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For some reason people don’t like to invite peanut allergy kids to their children’s birthday party…

Tammy13 by Tammy13 Talking(August 2006) (rank 87th)

I have no choice but to start this advice with a question: how much do parents really care if the child that was invited to their child’s birthday party – would come?  

Here’s how it goes: I get the invitation. I call back to the

RSVP no provided. On the other side answers the mother (I never got a father to talk to…) who invited. “…Thank you so much for inviting Gilad (my son)” I say, “ we would love to come, but there’s a small problem - Gilad has peanut allergy and that’s a bit of a problem with the food, you’re going to have in your daughter/son’s party.” I pause, waiting for a reply.

It takes some time and then the mother says, “oh, that’s too bad! That must be really difficult on you!” I answer, “no not really, we got used to buy foods that have no peanuts traces, and they cost the same, so it’s really nothing to worry about”. I pause, waiting for an answer… “Oh” says the mother “my son/daughter would be so much disappointed! They wanted so much Gilad to come to their party! That’s too bad! Well thanks any way for calling back to me!”  

So I’ll ask again - do parents really care if the child that was invited to their child’s birthday party – would come?  

My son, Gilad, is 4 years old. Up until now he was invited to 6 birthday parties. 4 he couldn’t go to. Why? Because he’s got peanut allergy. The other 2 we went to, were peanuts and peanuts traces free. Why? Not because the birthday kids have allergy as well. Oh no. The reason we could go is because the parents of these kids said to me – well can you advice me what to buy so Gilad can come? One of them even asked me to go shopping with her for the party, because I have more experience in reading the “small label” of allergy warnings.  

I’m writing this after reading Educational Birthday Parties For All The Family written by a Minti member. In her article, one of the things I liked most was the following: “One of the best pieces of advice that I ever received when I was planning one of my children’s parties, was to take time to speak to the parents of each of the invitees in order to identify their child’s strengths and weaknesses…. Whether you are hosting the party yourself or using a venue where food is provided, find out in advance whether any of the children who have been invited have any specific allergies.  The worst thing that could happen would be to have peanut butter sandwiches if one of the children had a severe nut allergy.”

For the first time – I saw that there are people that care. And for that I’m thankful. Unfortunately, in my experience – they are few. And as time goes by, it sometimes feels like a peanut allergy (or any other allergy for that matter) is like being a leper.

Let me ask you another question – suppose that your favourite family member or your best friend is coming over to dinner at your place. And suppose that they ring you and say: “listen, I’ve just been at the Dr, and I was told I can’t eat sprouts any more because it is really bad for my stomach. You know how much I love sprouts, but I just have to stop eating that. And I know how much your family love sprouts – so I just can’t come to have dinner with you.” Would you say, “oh, that’s too bad… bye” or would you say “well, no worries – we’ll just cook something else tonight! That’s no big deal!”

Peanut allergy, or any other allergy, is not a crime. It can be controlled. And you can LIVE with it happily – unless other people make you sad about it.

Please – when you invite children to your child’s party – be considerate about the “child’s strengths and weaknesses” – other wise don’t invite. I know this whole advice sounds somewhat demanding, somewhat accusing – well, it is. Maybe because we’ve been treated like criminals due to the peanut allergy. And we haven’t done anything wrong.  

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Rukia
December 9th | Rukia
Re: For some reason people don’t like to invite peanut allergy kids to their children’s birthday party…

I have a cousin with Nut allergies and a heap of kids at my kids school are all nut free kids, So we are used to the whole no nut thing at our place. I also babysit on occasions and always ask what children can and cant have. One of my closest friends daughters can not have OJ, makes her very ill. My son can not have things with certian preservitives etc.

I do feel sorry that your son has had to miss out on birthdays from lack of caring parents.

When doing a birthday I normally make my own food so it is all nut free.



