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Dealing with epilepsy

MumKim by MumKim Young Parent(September 2006) (rank 12th)

Dealing with epilepsy

While 2 or more seizures are required for a diagnosis of epilepsy (also known as a seizure disorder) according to the Mayo Clinic one in ten people will experience a seizure at some time in their life. According to Epilepsy Australia, epilepsy directly affects about

400 000 Australians.

You or your child may have a friend that has epilepsy and it can be scary seeing your first seizure but it is less so if you know what to do. Don’t let a fear of not knowing what to do stop you or your child from enjoying the company of a person with a seizure disorder. If one of your children’s friends has epilepsy and your child wants to invite them over then talk to the child’s parent and ask “what do I do if Johnny has a seizure?”

SEIZURE – FIRST AID

Epilepsy Australia has a free seizure first aid poster you can print from the internet at http://www.epilepsy.org.au/home/headline/files/web2/getontheteam/gt_index.asp

or call 1300 37 45 35 for an information pack.

I recommend viewing (and maybe printing out) the poster for more information but basically the recommendations from Epilepsy Australia for a tonic clonic seizure (grand mal) are

DO:

  • Remain calm
  • Stay with the person
  • Time the seizure
  • Protect from harm
  • Place something soft under their head
  • Loosen tight neckware
  • Roll onto their side – after jerking stops or immediately if vomited
  • Maintain privacy and dignity
  • Observe and reassure until recovered.

 

DO NOT:

  • Put anything in their mouth
  • Restrain them
  • Move person unless in danger
  • Apply CPR or EAR

(In the unlikely event resuscitation is necessary commence once jerking has stopped.)

 

CALL AN AMBULANCE IF:

  • You are in any doubt
  • The seizure occurs in water
  • You arrive after the seizure has started
  • Injury has occurred
  • Food, drink or vomiting in mouth during seizure
  • Jerking lasts longer than 5 minutes or longer than normal for that person
  • Another seizure follows quickly
  • A complex partial seizure lasts more than 15 minutes
  • The person has breathing difficulties after the jerking stops
  • The person has diabetes
  • The person is pregnant and is having a tonic clonic seizure
  • It is the first known seizure.

 

Our experiences with seizures in public-
I met and fell in love with an amazing man who has a seizure disorder.
One day my husband was alone and had a seizure in the driveway of the hospital carpark (we both worked at the hospital). One of the catering staff drove in and saw him on the ground. She panicked – parked her car and ran into the hospital to get help leaving him lying on the driveway! Luckily no one drove over him before help arrived.

Another time we were in Kmart in a quiet section near the self serve photo machines when he had a seizure. The people near us remained calm and asked if I needed any help. Initially I declined but then asked for help to ensure that he didn’t hurt himself by banging into the shelves. They helped by placing jackets etc between him and the shelves. A manager came along and quietly asked if we needed help. We had it under control so I declined. When Haydon came out of his seizure the people helping us returned to what they were doing leaving him with privacy.

If you see someone having a seizure and they have someone with them – ask that person if they need any help. If they decline then please don’t stay to watch. It’s hard enough having a seizure without coming to and finding an audience of spectators.

When my husband had a seizure I used to talk to him to reassure him during the seizure. He once told me that he can sometimes hear me during his seizures. It also helps me not to feel so useless.

EPILEPSY DOESN’T MEAN YOU HAVE TO WRAP A PERSON IN COTTON WOOL

My husband refuses to let his epilepsy stop him from doing things he want to do (except driving – he considers it unacceptable to put other people at risk).

Prior to surgery last year his epilepsy was rather severe. With medication his seizures were usually when he was sleeping but he had the occasional daytime seizure without warning.  When he had vomiting or diarrhea his medication did not get absorbed and he had to be hospitalized.

Despite his epilepsy he used to work in vertical rescue both in New Zealand and in the US (climbing cliffs etc to rescue people etc). After smashing his ankle in a climbing accident he had to give up rescue work so went to uni to become a nurse. I think one of the reasons he is such a good nurse is because he spent so much time in hospital as a child.

Last year a month after our wedding he had brain surgery to reduce his seizures. The surgery was more successful than we had dreamed to hope. So far he has been seizure free and when he has been seizure free for 12 months he will be eligible for a drivers license for the first time in his life at the age of 30.

SEE THE PERSON NOT JUST THE CONDITION

My husband objects to being labeled as an epileptic. He is much more than a disorder. He is a person first and foremost, he is a Kiwi, a husband, a son, a brother, a friend, an uncle, a nurse etc who just happens to have a seizure disorder.

 

 

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janicepovey
Friday | janicepovey
Re: Dealing with epilepsy

 Thanks for sharing your story with us and the advice you have given will help many people.

Hope your husband has his drivers license by now.

regards Janice



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Lauren125
Friday | Lauren125
Re: Dealing with epilepsy

I talked to my son during his seizures so I'm glad your husband can hear you.



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gosh3girls
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | gosh3girls
Good article - Thanks for the info.

Hi there,

My 7 year old daughter has just been diagnosed with a seizure disorder (Absence type) in October this year.  She doesn't have grand mal seizures  but  blanks out for seconds at a time and it was often thought she was daydreaming and being rude to people when they were trying to talk to her or ask her a question. 

