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Breastfeeding lying down

Anonymous Author (August 19th)

I wanted to write some advice to highlight the practice of lying down to breastfeed.  It's something I started doing with my last baby, and I tried it again with my current little one last night, with brilliant results.  My baby is two weeks old today.

I know

very well how tiring it is to have to wake up many times overnight to feed the new baby, and I was dreading it this time, because for the first time I have a daughter in school and a son at kindergarten, as well as two younger children.  Add a brand new baby and I didn't know how I would cope.  Neither baby nor I were in any kind of routine at the beginning, and I believe that, although a mother with multiple children has the benefit of experience, she still needs to take the time to get into a routine with the new baby, and figure out what works for both of them.

For the first week, my daughter was very restless overnight.  Two nights in a row she didn't sleep until 7am, just in time for my other kids to wake up.  This is something similar to torture.  I didn't get much chance to catch up on sleep during the day, because the other kids needed supervision, and my husband didn't get home from work until after 7pm.  I'm still amazed at how tolerant I was with the kids despite the astounding sleep deprivation.

I had decided to try to breastfeed lying down, but not until the baby had improved her feeding technique,because she needed some guidance to attach properly and stay attached (little so-and-so kept adjusting herself).  Two nights ago, I was struggling to stay awake.  My head kept nodding and my hands kept dropping.  It was near impossible for me to stay awake and sitting up to hold the baby.  Baby was still quite restless, and it took four feeds to get her to settle for a three-hour sleep.  I spent some time online yesterday, looking at the Australian Breastfeeding Association's website.  They had some very helpful articles, and after reading most of them, I decided to try the lying down feeding technique.

The index of info articles can be found here:

http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/index.html

The breastfeeding while lying down article can be found here:

http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/laydown.html

Last night I did this.  When baby woke for a feed, I changed her nappy and then I lay her next to me, tummy to tummy and lined her nose up with the nipple.  She took to it instantly.  I held her in place with my top arm, and once she was on, I relaxed.  Next thing I knew, my husband was taking the baby and putting her back into bed.  She had fed for about an hour and was completely relaxed.  She stayed asleep for about three hours and woke for another feed.  I swapped sides and did the same thing.  I fell straight to sleep, baby fed for about 1.25 hours, and I woke and put her back to bed.  She woke at 9.30 this morning.

I feel so much better today.  My head is clearer and I have more drive and motivation.  I don't think I was totally asleep while the baby fed, but I was definitely resting.  I feel very confident now that I will be okay for the rest of the early days.

I'd like to suggest trying this technique to anyone who is exhausted and desperately needs more rest.  I'd also like to recommend the ABA website for great articles, and for giving me the confidence to know that I am doing okay.  Another useful article is the one about the Arsenic Hour.

http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/fussy.html

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beekay1
September 9th | beekay1
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

I co-slept with my daughter and breast fed lying down pretty much as soon as i got home.  I eliminated risks and found that my body was in sync with hers so when she stirred so did i.  I truly believe that this enabled me to get the rest i needed to be able to function better as a mother and to be quite honest even though she woke regularly for feeds i never experienced that full on exhaustion that alot of mothers do.  It also enabled me to be able to breast feed her for longer - something i am very pround of.  I think all mums really need to find what works for them and bubs best - if that means feeding lying down then so be it.  There are many mothers out there that disagree with this but there is no rule book on how to raise a child although many seem to follow sets of rules set out by people that are often not even parents themselves and cannot truly empathise with the situation.



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      llmunchkin
September 9th | llmunchkin
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

I really like your last sentence, it is very true!  I don't disagree with lying down to breastfeed, I just don't like the position shown in the link, I think it is risky for newborns.  My son was 2.5kg when born and a few times I fell asleep with him on top of me with my arms propped so that I was still holding him; however I would never have risked rolling on him by lying sideways like that.



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           KathrynR1402
September 10th | KathrynR1402
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

You might prefer the picture on the LaLeche website of a mother lying down to feed what looks like a newborn. And a similar sized baby on the Ameda site. I also stumbled across this article from 2 years ago that suggests laying a baby on it's tummy on top of mum laying down seems to make breastfeeding in the early days more successful - you learn something new every day! What do you know, there's even a video on You Tube, though I cant seem to embed it, so I'll try to link to it instead (is there anything thats NOT on You Tube?).



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                llmunchkin
September 10th | llmunchkin
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

These are far more palatable illustrations and explanations, I'll check the youtube when I have more time later... I still think that the ABA article and picture lack reasonable instructions and should provide far more information about being aware of any dangers as well. 



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                     KathrynR1402
September 10th | KathrynR1402
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

Did the ABA ever reply to your email last week?



