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Stop Sibling Fighting

TheMentorMom by TheMentorMom Young Parent(August 2006) (rank 2nd)

Does anyone no how to stop siblings from fighting 24/7? I have a 10 year old boy and an eight year old girl. They are constantly fighting and bickering. It is getting a little hard on the nerves anyone know how to make this stop.

An age old

problem with no one, clear cut solution.  When discussing sibling arguing, there are some things one must consider.  First, it is important that as parents we give our kids the opportunity to try to work things out themselves.  Sibling relationships offer children practice for learning how to negotiate with others in the real world.  When we as parents constantly step in to referee and provide a resolution, we take away valuable learning experiences.  Second, by stepping in each and every time, you are setting yourself up to be the mediator for the long haul.  Who wants that!!

Having said that, we as parents don't need the hassle of listening to constant bickering.  Sibling bickering is very rare in our home (that is not to say it is nonexistent!).  We have used the following technique and found it to be invaluable.  This is not to say that it is going to work for everyone or that all parents will want to do this.  That is a matter of personal parenting style.  If you think it might work, give it a whirl.  If not, put it in your parenting toolbox for safe keeping.  Here's how to do it:

  • When your kids start arguing or bickering, tell them "Either you guys work this out, or I will."
  • They will, of course, keep bickering at which point you step in and say "Looks like you weren't able to work this out on your own, so I will.  Go to your rooms and don't come out until you can play or interact nicely with each other."  Make sure you tell them to stomp their feet as hard as they can and slam their doors loudly on the way (they HATE doing what we ask of them...my kids go quiet as church mice to their rooms.  They aren't going to give me the satisfaction of slamming their door!).
  • If and when they come out, DO NOT DISCUSS THE MATTER FURTHER!  The consequence is having to go to their room.  If they get involved in reading or playing in their rooms, yipee!  You don't have to listen to any more arguing!  By allowing them to come out when they can play nicely or talk nicely to each other, you are giving them complete control as to how long they remain in their rooms.  I don't know about you, but I don't care if they are there three seconds or three minutes as long as the fighting stops. 
  • If the fighting resumes, back to their rooms and so on.
  • If they are fighting over a toy, the tv or the computer, solve the problem by taking away the desire object.  That way they learn that they both lose when they don't work it out on their own.
  • Keep your cool!  When you have to step in, keep your cool.  When we get angry, they start focusing their anger on us instead of thinking about the poor choice they have made.
  • Be consistent in using this technique. 
  • Mean what you say and say what you mean.  Your kids have to know that without question you will follow through with the consequence EACH AND EVERY TIME.  If there is any wiggle room, the likelihood of success on your part is minimal.

This technique uses natural consequences, i.e., can't work out sharing a toy or object and it is gone, or you continue to bicker and fight and you get separated from the rest of us so we don't have to listen to it.  It gets them thinking "if we don't figure out how to work this out, mom or dad will and that means I lose."  When bickering begins to flair up in our home and I tell them to work it out, I often hear hushed phrases such as "stop yelling or mom's gonna come take this toy away" or "stop it because she's gonna send us to our room."  Heaven to a parents ears! 

It took a lot of work and patience in the beginning, but this technique has been a life saver. to helping us achieve a relatively scream free home environment.  Let's hope it continues to work with them when they hit the teen years!

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jamieann
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | jamieann
Re: Stop Sibling Fighting

I have been dealing with major issues with my kids.  I have used this technique, and it works... AT HOME!  Problem is we are out more than home.  In the public my kids are NEIGHTMARES!  They just can't get along.  It is annoying to me and I KNOW it is annoying to others!  Any suggestions?



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Domestic-warrior
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2007 | Domestic-warrior
Re: Stop Sibling Fighting
I'm having huge problems with this at the moment, it is school holidays and i've had enough already - and it is only the beginning!  i think i'm going to give this ago, i hope it works because time-outs seem useless at the moment....i've had it!


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      TheMentorMom
December 2007 | TheMentorMom
Re: Stop Sibling Fighting
Good luck with it! 


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angieh
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2007 | angieh
Re: Stop Sibling Fighting
"If the fighting resumes, back to their rooms and so on."

The problem is that nowadays, people's rooms are becoming like their own entertainment centres - they'll have a computer in there, or maybe a tv, toys, dolls, and other games in there as well.

So for those who send their kids to their rooms but they have all that entertainment in their rooms, what would you recommend them to do?


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      Domestic-warrior
December 2007 | Domestic-warrior
Re: Stop Sibling Fighting

Hi Angieh,

I think the consequence is just going to the room because she says if they get involved in playing with something in their rooms thats all good, they just can't come out unti they can stop the fighting.

