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Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

Hope4u by Hope4u Crawling(February 2009) (rank 500+)

 I put a smiley here just to say at the beginning of this paragraph, we have to keep hoping and standing up for our children and sometimes its costs us almost everything we have to give, but it is worth it in the end!

I am in the

middle of divorce proceedings with a husband in the legal profession.  I gave all I had to create a beautiful home for our children and lived in a dream country house, newly built and had all we needed to build our family life.  I was a aware though of certain things that were gnawing away inside and that were not improving in our family situation.  Apart from experiencing sudden waves of anger in my husband there was the issue of a gut feel that my children were not ok. My daughter started wetting her bed and my son was just out of sorts.  I came to the point where I made a decision for my children's sake, I MUST take action and act in their safety, and for those very reasons I decided to leave my dream home, leaving everything I had except the basics, and all I could take for the children. 

The months that followed were not easy but I took bite sizes.   My children went into new schools and the main goal was to get their routine as settled as possible in our circumstances.  Soon visitation times were set up for the children to see their father and this seemed to go ok, until my daughter one day told me that something was happening that made her be frightened and she did not like it. THIS was the beginning of a battle to protect my children that I am fighting to this day, almost 3 years have passed. Proving sexual abuse is very difficult and a very complicated process, but through it as parents, we must push though to protect our children even if those around you say their isn't much hope. Be it one day at a time, never give up.

It is especially difficult when the abuse has occurred within your immediate family. Both of my children talked about haveing  been sexually abused during 2006 and their were certain protective measures put in place until through assessments and reports, it was 'said' that their was probably no sexual abuse. 

My heart sank, I couldn't believe they were not believing what we had witnessed, but money can pay for a lot of things and try and prove truth to be false through so many means.  I had to press on, I have to listen to what my children had told me.  Having a husband in the legal profession made any process even more complicated and I had to have perseverance levels that would not easily fade.

The time came and I was faced with new recommendations made and presented, where my son would go on visits with his dad Unsupervised.  This was court ordered and I knew I faced a tough decision, I let my son go AGAIN.   Weeks went by, a month in to visits and something was wrong.  This year, hardly begun and my son spoke and said he had been hurt by his daddy, his bum was sore.  I did not have words, I just felt I had completed a full circle from getting protection with supervision and somehow this had come back to 'unsupervised' because we were not being believed!

Well, this had been reported and we are still perservering, as I sit typing my son is out with his dad (with supervision) put in place again.  Don't wait until your child is a teenager, act for them while they are young, because EVERYTHING you do for them now is building who they are going to be when they are older, and how they approach life's hopes and dreams and also the problems they face within their own families.

Lastly, when fighting for your children's protection takes a long time, years maybe, don't lose heart.  It is nearly 3 years since I left my home and lost nearly everyting I owned. We will see the result later, there is HOPE, always!    Hope4u

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Hope4u
June 9th | Hope4u
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

Thank you for your response, it means SO much right now, I am really in the fire with my situation to protect my children but daily persevere.  Will make contact again,  the next 6 months are crucial.

Thanks again for your response

regards

hope4u



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lainy
June 9th | lainy
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

my heart also goes out to you  my son was being abused by a friends son and unfortunately I didn't have the instinct you had until it was to late I only wish I had, you are a strong woman for doing what you have done to protect them and don't let anyone tell you any different , i lost my friendship due to what happened but I don't care my son is more important to me than that so stay strong and protect those beautiful children of yours until they can protect themselves, with time and the right help no matter the outcome they will be survivors not victims.



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HarrisonsMommy
March 2009 | HarrisonsMommy
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

Well done.  Stand up for your children.  No one else is going to do it for you.  You are a wonderful mother and you need to know it.  Your kids will never forget what you have done to protect them, and will never forget what their father has done to them.



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emmie
March 2009 | emmie
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How traumatic for you all fantastic advice

Thanks for sharing

hugs xx



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Philosopher13
March 2009 | Philosopher13
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

 My heart goes out to you. Keep fighting. And thank you for not giving up.



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iamschild
March 2009 | iamschild
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Keep fighting, sister! Don't give up, your doing good. Keep fighting the good fight. Awesome job girl! With more people like you, I'd be out of a job!



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Marglr
March 2009 | Marglr
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

Battle on dear Mother, thank god you know your gut feelings and took those steps.  My heart goes out to anyone that has gone through this.  I believe abuse at the hands of a family member is the worst breech of trust.  I hope you and your children can recover and he faces what he is.  Protection is certainly needed and we all are aware that the courts do not always provide this.  They should, and this should never happen.... I so wish that was true. I wish you the very best.



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beshortt
March 2009 | beshortt
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

I was abused by my stepfather and know what you are facing.  But my mom did not believe me, he was very involved in the Church and he wouldn't do such things

It has been 30 years now and the abuse comes back to me in many ways making it hard to heal so I heal a little at a time.

Fighting through this was very difficult as it lasted 4 years and when I told anyone at first they did not believe me, at least no one that knew him.

Council you kids, learn how, keep going in your fight and be strong, you all need this.

Good for you for listening.

