is very sad.



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llmunchkin
July 7th | llmunchkin
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

It seems that you have focused on one aspect of the site that involves quite a few long term members, and runs far deeper than you are aware.  It is only a small part of the site, and in all aspects of life there are differing opinions, and different versions of the truth.  If everyone were to agree on everything all the time, without challenging the status quo, we would not learn; grow; evolve; or improve our lives.

There is a great deal going on in this multi-tiered, unique, virtual community that is essentially self-governed.  It is easy to be involved in any of the many groups that you enjoy, and choose not to be a part of that which makes you uncomfortable.  Helping other's in Q&A, giving feedback on member's blogs, reading and helping other's with their advice, making new friends, emailing, lounge posts, there is so much more to the site to focus on.



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      darkangel6976
July 7th | darkangel6976
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

You have already told me that I am not fully aware of the 'personal wars' that run deep on this site, but again does it matter that I do not know what happened 6 months ago with certain members? No it matters that as a new member witnessing all this, will undoubtedly (and it has) put people off saying they need help or stateting their opinion.

For a newbie to come and then see all this it will not shine very well on the minti community as a whole-the last few reported advice/blos etc have be rather personal and war like and this to me is not what Minti should be.

But i do know that when you get a group of people together, there will be diversity and people will react. People need to learn how to react though as what they do will be what their children see and this to me is a very valid point.



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           llmunchkin
July 7th | llmunchkin
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

Reactions are often based on things learned from your past, and often your reaction is totally inappropriate to the current situation, and is often detrimental to your own sense of well being. Most reactions are subconcious, and your subcoscious is not highly skilled at reasoning, or fully understanding individual situations, which often results in over reacting.  We are all empowered to make a conscious decision about what you will allow to be stressful in your day, unfortunately a large number of people don't use that power. 

If you learn to develop good habits in your daily life, and respond to situations and deal with them as challenges instead of obstacles, you will be better prepared when life drops an unwanted nasty bombshell, or traumatic event in your lap.  So will your children, for they will be emulating their most influential role models; you, their parent.    It is easy to externalise and blame other people and outside events for how you feel, however if you take ownership for your thoughts, feelings and behaviour, you can make yourself a happier person.
 
For me, this is the difference between responding and reacting.  Respond:  Conscious; smart; calculated; positive; solution orientated; responsible; strong; often resulting in a long term positive resolution.  React:  Subconscious; silly; involuntary; aggressive; habitual; weak; often resulting in negative or little achievement.  I believe that if you work hard at responding sensibly to situations, eventually your reaction will closely resemble your response. 



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                darkangel6976
July 8th | darkangel6976
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

I've read the same books as you it seems! What you have written is very true and more people would have less stress if they were taught this very simple technique. There are plenty of books on how to observe instead of involve themselves in discussions that usually end with hurt and discomfort. I am a true believer in giving everyone a fair chance and when some one tries to manipulate me in any way it is heard but I keep an open mind, this is why I never responde personally to your mail.

You are wise in words here and what you say I hope you do yourself and that you teach these skills to all who will accept your help so that they too can have a choice.

People on here may react just as you say and yes most reactions are subconcious BUT and her'es the thing-people are choosing to respond with unsightly comments and this again is my point. I may be hurt straight away by something but I can choose to decide what I do with that hurt-hit back and be 'steriotypical' or decide not to engage in a fight.

I can usually get anyone to appreciate my point of view if they are willing to look at the bigger picture. I have stopped a person from shooting me in the hand because of how I spoke to them and I have been able to stop people from making life threatening incidents happen by letting them see that life can be different if people choose a different path.

Some may be born to hate as it is preordained in them and pushed down their throat by their kin but all people have choices and it is those choices that make us who we are and this is ulitmately this is what the world will see you as a human being.

I like your words and empathy here, you write well.



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                     llmunchkin
July 25th | llmunchkin
Re: It saddens me to see so much hate, anger...

Hmmm a big meal of food for thought; thinking is good for the soul, and it is always good to learn from others!  Have a lovely weekend, and when/if you are up to it, it would be very interesting to hear about how you handled that situation with your hand intact.

I agree choosing to respond with unsightly comments isn't very nice, and I think that we are all guilty of it at one time or another... The point is to be aware and try to improve oneself, self improvement is a lifetime challenge. ; )



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