Julie



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      TheMentorMom
December 2007 | TheMentorMom
Re: Stop Sibling Fighting
Good question, Angie.  We don't allow televisions, computers, etc., in the kids rooms in our household, so that is not an issue for us.  I can only speak to how this works in our home.  For my kids, the consequence is really being separated from each other -- not so much being sent to their room.  They want to play together and dislike being separated despite the fact that they are bickering.  Keeping in mind that my kids are 6 and 9, I want them to learn that if they can't work it out, I will by eliminating the hassle to my ears by sending them to their rooms.  I suppose one could send them to other areas of the house.  For mine, however, the time in their room seems to allow them to "re-group" or cool down since in most instances one of them is upset.  Sometimes they are only in there a few minutes, sometimes they get involved with something and stay longer.  My goal is that when they come out 1) they play together nicely and 2) they are in better moods.  I hope that answered your question!


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Girraween
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Girraween
Thanks for the advice
This is well thought at and worded.  Yes as everyone points out different families benefit from different approaches and while my three girls are still fairly young and honestly do not bicker too much at the moment I appreciate having a wealth of advice on this site to read and try for now and the future.  I do think it is important for children to attempt to work it out themselves first.  If they can't do it at home how are they going to handle battles when you aren't around to referee them.   I am going to take all this into consideration, store it in my memory and try it when the time comes ... and I know it will come.


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      TheMentorMom
4.13 (Good) | January 2007 | TheMentorMom
Thanks for the advice
I hope you find it as helpful as I do and thanks for the positive feedback.  And you are so right about Minti being such a wonderful spot to gather information and THEN decide what tips and techniques will fit your family best.  Be sure to report back when you do finally have an opportunity to use this technique :)


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BlueSilver
3.95 (Good) | September 2006 | BlueSilver
sibling fighting and bickering

I think your advise shows how to end the bickering, but I don't think it solves the relationship issues between the children nor does it teach them HOW to resolve an issue.

Telling them to "sort it out, or you will" - have you ever sat down and shown them how to resolve a disagreement ?

I was shown how to drive once but I found one explanation wasn't enough, I needed practice and encouragement. BUT  I needed this practice and encouragement from a trained profesional. Imagine if i was just left to practise driving on the the roads all alone with the one lecture from my driving instructor to keep me going for the months ahead?

Perhaps one could ask what they are disagreeing on. Each person to take a turn and they only have 20 words so would they should please take the time to think about what they perceive to be the problem.

Ask them each - what THEY think would be a fair solution. make constructive empowering comments to help guide their reasoning.

Encouraging them to put their view forward but then asking them to tell you what they think the other sibling thinks and feels encourages them to think of the other person's feelings.

Of course you cant have these sessions every few minutes but bickering becomes a habit when children feel that in general they are in competition with each other. 

You say:

"This technique uses natural consequences, i.e., can't work out sharing a toy or object and it is gone, or you continue to bicker and fight and you get separated from the rest of us so we don't have to listen to it. "

So in real life are you saying that you never disagree with anyone? and if you do you just stop and leave the room quietly and drop the topic?

If a divorce matter goes to court, the judge does not say "right, you two cant agree just both go to your rooms and I'm confiscating all your things"  your matter is not important - have some consideration for me the judge who has to come and listen to it.

Is it not the judges job to listen to it and help resolve?  is it not the parent's job to listen and help resolve fairly and lovingly?

Children's issues may seem trivial to an adult but we don't have to treat them that way.

Being told to "sort it out"  often results in

1)the more assertive child getting his way at the expense of the child who wanted peace.  i.e one kid saying "yes, so you better give it to me or mum will take it we both loose out and it will be YOUR fault."

2.) the children learn that it is pointless taking their issues to anyone in authority because they don't care and they have more important things to worry about. So if a child is being bullied or borderline abuse : how can they be sure it wont be interpreted as one of the things they should just sort out themselves.  Telling them they can come to you with important issues only ,will not sink in half as well as the constant re-enforcement of "go and sort it out yourself" they will remember that "sort it out" was said far more than "come and talk to me about it" they wont remember which things go under which category

message : their mum's right to quiet is more important than whatever is upsetting them. 

If you try this method and they shout you down and wont co-operate with the discussing of their problem then I agree it is a good idea to send them to their rooms to think about a better way to resolve their issues (not as punishment!) and then after 10minutes they can present their cases.

Opportunities for bickering can also be minimised by sitting down with the children before something becomes an issue and together drawing up a roster for the playstation, tv etc that they all believe is fair. Also, ask them to agree to ask permission from each other to use each others things and if someone violates that they should be able to say to the other sibling that is not what we agreed please don't etc. If the other sibling ignores them and continues they should be able to come to you for help.

:)



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      goldilox
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | goldilox
The way this issue of sibling rivalry is handled can change who your child becomes as an adult!