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kristydavies
December 9th | kristydavies
Re: For some reason people don’t like to invite peanut allergy kids to their children’s birthday party…

I can understand what you are going thru but my problem is with family. i have offered to make food and take it there tol make it easier for them and be told that it is ok they have checked everyhting and made sure it was all safe for him to turn up and there is nothing he can eat and then be asked if they can make a peanut butter sandwich for a child at the party because that is all he eats. Then i end up being the worst person in the world and told i am over reacting and too over protective because we leave.



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llmunchkin
June 2008 | llmunchkin
Re: For some reason people don’t like to invite peanut allergy kids to their children’s birthday party…

It must be very frustrating for you, and it is sad that you have found some people less than caring... It always shocks me that some people offer my son food without asking me first - I would never offer another persons child (or pet for that matter) food of any sort without checking that it was ok.  It doesn't take a lot to accommodate a child with allergies, and it is a good education for the kids who don't have them to eat differently for a change at a party etc. 



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electrifying02
4.00 (Good) | April 2008 | electrifying02
Re: For some reason people don’t like to invite peanut allergy kids to their children’s birthday party…

i have to agree with you my oldest is alergic to alot of diary stuff and i have to watch her . but i rememeber on my 18 th i had a girl that was a diffrent race and didnt eat meat so my mum catered for her aswell but she wasnt gratefully still very rude to my mum

love belxxx



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folkartist
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | folkartist
Re: For some reason people don’t like to invite peanut allergy kids to their children’s birthday party…

This is a really good article and I hadnt actually thought of asking parents if their children had allergies -especially peanut ones. But in saying that I have always tried to have party food that would be suitable for everyone. I think having kids going to school and not being able to have peanut butter/hazelnut spread sandwiches and any nut products in their lunchboxes has contributed to that, making me more aware.  



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Arna
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | Arna
Re: For some reason people don’t like to invite peanut allergy kids to their children’s birthday party…

When we start the party rollercoaster, I will be putting on the invites to advise me of any allergies or nutritional requirements the attendees may have so that I can cater for them.

I think the way you were treated was actually quite rude, and your son was probably looking forward to going too, which makes it even worse.



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      Tammy13
April 2008 | Tammy13
Re: For some reason people don’t like to invite peanut allergy kids to their children’s birthday party…

I'm glad you feel that way - yes i also think it is rude not to invite someone because he/she have an allergy. Thanks for the support!




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kseers
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | kseers
Re: For some reason people don’t like to invite peanut allergy kids to their children’s birthday party…

I can't believe it!  When my son had his birthday party, we had nut free and egg free food as his cousin is anaphylactic, but we also had food for his vegetarian friend and for his friend with coeliacs.  Hard work, but worth it for ALL the kids being able to enjoy themselves.  Largely we stuck to fresh fruit and veges with home made dips, but I also bought things with safe ingredients for cake etc....  I went to a birthday recently with a nut free, egg free and soy free cake - to cover all the allergies.  The parents really appreciated it.

One friend I know takes her son to the party, providing the parents have no nut based foods and she advises them she will bring her own snacks and cakes for her son.  But even then she has found things like chocolates in the pass the parcel etc....  because people don't understand it is a risk.

I can't believe you would just accept that the person can't come - must make you so mad!



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      Tammy13
April 2008 | Tammy13
Re: For some reason people don’t like to invite peanut allergy kids to their children’s birthday party…

mad is not the word for it! you're right, it might be what some people call a "hard work"but like you said - it's worth it for kids to enjoy! thumbs up for you and all those like you who think the same! unfortunatly not all people think like that and especially some of our family members have shown us in the past their "narrow mind"about this issue (we didn't go to my brother-in-law wedding because the menu was NOT nut-free.

thanks lots for your comments!



