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The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

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Hi guys,

I have cut and pasted this but please read as I have something to say . .

June 20, 2008 01:17am
Article from: The Courier-Mail


    * Accused child killer posted regularly on parenting site
    * Posted that she couldn't cope with motherhood
    * Said it was killing her

THE mother accused of killing and torturing her 18-month-old twins in Brisbane's south had documented the nightmare she lived trying to raise her young family.

The woman and her estranged partner were yesterday charged with murder and torture following the grisly discovery of the twins' decomposed bodies in their Sunnybank Hills home.

The woman's anguish was revealed yesterday when her postings - including photos of her babies - were found on a popular Australian parents' website.

The 30-year-old mother, who cannot be named, wrote that she was concerned she "sounded selfish" as she bared her soul.

"I would like to know how other parents of large families cope from morning to night," the mother wrote on the Bubhub website.

"I find that I am drowning since I had the twins. I just can't get everything flowing nicely any more in a routine, it is just do whatever, and at the moment it is killing me.

"I put on 30kgs while pregnant with them and haven't lost a thing since having them. It is all just blah.

"I started crying last night when I wanted to go out because in the legs I was fine, it was all the top half, it was all just out there and it looked awful."

The posts, also revealed on the Seven Network's Today Tonight last night, were made in December - at that time the woman's relationship was breaking down and police allege the torture of the twins began.

"I like things done at certain times, and the house cleaned, but I don't seem to have enough time to anything for myself or have the kids to have their baths or their dinner anymore before 7pm," she wrote.

The woman and her 28-year-old partner sat at opposite ends of the dock in court yesterday as police said the pair would be charged with two counts of murder and two of torture.

Police claim that between Christmas Day and this week, the pair tortured and murdered the babies at their Sunnybank Hills home.

They are still facing two charges each of failing to provide the necessaries of life dating to October 1.

The couple's four surviving children were yesterday taken to hospital by their grandmother for health checks while a shocked community rallied around them.

Right - Knowing about what these poor little angels went through has been very saddening to nearly everyone whom has either read it in the paper or heard about it on the news . . 

I don't need to tell you all how sad this has made me BUT I do need to say that for all we know this poor mum may have even been here . . This is something that we will never know BUT it is also one of the reasons why if I see a post in the Q&A section that concerns me I privately email the concerned member if a can . .

Sadly there are times when a person comes along and goes anon and that is to be expected BUT my fear is that if this person needs help then how does one help when you can't email . .  It is with a heavy heart that I HOPE and PRAY and the ADMIN of this GREAT parenting site do keep an eye out for any posts which may be a cry for help and that they do attempt to privately email this person themselves . . .

At the end of the day we all have to do what we can to help and support each other REGARDLESS of our likes and dislikes . . I know that if I can help I do my best and I can only hope that our ADMIN are watching over their flock . .

This is not a dig at our ADMIN as we all know that they are GREAT but I just want the ENTIRE community to be ever watchful as it is what us mums do and what friends do and even acquaintance's . .

PEACE BE WITH EVERYONE  . . . xoxoxox

 

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Jessgore
June 22nd | Jessgore
Re: The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

My mother read this to me..  Not this one but from another paper.. She shocked me when she said Minti.. Then actually got the paper to read it again, and it mentioned the website the woman had blogged this on..  My mother said Minti because she knew I was part of it.

I figure with every thing that goes here, at least one person would pick up on it.  Nothing seems to get by anyone here, lets hope that really is the case...

Very sad story...



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kseers
June 22nd | kseers
Re: The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

Thanks for your comments!  Yes, we should be keeping an eye out on Minti for mums (& dads) in need and I am sure they are out there.  Likewise in our community - we are so afraid of "getting involved" - even the neighbours had said they had wondered whether to call the authorities - and would definitely do so "next time".  The warning signs are there if people are prepared to notice them and act on them.  But we are afraid to.

Yet at the same time, I know when I said on  here once to a parent that if their child did not stop crying, and they were starting to feel angry that they should leave the room to calm down before doing harm to their child - and I was marked down negatively and commented on.  Unless we can admit that even really good parents can sometimes struggle with frustration and lack of sleep and depression, we are not really helping each other - or our children.  Just my thoughts.



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nattyj74
June 20th | nattyj74
Re: The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

Yes this is a most sadest of sad stories, but does anyone consider how the owners of this house must feel? I work with one of the landlords and i tell you what, she was in the house only 2wks fefore this came out and she is now so distraught that it is effecting her work. It was only that her mother went walking that morning and she saw all the police cars outside of her daughters rental property and got a call from her to say what was happening. Now they have the hard task of deciding what to do with the property after all the legal side of this is finished.