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                          llmunchkin
September 10th | llmunchkin
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

Thanks for the reminder, I had forgotten to reply... Here is a copy:

Lui to Receptionist
show details 1:54 PM (0 minutes ago)

Good Afternoon Kate
 
Thank you for your reply to my email.  Whilst it is great that you have published this flyer and provided me with a link to SIDs, I actually wrote to you in regard to that one particular artice.
 
As you mentioned, the article does quote, "If you choose to co-sleep please consider all the recommendations about safe co-sleeping."  However the article in question provides no in depth instructions or details about how to breastfeed while lying down in a safe manner or even links in regard to these topics.  It is because of this that I find that particular article misleading and irresponsible. 
 
Thank you for providing the link to SIDs kids and their statement regarding co-sleeping, I am already familiar with this, I suggest that you provide it as a link to the article in question to help those who are not.
 
Kind Regards
 
Luisa Foliaki
Concerned Mother
 

 
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Receptionist ABA Head Office <info@breastfeeding.asn.au> wrote:

Dear Luisa
Thank you for your concern. Safe sleep practices are very important. ABA publishes a flyer called Is Your Baby Sleeping Safely in conjunction with Baby Friendly Health Initiative and the Australian Lactation Consultants Association. I attach for  this you.  Please note that in the article one of the points is -If you choose to co-sleep please consider all the recommendations about safe co-sleeping.
SIDS and Kids do not generally encourage co-sleeping because in certain circumstances it may be unsafe however they have examined the research and found that in certain circumstances co-sleeping or sharing a sleep surface may be safe. SIDS also point out the research showing that breastfeeding is facilitated by co-sleeping and this is very important for infant and mother health. See  http://www.sidsandkids.org/documents/SleepingwithababyInformationStatement.pdf
Hope this information is helpful.
Kind regards
 
Kate Mortensen IBCLC, ABA counsellorManager Lactation Resource Centre
 

From: Lui
Sent: Saturday, 22 August 2009 11:31 AM
To: info@breastfeeding.asn.au
Subject: Article on your website: Breastfeeding while lying down
To Whom It May Concern

I am writing to express my concern about this article that is posted on your site Breastfeeding while lying down.

I personally think that this article is irresponsible; it doesn't address the dangers of co-sleeping in an adults bed, the dangers of suffocation if the mother rolls on to the baby, nor does it recommend any age to begin this practice.

This article is also in conflict with safe sleeping practices advocated by SIDS guidelines which are to sleep baby safely in it's own sleeping environment until 12 months old.

Now there is a mother with a 2week old baby on Minti who has posted an article advocating this practice that she read about on your site and she has a 2 week old baby!

I look forward to your response to my e-mail as I personally think that this article should not only be deleted, someone should address the dangers of such practices.

Regards

Luisa Foliaki
Concerned Mother

 



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KathrynR1402
August 27th | KathrynR1402
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

I co-slept out of necessity with both of my girls and found as you have that it was the only way to keep going. With DD1 she was about 5 weeks old. I had just spent 3 weeks sitting up all night surrounded by a castle of pillows, because she had such a bad cold she could barely feed, and now my tail bone hurt too much to contemplate another night upright. She however didnt believe she could sleep alone, so laying down was my only option. By 6 months she was back on her own again. With DD2 she slept in a side-carred cot (as I remember Izzy's twins did) until she could move too much and I didnt feel safe leaving the side off, so we replaced the side and I lifted her in with me for feeding, and bam I was asleep and co-sleeping unintentionally! So I made it intentional and I took all the precautions and read up about it. She was co-sleeping with me for 2 years and there is no way I could have survived all that time without the gentle routine of co-sleeping - I rarely woke up for more than 10 seconds, at least twice and more often 4 times a night. But I never moved a muscle (yes, they ached when I got up most times from being so still), and from my reading online and in books, I believe that this is common with all co-sleeping breastfeeding mums - I knew I was hyper-aware of every move she made, though not in the jerk-awake kind of way. We were just synchronised, in movement , sleep cycle and breathing. I was just reading on Dr Sears website his wife's account of co-sleeping and it made it all come back to me, how synchronised we were.

I know there is a myth that co-sleeping increases the risk of SIDS but the scientific evidence is building up a picture that is the opposite to this - women who take all the precautions and intentionally co-sleep safely (not too hot, no risk of baby falling or jamming, no drink or drugged person in the bed, etc etc) are less likely to lose their baby to SIDS. Anyway, if you're interested, read Dr Sears article here. And don't bawl me out until you've read the whole page, eh? I know this is one of parenting's most emotive issues!