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meggles
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2006 | meggles
Allergies.
My son s allergic to peanut butter and a number of other foods. Most of the parents who invite shane ask me what he can and cannot eat and work with me BUT I also organise to take some "special" food with me just in case. Fortunately, shanes allergies are not life threatening. There is a little girl we know and she can die if she has anything with peanuts. Her mum takes a selection of party foods that Sophie can eat to eat party. Most parents will also try and help but if they are unwilling or unable then she has her own special food. It is hard on the kids sometimes but it seems sometimes people get overwhelmed and afraid of allergies and of kids with them. Hopefully you will strike some nicer parents in future. best wishes


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FireFighterDaddy
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | FireFighterDaddy
Child Safety

Anyone that has a child with a nut reaction will have a epi pen in their possesion at all times. How many people know how to use these pens, how many people know that if the pen is used on a child that is not having a reaction you can send them into a cardiac arrest, if the child is having a reaction when do you give it and how long do you hold the pen in place. Many people don't know the procedure, and if you don't know , don't have the child over or have the parent attend the party to take the liability off the home owner. Epinepherine is the same drug paramedics give cardiac arrest patients to help set the heart back to a normal beat or to assist with defib. If 1mg of epi can send you into a tachacardic beat, a epi pen can kill a child if not used correctly. Take this into consideration and have the parents attend the party just in case something does happen and the pen has to be used, if you dont know how to use the pen you can cause more harm than good. 



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      Tammy13
September 2006 | Tammy13
Child Safety EXCELLENT!

Well said! When someone comes to our home, the first thing i do is show them where Gilad's Epipen is, and i briefly explain how to use etc. If this scares them, I just mention to them that if something will happen to me - they need to know what to do incase something happens.  Same goes with family and friends - they all know the location of the epipen when we go to their place and what to do.

I've read once that in a daycare in australia a child had an anaphilaxis attack - the teacher was so histeric from what's happening to that 4 year-old, and although she was trained to use the epipen - she injected the epipen to her arm instead the child's leg. The child died.



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Kate
2.67 (Average) | September 2006 | Kate
Ouch! The fury of a parent...

I wonder if you can get a minti badge for scolding a grown woman so viciously?

Listen, I was simply trying to share my thoughts from the non-allergy side of the coin... that's my perspective.  Reading my comment again, I can see now that it can come across a bit abrasive; which I truly regret.  It wasn't my intention.  I have never fully considered this before, so as I said, I am greatful that it is brought to our attention because obviously it is a more prevalent issue in the world today and we need to be educated.

Tell me, do you think you are doing a good job of educating us by your explosive, immature and  abusive reprisal?  You are forgetting that not everyone knows first-hand what it is like to deal with allergies, and therefore will not likely please you with any comment other than one that validates your cause and pats you on the back supportively.  Are you so insecure in your conviction that you can't handle a little opposition?  I'm just learning about this and trying to add my thoughts to an open discussion... isn't that what this is?  If I am in the "Validate Tammy Forum", let me know - I'm in the wrong place!

If you want compliance (but not compassion?!) for your son's allergy, you should at least be willing to try and see things from the other side.  Consider what you are asking of people (short from reading your mind) and clarify what peanut-free means to your family because obviously allergies have a range of varying degrees.  To me a peanut-free home suggests that I not only avoid the obvious foods, but that if I tread on a candy wrapper that has traces of nuts on it and then accidentally tread it on my carpet, I could essentially be putting someone in mortal danger! Think this sounds dramatic?  Well maybe that's why I'd be reluctant to have someone with a severe allergy in my home.  We are told by the media that allergies are a edemic to fear, yet told by parents to treat their children like any other (except for all the precautionary measures of course).  Think this sounds confusing?  Me too!

On the topic of my home though, I did give myself a terrible representation because in fact; I do ask about allergies (and dislikes) when having people over for the first time.  I haven't encountered any allergies yet (only a few accomodated vegetarians) so I can say that I would do my best to provide a meal according to my guests "strengths and weaknesses".  If that means going to a reastaurant instead, well, we could do that too.

As for your emotional dissection of my previous comment, I see that I did contradict myself somewhat - as anyone might do if they are only newly considering the implications of any given subject.  Please cut me some slack - I never said I was an authority on the issue, only someone from from a non-allergy prespective.  As for decontaminating my home for a friend-of-a-friend or someone that I don't regularily see - no, I wouldn't do that.  Any considerate person would not expect that I do.  If we became close friends with someone with allergies who came over often, I would absolutley make changes.  If your child was allergic to dogs, would you expect the parents to put their pets in a kennel and disinfect their homes?  Seems to me that you would consider it a terrible injustice suffered by your family if they didn't comply. 

