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Controlled Crying - our experience

hrs2004 by hrs2004 Young Parent(April 2006) (rank 8th)

As my Dad has always said to me, getting a child to sleep through the night is the first major milestone in a parent's life. What I have found is that bad habits are very easy to learn and harder, but not difficult, to break.

With our daughter, we

managed to get her in to a sleep routine at 8 weeks of age. This was a feed, getting rid of wind, a story, and a bedtime phrase (for us - "Night Night Leala. It's time to go to sleep" repeated a couple of times with a kiss). I later added in a bath (when we got more organised!), a timed night-light and soothing music (I have many copies of the CD, just in case...). As far as possible, I made sure that she went to bed awake but sleepy, and left the room. At first we had a few moans, but they lasted only a few minutes and got shorter and shorter until she would lie in her basket quite happily and drift off when she was ready. I have to add at this stage that she was always an easy baby and rarely cried...

My Mum also had sensible advice. We rarely get in to bed and go straight to sleep. We often need twenty minutes or so to wind down in bed, so why not let a baby do the same before rushing to stroke or rock them?

Well, things were wonderful for a while. She would go off like a dream. I can't remember when things changed, but it was probably during a cold or somesuch. Anyway, a few months back, when she was about 18 months old, we had ended up in a situation where she would only lie down in her cot if one of us stayed in her room with her until she drifted off. I remember even lying on the floor next to her cot just hoping she would take less then an hour. If we left before that, she would scream, there would be tears and I would feel terrible that she wasn't asleep and would go in to calm her down. What were we thinking!

Well, with my second child under construction, we realised that we really needed to do something. We often were not getting Leala asleep until gone 9pm, and then eating dinner, so our evenings were hardly relaxing. I had read about controlled crying but had shied away from it as I know how stubborn Leala can be.

We made a decision. Things had to change. I picked a time when she was relatively well in herself and decided to go for it. I felt awful as she had been so lovely and well behaved all day, whilst I knew that I was going to "be mean" to her that night. We did the usual bedtime routine, I turned on her music and lights and then left the room. She screamed. She screamed some more. She cried. She banged her head against the cot in anger and frustration. Her milk was thrown on the floor and she sounded almost hysterical. But it was in anger. I went in after 10 minutes, laid her down, then listened to it all start up again,. Each time I gave her longer before checking on her, and each time she started screaming with renewed vigour after I left her. I made a mistake early on in that she had almost calmed down yet I was due to check on her. It just upset her again when I went in and I wished I had left her alone.

On the first night, she cried for 50 minutes. The following night 45mins, and it got slowly better and better. After a week, she cried for around 15 minutes before calming down, and eventually going to sleep after about half an hour.

After around a month or so of this, we had a holiday scheduled. I thought this might throw a spanner in the works because we were staying in a small apartment and she would be sleeping in the same room as the TV, but behind a curtain. I carried on the routine as before. In the past, I have considered changing routines and "being nice" to her when we go somewhere that she is unfamiliar with. Then I realised that the one thing I can keep the same is her routine, and routines are comforting, so why had I considered changing that one thing I could control for her?

I thought that she might have settled so well because she could still hear me in the room, but when we got back from holiday, I couldn't believe how well she went down. Two weeks later, my partner and I are so relieved that she goes down without a murmur and sleeps without a peep for 12 hours. I go through the routine then leave the room. She has never slept so well, and this has even had a knock-on effect with her day time sleep - she also goes down then without much fuss.

All I would say is that I felt horrible listening to her scream and cry. It broke my heart and my boyfriend decided that he couldn't even bear to hear her on the monitor, so he stayed downstairs whilst I waited outside her room. I felt like I was hurting my daughter and she was upset, but I really do think that she was mainly angry with me. She had got everything just how she wanted it, yet I was regaining control. We needed time to ourselves and she needed to learn to go to sleep without us. After all, we weren't always going to be there (perhaps we wanted to go out!) and she needed to be more independent. Thinking about it, we would all love to be lulled off to sleep by being stroked, but that's hardly real life, is it? The main thing I found is that once I made the decision, I had to stick to it, be firm and be consistent. If I had started this and then given in after a couple of nights, it would have all been in vain.

