do they still make the kids at school read Anna's story????? that was a huge thing when I was in high school as it had happened when I was at school (1995-1999)

that might be helpful for her

When I was that age, I knew  people involved in that sort of thing and it was offered to me on several occasions. I'm not proud to admit that on a couple of those occasions I took it. I look back at what I was like as a teenager and as much of a tear away i was, that is one thing I wish I could take back. Everyone talks about 'experimenting' as a teenager, but its more like trying to see how invincible you are and showing off in front of people, and its a dangerous game.

 The most important thing that she needs to realize is that it doesn't matter if she thinks this guy was a good guy or not (clearly not if he was giving her his stuff) she doesn't  know what's happened to the drugs before it actually got to her.People do all sorts of stuff to these things before selling them on.

There was a girl from the U.K who died from taking ecstacy about 15 years or so ago. Her name was Leah Betts and it happened not long after her 18th birthday and it was big news. Not to mention terrifying. It may be worth getting her to read about something like that to get her to realise what the dangers really are when it comes to drugs.

I'm scared to death of my son getting mixed up in stuff like this when he's older. I just hope he has more sense at that age than his mum!!

Good luck

Arg, the teen years, I still have to face those,ugh.

I however really don't think anything you say will make a difference unless she understands for herself. I think you have a bright and intelligent girl there, you also have access to the internet !

She has questions and needs answers, so let her get them. If I was in your position I would give my daughter a remit to produce a written project on the The Effects of Drugs in Teen Life if she ever wants to leave the house again,LOL.

I would give her a list of Questions to start with and ask her to expand on them from her own research and to produce this document for you and your wife to show that she fully understands the implications of her actions.

My starting point would be here:

http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/2008/04/25/7-questions-from-teens-about-peer-pressure-drug-experimentation.html

I hope you find the right path to reach her, for she has shown in her deviousness, that she has good brain, if she can focus on something more appropriate other than party animal, I bet she would be awesomely successful.LOL.

Best wishes, to you and yours. Winnie.xxxx

I am so not looking forward to this stage of parent hood. I know what my hubby got up to at 12 and onwards and that scares the hell out of me.

good luck with the kids and I hope that you can find away to help them understand what they have done and the dangers of it all.

Ahhh what a bummer so close yet so far. I have mixed feelings about ecstasy. I used it a fair bit while trying to figure out why everything happened to me and what I had done to deserve any of it. It allowed me to experience empathy in a way that I had never been familiar with and I actually didn't feel like a victim anymore after that experience, I felt sorry for the people who had harmed me.

I then went on to do psychology and did a substance abuse class lol ironic huh? And what Raven mentions about trials is very true, I've mentioned the positive effect it had on my life but I haven't mentioned the negative yet. I later found that mine was mixed with ice in attempts to get me addicted - the dealer had blabbed to the wrong person who happened to be my brother's best friend.

I've also experienced pills that were just stupid, they took over an hour to kick in and the high only lasted about 20 minutes tops. During this I experienced weakness in the knees where I couldn't stand, I had collapsed to the ground only to find that I couldn't stand back up until it had worn off. I then experienced severe anxiety and became rather snappy and angry for no reason.

You just really don't know what you're going to get when you get it - and since when can you trust your dealer? They're dealers afterall!

I would be telling her about the "cooks" and the ingredients the cooks use. They use to suedo epherudrine (sorry about the spelling) which was found in cold and flu tablets but since the companies changed the ingredients in these, the cooks use what evers handy, right thru to dangerous chemicials that you shouldn't inhale let alone consume.

When I was a teen, a dealer laced my weed with pepper. My lungs burned for 2 wks after and I and my friends were sick for days.

Also illicit drugs and alchol severely affect diabetes. I heard of a guy who went on a drinking binge and ended up in a diabetic coma as result. I can't remember the outcome but It wasn't good.

Unfortunately dealers give tries or freebies to get new and unsuspecting niave girls hooked on the drugs so they can make more money. I used to be one of the freeby girls. The girl that got the new guy hooked. I would flirt with them and tell them how cool they were and make all sorts of promises that I'd never keep. In return I got my drugs for free which I would share with the newbies. I'm very ashamed of it now and am only mentioning it now so you can tell your teen what they the dealers and the cooks really want.......her business. Thats it exactly what it is a business, nothing personal.

Anyway I thought I'd just share that and I hope it helps to stop a another person becoming hooked.

Raven

Emmie you are so right regarding the Ecstasy tablets, a 15yr old girl who was a local, a few years ago took 1/2 a tab and died within 20 minutes.

According to a few people I am acquainted with, there is a lot of Ecstasy tablets going around lately that have been made with glass powder or rat poison in them...I made my daughter aware of this and she simply said..."So what".

Because of her age and that youthful idea that nothing will ever happen, it will be a hard job to get through to her. I'm hoping that sooner rather than later, that we find the ideal way to make an impression. All in good time.....its just lucky that I'm a patient person!

the joy of being parents hey?

I hope you and your wifecan sort this out.not a good situation at all. Ectacy is a very dangerous drug with/without diabetes all it takes is a bad pill and it could be the end. Thats the thing with pills and powdered drugs you dont know whats in them . If its say pure ectacy her heart can stop in a flash. I think it was a good idea grounding her it will give her plently of thinknig time.Goodluck withthe chat over dinner it sounds like you need it and i thought i had problems with my 6 year old mine is nothing . hope you can work this one out x

welcome to the teenage world!

one only hopes that they lsiten to the parenting advice somewhere someday . all situations are different and unfortunately as you have found out you have no inkling what they are up to. people always say that parents only know half the things teens get up to.

be there for them no matter what. sometimes they think they can handle a sitaution perfectly, only to discover otherwise.

no easy solution im afraid

i hope things settle . Hopefully it was only experimental .

i wish you and your wife lots of patience courage and understanding

 annie