I need my sleep - my no-longer-co-sleeping 2 year old just woke up!

Here's to a good night's sleep for ALL of us, what ever our sleeping choices.



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      RockerMama
August 31st | RockerMama
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

Well said. When I rang SIDS and Kids and spoke to someone about co-sleeping, mentioning the fact that I was still pregnant, moving into a room that was 3x3 and would not have room for a cot, they said that statistically, more mothers co-sleep than seperate-sleep when their babies are under 6 months old, and more babies die in cots than in the family bed.  There are guidelines to follow for safe co-sleeping just as there are guidelines for safe cot sleeping and if these are followed, the baby shouldn't be in danger whether in family bed or cot.



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RockerMama
August 27th | RockerMama
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

Thanks for sharing this advice.  I was one of the lucky ones who had a baby that slept all night from day dot lol.  Don't ask the secret, I think it's just pot luck personally.  Still, she was fed in bed for her last feed of the evening and the first feed in the morning.  We co-slept and it was so nice and relaxing :)



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Izzy
August 26th | Izzy
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

I breastfed my first until he was 12 months but didn't discover breastfeeding in bed until he was probably 4 months old. It was a sanity saver for me since I usually breastfed sitting up in the middle of the night.  I would fall asleep with my head falling to the side or back and I'd awake with a jolt. But after I discovered breastfeeding in bed, I could get much needed sleep. Problem was, sometimes I would fall asleep within minutes of breastfeeding from one breast and would not be able to switch until next feeding. Of course, I had to deal with lopsided boobs when that happened. And also, sometimes my other breast would leak and we'd both be soaked. lol



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blue-raven
August 24th | blue-raven
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

I've done this with all my babies, and it is real life saver. I started with chomper hours after the birth. Hubby usually ends up putting bubs to bed! It's amazing how much better you feel when you've had some sleep. I recommend only doing it when you have someone around, to make sure you don't accidently smother baby. The other good point is that because your relaxed you let your milk down and baby gets a proper feed. I also found that baby sleeps better. I feed in bed at nite and in a chair during the day thus baby knows the difference between day and nite. Chomper is the best sleeper and has sleeped thru the nite from 12wks.

Thanks for writing this!

Cheers Raven



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Rukia
August 24th | Rukia
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

I totally agree. this method is a great 1 and I did this with both my kids. I found sitting wasnt comfortable for me but lying down was.



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Arna
August 23rd | Arna
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

I lay down most of the time to feed my now 1 year old, and I have done since she was a couple of months old. Not only was she getting a feed, but the pressure was off my back, shoulders and arms, which meant I didn't get numbness (a numb bum is not a nice thing to have when chasing a 2 year old!).

I fully support the decision to feed laying down, and was told by the midwive that it is the best feeding method for mums who aren't getting enough rest.



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mystikal
August 23rd | mystikal
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

I don't have much experience with breastfeeding which I won't go in to detail about but it's worth mentioning that this technique could potentially be dangerous to your baby. Please don't take offense to these comments, they are just trying to give a full picture of breastfeeding while laying down, warn of the potential risks and help others make a fully informed decision. While this is a well-written article it may be helpful to explore the pros and cons and critically analyse all information presented by the ABA. To be honest... I was a little more shocked at you calling your new born a little so-and-so....



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      Arna
August 24th | Arna
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

LOL.  I called willow a chimpanzee when she was born.  She just had those eyes!  And yes, I am paying for it big time now! rofl!



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Jessgore
August 23rd | Jessgore
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

I personally also benifited from breastfeeding lying down....  I was sitting in a chair while my son was three weeks old and I fell asleep while breastfeeding him and he fell to the floor.. Not something I love telling every one... In my hast to pick him up I to fell to the floor and thankfully I was in the way of the chair as it fell with me....  Thankfully also my son was wrapped up in so many blankets he was ok... I though was not..  Not only did I feel the brunt of the chair, my heart was broken because I DROPPED MY SON...

Now while breastfeeding while lying down does have its dangers I felt that I cleared as many possible dangers I knew about that could happen while breast feeding lying down..  I did not cover myself with any blankets. I held him in a positing where he could not slip and where I would not move.. I put pillows behind my back and on the other side of my arms o that I too would not move.

I breastfed both my kids lying down when I was to tired to stay awake. When I started doing this I to felt refreshed and able to solder on through out the day.   It was only the night time feeds that I needed to do this, and I personally benifited from it..

I think you really need to check your surroundings before you do it, and feel very confident.. But also remember accidents do happen... And be aware of all the possible dangers before you do it.. I would not breastfeed lying down on a sofa...