As I said, she now goes off brilliantly. I can't believe that I now have two children that are in bed, and asleep by 8pm most nights, and the rest of the evening is ours! I no longer have bedtime battles with Leala. If she does moan, I go in and give her a quick cuddle, then leave. This always works. If it didn't, I think I would go straight back to lengthening the gaps between checks so as not to get in to another bad habit.

I have read some books and articles and have to agree with the advice that you need to work out what you really want, and then work out how to get it. It is tough initially, but I just wish we had done this earlier. I'm sure that this will be one of many battles, but I think that she is now more aware that I mean business, and hopefully (ha ha!) the rest will be easier.

I will finish with something my sister-in-law told me. "You're not being mean. You're doing her a favour by teaching her how to get herself off to sleep on her own". Although it didn't feel like that at the time, it's well worth the effort.

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cassaustin
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | cassaustin
Re: Controlled Crying - our experience

I have just started the controlled crying method today, i hope that i have as much success as you have. Although, i am a little worried that when my boyfriend comes home on the weekend from work that the routine may go out the window.

Great article!



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legslavelle
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | legslavelle
Re: Controlled Crying - our experience

Oh my god.. this article could have been written about my twenty one month old daughter to the letter, it got to the point where me or my hubby were sitting on the top of the stairs for anything up to two hours whilst she fell asleep. So last weekend after surfing for some advice, ( lovely knowing others were going through the same!!) we decided ENOUGH WAS ENOUGH!! It took two hours of settling and re settling on sat night,sun night only two return trips and tonight,WED, she went down with not a protest at 7.30pm and straight to sleep.CONTROL CRYING IS ONE HUNDRED % THE WAY TO GO!!!!!!!



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emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | emmie
Re: Controlled Crying - our experience

brilliant article

thanks for sharing this

emz



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lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | lexiw
Re: Controlled Crying - our experience

Great article glad you sorted it all out in the end

 Lexi xxx



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LavendaLady
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | LavendaLady
Re: Controlled Crying - our experience
Sound advice. I plan to try this with my son! Please keep sharing the advice!


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mumof2b
3.80 (Good) | April 2007 | mumof2b
Excellent article
It really does work if you want it to and if you persevere. I did controlled crying with my first son and yes he screamed and cryed for ages but he also knew i loved him as i told him everytime i went into him and all the time during the day and i still tell him. He is a well adjusted child with great empathy for others at only 6 years of age...... what i'm saying is that by doing controlled crying with him it has not harmed him in anyway at all.  For someone to say that we are being insensitive is not fair. Remember we got this way because have rocked or cuddle our babies because we LOVE them and want to be near them and make them happy and yes that maybe a little selfish....... If that makes me wrong then so be it!  Also remember we all make mistakes and aren't asking to be judged or condemed for them.


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      hrs2004
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | hrs2004
Excellent article

Thanks for your comments. The reason I have given the article the title I did is because I wanted to share my experience. This is not a technique everyone agrees with and so not one to do if you aren't happy with it. With my second, I set a strict bedtime routine very early on - bath, book, nightlight & music and leave. He has always had this and rarely does this change. As a result, bedtimes are straight forward as he knows completely what will happen next and even points at the pull-cord of the music player as a prompt. Having said that, I have to say that I feel that I have been "meaner" to him, by not spending that extra quiet time with him of an evening, but I didn't want to start a habit that I would later need to break. Maybe I have gone from one extreme to another, but as parenting is all about learning and change, well, perhaps I'll get a better balance if number three comes along!

I agree that most bad habits come about more through love than anything else. None of us set out to upset our children and we don't always have a manual of strategies to try, but all suggestions for different techniques are welcome - how can we truly find the best one for us if we can't think of it and no one tells us? I just hope that people can find something that works for them and so wish to impart what worked for me.



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babybemine
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | babybemine
Not down with Controlled Crying
Article I recently found re: CC

http://naturalchildhood.blogspot.com/2007/01/con-of-controlled-crying.html


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babybemine
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | babybemine
Not down with Controlled Crying
Most likely you wouldn't like going into work tomorrow and finding all your things had been taken off and out of your desk and moved to some other location?  Standing at an empty desk wondering what happen to your belongings.  Most of us would feel a multitude of feelings that we would have to sort out and proceed, as an adult should.  It’s not accepted behavior not to tell someone what was happening or set up an expectation that some change was on the horizon.  Well, then why would you treat your most favorite person in the world that way? I can't believe how insensitive mommies are being toward there little ones!

