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How to deal with a 4 year old who never stops talking!

goldilox by goldilox Talking(September 2006) (rank 277th)

"What advice can someone give me to deal with a 4 (almost 5) year old WHO NEVER STOPS TALKING. He starts at 8 am and doesn't stop until 9-10 pm. ~By 3 pm everyday I have a splitting headache. I mean he can't go for more than 5 minutes without

talking. He has no other health problems and attends school regularly. Help!"

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"He starts at 8 am and doesn't stop until 9-10 pm"

My first thought is: why is he still awake at 9pm - 10pm?

One of the first things you can do is bring that bedtime forward. It will make sure he gets the sleep he needs, and that you have a bit more time to yourself. Let me know if you need advice on how to get him to go to bed earlier.

As for his talking the rest of the time, what is he talking about?

It is important to set aside time to truly listen to what he has to say - and more importantly to make him FEEL you are truly listening, and interested, in what he has to say.

You might try saying to him gently: "One moment, sweetheart, I can't listen right now, I'm just in the middle of xxx, I'll be with you in two minutes." If he continues to talk, repeat what you said calmly - without annoyance. Then make sure that after 2 minutes YOU ask HIM what he was saying - and listen with both ears : )

Now, if he keeps talking during those two minutes after you've explained to him the second time, don't respond. If he becomes upset, repeat what you said earlier with compassion - try not to show agitation.

I would actually set this up several times a day to begin with. Get involved with something, and start with asking him to wait just 2 minutes - no longer. You can then build on that later.

When he does keep quiet and waits as you asked - even if it's not for the whole two minutes - as long as it's for the last part, until you ask him to continue - it's vital you thank him for waiting. I would say something along the lines of "Okay sweetheart, thanks for waiting, what was it you wanted to say?"

The most important points are:

* try to remain calm and speak to him with compassion

* when you do listen - make sure he feels he has your full attention

* don't let him prattle on without listening or without asking him to wait

* if you are consistant and compassionate, it will get better

* make sure your face lights up when he enters the room

Making your child feel listened to and understood can change who he is.

Another point is don't tell him he talks too much. Children will strive to live up to what we tell them that we believe about them. They do this unconciously. When he has been quiet for a while make sure you tell him he is such a sweet and considerate child and you're very proud of him. Tell him he is the best child in the world.

If you do this at every opportunity, over time, you will be absolutely right.

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mommyofWHA
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | mommyofWHA
Constant Talkers
My son ... love him.,.. but boy oh boy he could talk a person to sleep .. he has what we lovingly call verbal diarhea .. non stop .. it was a concern to me as his chatter was starting to get disturbing (he talks to ummm invisible people?) but we now know that it is a trait of Aspergers Autism, which he was diagnosed with about 6 months ago. He literally does not stop talking, even sleep talks... and is incredibly imaginative when he talks, he takes on several roles while he chatters to himself.. ie the principle, the student, the teacher, the parent .. all in a matter of 5 minutes or less .. and yes it drives me batty some days but I have to remind him (and myself as well ) that there is a time and place for talking, and when he gets loud (which happens frequently as well ) I do a count system (1, 2, 3 magic) and this generally helps him to remember ... dont stop them from talking, just make it clear that they need to listen too ...


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      JadieLady
4.00 (Good) | October 2006 | JadieLady
Constant Talkers
My brother has aspergers too, and also displays some of the traits you metioned- namely taking on different roles while he is having the one conversation wiht himself. and invisible people too.  Fortunately, we have owrked through a lot of the issues, as he also had a speech disability. and he still talks to heaven and back. all we can do at the moment is stop him and tell him to SLOW DOWN! he talks that fast a race commentator couldn't keep up with him!


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goldilox
September 2006 | goldilox
Dealing With Compulsive Talkers

This advice comes from my sister. She did a little research on “compulsive talkers” and here is some of the information she found, followed by her suggestions and advice for parents of children who appear to be “compulsive talkers”.