Thankfully her very observant teacher mentioned to me that she was having trouble at school with her concentration and it often resulted in her behaviour suffering (because she had missed the instructions of what she was meant to do) which was frustrating at the time as we didn't know what was wrong.  We took her to the paediatrician for a check up and to ask mainly about the behavioural problems which were very much the same symptoms as ADHD.  Luckily the doctor asked the right questions and my daughter mentioned that she often sees colours in front of her eyes.  If she did not mention this to the doctor he would never have sent her for the EEG and discovered that she had the seizure disorder.

She is now medicated and the seizures have lessened although we have not quite found the correct level of medicine to stop them completely.  Hopefully the next blood test (which are not fun with a 7 year old LOL) will show that her blood/med levels are better.  There is alot of evidence to show that kids with this type of epilepsy will mostly grow out of it and have no side effects. 

Very happy for you mumtobekim and your husband that the surgery was so successful.  Isn't medical progress amazing?!

Cheers

gosh3girls



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      MumKim
December 2006 | MumKim
Good article - Thanks for the info.
You are welcome and yes I agree modern medicine is amazing. Part of my reason for sharing our story was to let people know that epilepsy doesn't have to stop a person from achieving their goals. Haydon likes to say that he will control his life and not let the epilepsy have control of him. Please encourage your daughter to continue to follow her dreams and not let epilepsy be an excuse/ reason for not doing so. It can be tough but she can be tougher!
cheers
Kim


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           gosh3girls
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | gosh3girls
Good article - Thanks for the info.

Thanks Kim,

Luckily my daughter is very outgoing and has taken this diagnosis in her stride.  She stood up in front of her class and told them all about epilepsy and how she is no different it is sometimes her brain signals get mixed up.  My paediatrician gave us lots of great info and books for her to read to her class.  It all helped alot.

Thanks for the great advice.

Stacey



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                MumKim
December 2006 | MumKim
Good article - Thanks for the info.
Glad to hear she is doing so well and handling the situation so well. Sounds like you have a great paediatrician too!


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JadieLady
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2006 | JadieLady
fantastic
a very informed advice :)


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michellei
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | michellei
epilepsy
I have never know any one with epilepsy and would not know what to do.
Thank you for providing this great article. I found that it explains things really well.



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      MumKim
September 2006 | MumKim
epilepsy
You're welcome. My goal in writing the article was to inform people and reduce the fear of not knowing what to do. A lack of knowledge of epilepsy can put some people off getting to know  people which I think is a shame. I recommend looking at the poster via the link. It gives more information and also tells what to do for other types of seizures.


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babybump1978
4.00 (Good) | September 2006 | babybump1978
epilepsy
My sister has had eegs none of which show epilepsy and numorous tests, but she continues to have siezures about one every two months. They only occur at night time/while she is sleeping, and she doesn't get dizzitness or anything at other times...can anyone relate to this? The docs are at a loss at to what is causing it- she is 15 years old, so could it be hormones?


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      gosh3girls
February 2007 | gosh3girls
epilepsy

Hi there,

Did they do a sleep eeg?  With my daughter they simulated all different situations and brought on a seizure.  Has she ever had a general anaesthetic?  Sounds like they have lots more research to do.  Sorry for all the questions.  There are so many different types of childhood epilepsy.  Hope she gets a good diagnosis soon so she can get on with treating the prob. 

Cheers



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mcm
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | mcm
Epilepsy
My sister had epilepsy, and though scary at times, we had a protocol of dealing with a seizure.
I also had friends with epilepsy, they had to take care but they were upfront and I think that helps


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Jessgore
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2006 | Jessgore
Dealing with epilepsy

My mother had epilepsy. I say had because she seems to have grown out of it and was able to ween herself off her medication before she feel pregnant with me.  She tells me sometimes it feels as if she may have a seizure, but some how manages to fight them off.. I have never seen her have one but have heard how they effected her when she was younger....

When my sister was finishing school she lived with me, and there were many a night when she would not be feeling well and would crawl into bed with me so I could keep an eye on her.. She felt comforted by the fact that I was there.  For years the doctors thought she had epilepsy but nothing could be found through all the tests and brain scans she has had... And she has had many. Finally they found that she has vasovagal syndrome, I am still not 100% up to date with all the infomation on this, but it has something to do with the heart. Her seizures are the same as epilepsy, and should be treated in the same way... As mumtobekim says,  if help is declined please don't stand around to watch. There is nothing my sister hated more then not knowing what happened to her when she came to and had all these people stairing at her....  And was most embarraced when she would sometimes come to and found that she had wet herself... This when you have onlookers is not very pleasent and most of all not at the age she was. She still has them but now she knows how they are triggered and can feel them coming she has better learnt to deal with them. If she feels them coming she'll go somewhere she feels she won't hit anything and if she can't fight it will just lie down on the floor and let it happen. They still scare her, but not as much as they used to....

Very good advice Mumtobekim.  Still sometimes it is hard to explain to onlookers their is nothing to see here please move along...



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      MumKim
September 2006 | MumKim
Dealing with epilepsy

Some people do grow out of epilepsy, especially during puberty, and some people get epilepsy as adults (usually the result of a head injury).
Loosing continence can be a difficult thing to deal with, especially in public. I used to work as a casual carer for a lady with epilepsy who lost continence.

People can be very curious. After Haydon's carpark seizure he had a black eye and a grazed face (for our trip to New Zealand). Lots of people (total strangers) asked what had happened. If I was with him I just looked them in the eye and said "He won't argue with me next time I am holding the frypan"



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