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Maggie's Night Nurses
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How we dealt with Baby #2

npatrick by npatrick Talking Back(April 2006) (rank 88th)

** Note this article was written several months ago. **

The first few months of Sophie's life were really tough for us - she wasn't sleeping, we weren't sleeping, and sleep is important! So, with Maggie's arrival, we knew that we couldn't just hope for the best as

far as sleep went. We were going to need help. Since both our families live hundreds of miles away, we would have to "outsource" it.

Betsy took the initiative, and found two nurses who could stay overnight and take care of Maggie. How? Did she use an outside service, one that prescreened candidates and made sure they were worthy of the job? No....she went through craigslist, that earthy-cunchy classified ads website better known for listing broken toasters and counterfeit Red Sox Tickets.

She waded through the responses and found someone who also had a friend who needed some extra hours. I don't know how Betsy did it, but we got really lucky with Marianna and Lesley. They take great care of Maggie and Sophie, and give us the chance to get a full nights sleep two (or three) times per week. They're not just night nurses, not just babysitters....I guess they're special members of Team Patrick working on Operation Maggs.

The best thing I have been able to do over the last several weeks is pop some Ambienand turn off the monitor, knowing that we have lefty Maggie in skilled hands. Marianna and Lesley are helpful not just at night, but also during the day. I suspect that they like taking care of Sophie, since it gives them an excuse to go on the boat into town and walk through Fanueil Hall.

To give you an idea of how much a party of our family they have become, they were the only two non-family member invited to Maggie's baptism. In addition, before one of Lesley's dates, she had the guy pick her up at our house - we had the opportunity to meet him before her own parents did. It was also a good chance for me to work on my "bad-boy sense" to weed out the rotten ones. I think I still need to work on it, since I didn't pick up any bad vibes with this one.

If you are looking for a night nurse, here are a few suggestions -

  1. Craigslist (as I mentioned above) - The downside is you have to wade through a lot of not so qualified people (we got a lot of non-english speakers).
  2. Sites like Sitter City - They have a form which sitters/nannies/night nurses fill out so you can narrow down your choices.
  3. Your personal network - Our night nurses went on to work for other people who used them after getting a recommendation from us.

The challenge is to set a time limit - we knew that we needed the help, but couldn't continue to afford it for more than a few months. Paying someone while you sleep isn't cheap!

** Addendum: We finished up with our night nurses about two months later (once Maggie was sleeping more than 3 hours at a time), and are still extremely glad we did it! **

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llmunchkin
July 2007 | llmunchkin
Re: How we dealt with Baby #2
Great advice, if you have the money, and you can find someone super special to make things run more smoothly in your household, then why not?  It certainly isn't 'cheating' as in the old days, families shared the care a lot more than they can now.  Time constraints, distance and other reasons hinder this, and I think you guys made a very practical decision, and you were so lucky to get these great girls.

PS - they are gorgeous - your wife is a lot more easy going than me - I think I'd be afraid of the competition!  LOL.


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mammyrebs
3.64 (Good) | April 2006 | mammyrebs
wouldn't be right for me
Sorry i wasn't logged on when i wrote this but this reply was from me.


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Anonymous Member
4.67 (Excellent) | April 2006 | anonymous  
wouldn't be right for me
This was a good idea for yourselves and some others out there i am trying to get my little one into a night routine myself (7wks old) but this wouldn't be something i would do as number one it's too expensive and i would rather spend that money on days out for baby and i and i really wouldn't feel comfortable letting a stranger look after my baby no matter how english or qualified they seem, lack of sleep is expected in the early days so i sleep when he sleeps and i go to bed early there are two good books that are helping me with the routine, practical parenting SLEEP by siobhan stirling and what to expect the first year by heidi murkoff, arleene eisenberg. at 7pm i dim lights and close curtains to tell them its night routine now!, now talking to them or eye contact make everything as boring as poss for them, 7.30pm change nappy, into night time clothes. 8pm last feed of night if he is normally unsettled and wakes up for food soon after then up the amount or leave him for longer on breast at night i give 5oz bottles during day and 1 6oz at 8pm to sattisfy him he drinks half i burp him and take other half to finish in bedroom if he falls asleep lightly tickle toes to wake slightly,always put to bed with their eyes slightly open so they know where they are falling to sleep as babies check every so often and if something is different to when they went to sleep this will worry them and they will wake and cry!!! put them down whisper a key phrase like night night time for sleep or ssssshhhhhhh or both and leave the room! if you have to go in try and settle without taking them out of the cot, he then wakes at 2/3am so i offer water as they may just be thirsty then back in cot he may wake at 4am if water doesn't sattisfy then give a feed (watch the signs) (hand in mouth smacking lips i'm hungry) then he sleeps untill 6.30am but i treat anything before 7.30 as night routine so i offer water or silently change nappy and put him back in cot then he wakes at 7.30ish open the curtains give them a kiss and a smile morning darling wht a good boy : )


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      npatrick
4.50 (Excellent) | April 2006 | npatrick
Re: wouldn't be right for me
Thanks for the comment!