It's not the babies fault mommy chose to rock and cuddle her to sleep every night and then flipped out one day deciding she didn't want to do it until they reached preteen age.  As far as getting your evenings back, it takes a plan, I agree, but it’s the tactic that I find so appalling.  Your totally crushing the trust with them when you decided one night out of the blue to abandon them.

I didn't hear any talk about setting an expectation or explanation about a new routine with their little one and then ease into the new routine over a few nights or week or more.  This would show respect for them and their feelings.  It took months or more creating your established routine or lack of it, at least give them some time with a new one, or creating one.  Yes, mommies & daddies have to be firm and consistent - that's a given with babies and toddlers.  However, firm doesn't equal being mean.  So here's the idea (assuming mommy's respectful & communicating with the little one normally), first have a good bedtime routine you stick to, like a bath, 2 books, cuddle time and then to bed.  Mommy may be sitting in the room with her/him.   Watch how long your sitting and are you quiet while in the room.  Any talking or communication with the young one only prolongs the waking time, so no talking.  A "shh" intermittently is all they need to hear to reassure them.  Give this some time for about two weeks.  (Keep in mind they say habits take 30 days to change, so it may take a little longer.)

The amount of time should shorten.  After the first couple of weeks or so try leaving without a word, but stay close to the bedroom, like brush your teeth, get ready for bed or put laundry away in the other room.  This may work with out much of a hitch.  An occasional shh may need to be employed, but now they know what it means.  This works well with older babies and young toddlers.  For toddlers, establish a routine or fine-tune the one you have going.  Then before bedtime routine starts, explain how the routine is going to change that night.  For example, "after bath and our 2 books tonight, mommy is going to sit with you until the night light goes out (or some other reference to a limited time) and then I'm going to go clean the kitchen (or visit with daddy or any activity that they would understand).  There will probably be some resistance, but stay firm and follow through with what you said.  Mommy knows the difference between a fussy, "I'm not getting my way cry" and the hysterical, "I can't cope cry" that can cause lasting trauma.   Take it a little slower with the second, but they will get there.

A good resource for routines, techniques and overall support is www.babywhisperer.com.  The message boards cover all sorts of issues to bring up baby happy, confident and self-reliant.

Hugs and love for all our favorite people!



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peachynowamum
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | peachynowamum
when my one gets angry
She hits herself and kicks out with her legs hoping to hit someone with them... and for four months old she has quite a powerful kick...


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michellei
4.54 (Excellent) | September 2006 | michellei
Controlled Crying
With Olivia I used controlled crying, although it was really hard to listen to her sobbing so hard and for so long.

Can you belive this came about because I was still rocking/holding her to go to sleep at 10/11 months old!!

I couldn't get anything done and I was so exhusted that something just had to give.
I started on a Friday night when I knew hubby would be home for the weekend and it took me about 2 hours to get her to sleep that first time (checking and comforting her at 5 mins, 10mins, 15 mins ect) and on Saturday night she went down with no problems.

Olivia is now a fantastic sleeper, in bed at 7:00 and usually up at 7:30/8:00 every day.


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      hrs2004
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | hrs2004
Controlled Crying

It is tough, isn't it, but in the grand scheme of things the crying lasts such a short time and the good sleeping habits can last a lifetime. I have found that Leala became such a good sleeper after this - whenever I stayed in with her, she would wake more frequently and want comforting. If she went to sleep on her own, she would sleep longer.

Glad Olivia is now doing so well!



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mrslunar
2.68 (Average) | April 2006 | mrslunar
controlled crying?
I personally find this advice quite misguided. If your child is harmed through your actions, it's abuse. I don't think it's appropriate to recomend to parents that letting their child rage and hurt themselves is "what worked for us".