I do stand by my sentiments regarding the dissatvantages put on other children at school, as I believe that those with allergies need to learn to live in a world that will prevoke them detrimentally.  Obviously that includes myself or my children should one of us develop an allergy.  I trust that those children and their parents know how to best handle those situations as well as the school board.  I think that the key to all of this is in education and compromise.

I will sympathize with your son because it must be difficult for him.  I never suggested that his condition was criminal nor have I likened him to a leper.  Further, I don't think he (or anyone else) should feel like an alien, but do you realise that your approach to lecturing us alienates him even further?  Perhaps a more positive education from you would help us to understand that inclusion in our schools and homes is possible, and not all that difficult.  Try more facts and less emotionally driven angst, and I'm sure you will be recieved much more graciously.

And yes, if my child develops allergies, I'm gonna send them packing!  For pete's sake, are you serious?!  What a ludicrous suggestion.  Grow up!



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      Jessgore
3.38 (Average) | September 2006 | Jessgore
Ouch! The fury of a parent...

Nothing like a parent scorned.. Of course a parent is going to be very protective of their child....

I understand where you are coming from as not knowing much about the allergy, and you need to know where we are coming from...  I am sure that Tammy has seen it from the other side but, you ask any parent when someone says... "if a child with peanut allergies was in the same class as mine I'd be furious"...  how will they feel.. Of course they are going to get upset. I mean any parent will jump to the defence of their child, and not just over allergies......

And you'll find these days schools are not allowing kids to have any snacks that could have peanuts in them... 

 



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           Tammy13
2.00 (Poor) | September 2006 | Tammy13
Ouch! The fury of a parent... HERE HERE JESSQORE !

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.



