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Advise Writers of Minti

larustyka by larustyka Standing(January 2009) (rank 500+)

I write this because of an experience I had on minti. In a devastated state yesterday, I asked for some advise which I should never had asked a group of strangers who didn't know me.... Simply asking someone this question was both unfair to them and to myself. I ended

up completely destroyed and having to seek medical advice only to find out that what I had done actually happened to a lot of people.... including my doctor... And that I was the least likely person in the world to be considered a monster for doing such a thing as I was a wonderful mother with beautiful, happy and loving children... I spoke to my daycare teachers and some mothers from my sons school and many of them had also experienced similar things to me...

I am a very strong person who has bounced back from quite a few terrible things in her life time, but the idea that I may have been a monster almost destroyed me.... Thank you to the 2 wonderful people who sent me very kind messages to my personal mail box after I pulled my question off the site, I read these after my melt down, your warm words started me crying all over again and helped me decide to write this....

Advise givers of minti. Please be aware of the comments you give people who are desparately seeking advise on a personal level... You do not personally know these people, who they are, where they came from, what they have been through, or what type of parent they are... Your advise is desparately wanted and needed at a time where the person head is in a state of lack of clarity and they will absorb your words like a spunge....  As I did

I read a lot of stories on Q/A minti last night... There are so many people hoping for answers on minti who I believe are looking in the wrong place. Hoping for an answer that will help them decide what needs to be done. Not just on the little problems, but some pretty huge ones too...There are so many differend kinds of people out there that you honestly need to be careful with your words when giving advise... Some of the advise given if taken on board could ruin people and peoples relationships for all the wrong reasons...

For the people thinking these people should not ask these questions if they do not want the answers. I would like you to consider this, almost every single person out there has had a time in there life where they feel their life is out of control. In these times of trouble there is not enough clarity or contentment in there own lives to right the problem themselves.. They are hoping you will with your comments....

People have the ability to make someones day, make someone hurt, or to turn someones life upside down... Please if someone is asking you a hard question read the question properly, look at the persons background in their home page and guage the type of person they are... If you are still unsure ask some more questions... Do not destroy them live on minti, it may make you feel powerful but think of the consequences of your words...... If you have something to say that you feel may be hurtful to someone send it to their personal mail box, do not make it worse for them by letting it be live.... Put youself in there shoes...

Love and kindess has the potential to fix the world, try and always put a possitive spin on your advise even if it is only a glimmer. A wrong move on your behalf could potentially destroy a good person...

Thanks for listening,

I know this is not parenting advise but it is still for the parent

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beekay1
February 2009 | beekay1
Re: Advise Writers of Minti

Hi, i didn't read your original question so am not sure what it was about.  But i feel saddened that you got so upset about them.  I think it is really important to have self confidence in the job you are doing as a mother - and the way you go about it.  If people have different views then that is their perogative to be judgemental to others and be so narrowminded.  Everyone does things differently and there are no rules to parenting and people do not have a right to make others feel that they are doing wrong.  Good on you for speaking up about the hurt you experienced and i hope you now have more confidence in yourself.



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sonalichouhan
February 2009 | sonalichouhan
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Hi Minti is  a place where one can exchange ideas. The main purpose is that here we come to know the experiences of others and  these can be helpful  to us, if we are in the same boat or somewhat related to it. But mind you the weightage of the advice has to be decided by us.  Because as you said the other person can be from any place and in any situation.



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liswal
February 2009 | liswal
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Hi and I want to give you a big hug!

I did not read the original article so I have no idea what it was about. I think sometimes people react to an article without really understanding it properly. I think as Mintiers we do need to concertrate on speading the love and positiveness around.

I must say though that I have not seen alot of damning comments to questions on Minti, It must have been a rare thing.

I hope you are OK and please note that if you need a friend to chat with about anything,,,,I am a good listener!