It sure makes me treasure my own monkeys(children) more than ever and may those 2 monkeys now fly with the angels.



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BigMamma
June 20th | BigMamma
Re: The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

Yes, you make a good point about reaching out to people in need.

But no, she is not a 'poor mum' by any means, she is a disgraceful evil woman who didn't deserve to have even one child let alone 5 or 6.

We've all gone through troubled times as parents, as humans, even, but how many of us starve our children and neglect them to the point where they die?

She is no 'poor mum' at all.

Rest in peace precious little babies xoxox



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Arna
June 20th | Arna
Re: The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

I want my studies to be started and finished, and I want this case!  It was a really big shock that 2 little lives are lost, but I'm cranky with the local community for not going to the authorities, when they knew there were problems. 

Objectivity is no problem for me, I know how hard it can be, and want to know if maybe post natal depression was an issue.  And what about the Grandma?  Why didn't she know something was wrong?  I mean, did she abandon her own daughter?

Sorry, but I really can't see how parents can get away with long term abuse and neglect.  Strange how both babies died the same day.  Tells me that there was more to their deaths than just starving and neglecting them, they had to have been drugged or smothered.

Really sad that these things still happen in our communities.  gone are the days  when our neighbours were a part of our extended families, something which has occurred due to the stranger danger warnings that are issued all the time.  Les said back when he was growing up, this would have never happened, there would have always been someone to help.  It is an issue that is new to our societies, and it will keep happening unless we take more notice of what is going on with those living around us.  I know I keep a watchful ear out for the 2 mums living close to me, just in case I hear those words that mean they need urgent help.



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cazza
June 20th | cazza
Re: The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

It is so sad, and so true with everything you have said..

Hope their kids will be well looked after now..

They have named the parents in our local paper down here yesterday...

xx cazza



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loopylisa
June 20th | loopylisa
Re: The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

I totally agree with you.As you know I have twins and after reading what this mum said about her feelings after having twins ,this was exactly how I felt.No one can prepare you for the absolute exhaustion and stress that comes with having twins.The work involved is relentless ans is a never ending circle of feeding,changing and washing etc.In my pregnancy I put on 5 stones in weight.I felt fat and disgusting but it didn't stop me being a good mum.I had no routine for at least 8 months and hardly slept.

At six months old my doctor prescribed my twins a sleeping medicine- phenergan because they simply wouldn't sleep.In fact they didn't sleep through the night until they were 19 months old.I had an absolute shit partner and he didn't help me in any way shape or form.In fact he was a right B.

I also noticed that she had four other children.Surely one of these children must have told someone-their grandparents for instance that their mum maybe wasn't coping or even one of the neighbours.People in society and neighbourhoods turn a blind eye too often these days and I don't think that a parenting site can be partly held responsible for what this woman did.

I've been there and my experience totally put me off having anymore children.I can honestly say I hated my life at that point.But at the end of the day children do not ask to come into this world and as parents and human beings we have an obligation to nurture and care for our children

This article has really annoyed me .I think it's desperately sad for the children left behind ,the grandparents and mostly those defenseless, innocent children.

I have been there but no way did I ever contemplate killing my kids.

This is desperately sad and I find it very disturbing, don't forget it wasn't only her that has been charged but her partner also.I would imagine there is more to this than meets the eye.

Why would a man help murder his children?  I'm not sure anyone could foresee these tragic events.



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nell18-3
June 20th | nell18-3
Re: The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

Great point Kellz

This is so sad

xxx

 



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cathbusymum
June 20th | cathbusymum
Re: The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

Good point Kellz. We should all be very considerate in answering questions posted.

Having twins myself, its hard, but you guys do make a difference. I know I can whinge or vent in my blog and no one puts me down. I get the encouragement I need.

So very sad for those babies.



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emmie
June 20th | emmie
Re: The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

What a sad story that is those poor little angels



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alishas-mummy
June 20th | alishas-mummy
Re: The SAD story about the twins that died in Q'land

I agree Kellz...
Sometimes, when a parent is already on the edge, it only takes a few blunt words to push someone over...

We, as parents, all make mistakes..
We can make decisions based on impulses, and sometimes we make the wrong ones..
But rather than criticise others for it, we should be supportive...
Who knows whether your harsh words of criticisms could push someone over the edge...

It's such a sad thing for these twin babies :( :( :(

Thank you for posting Kellz...



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