Brenda



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ClayCook
February 2009 | ClayCook
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

Dear Hope4u,

I am not sure what to say, but I thought about yur situation today and hope all is ok.

I am sure all the people below who commented would love to hear an update on how things are progressing, especially if you have worked out a way to protect your children.

Kindest
Clay



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      Hope4u
February 2009 | Hope4u
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

 Thanks Clay for your recent message.  I have been so run off my feet I just have not had time to update info but am taking time out now because it is important. My situation is really very hectic at the moment, there are so many factors involved and the main court case is on 11th March where certain factors will be sorted out, but not all.  There is a docket opened for the case against my son of sexual abuse and this has affected the case generally and the finalization of certain aspect of my divorce case.

The visitations are going on, my son 8 hours visitation with supervision which of course comes with payments involved per hour.  My daughter's time has been extended from 2 hours to 5 hours under supervision.  The difficulty I find is that there are presents and sweets and such a 'lovely fun time' had that the children are so easily bought and think everything is great and daddy is always laughing and fun to be with, so different to what he was before and children cannot understand ,they see the hear and now.  Then in the background I am fighting for their rights and their safetybecause I know what is going on behind the scenes. I have protected them against all those things.

In the meantime our monthly Maintenance Money we were receiving was just cut by my husband to less that half which just covers rent for our cottage and 2 stop orders for the school fees for the children and nothing was provided for food for my children or any other needs they might have.  This was a Court Order, but it seems he just takes the law into his own hands and their isn't much we can do right now, I have to be in court rooms though on the 5th March to discuss monthly finances, so hopefully those involved will fight for my children and myself. If he says he has no funds and moves money somewhere else we cannot take any action.   I am doing everything I can to bring in finances in the really busy schedule of transporting children to therapy and visitations in the week as well. I even work in the car sitting for 2 hours, while my children are in therapy  It will all be worth it in the end, I have to believe it!! 

The Medical Aid option was also cut option changed to basic Hosp care and so no doctor bills or medication will be paid by medical Aid, but I was not informed at all until faced with several accounts to pay and only then being informed by the Pharmacies that nothing was covered.  My children needed to go for their check-up at the Dentist and I had taken them. At the time I had no knowledge of the changes and of course the bill was directed to me by my husband because he says he did not contract with the dentist for treatment for the children I did, so I am responsible for the account unless I can prove it was necessary treatment. Needless to say they  both needed a filling done.

 It makes such a difference if one knows what is coming so that there can be a plan of action. 

I am still counting on my children spontaneously speaking about what they have experienced, they do remember, it is just the constant visitations of course have an influence on a child who knows of something in the past he needs to talk about. Just pray they talk at the right time!

What is the only hope?  I believe only God can bring the truth to the surface and ask for your thoughts and prayers at this time where there is so much to have to think about and plan and still live through one's daily routine Mon-Fri. 

Will update info when there are more developments. Thanks and there is always HOPE!!!



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           ClayCook
March 2009 | ClayCook
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

 Dear Hope4u - thanks for the update - we wish you all the best.



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limmydean
February 2009 | limmydean
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Thanks for sharing your story,,,Lim :)



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limmydean
February 2009 | limmydean
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

I really feel for you and your children. I hope you can find a way to be able to not have that monster in your childrens lives.  I feel so angry about this situation.

I wish you all the best for the future xxx



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ClayCook
February 2009 | ClayCook
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

it makes me sick to think that he can still be with your kids.

is there any way that you can stop this? i am sitting here feeling sick and furious from just reading it.



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      Hope4u
February 2009 | Hope4u
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

Just a response to your comment:  proving sexual abuse occurred and proving specifically who did it is a very very difficult thing especially if it is a direct family member that is the alleged abuser.  It is the most difficult when it is the child's father that the alleged allegations are made because of the many, many 'mother's ' out there that lie about sexual abuse and when someone comes that is really telling the truth, they are often not believed. I am referring to the mother.  The statistics of 'mother's who lie about sexual abuse is very high and has been used as a weapon against a spouse.

So when you are telling the truth, because so many lie, you are almost automatically seen as suspect and treated that way. 

I have nothing to gain by even thinking of doing something like that, but when your child tells you something has been done to hurt them and they identify who did it, how can a true mother ignore that.  This is the biggest tug or war in one's heart I could describe because the mixture of shock and disbelief, yet fact that has been said to you by your child is there all the time and it does not just disappear one sunny morning. 

There is a decision to act or not to act.  The only way to prove this is if the child speaks themselves to a professional person and identifies exactly who hurt them.  For my daughter that is now 2 years ago, but she still remembers a lot and holds it deep inside. I have to believe she will speak up at the right time.  

To conclude:  As a mother in this situation, one has to be really careful to take one day at a time and stick to the truth that was told you and remain absolutely consistant in what was said, and hope and pray that at the end of the day the truth will prevail above all the accusing voices and the people that have treated you as the guilty party, having so called made it all up.  Standing firm to the end, for the most precious little children, it's worth it to the End.