Lots of Love,,,,Lisa :) 



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kathryn-solaris
February 2009 | kathryn-solaris
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you know, pancakes will make you feel better.... i like them....

not too sure what the inital deal was for you here. sounds like a tough spot to be in what ever it was (virtual shuriken in the butt to whomever made you feel like that... becca supper growlies!!). i have always (aside from a few unfortunate times) found that putting a giggle in the recievers gob is a winner, or at least try to. i am sure they either shake their heads as the general dementedness/someone else is lamer than them thing, or have a laugh at my antics. even at the most munted up times, a laugh is always a spirit lifter. hoppy hoppy. random ninja bunni.

ps: put some purple food dye in the pancake mix and make a smily face with syrup. common.... it'll make you all happyness ::)



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      larustyka
February 2009 | larustyka
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You seem like a clasic lady, thanks for your response I enjoyed reading it. My first thought was that you were like Abby from NCIS, LOL....

I don't think it was peoples fault who wrote the comments and I don't want them to feel bad, I just think they wrote without to much thought of the effect, or that they might be wrong and the effect on the person if they were.... Which is understandable if they had never had the same experience.. Super hard advise to give someone if you are unsure of wo they are...

I wrote a blog further down the page as to what happened, I thought I needed to toughen up and tell the truth, you see I slapped my son across the face, I was destroyed. It was the second time it had happened and both times were after he had hurt one of his sisters after I had told him not to do that 100 times over.. I was wondering if it had ever happened to anyone else... I was just pretty unluck that my first few responses were from people that it had never happened to before....

Love Rusty xx

 



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           Rhadika
February 2009 | Rhadika
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Ha ha ha, I totally get that whole abbey from NCIS thing, cept becca doesn't drnk cafpow. this is all natural becca.

Becca is truely classic but not sure bout the lady part. lol.

As for your advice article, I am sure I have from time to time jumped to a conclusion with out knowing the full story and I'm sure many other members here on minti have done the same. But when your conclusion is wrong and respond with that initial assumption people get hurt, not always intentionally but they do. I find particularly words in the written form to be partiularly more hurtful than the ones spoken - long story. So in brief, I agree with what you have said about getting more information or simply not commenting if you have nothing helpful or supportive or encouraging to say.

I hope you are ok now and that this experience doesn't make you want to spend less time on minti.

Dika. xx.

 



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                kathryn-solaris
February 2009 | kathryn-solaris
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you know my ninja bunnies will hunt down and destroy you by way of fluffy happy juice covered kunai!! lady pfft! yas right i aint but dont tell everyone!! ::)'s

hoppy hoppy!



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Rukia
February 2009 | Rukia
Re: Advise Writers of Minti

hiya and I do totally agree with this. great advice. I personally havent been on alot recently but read downward first to see if there was anything in relation to what the Q was in the first place.

I will say that you are not a bad mum for doing what you did. I have been in the similar place where my daughter threw her brother off his bynk bed, pushed him off the back of a couch and we had to rush him to hospital with concusion and blood coming out og his head, but also with my son slicing my daughters ear thinking he would help me and cut her hair. I have biten my kids to stop them biting (they dont bite after that)

Even though it may be a very bad thing that happens and we react without thought it doesnt mean we are a bad person.

I am sorry that you had to have this happen and sadly it isnt the first and wont be the last time it is done on here. we all forget that we live world wide and what is ok here in Australia is different in England  or America and even Canada and all the other places that our lovely mintiers are from.

All we can hope is that your son and daughter both learnt something out of it all and that was that mum is right when she is worried about dangerous things.



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Tadpole
January 2009 | Tadpole
Re: Advise Writers of Minti

I have said many time to my friends "You can kind of see how some parents loose it with their children". I feel so frustrated sometimes that the little darling won't listen to me especially when they are hurting each other. I admit I have smacked my children on the backside but I think the thing that happens is, You really hurt yourself more than what you hurt them. As for the advice well written.



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      larustyka
February 2009 | larustyka
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Thanks tadpole....  I agree, the day after the awful event when I was not coping at all and in tears, my son came up to me and asked me what he could do for me to make me happy again, he put his hands under my chin and lifted my face up and everything... He even asked me what was wrong and couldn't believe I was still so upet about it... Broke my heart all over again......