An Exploratory Investigation of the Characteristics of Compulsive Talkers:

Few persons are more irritating than those who talk too much. While many individuals are "talkative," most are within the bounds of social acceptability. However, there is a degree of talkativeness that goes far beyond the bounds of social acceptability and that many persons find to be highly unpleasant. Some use the term "compulsive"(1) when describing such individuals. When a compulsive talker is involved in an interpersonal interaction, participants react with irritation, impatience, and disgust. Compulsive talkers seem to overvalue the quality of their contribution and signal (through refusal to listen) that others' ideas are unimportant. Worse, they often seem unaware of their problem. Regardless of cause, there seems to be universal agreement that talkers are a problem, both to themselves and to others. Accordingly, information about talkers would be useful in helping talkers control this behavior.”

 

“In an earlier investigation (Bostrom, Grant, Davis, & Einerson, 1990), two factors emerged that seemed to serve as reasonable criteria for the designation of "talkers:" (1) in an interpersonal interaction, they literally talk "nonstop," and only give way when another interactant begins talking, and (2) their talking is perceived by others as a problem. The behavior of talkers is a serious problem, not only affecting the talkers but those who work and live with them.”

My sister wishes to add the following advice and suggestions to my original advice above:

1.) Has the child been tested for being "gifted"?

2.) What is his diet like? If he is prone to this - he should avoid caffeine at all costs. Refined sugar and processed foods should also not be handed out liberally.

3.) Does he have a regular routine? Has he always talked compulsively or was there a big change that might have triggered it?

4) Does he get enough quality one-on-one attention from primary care givers?

In any event:

Training to speak less and listen more.

1.) Listening games. Read to the child at bedtime. Start with a short story that can finish in 2-5mins and tell him that there is a prize for staying quiet for the whole story. At the end of the story he can ask questions and talk for 5mins.  Make the story time longer when he consistently can keep quiet 3 nights in row. Always 5mins at the end where he can say whatever he wants and you listen with eye contact and respond.

Play charades and miming games. Hide and seek

Make sure they are all things your child can win at and enjoy. Tempting as it may be, DO NOT let them hide for too long so that they jump out and break their silence - that is just enforcing that they fail to be silent.

Make silent contemplation and listening fun.

Must be short and often

Do these things for short periods often in the day - not once a day for a long time.

Suggestions - all must be done with sense of playfulness and fun:

Miming

1 minute miming game at the very start of each day. You have 1 minute  to guess the animal he is miming. If you guess it right - he can do another one. Use a clock so he can see for himself. Don't drag out getting them right. This will just make him think he can't communicate without words. 5 seconds is enough per animal - then lots of praise. Give him a star for that each morning that he can put on the chart himself.

Pick up from school

A small prize or star for staying quiet for the first 40 seconds when you pick up from school. During the 40 seconds he must think about the first 5 -8 words he will say, and you will be trying to guess them during that 40 seconds.

After 40 seconds you say "I think you are planning to say "Hello dad. I’m an orange"

Every few days you can say "As we step into the house neither of us may talk for 40 seconds and we must walk like we are on the moon. This is to reinforce keeping quiet together and calmly entering your home. If you do this everyday it will become boring so just do it for fun some days.

After this you can get him to fetch the clock and you can book, "time alone with your thoughts".

This is a 15 minute slot when he needs to let you have your attention to yourself and your thoughts, as this is what you would like to do - just like he likes to play with whatever.

Take 20 coloured sticks or beads each per day - quite big things so they are not lost and can easily be accessed. -

Each time you want to say something you put a bead or stick in the jar.  At the end of each day you can cash in the remaining beads or sticks for something valued - each bead can represent 5 extra minutes in the park or on the play station, or a star etc. For you it can be anything but NOT extra silence from him.

Don't allow him too few beads/sticks otherwise he will fail and hate the game. If it is easy to do, at least for the first week, he will like it and become accustomed to it.

Basically even if he doesn't stop being such a talker - it will help him be aware of when he is talking and help him to be aware of other people needing quiet time to themselves.

Extra comment from Goldilox:

This will benefit him immensely in his social skills, and will help him to get along with, and be accepted by, others. Helping him to learn to respect others’ time and space, and learning to listen, will help him immeasurably in school, and then as an adult.