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      hrs2004
4.20 (Good) | April 2006 | hrs2004
Re: controlled crying?
Thanks for your comment. If it helps to clarify things, Leala has an occasional habit of banging her head if things don't go her way. She will hit the floor, or maybe the highchair. The only way that I can deal with this is to ignore it, or else she will realise that this behaviour gets results and therefore is worth continuing with. If I pick her up and cuddle her, she will do it more and more, so I have to ignore it and so the frequence is now getting less and less.
With regards to trying to prevent a child "rage", I would suggest that this is impossible in order to protect them. If she wanted to run in the road, I wouldn't let her. If she got angry, I still wouldn't let her. I would imagine that in life there are many things that will cause her to get very angry, especially now that she is two! My strategy for dealing with tantrums is that recommended by the childcare experts I have read about - I ignore it. I wait until she has calmed down and reason with her. Of course I make sure that she is in a safe environment (and in the case of this article, I would suggest that her cot would be considered one of the safest).
May I respectfully suggest that if you have another strategy which has worked for you, you publish it and link to this one in order for people to see which they relate to?


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           rachelcook
3.67 (Good) | April 2006 | rachelcook
Re: controlled crying?
Sometimes it's hard for everyone to realize the habits of your child...mine likes to smack his face when he is trying to prove a point...i don't think it would have anything to do with abuse, other than to himself. It's just his way of show his anger. Definitely separate from controlled crying...http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1963899.stm


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           ClayCook
4.50 (Excellent) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Re: controlled crying?
great response - i like your thinking.


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                ClayCook
4.44 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Re: controlled crying?
i also loved the article and agree with controlled crying.


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      ClayCook
4.28 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Re: controlled crying?
I am not sure what you are referring to?

I can not see where this article is suggesting letting a child rage and hurt themself?

Personally I think the article is great.


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      peachynowamum
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | peachynowamum
controlled crying?

yeah right I dont know what you think abuse is but as a parent you can only do so much to protect your child... You can not stop them from hurting themselves and besides they know exactly what they are doing..They are NOT STUPID!!!! Also according to the author of this article she still checked up on her daughter periodically... which is far from abuse....

Plus if you continue to give in then you only feed their behaviour... They learn realy quickly if I do this then mummy will do that... they learn at a young age how to manipulate mummy and unless it is nipped in the bud early they will continue to throw tantrums to get what they want when they are older...

I think this is realy sound advice not to mention medical professionals are forever telling us about the benefits of controlled crying too... It is not just the experience of one women and her child here it is the experience of billions...

 



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ClayCook
4.19 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
great photo
great photo - poor dad - smelly feet in his face :)


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katiepiatt
4.52 (Excellent) | April 2006 | katiepiatt
I know what you mean...
It took me ages to get the nerve to do controlled crying properly with my first boy - but having been thorugh it once - and knowing it worked - I did it much more quickly with son number 2, and despite the agony at the time, I'm now so glad that I did!


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npatrick
4.23 (Good) | April 2006 | npatrick
Never an easy ride!
We went through a similar experience, and while the crying tears at your heart, it worked out much better for us in the long run. She sleeps through the night, and we don't get up on the morning completly out of it...


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mammyrebs
4.54 (Excellent) | April 2006 | mammyrebs
It must have been awful for you
I can't say this has worked for me yet but it sounds like really sound advice, i am trying not to pander to him every time he crys for attention, but it is really easy for your heart to break when you hear them cry so you go and pick them up and cuddle them, but as you say go as you mean to go on at night or they'll expect you to stay with them and hold them while they sleep (which isn't possible or healthy) so good advice i hope i can follow it
(rhys is 7weeks old)


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      rachelcook
4.56 (Excellent) | April 2006 | rachelcook
Re: It must have been awful for you
really heartfelt. it's awesome to see the result at the end of perserverence. It is gut wrenching to start with, I agree, but they know that you love them to bits, it's just that they need to know that sleep is important and mom means business. having experienced the benefits too, the hard work to start with pays off and its great to be reminded of this. I am sure it's just preparation for when we, as parents are faced with having to be firm and go through the same process, just different scenarios when they get older, ie. curfews, rules, chores etc!


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      ClayCook
4.15 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Re: It must have been awful for you
I found using a watch to be a good idea. it makes you aware of how long you really have waited. Rachel (my wife) used to want to go back in after just 60 seconds, because it felt like 10 minutes due to the crying.


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ClayCook
3.75 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
I couldn't agree more
100% agree with the controlled crying. Babies/toddlers love routine :)

3 days of a little crying, and then bliss for life (fingers crossed)...


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