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judy63
January 2009 | judy63
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I understand completely after a 16 year break my 2nd husband and l decided for a child after having my tubes rejoined I fell prgnant 3 months after how lucky what a gift

Since I allready had been a mother l thought not a problem it was my husbands first child

well didnt l get a shock even though l loved my little girl l was sooooooooo  jealous of her and the love and attention my husband  displayed to her made it worse

many a time l did horriable things to my disgust she is now 8 she is a strong dilligent and vibrant l LOVE her dearly but she still annoys me   no more children for me  hopefully l will make a BETTER GRANDMOTHER one day



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      larustyka
January 2009 | larustyka
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Wow how awful for you, I can't imagine the internal turmoil that would have created.... Kind of blows my mind at the pressure you must have been under trying to see your way through it.... Most kids have a way of still shining no matter what they have been through, and they always amaze me with their strength and knowledge. I am a child from a difficult upbringing and I turned out stronger from the experience.

I am sure you will be a wonderful granparent, think of what you learnt and can pass on from your own experience...



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      leclaire91402
January 2009 | leclaire91402
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We are led to believe that we should feel a certain way about our children.  It is supposed to be nothing but love and joy.  When that child arrives things may not go as planned.  It is wonderful that we now have a site like Minti and honest people to share our stories with.  We all have bad days.  We lose our temper sometimes.  Other times it may be a lack of ambition that causes us to let the kids eat junk food for lunch. It is nice to know at times like that we are not alone. 



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MrsSanders
January 2009 | MrsSanders
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Hi there, I agree and it would be nice in a perfect world for people to be kind and try to think of others and to really think the situation through from all angles, but sadly its not going to happen, because humans are instinctive and depending on each individuals insecureties and experiences at that moment the response will probably  reflect that.

It is personal, it can be devistating and in some cases challenging. In the end it really does come down to being all human and all learning from our mistakes and sometimes it takes a repetition of incidences before we see the light and some times we never do see it sadly.

We are all vulnerable to something and chances are that being on a public site we will be exposed to those vulnarabilities if we share them, show them and respond to them. We forget that as people we do not share the same values, securities and insecurities.

You rose to the challenge did not accept the negative and found a positive and excellent way to help open peoples eyes, will people take it on board, uhm yes if we are secure enough to look at ourselves.

Thankyou for sharing and caring.

Luv Winnie.xxxx



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bruciegee
January 2009 | bruciegee
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Thanks for your honesty and willingness to be vulnerable in sharing, Rusty. And especially for boucning back with a positive twist on the experience -- well done!

... and, by the way, if we did an honest poll on which parents, Minti or other, had ever acted or spoken inappropriately to their children, and had each of us share the worst thing we ever said or did to one of our children, I don't think too many of us would come off looking too good! the fact that you are obviously shaken and horrified by your own response is, in itself, a sign of being a GOOD parent, not a bad one (not a perfect one, either, but I have yet to meet one of these!!)

Thanks for adding the original incident back in (below), which is a brave thing to do.. but helps provide perspective for others to understand this advice -- which, by the way, I think is good advice on Minti and in all areas of life!



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      larustyka
January 2009 | larustyka
Re: Advise Writers of Minti

thanks bruciegee, means alot coming from you.. you really have a way with words, help people understand things kindly and are definitely one of the good guys... lucky to have you as a friend



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larustyka
January 2009 | larustyka
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This is hard, and not something I am comfortable writing about again but here goes..... I slapped my son accross the face for the second time in his life time, and I was destroyed. Both times it has happened it has been after telling my son over and over and over and over that if he keeps doing that he is going to really hurt one of his sisters...

My baby daughter was playing peak a boo at the floor length curtain and for the 101th time I told my son not to put the curtain over head or she will fall back and hit her head, I turned around and kept cooking my dinner only to look back as he did it and again and see her fall back and hit her head on the plastic join on the floor.... When our kids hurt themselves we have what we call a rictor scale which as a description  is how long they hold their breath before sound comes out... It was a 8 on the rictor scale...