Excellent points BlueSilver!! I believe that one of the skills many people lack as adults is how to solve disagreements with others. If children are taught HOW to solve their disagreements, with help from their parents, they will develop skills that will serve them well as adults.

Having been one of three children, all very close in age (I was the eldest by just one year) I remember very clearly, the frustration and feelings of unfairness and outrage at being punished because of disagreements between us - and I know my brother and sister felt the same.

Please bear in mind, one child cannot force another to behave. Please don't hold one child responsible for another's behaviour - regardless of their ages.

I agree whole-heartedly with what BlueSilver says about the more assertive child getting his way at the expense of the child who wants peace (also add to this, the child who is more sensitive to upsetting his parents) this is:

1. outrageously unfair and can create many future problems for both children

2. giving the message to the assertive one that you can get your own way by bullying and/or manipulation

3. developing feelings in the other child of injustice, lowering self-esteem, inferiority, and creating the foundation of a doormat adult ... or an adult who is resentful and passively-agressive ... or... any number of other possible issues.

Our aim, as parents, is to give our children tools and skills that will prepare them for successful intergration into society as adults - enabling them to be happy, secure and confident, with good people skills. Siblings have a great opportunity to learn positive problem solving and communication, but it is not a built in feature they arrive with - and they will not learn it by trial and error, and they certainly will not learn it by being sent to their rooms. They will learn it from their parents - in two main ways:

1. Observing how their parents resolve disagreements

2. Being given the tools and skills by their parents at the time of the disagreement.

We need to be very careful of telling our children to do things, and expecting them to do them, without making sure they have a) the tools with which to accomplish these things; b) the understanding of those tools and exactly what is expected of them, and c) control over the situation.

It's incredibly damaging to punish a child for something he has no control over (including someone else's behaviour).

Everyone has a need (and a right!) to be heard - to have their say and to put their point forward. And children deserve to be heard just as much as anyone else. Imagine your frustration if you were in the middle of a disagreement with someone - a disagreement you felt very strongly about - and you felt you were in the right and that the other person had wronged you and was treating you unfairly, and in the middle of that argument, someone walked in, and instead of mediating and allowing you each to have your say and put forward your point, this person told you to separate from the one who you feel had hurt you, until you could "get along nicely".

It's not really a practical way to resolve disagreements, and it certainly will not be useful to them as adults in society.

I think it's important that we, as parents, take more time to look through our children's eyes. When siblings are bickering, the parent hears "noise" and "squabling" - and I understand that. But if the parent were to change their perspective for a moment, look at that particular situation through each child's eyes, they might have more compassion for them. They might understand them more. And they might even find their own stress level drops as they put the child's feeling at that time before their own.... and they might then feel able to walk their children through a diplomatic and effective resolution, giving them invaluable skills and tools to use for the rest of their lives.

The way this issue of sibling rivalry is handled can change who your child becomes as an adult!



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           goldilox
3.69 (Good) | September 2006 | goldilox
Another Positive Method of Dealing with Sibling Fighting...

I’d like to add another suggestion to BlueSilver’s: 

One of the tools you can give your children is a “dispute hat” (or stone or ball or whatever) and when they disagree, they can take it in turns to hold the “dispute hat” – at this time, only the person holding the dispute hat may talk, and the other has to listen. But the dispute hat only lasts for a certain period of time (two minutes for example – get them a timer  )

There are three rounds with the dispute hat:

Round One: Each person has two minutes to explain his side without being interrupted. The other one has to listen carefully – he’s going to need the information in round two.

When the time is up, the other person gets to do the same.

Round Two: After they’ve each had their two minute’s explanation, they again take it in turns to hold the dispute hat, but this time, two minutes speaking as if they are the other person, saying what they understand that person’s point of view is, and what they think that person means.

Round Three: Last round with the “dispute hat” – this time putting forward what they think would be a fair and reasonable solution.

The most important thing about this method is, you will need to walk them through it the first few times. Help them as many times as needed. It’s not easy – even for adults – to resolve disagreements without someone feeling cheated in some way, so it’s important not to expect too much too fast.



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      TheMentorMom
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | TheMentorMom
sibling fighting and bickering

Obviously, you have strong feelings on how to handle sibling bickering and disagree with this method.  As I said in the article, this technique is not for everyone, but rather is one that I have found to be effective in my household.  That is the wonderful thing about minti, ie, that parents can come together and share their advice on things that have worked for them allowing the readers to pick and choose which things they would like to implement in their homes as well. 

I certainly respect your opinion, but must add that your comments felt like a personal attack on my choice as a parent to use this particular technique leaving me feeling judged.  Having said that, I support your ability to express your thoughts and encourage you to post an article with you suggestions/advice on addressing sibling bickering.