 



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      samantha
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | samantha
Dealing With Compulsive Talkers
i know what your talking about, i know someone like this (an adult) and it is beyond just being talkitive she actually will not stop talking and you never get to say a single word if you do she talks right over top of you, she dosn't have any friends because of it, so i spose what your saying is this sort of thing can be  helped if from a young age you become aware of it  so that you can help them to learn how to control this kind of behaviour so it is under control before they are adults as it can isolate them, i think to those out there who do not understand all i can say is you havn't met a compulsive talker yet


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angelmum
4.00 (Good) | September 2006 | angelmum
Why stop him
I think fabulous that he has so much to say, why would you want to shut him up, my kids never shut up but if they were not talking I would be worried.   And if you have a headache take a pain killer dont blame your son he has so much wonderful energy.


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      goldilox
September 2006 | goldilox
Why stop him

Angelmum, I agree that it's wonderful that her child is overflowing with energy and has so much to say. But of course, it's important to give parents tools to cope with their children positively, and although my first reaction was that it was harsh for her to want him to talk less, we don't know the full situation. The fact remains that if his constant talking is causing her stress, then it is causing her stress, and telling her to not be stressed by it won't solve the problem.

The sugestion of just taking a pain killer for the headache can lead to her letting him rabbit on in the background while she gets on with whatever it is she is doing. This, I believe is not fair to the child. He deserves to be listened to and understood, not just allowed to talk.

I was asked to care for a child, whose parents complained he talked too much and it was driving them crazy, and I discovered that there were two main reasons for this:

1. They didn't understand what he was saying - to them it was waffle and incoherent stories they just couldn't get their heads 'round. They genuinely couldn't "tune in" and understand what it was he was saying.

I managed to "tune in" and discovered the most incredible imagination, and wonderful way of thinking. But I was able to do that because I was calm, keenly interested, and had no "baggage" with him from the past. I also made the time to stop what I was doing and fully focus on and listen to what he was saying, asking questions when I didn't understand something. This made him feel interesting, understood and valued.

2. Because he wasn't getting full focus on, and understanding of, what he was saying, he was constantly trying to "get through to" them. Which is why I recommended that this lady set aside time to fully focus on what it is her child is saying. I believe one of the reasons it has reached a situation like this - where she feels he is talking incessantly is because she isn't listening - which produces two main results: a) he is feeling a compulsion to get through to her, get her attention, and have her listen to and understand him, and b) because she is not listening, she doesn't understand what he's saying, and therefore it's "noise".

It's possible she is under stress about other things as well, and what she perceives as endless prattle, is adding to it.

I'd like to add something to the above:  When a child is taking a long time to say something, adults often have a tendency to interrupt them or try to finish their sentences for them. This leads to the child feeling they haven't had their full say, and/or the parent has misunderstood, and therefore it takes even longer as the child re-explains, or - the parent never finds out what the child was really saying as they've jumped to conclusions, and the child resigns himself to the fact that he hasn't been understood, or that he is incapable of explaining himself effectively - not so good for the self-esteem.

I feel it is very important to let the child say what they are trying to say in their own way and in their own time - which is why, in a busy parent's life, setting aside specific time to focus and listen fully to their child (grab a cup of coffee, and relax with it : ) will make all the difference. It's also important to make sure that it's more than long enough so that there isn't an urgency regarding the time scale. Give say half an hour to relax and fully focus and listen with both ears : )

This means: the child gets listened to and understood, feels the parent is interested in what he has to say, which implies that he is an interesting person (self-esteem builder); the parent is not stressed, and is listening to their child in a calm and relaxed way, which is obviously better for the child.



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           angelmum
September 2006 | angelmum
Why stop him
Oh I agreed with what you had written, and I was having a bit of a joke re the pain killer, my son is a great talker, can I understand all he is saying no, does he drive me bonkers yes, do I give him boundries as you had suggested yes, I have fabulous talks with my kids.  I agree on all your advice.  However I have a friend who has a son with severe autism and he doesn't say a word, he know a few things but not a lot, he is only just starting to show affection (his 8) and is an absolute handful, so to hear of someone who gets a headache because their child talks to much makes me a touch annoyed.  Love and embrace what you have, Thank God every day your child or children are healthy.


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