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      llmunchkin
August 23rd | llmunchkin
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

Great feedback Jess, so honest.  admonsta has raised a really important topic, I am suprised that other people haven't shared their experiences or opinion on the subject.



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admonsta
August 23rd | admonsta
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

Perhaps in a perfect world, nobody should fall asleep while feeding a baby.  However, I was falling asleep, desperately trying to stay awake but failing, whilst sitting up to feed her.  I tried this because I was unable to keep awake, and at least this way I wasn't dropping her.

Every time I do this, I find that I do not move an inch the whole time she's there, and when she's finished, she pulls away.  As soon as she does this, it wakes me from my semi-sleep (I'm aware at some level of what's going on), and I put her back to bed.

The article may be two years old, but in my book, that's not outdated, unless breastfeeding information is being replaced at the same rate as computer parts.  Also, the website is current and updated regularly, and if this info was not supported by the ABA, it wouldn't be there.  I won't comment on the start age, because it is not mentioned in the article, and in my opinion, the picture is not a recommendation, it's just a picture demonstrating the position.

Each mum should be free to investigate her options, and decide on the best course of action for her and the baby.  If a mum gets enough sleep while feeding sitting up, then that's great, but if she's struggling to cope, she might be better off trying something like this to get her through.  It is pretty much the same argument as the one for and against co-sleeping.  I don't co-sleep, but I am not going to tell a mum that she's wrong if she chooses to do it.

I hope you enjoy your website - I'm done here.  Too much criticism, too much political correctness, not enough acceptance of differences.  Lots of lovely people here, but it's not for me.



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      llmunchkin
August 23rd | llmunchkin
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

It's a shame you feel that way and I tried to word my comment constructively about how I feel; it was not an attack on your methods in any way.  You are the only person in a position to decide what is best for your child.  I know what it is like to doze off when feeding; especially in the early days when your world revolves around feeds, nappies and cuddles 24/7 and for this reason I got up and forced myself to sit up and feed leaning slightly back so that it was less likely that I would fall forward and a pillow under my arms to stop bubs from rolling anywhere; while leaving him room to detach and breathe.

Nothing is fail safe though and babies have been smothered whilst in hospital beds with their mothers, in their parents beds and whilst sitting up in chairs when their mothers fall asleep.  It is such a tragic and horrific thing to contemplate, all we can do is take it upon ourselves to reduce the risks to our babies at all times by doing what we think is best for them.  I did feed my baby lying down in various positions, however not when I was sleepy and not until he was a few months old.

In this instance, I think the ABA were remiss in publishing that article without more detail and without explaining the possible risks associated with this method and I have written to them to query why they have an article on their site that contravines SIDs recommendations and is about a practice that wouldn't be allowed in most maternity hospitals for safety reasons. 

Leaving the site merely because people don't agree with you seems rather extreme; the purpose of a parenting forum is to share different ideas, discuss experiences and opinions in an effort to help yourself and others decide what is the best method for them.  You are a very bright and capable woman with a lot of parenting experience and you have enriched the site in many ways.

 



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           llmunchkin
August 23rd | llmunchkin
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

Doting mother accidentally suffocated seven-week-old baby after falling asleep on settee

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-527688/Doting-mother-accidentally-suffocated-seven-week-old-baby-falling-asleep-settee.html#ixzz0P3oFPJEf
 

Accidental smothering of infants rarely results in charges (20 infants die in Minnesota each year of accidental suffocation)

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/local/49985722.html

Baby joy for tragedy mother (Tragically, the son she thought she would never have died when he was accidentally smothered by his exhausted mother while breastfeeding at night in a hospital bed).

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-206460/Baby-joy-tragedy-mother.html#ixzz0P3pWgdT0
 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-206460/Baby-joy-tragedy-mother.html

I am sure you get the idea, there are a lot of tragic stories like this... The point I am trying to make is that when you present an idea like this, it is also important to clarify the risks involved.  If you know of ways to eliminate or decrease the risks, then it would be great to hear them as well.

 



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sandra106
August 21st | sandra106
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

I think is not a safe practise no one should fall asleep while feeding a baby.



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llmunchkin
August 21st | llmunchkin
Re: Breastfeeding lying down

This is well written, original and it is from personal parenting experience as well as providing links to further reading on the topic.  I can't speak for the other average votes, however I can say, that for myself, I wouldn't consider doing this with a baby so young.  What if you rolled on the baby in your sleep, or the baby detached and couldn't breathe against your breast?  I know that the article in ABA is about how to do this, however that article is 2yrs old and they don't recommend at what age to start; yet the baby pictured is clearly over 6mths old and a lot stronger than a 2week old baby. 



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