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Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

Kristen by Kristen Young Parent(October 2006) (rank 40th)

My friend Laura is quite the feminist.  She has worked hard in her job and has gone straight to the top.  When she was 30, she and her husband decided to have a child.  She got pregnant and had a beautiful baby girl, Maddie.  Laura always swore that

she was going to do whatever it took to make sure that her daughter didn't become a "girly girl" or find herself "pigeon-holed" by being a girl.  To combat this, she decided that she would only buy trucks and cars for Maddie to play with.  It seemed to work for a while but then one night Laura came into Maddie's room to check on her girl and found that Maddie had tucked her Tonka truck in beside her, taking care to make sure that the blanket was up nice and high so her dear truck wouldn't get cold.  The next day Laura went out and bought Maddie a doll.  Maddie kept playing with her trucks and cars but she was opened to a whole new world of being able to care and nurture her baby. 

So when I took Ethan to preschool, I was faced with a similar situation.  We have never really purchased a lot of toys for him so everything he plays with is a gift from someone else.  He loves to play with cars and trucks and blocks.  But when we got to his class, Ethan made a beeline directly for the baby dolls.  He picked one up so tenderly and gave it a hug.  I thought it was the sweetest thing.  And excellent preparation for the new baby on the way.  Then another little boy ran over and did the same thing.  His mother, however, was not as pleased.

"Oh, no, Junior.  That's for girls."  She looked at the teacher apologetically and said , "and I can't seem to keep him out of his sister's play kitchen set.  I try to tell him that the kitchen is for girls."  Ethan's preschool teacher made a joke about how she wished the kitchen was for girls because her three grown sons can cook up a storm but her daughter can't even boil water.

I almost hyperventilated at the thought of a kitchen being only for girls.  I instantly thought of my friend who told me that her 16 year old son still expects her to make him a snack when he comes home from school every day.  When this friend told me that, I asked if he had anything wrong with his hands.  I cannot even imagine any child asking me to make a snack at 16.  I'm trying to figure out now exactly how much longer until Ethan is self-sufficient.  I didn't bring it to this woman's attention that some of the most famous of chefs in the world are men and that if she played her cards right, she could have dinner on her table every night without ever having to lift a finger.  I wondered if her daughter was stuck cleaning the bathrooms and the dishes while her son would eventually only have to take out the trash as a chore.  I don't have a daughter, but I do know that my husband is messier than me in the bathroom.  And my son is learning fast.  As far as I am concerned, as soon as his little hand can operate a toilet brush, he has a new job. 

So why are we so concerned about our sons wearing our shoes?  If wearing women's shoes as a small child causes any sort of issue when a boy gets older, nearly every man in the world would now be a cross-dresser.   I don't know of one person whose mom doesn't tell a story about how they used to try to walk in Mom's shoes when they were little.  It doesn't seem to be as big a deal if our daughters are walking around in Dad's shoes.  And why do our sons try on our shoes, our clothes and carry around our purses when they are little?  Maybe because they are more colorful, shiny, fun and different from what they normally wear.  Little brothers like to wear what their big sisters are wearing sometimes too.  Ethan wears Dad's shoes too, but who wants to clomp around in those 10 pound boots when you can try to balance your foot on a shoe with a tiny little heel?  Now that's a challenge.  Let's be honest.  For all those of us who have been forced to wear high heels for years--once the novelty wears off they are a pain in the calf. 

By making a big deal out of what is proper for a boy and what is proper for a girl, we just might be stifling our children's willingness to explore and learn by trying new things.

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XanderPander
Saturday | XanderPander
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

I have a 2 year old boy who owns baby dolls, an is getting play food and dishes for Christmas. I totally agree that children should  have ample opportunities when playing, as this is how they learn. Do we really want our boys learning that men don't cook or clean? Do we really want our girls learning that they are expected to live in a kitchen and that sports are for boys?

How are we changing the course of their lives by denying them opportunities because of some long outdated social "rule" or expectation? We need to let our children learn about the world, all of it. We also need to let them become who they are destined to be, not to become what we want them to be.

The whole blue and pink concept is outdated and silly . Let kids be kids, without forcing them to fit into a specific gender role.

 



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Cherylm
October 15th | Cherylm
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

Great article, except were you get to the high heels at the price of shoes these days both my kids were/are banned from wearing my shoes as they get destroyed.LOL. Once again GREAT ARTICLE...... 



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jossilynmason
October 15th | jossilynmason
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

I enjoyed reading your article. And i agree with you. Let your son or daughter get it all out of them. We as parents will just love it and think its cute and sooo adorible. My son loves to play with some of my old babbie dolls and drag his feet in my shouse, cuz there big and fun! He loves to watch and act like mommy or daddy, so why not get them ready for when they really have to play grown up. And we all know we will love are son or daughter even if they love the same sex.  



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nabutters
June 27th | nabutters
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

i loved reading this article and i agree with it 110%!!

thank u for sharing...cheers naomi



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The-Single-Parent-Bible
May 2008 | The-Single-Parent-Bible
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

My son is now 6 and has dolls, sometimes wears rings and dances like a diva, on the flipside, he plays football, thinks passing wind is hysterical and wrestles anything in site.  It's healthy to encourage our children to explore and play with all sorts of toys - it helps to shape them into well rounded, emotionally healthy adults.