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Arna
February 2009 | Arna
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I don't think I was ever sexually abused, but being in the foster care system until the age of 2, who can really know?  This is a very tricky part of the law to deal with as it is often deemed that teens lie and mothers coach their children to say it, which means it is very hard to get a case to be taken seriously.  There are many innocent men in jails around the world who were convicted on no evidence, only the say so of children and mothers.  And there are men and women walking around who should be in jail for sexual abuse who didn't even get to court because of the 'teens lie and kids are coached' mentality.

It must be very hard for you to go through all this.  Justice will come when you least expect it to.  Karma is alive and well, and your ex will get what is coming to him.  Patience is your friend, so try to be patient.

I read some interesting statistics recently about child sex abuse in the USA.  It was very scary to read that 49% of reported child sex abuse cases have been commited by women, which means that only just over half are commited by men.  And yet, how many women go to jail for child sex abuse?  Not enough of them.

Our justice systems are biased and completely contradictory when it comes to child sex abuse.  Until clear and unbiased laws and courts are found, then many abusers are going to walk and many innocent people are going to end up in jail.



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mcm
February 2009 | mcm
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This is a hard thing for you to write. It makes me sad, angry that this can happen. But I commend you on doing all you can to protect your children.



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Rukia
February 2009 | Rukia
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sending love to you and your family. its so good to hear positive stories on this.



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llmunchkin
February 2009 | llmunchkin
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

This is a pretty sad story, I can't imagine what a nightmare it is for you and your children to be involved in this situation... What has helped you to cope in this situation?  What has worked in regard to the case against your husband and what hasn't?  From what you have learned, what steps would you recommend any other parent take if they feel suspicious or concerned about their child/children?



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      Hope4u
February 2009 | Hope4u
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

Hi, in reply to your questions, firstly how have I coped through this situation?  I think 2 reasons mainly, 1.  Sticking to the TRUTH, when you are telling the truth about something you have nothing to hide, but are totally transparent and can persevere because the truth is backing you and their is no need for any pretence because you stock with the basics.

2.  I believe the Support of friends praying us through this situation has made a difference, and in the end I believe justice must come.

3.  Another thing that keeps you going is the memory of what your child has said they have experienced and thinking about their life ahead, 6months, 1 year, 3 years.  That is just such a motivating factor to keep acting for them.

Your 2nd question: what has worked and what has not?  I have had to fight on every front, even for maintenance.  This month he has only paid less than half and nothing more has been paid, leaving only enough for school fees and rent, not even food.  It seems when dealing with the law and someone within the legal system it is tougher. I really take one day at a time and keep strong in speaking the truth at all costs.

Question 3:  Which steps one should take when suspicions of abuse might be there.

1.  Very important:  If / when a child says something about abuse to themselves, do not ask 'leading questions'  As parents we don't get training in this and when suddenly faced with a child telling you some horror story, you are not sure what is meant by leading question.  A leading question is one that pre-determines the alleged perpetrator of the abuse in a negative light. e.g did ______do this, or touch you, did they _______also do this, or maybe this?  

2.Report the incident to the police who will either direct you to or adivse you to go and see a professional person, either Social Services or Child Psychologist that is trained in this type of  thing and tell them the statement the child made and let them take it from there.  They will compile a report that will speak for your child, and protects you as a mother as well.  There are , as I found out along the way 'mothers' who lay false allegations of sexual abuse against their husbands for some selfish gain. I think this is too terrible to think of and I felt so angry inside against those mothers because when you do stand for the truth, you are almost automatically looked at in a suspicious manner!  Mothers out there stick to the truth, and only what you know and go to someone who will support you through.



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           llmunchkin
February 2009 | llmunchkin
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Wow, thanks for the detailed response... It is all so hard to imagine, it must be an absolute nightmare for you!  I think the added information is great and as Clay suggested it would be brilliant to add it to your article too.  I feel sure that this will help anyone who finds themselves suspecious of/or in the same situation. Thanks for sharing and best wishes for you and your kids for the future.



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           ClayCook
February 2009 | ClayCook
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

this is great information. you can add it into your article if you want by clicking the edit link near the article (top right from memory)



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           bruciegee
February 2009 | bruciegee
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

Thanks for the article, Hope4u, ... and for the further information here, which is invaluable.



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janicepovey
February 2009 | janicepovey
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 You are one strong and devoted Mother and I take my hat off to you. We as parents should do everything within our power to protect our children. I can understand how hard it must have been for you to fight against power of who you are  and money....well done for not giving up.

Thanks for sharing this article.

Cheers Janice



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spinnychic
February 2009 | spinnychic
Re: Facing sexual abuse of both your children and fighting for their safety no matter what it takes

THANKYOU !!!! You are one Mother I would be so proud to have.......I too was abused and my mother knew but did nothing....I still struggle to this day with the effects of the abuse and I also feel like I do not have a mother that I can turn to for support as she did not protect me....

I wish you and your children strength and love for each other that lasts a life time, this is such a difficult thing to have to endure but you are doing the right thing and I too wish that your hope pays off and the monster that is hurting your children gets what he deserves....(I will not go into my beliefs in our justice system....but I am sure you can guess what they are...)

Sending big hugs because letting your children go would be so heart wrenching EVERY time and the lead up to it as well.

Cheers Spinnychic



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