Oh Helen ,

Im so sorry to hear your son is treating his grandparents in this way but i bet its from the encouragement of his father . I so feel for you you must be livid .

Thinking of you

Luv Emz xx

Hmm. I dont know, I dont get the situation, but I dont think I see hatred or contempt,I think I see fear. Could he be fearfull of how his father would act if he had contact with you? This I do see he did not challenge your Dad, he hid out of the way. He may be an Adult at 18yrs, but I still think there is a scared and confused little boy in that head.

Helen my thoughts. Most seeds planted grow, some grow quickly and shadow the little ones, but in time the little ones can find their way to the light, but it takes courage and energy. You found that courage and energy, I still think the child in Chris, has to find it within. You have a head start, but you planted a seed in him as your parents did in you, I do believe that it will find the light as you did, but it will take time and energy. I hope he finds the gift before his father destroy's him completely.

Luv,Winnie.xxxx

 Yeah I heard about the situation with C from mum and can only imagin how upset she must have been over that!!! Poor old mum!!!!!!!! I can´t imagine how it must feel to you as a mother to have your child behave like that - fair enough to you as the mother but not to the grandparents or anyone else for that matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I honestly don´t know what I would do I would be so fuming!!!!!!! But I am still roting for him in the sense that WHEN his dads money and lies come to an end he will come to his senses and return to you - I so sincerely hope for that!!!!!!!!!!!!

But we just have o keep on praying for him and hope for the best hey?

Hang on in there, we are coming over soooooooooon!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Helen

I feel your anger but you can not blame yourself for how others behave you have been a good mum to Chris but at the end of the day he is responsible for his own decisions and actions and it's a shame he has turned out this way but then hanging around with x probably hasn't helped.  Your poor mum and dad must be sooo upset because they don't deserve that kind of treatment but you can't protect them all.  Well at least Thomas got all his stuff and Daniel had a good day, I hope.  People like x always show their true colours because even with all the acting they can not hide who they really are and if Chris has turned out like him (I hope that is not the case) then he will have to learn from his own mistakes, I hope.  How did Daniel feel about this, have you had a chance to speak to him yet????

Hugs and kisses for you and your mum and dad

 Dear Helen, my thoughts are so with you & your Mum & Dad.....I'm so sorry, what could have happened to your son to treat his grandparents in such a appalling manner .  Also that he acted this way in front of Daniel. Your dear  Mum must have been devastated and i can understand how broken hearted you must be feeling.

That so & so has alot to answer to and one day all his lies will come back to bite him, that's for sure.

My prayers are with you & your family.

Love Janice xxxxx

OH sweetie... What a sad time for you all.  There's no doubt that  your son acted shamefully in the situation.  Mind you, I doubt it would have helped that -x was there.  I wonder if it would have been a different story if your parents had run into him in the street on his own instead? 

I blame -x.  As the oldest child, he's spent more of his life being exposed to -x's way of behaving, and now he's made the mistake of cutting you out which was probably the one good family influence he had! 

This is all just so sad... And I feel so sad for you all.  I wish it could all improve...

I hope as well as you do he comes to His senses one day, and realise its not good to bottle all this up, and hurt the ones that love him..

Hope your mum feels better soon,, and your children are very lucky to have you both in their lives..

xx cazza

please nell dont be embarrased. unfortunately a lot of innocent people in the world have been hurt by "loved ones" and others that should be their "loved ones " but that doesnt mean that the person who is hurting the other is always correct

there are a lot of injustice in  the world sometimes (not always ) life  has a strange way of coming around hence" what goes around comes around"

its hard but you sometimes you have to "bide your time" tell other people "finally witness first hand and wake up to the truth"

its not easy as life is short but so many people in life have bitten their tongue as sometimes "injustice comes back to justice"

cheers annie

hugs chicki. i feel for u i really do. All I can say ( and this is from my experience as "chris") he has been told the wrong things and made to believe lies. One thing is that one day he will get those "blinkers" off his eyes and see the truth and he will come running back.

HUGS and Love to ya Helen.

Liz

Oh Nell I really don't think you should feel ashamed.  You have done a great job as a mum.  He is your son and he is listening to the lies of his father and believing them.  He may be making bad choices but he is hurting too.  I think that the only thing to do is to just keep loving him and praying that he will see the truth and that is really all you can do.  I do feel for your parents too because you are right they don't deserve this - no-one does!!  I do hope Daniel is having a good time with him though and maybe he can be the voice of reason! 

Hugs to you Nell. You are going through a really tough time and I wish I could do something more than comment here.

You are a fantastic person and soon something good will come your way.

Oh jeez thats so upsetting. Im really sorry for your parents to have to go thru that how mean.

Oh that is so sad for your parents. But unfortunately we all take that risk when we bring up our kids - we can get it 100% right (I wish!) and still they can choose to act against that upbringing. But YOU have sown good seed, and even though at the moment all you can see are the weeds his dad has sown, keep praying about the good stuff and hopefully it will grow taller in the end. You did your best, and that's all you can do. And the other 3 are honouring their grandparents, which is better than some get. Focus on the good, dont let C get you into a downward spiral.

hello beautfull

oh your poor mum . how could he be so rude and for him to shut the door in your dads face . i am thinking of you and big hugs to you and to your mum and dad

love belxx