I reaction slapped him without thinking... My knees went weak at what I had done, and I can honesly tell you was destroyed to have done such a thing, I couldn't get over it. I called my partner and told him what happened, He told me not to beat myself up and that it happens sometimes... I called my Mum and she said the same thing and told me of a time she did the same thing to me...

I didn't sleep that night, I kept seeing the picture over and over in my head, same the next day.... I finally decided that if my partner and my mother were right and I posted my question on minti there would be other people out there who would help me understand what happened and if I was a bad mother..... a person in their right mind woulld have seen the consequences of such a question on minti....

Unlucky for me the first responces to come through were the ones from people who had not experienced it before, I didn't think I could handle anymore and thought I must have been a monster who shouldn't be allowed children who was on a slippery slope, so I took the question down.... I should have left the question up, because the messages there after were from people who had an idea of what I was going through. .

I will never get over doing that to my son, it is an awful thing to do to your child and I still believe should never happen... But as my doctor said, we are only human, we make mistakes the key is we have to learn from them....

 



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      lilysmom
January 2009 | lilysmom
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*hugs*

you're not the first or the last person to react without thinking and smack their kid like that. When lily was going thru a biting stage i did the same thing, totally in appropriate I know, but i was on the phone and she came up and bit me on the inner thigh. without thinking i smacked her face. i felt like crap, and sometimes i think of what i did and feel like crap all over again and need to give her cuddles. (a bonus is that she never bit me again, tho i would never suggest smacking as away to stop a biter!)

good for you for being able to write this article, and to re write what all started it. I for one was curious as to what started it.

You're not a bad parent!



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           larustyka
January 2009 | larustyka
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thank you for your message and for being as open as I was, it really meant a lot



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      bruciegee
January 2009 | bruciegee
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I think the best thing you can do (which you probably have done already!) is to sit your son down and say something like: "sorry, mummy was wrong to react that way....slapping you was the wrong thing to do! please forgive me"... you could also then still go on to explain (again) WHY you were so upset, and how we have a responsibility to keep one another safe!



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      llmunchkin
January 2009 | llmunchkin
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Aha... I am surprised that this received a negative reaction; this is one of those situations where you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.  I can't say that I wouldn't react the same way, as I have never been in that situation.

I do know that the law in NSW states that you can't hit a child above the shoulders and a smack should not be hard enough to leave a mark. 

Anyway, anyone who has read the articles you have posted, or benefited from any of your helpful comments would realise that this was out of the norm... Why else would it have upset you enough to ask for help in this regard?

Writing this article, (especially now that you have added a full explanation), is an excellent way to bounce back and show your true colours.  I hope that some of the comments ended up helping you; as for the ones that hurt you, they may not have been intended that way and if you were a bad person, they wouldn't have bothered you.



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      MrsSanders
January 2009 | MrsSanders
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Thankyou so much for adding the missing info, I was having trouble trying to fathom what could cause you so much angst, because the little I know of you tells me you are a loving and caring Mummy.

I did not see the question but my answer would have been "So you are Human" , No I have never been in your situation,but only because I have as yet not been tested to that extent but who knows at any moment what will happen. I got three good ones from my Mother over the years and I don't resent any of the slaps as she was open and honest about why it came about, what my actions did to help force the issue and I did force, oops, and we could both learn from it and the big huggy loving sorry.My sister even admits to deliberately pushing Mum to the absolute edge, and she was a very patient woman, once for reassurance that the bounderies were secure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Try to forgive yourself, your son will, because you can be honest with him.