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      Tammy13
2.23 (Poor) | September 2006 | Tammy13
Ouch! The fury of a parent...But of course!
Lets do – again – some order in your comments, because you, again – continue contradict yourself:   You wrote: Reading my comment again, I can see now that it can come across a bit abrasive; which I truly regret.  It wasn't my intention.  I have never fully considered this before, so as I said, I am greatful that it is brought to our attention because obviously it is a more prevalent issue in the world today and we need to be educated.   Thank you. I could have said: “I appreciate your regret and the fact that realized certain things and so on”. BUT – you didn’t really regret and understood because you went on:   Tell me, do you think you are doing a good job of educating us by your explosive, immature and  abusive reprisal?   So you don’t really regret and you’re abusing me. You’re actually attacking me.   You also wrote: “…Well maybe that's why I'd be reluctant to have someone with a severe allergy in my home.” And then you wrote: “I do ask about allergies (and dislikes) when having people over for the first time.  I haven't encountered any allergies yet…” – so what you’re saying is that you are asking people, but up until now no one that came to your home had allergies. And on the same breath you’re saying that you’d be reluctant to have someone with allergies at your home. So – again, if and when that time will come, and you’ll make friends with someone that has allergies – would you say to them: don’t come to my home? Or if your child will develop allergy – would you say to him or her – get out of my home?   You wrote: “you should at least be willing to try and see things from the other side.”. Well I have. And that’s why I have written that article (For some reason people don’t like to invite peanut allergy kids to their children’s birthday party… ) and the second one (Preparing a birthday party that include peanut allergy children (or any other food allergy/sensitivity children). I have tried to understand why people don’t invite us to birthday parties, and since I can't – I wrote what I wrote. Because I still can’t understand why someone with peanuts allergy (or any other allergy), cannot have social life. It is not contagious.   You wrote: “As for decontaminating my home for a friend-of-a-friend or someone that I don't regularily see - no, I wouldn't do that.” So, again, what you’re saying is that if your child comes to you and say he/she would like to have their best friend over but that this friend have peanut allergy – you would say no, because your child’s friend is actually not your friend. Right? So you’re raising your children to be, in a way, racist. You’re raising your children to choose their friends by their health issues. I’m sure you’re aware of the saying “… regardless to skin color, sex and religious”. Maybe we should expand this saying and from now on say: “…regardless to their skin color, sex, religious and… allergies”. And by the way – I do not expect any one to decontaminate their home when we come. I have a very good friend that her children (ages 12 and 4) LOVE peanut butter. But when we come she “decontaminate” her home like that: all the peanut/nut foods are placed on the top shelves, and she wipes the chairs and table incase her son stained them with peanut-butter sticky fingers. Oh yes, and of course she makes sure the food she makes us is peanuts free. And let me tell you something – she doesn’t call her shrink after every visit of us to complain how hard it is and her kids don’t throw themselves on the floor for not being able to have peanut butter.   You wrote: “…as I believe that those with allergies need to learn to live in a world that will prevoke them detrimentally.” I must tell you – I didn’t really understand the English in that sentence of yours and I asked a friend of mine (who has a MUCH BETTER knowledge in English than me) and she didn’t really understand you also. We did, however, came to the conclusion that you were trying to say that those with allergies should get used to live in this world. Well – If that’s what you meant (and forgive me if WE misunderstood you), then – THEY DO. People with allergies ARE learning to live in a world that the majority (so far) have no allergies. And they are doing fine… up until the point were they meat people that have no tolerance, understanding and acceptance towards them.   And then you wrote, “I think that the key to all of this is in education and compromise.”. REALLY? Wow! I’m so happy to hear you say that! So – will you compromise – I.E. let an allergy person come to your home even if he/she is not your friend? Or by using the word compromising you actually mean that THEY (the allergic people) should compromise and not have a fully normal social life?   You wrote: “I will sympathize with your son because it must be difficult for him.”. I have a question to ask you: lets say your child asks you for ice cream just before dinnertime. You say “no” because dinner is coming soon. Do you realize this is VERY DIFFICULT for your child, to hear the “no” and not getting that ice cream? It is difficult for every child not having the food at the time he/she wants it. So peanut-allergy or no peanut allergy – every child goes through this ordeal. What IS DIFFICULT for my son, being a 4-year-old, is having to see other people eat in front of him something he can’t have, especially when it’s something that looks sooooo good like a birthday cake. That makes him feel like an alien. And it’s not because he is. It’s because other people treat him as such. So no – I will not take my 4 yo to a birthday party that is not peanut free, not just because of the risk, but also because of his age – he will find it DIFFICULT to accept the world he lives in, and he will cry. And I will fully support his “decision” to cry. Because he is 4 years old. Let me refer you to something a Minti member (MumtobeKim) wrote in my second article “My brother had food allergies as a child (but fortunately not the life threatening ones).  For one party he went to the mother made normal food and allergy free food that looked like the real thing. She showed him which plates he could eat from and which he couldn't. then later they caught my brother eating the 'normal stuff' because he didn't want to be different.” That’s exactly what I’m talking about – making allergy kids feel like aliens. THEY ARE KIDS! They are not adults who understand if I’ll eat a mouthful of peanut cake in front of them, and they can’t. Kids are not mature like adults and cannot be expected to be. So why do the adults behave like children sometime? Why do some adults don’t grow up and? You wrote: “I wonder if you can get a Minti badge for scolding a grown woman so viciously?” 1.    Grown woman? Ammmm… 2.    Minti badge? I’m not a child. I’m not looking for a reward. That’s not why I’m here. And I really don’t think I need to explain why I’m here. Grown-up people will understand by themselves.


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      Tammy13
3.50 (Good) | September 2006 | Tammy13
Ouch! The fury of a parent... just one more thing:
when I wrote you're raising your children to be racist, I used the wrong word - sorry about that. I meant discriminate.