It is much more difficult with two...especially when the older one is as active as Sophie was. She needed a lot of attention and activity to keep her out of trouble.

The other challenge for us was lack of local family. There was _no_ opportunity for a break, and when you're both exhausted, it cannot be good for anyone in the family!


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           mammyrebs
4.50 (Excellent) | April 2006 | mammyrebs
Re: wouldn't be right for me
I completley understand as it's the same for us we are living in london due to my husbands work and all our friends and family are at least 4hrs drive away so like yourselves we don't have a support network it's mainly myself that looks after him as my husband works all day and hasn't got to grips with the night time routine and what to do it's very difficult having a baby and very draining on your emotions at times when things don't go to plan or they don't give you time to eat sleep or fart!!


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                ClayCook
4.32 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Re: wouldn't be right for me
I know that this is something very small, but with our first (to give my wife a little extra sleep) I did the 10pm/11pm feed at night. This meant my wife could get to be around 9pm, and wouldnot have to wake until about 2am/3am.

Something small... but I am sure it helped... will be doing this again no doubt for baby number 2.

By the way... it also gave me an opportunity to do some work while my wife was in bed and I was waiting for bubs to wake up and scream for some milk :)


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                     npatrick
4.66 (Excellent) | April 2006 | npatrick
Re: wouldn't be right for me
We've tried it two ways -

1) One person gets 1st shift, the other person gets 2nd shift (similar to what you did)

2) One person gets day #1, the other person gets day #2

Either can work...we found that as the sleep pattern changed, it was better for us to rotate days rather than shifts - each parent was "guaranteed" a good night's sleep at least every other day!


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                          mammyrebs
4.25 (Good) | April 2006 | mammyrebs
Re: wouldn't be right for me
That might be worth a try in the future, what we tend to do at the mo is
i look after him during the night and day when hubby comes home at 4pm he takes over so i can get a few hours sleep and he also does the weekend so i can have a lay in, we just play it by ear if one of us is tired the other takes over


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                               ClayCook
4.19 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Re: wouldn't be right for me
Yes I let my wife have Sunday mornings to sleep in. She should sleep in for longer... but she starts to miss us and gets up after a little while! :)


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                                    mammyrebs
4.67 (Excellent) | April 2006 | mammyrebs
Re: wouldn't be right for me
he he he so it's not just me then, i do that to as soon as i hear him cry i have to get up and give them both a cuddle (come to think of it no wonder i'm so tired!)


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      ClayCook
4.00 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Re: wouldn't be right for me
Mammyrebs: Is that 1 or 3 paragraphs ;)


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           mammyrebs
4.44 (Good) | April 2006 | mammyrebs
Re: wouldn't be right for me
you try giving birth 7weeks ago and having mastitus see how good your paragraphs,spelling and grammar is ! ; ) oh i tell ya people are so picky


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                ClayCook
4.64 (Excellent) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Re: wouldn't be right for me
good point mammyrebs - i take it all back :)


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ClayCook
4.08 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Privacy
Sounds great.

Question: Did you feel as though you had less privacy with people living in your house?


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      npatrick
4.53 (Excellent) | April 2006 | npatrick
Re: Privacy
Thanks for the comment - we had an extra room, and they stayed only during the overnight. I think it's a situation where you should feel comfortable with someone staying overnight! :)


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           ClayCook
4.27 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Re: Privacy
ah ha - that makes sense. i think we could be comfortable with that. thanks for the info.


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rachelcook
4.74 (Excellent) | April 2006 | rachelcook
hadn't thought of this before
You have given me a lot to think about. Such benefits for the whole family. I do have one question, at night did they take turns to feed maggie? It would be great to get an idea of some of the things they did during the day as well, was it just primarily caring for Maggie and Sophie or did they also help around the house?

Thanks, much appreciated. I am really going to consider this :)


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      npatrick
4.52 (Excellent) | April 2006 | npatrick
Re: hadn't thought of this before
We just used them as babysitters during the day (and paid them a lower rate) - they didn't do any other work than to get Sophie out of the house during the day (which was needed!) and spend some "quality" time with her.


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           ClayCook
4.33 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Re: hadn't thought of this before
Just so I fully understand... So when Sophie was sleeping during the day? What did they do then?

Or were they out with Sophie all day long? I am a little confused :P


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                npatrick
4.23 (Good) | April 2006 | npatrick
Re: hadn't thought of this before
Sorry to be unclear - During the day Sophie (the older one) needed to get out and play, go to the park, the museum, etc. With two, it was rough on Betsy (especially with some PPD). Having an extra set of hands to take one of the kids during the day was very helpful.


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                     ClayCook
3.79 (Good) | April 2006 | ClayCook
Re: hadn't thought of this before
I get it now - sounds like it could work for us :)
Thanks again...


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