Luv Winnie.xxxx

 


 



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DrKristi1
January 2009 | DrKristi1
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Hello, Rusty! I absolutely agree with you, that folks should be aware of potentially making another person's situation worse.  When someone is feeling low/having a tough time, and turns to MINTIS for a boost, it only takes one negative/degrading comment to make that person feel even worse. You have a beautiful family, and an obviously empathic heart. I am very new to this community, and I wrote advice in response to a question (versus just an answer), not really knowing the rules. While I take responsibility for my ignorance, it was hurtful to see the "one star" rating, and negativity of people jumping on my back, for an honest mistake.  I don't contribute to this site for any moolah; I try to contribute because I just might have something to offer.  So, anyway, thanks for the gentle reminder. All my best to you and your family.



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      larustyka
January 2009 | larustyka
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I read about this, I am sorry it happened. Very easy mistake... I haven't been here long either and there are a few rules I am still learning about... I think some people forget that alot of people on this site are new and that it is quite easy to frighten them away with curtness and lack of tact and making them feel a little stupid.



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nell18-3
January 2009 | nell18-3
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Great article and anything that promotes the feel good factor on Minti has 5 stars from me, however, I was a little lost because like probably a lot of others I did not see the question you refer to or the answers so the article did kind of lose its punch because of that

Good on you for writing it, I do feel though that in a community like this, if you do ask a question you are going to be guaranteed a variety of answers, some you may like and some you don't so you need to be prepared for anything when you post the question. I do believe though it is always possible to give your opinion in a non threatening, non judgemental way, thus making the person who posted the question understand what you are saying but at the same time not end up feelig worse than they do already. The community of Minti is worldwide so you will never get everyone agreeing with you, but wouldn't it be great if everyone coudl give their opinion without judging you

xxx



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      larustyka
January 2009 | larustyka
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thanks for your response, it made me brave enough to tell the rest of the story to help people understand where my advise was coming from... I knew it lacked puch but was hoping I could get away without putting myself out there to be judged all over again..... 

I did put it out there again so hopfully people may think twice before willy nilly adding advise without thinking what their words could do to someone already suffering.



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           nell18-3
January 2009 | nell18-3
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I don't think anyone should judge you on a singluar slap,  if they have never been driven to breaking point by a child already then they can sit and wait for their turn because it will happen

For me, I had a daughter who had cried every meal time for days, I had milk, she wouldn't take it from me, if I expressed and put it in a bottle she would drink it. So I felt totally rejected, been awake for days and I was driven by this urge stronger than I had ever known to shake her, I DIDN"T !!!!! But only because I found the will to lie her down leaving her to cry whilst I got myself sorted out and calmer

Don't be hard on yourself, it happened, and you will find yourself all that much more determined to never let it happen again

xxx



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llmunchkin
January 2009 | llmunchkin
Re: Advise Writers of Minti

Hi Rusty, I don't know what the question was about, which makes this posting somewhat cryptic and hard to follow... I gess you are just saying to put yourself in someone elses shows and show empathy when responding to questions... The thing is, when you ask for advice, or post advice, you really need to be prepared for the fact that you may not always like what you hear.  I like to think of that as an opportunity to grow as a person and in turn find empathy for where the other person is coming from.  Love and kindness are all very well, however I don't think people should feel they need to suppress their true thoughts, especially on topics that they may have a lot of experience or passion about.



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      larustyka
January 2009 | larustyka
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I agree with you almost in full... However you can always choose your words carefully, tactfully and with someones best interests at heart... It is not a compertition, or a contest, or a chance for you to shine,  it is real life people sometimes in a world of pain. Sometimes it is not your job to bring them down so they get to grow for the experience....

We can not see how our words effect people on minti, we are writing to a computer screen that shows no emotion, we read the words on the screen in the text we believe it is written, sometimes not in the way it was meant... Then we judge,

This advise isn't just written because of what happened to me, I have honestly read some things that make me really feel for the people that have reached out.....

 



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           larustyka
January 2009 | larustyka
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I knew you would comment on my story when I finised writing, published and went to the activity page and saw your name..... LOL



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                llmunchkin
January 2009 | llmunchkin
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LOL I wanted to get the ball rolling, it had all these visits, no votes and no comments... As if the topic was too hot to handle or something silly ; )



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