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           Kate
3.75 (Good) | September 2006 | Kate
Ouch! The fury of a parent... just one more thing:
Well Tammy, I think that maybe a more than a few words are getting mixed up, and we are clearly not agreeing. That's ok. I am learning, and I'm am always open to discussion... but you never actually answered any of my questions. So this is not a discussion, but a cat fight, and I've got more constructive things to do. We are not communicating very well, so I'm not going to follow up on this anymore. But I will tell you what I have learned: 1. That allergies need alot more attention; and I'm going to continue to increase my knowledge and awarness. 2. To be more sensitive when discussing issues, especially through written word, because it's imposssible to convey thoughts without being misunderstood (and misquoted). I'm over it, man. No cheap jabs, no character assumptions and no spitefull words. I still think that a softer approach to teaching others would be a positive move on your part; but that's just my opinion.


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                Primal-Fire
2.14 (Poor) | November 2006 | Primal-Fire
Ouch! The fury of a parent... just one more thing:
I think you have taken the best course of action. Happening upon this thread was indeed a sad indication of some people's hostility, and inability to form reasonable arguement and debate. It seems that you disagreed with Tammy's opinion (which is highly emotional to begin with, and overly self-gracious,) and as a result of this, she delved into line after line of attack, and attempted analysis on your writings. This kind of arguement is clearly not sound, nor evident of any education - if two people can't have differing opinions without  the sort of retaliation she inflicted, then it is best as you say to be the better person, and back down. After all, a 'cat-fight' isn't why we come to Minti, especially against a cat who only fights with claws, and not feline intellectual prowess.


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                     Tammy13
May 2007 | Tammy13
Ouch! The fury of a parent... just one more thing:



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                Tammy13
2.09 (Poor) | September 2006 | Tammy13
Ouch! The fury of a parent... just one more thing:
Thanks. That's all I wanted. Awarness and more sensitive to this Issue. Thanks again, Tammy


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Kate
3.29 (Average) | August 2006 | Kate
Depends on the severity of the allergy?

I think that your advice will make us think about this more.  As allergies are much more common with the younger generations, most of us probably don't realise the extent of the problem (and are not just knowingly inconsiderate).

In my sister's kindie class this year will be a boy who is severley allergic to peanuts.  My sister has to alter her cirriculum and omit quite a few of her regular feild-trips and activities because of his allergy... not only that, but the kids in her class (both am & pm) will have to be peanut free so that he dosen't come into contact.  Now, I truly empathise with this child and his parents; but I would never invite him to my house.  The liability is too great; and I cannot create a 100% peanut free home.  What about the class who is now unable to do all of the wonderful field-trips?  If my child was in that class, I'd be furious.  One child's allergies should not put 30 kids out of those enriching experiences. 

If my children became best friends with a child with severe allergies, I would absolutley try my best to ensure their safety in my home; but not without the constant worry about having to administer an eppi-pen (sp?) and taking a trip to the ER!

So I suppose it all comes down to the severity of the allergy?  With your son, it sounds managable; and I hope that whenever possible, people are gracious and accomodating.  The poor little guy having to miss birthday parties is awful!



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      Tammy13
3.00 (Average) | August 2006 | Tammy13
Depends on the severity of the allergy? SHAME ON YOU!
I must say that you manage to contradict  yourself left right and center! I’ll try to “make some order” in your comment: you wrote, “With your son, it sounds manageable”. Well – it is manageable! Every allergy is! You basically avoid the foods that cause the allergic reaction! Then you wrote: “…I would never invite him to my house…. If my children became best friends with a child with severe allergies, I would absolutely try my best to ensure their safety in my home” – MAKE UP YOUR MIND! Would you or wouldn’t you invite them? Oh, only if they are best friends? So if your child is only a FRIEND but not best-friend and still wants the allergic child to come – you would say no? Then you wrote “What about the class who is now unable to do all of the wonderful field-trips?” – look, I have no idea what happened and you didn’t really give much information. I do know that here in Australia, trips are being held in schools and they manage to MANAGE the allergic kids that go with them. On the same issue, I will ask you: what about the allergic child who cannot attend activities because of people like you? What crime did he or she do? You also wrote: “I would absolutley try my best to ensure their safety in my home; but not without the constant worry about having to administer an eppi-pen