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      TheMentorMom
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | TheMentorMom
sibling fighting and bickering

Obviously, you have strong feelings on how to handle sibling bickering and disagree with this method.  As I said in the article, this technique is not for everyone, but rather is one that I have found to be effective in my household.  That is the wonderful thing about minti, ie, that parents can come together and share their advice on things that have worked for them allowing the readers to pick and choose which things they would like to implement in their homes as well. 

I certainly respect your opinion, but must add that your comments felt like a personal attack on my choice as a parent to use this particular technique leaving me feeling judged.  Having said that, I support your ability to express your thoughts and encourage you to post an article with your suggestions/advice on addressing sibling bickering.



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           goldilox
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | goldilox
sibling fighting and bickering

Hi MentorMom.

I'm so sorry if I came across too harsh - it certainly was not a personal attack at all. It's just my opinion, and I do feel quite passionate about it as my brother, sister and I are very close in age (I am one year older than the twins), and we fought a lot - especially my sister and I.

And I still smart from the memories of being scolded together for fighting, even though I felt I'd been wronged. (and I know my sister felt the same, as we've spoken about it since). I still remember the feeling of injustice when being told "will you two just stop it or you'll both ......." and feeling "but you don't understand..." We were never told how to "just stop it" - we each felt frustrated/ hurt/ wronged... etc. at different times, but were never given the "how" to not fight.

Anyway - that's why I may have come across so strong - the feelings of injustice still run deep.

All the best

Goldilox



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                TheMentorMom
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | TheMentorMom
sibling fighting and bickering
I appreciate the apology goldilox.  And I agree with you about teaching negotiation skills and modeling.  The technique I shared is just one of many parenting tools that can be used to address bickering (particularly for older children who have already learned and seen negotiation in action).  And I'm not sure if I mentioned it in the article, but scolding is not a part of this process.  There are ways to use this technique leaving both parties feeling satisfied with their solution, but it takes love and support on the part of the parents.  There may as well be times when this technique is not the appropriate "parenting tool."  As parents, we have to pick and choose which technique to use and under what circumstance :)


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      naughtyaudie
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | naughtyaudie
sibling fighting and bickering
I must address the sibling rivalry  issue here.... I have a sister with 10 wonderful children who handled the sibling rivalry like The Mentor Mom, you have to have more than 1 child to KNOW what sibling rivalry is like in your immediate household.  This does NOT apply to babysitting, being a nanny,  it has to involve more than one biological child, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.     I know with all of the blended families, it is so difficult for the stepchildren, on both sides, to please the non-biological parent.  Its a no-win situation for these kids.  I recently read a book dealing  young childrens' problems with bed wetting, soiling, and most agreed that if it was not a medical problem, most likely it was due to family stress problems in the home.  Something to think about.  


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JadieLady
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2006 | JadieLady
gold mine!

This is a great approach.

WE liked to chase eachother around the house with dangerous objects if we could get away with it long enough to scare the pants off the other person and get our own way. usualy got the big belt around the bum afterwards. until we buried the belt :)



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elizabeth
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2006 | elizabeth
Oh I am going to Implement this immediately

There is a big age difference between my two but I think this will work. I use a similar method some of the time but now I know why it is not working. Consistancy happens to be my goal for the week.

Can it work between cousins?



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      TheMentorMom
August 2006 | TheMentorMom
Oh I am going to Implement this immediately
Don't see why it wouldn't work between cousins.  Keep me posted on how it works for your kids!


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hrs2004
August 2006 | hrs2004
Sibling rivalry
I like your approach with this. We are already getting in to the idea of "mine and mine" when it comes to toys and attention between the two little ones and they are barely two and not yet one!


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      wildrose
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2006 | wildrose
Sibling rivalry
I think for young age (under 3) you just have to seperate them, and of course after you told them whether it's good or not and the sharing things. I have 4.5 and almost 1.5, we did most likely like mentormom's approach. But we have other way too, like if we don't see who start the fight we will warn both kids and if they still doing it we punish them buy taking the toys or send both to room/sit down on chill out chair. We also try to teach the older one, since he's older and already go to school, we told him that we would be proud if he could look after and be nice to the younger one. Not that he'd understand straight away, but we believe by planning the wisdom word hopefully he'd grow up wiser.


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           TheMentorMom
August 2006 | TheMentorMom
Sibling rivalry
I TOTALLY agree with you Wildrose about giving both kids a warning when you don't know who started it!  We do the same thing.  My experience has been that the one who comes to tattle is often the one who started it and isn't pleased that they got a punch or pinch from the sibling who fought back.  Great point and thanks for adding it!


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poision
August 2006 | poision
Future

as of yet bubba has no siblings but will keep for future reference as hope to give him a brother or 2 one day!!!



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