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Sublimeamiga
April 2008 | Sublimeamiga
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

Thank you for posting this. I am writing a paper for Psychology and our assignment was just to go to a toy store and write down what the toys looked like for each gender. It said to be sure to look at the wrapping and the colors. Well, I decided to google search what other people thought about toys being genderized.  It's funny how women are trained from infancy to be housewives and men are trained to be tough and have authority. Well, I am glad there are other people out there that think the same thoughts I have.



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Jenniem0922
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2008 | Jenniem0922
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

I am a female I have 4 brothers and 1 sister and I had more girl stuff than you could even imagine I was such a girly girl but I absolutely loved to play hot wheels cars,baseball and   he-man with my younger brother and he played house and barbie's with me almost everyday and I am married to a man and I have 3 children and my brother is married to a woman and they have 1 son in fact all of my brothers are in relationships with woman except for 1 but he is single and he is also only 19.

This brings me to another point I have 2 girls and 1 boy,  My son is the youngest at 2 1/2 now having 2 older sister's of course he is going to play with girl toys and I have some girly girls hence alot of girly toys.   My husband tried to tell me that because our son is a boy he should play with boy toys well I was standing my ground and so was he until one day about 8 months ago my husband took a Barbie doll away from our son and told him it was for girls our son started to cry he looked at my husband with tears streaming down his little face and said PLEASE DADDY well  you could see my husband just melt he handed him back the doll and hasn't made a very big deal about it since, Oh every once in a while he will tell him that's a girl toy but he hasn't taking any girl toys away from him again he even let me buy our son a little baby doll for Christmas because both of our girls were getting one and he would have been upset if he hadn't. So as much as I would like to say it was a victory on my side it was really a victory for our son because his favorite thing to do is to play house and dolls with his sisters and they couldn't be happier to have him.



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Ravenheart
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | Ravenheart
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

this is really great! and was good to read. i agree with you 100%

xoxox



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cassaustin
February 2008 | cassaustin
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

What a great article! My little man is only 6 months old, but he will grow up playing with whatever he wants to! His cousin (a girl) is only 4 1/2 months older than him and i cant wait to see what the 2 of them get up to when they are a bit older! I have on 2 occasions had to dress him in her clothes too. I dont care that they are pink, as long as my son is comfortable and warm. True, i wouldn't intentionally take him out wearing girls clothes, but if i had nothing else (like i have on these 2 occations) then i dont mind.

I just have to add too, my step brother was one of the lead rolls in the rocky horror picture show when he was in high school. As a result of this, he can still walk better in stilletos than i can!!! LOL



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      Dionire
April 2008 | Dionire
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

lol men nowdays KNOWINGLY go out wearing pink and purple shirts, if a baby needs clothes to wear it doesn't matter what colour they are :)

nice post :)



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winja
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | winja
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

well il add a story here seeing as i will let both my children play with whatever they wish within reason regardless of gender.

i recently spoke to a women 8 weeks preg who ahd bought cot sheets... she took them home to see a yellow giraffe on the white cot sheets and that the label said GIRLS cot sheet set, she took them back because she is "pretty sure" shes having a boy!

i thought this was insane and told her that if all the "boys" cot sheets or blankets are in the wash i use my daughters old ones and dotn care if they are pink...my 9 week old son doesnt seem to have a probelm with this either!

i dont take him out wearing girls clothes but i think some ppl take gender colours waaaay to seriously!

great topic btw and very well written article!



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whome
February 2008 | whome
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

Lol my son once dressed in his sisters clothes, put my makeup on then knocked at the door, asking if himself was coming out to play? lol i just laughed it of hes 25 now and i still remind himxxxshar



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boredmum
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | boredmum
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

Great article. When my son was little he played with dolls as well as his cars & trucks,he also played with my make up & high heels. He wouldn't go out of the house without moisturizer & lip gloss(too much female influence in his life I think!) He has grown out of it now but a few months ago he came out with my bra on! My daughter will have dolls but also have cars & trucks.

There is no such thing as boy or girl toys,they are just kids toys.

Well done,excellent advice.



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      MissKelly
February 2008 | MissKelly
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

My sons liked to play beauty shop and do my hair and apply my make up for me.

I once had to go out in my new hairdo and makeup that they had styled just for me. I was a vision of lovelyness but my sons were proud. they were almost 3 and almost 4 then.



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Arna
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | Arna
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?
I think that there are still too many parents out there who stereotype toys for their kids.  Our girls, given the choice between cars and dolls, will combine the 2.  They actually have a lot of cars and love them.  Their toy room is a wooden floor and they love the sound.  We just buy what looks good and safe and what we think they will like.  Willow will be getting a play tool set as she loves fixing things!


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etcircus
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | etcircus
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

Oh sorry here is the other side of the argument: when teaching a dance/drama class in a childcare centre, there was a 4 year old boy whose Dad dropped him off at daycare each time...in a frilly dress (the boy wore the dress, not the Dad haha). I noticed that the other children avoided him and the group leaders spoke to him with a harsher tone of voice than they did when speaking to other children. I was only the casual observer as he wasn't in my dance class but the Group Leader told me to 'pretend not to notice he's wearing a dress, the parents want it that way' without me even asking about it. It is hard to tell if the children avoided him and if the group leaders were harsh with him because he was in a dress or if the dress wearing was a result of him refusing to wear anything else (btw it was the same dress every day- washed and cleaned). 



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      taniagirly
3.00 (Average) | October 2007 | taniagirly
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?
Hehe that's quite cute, his poor father though - my hubby would die if he had to drop Bryn off in a dress! I agree with you about being overly knowledgeable on typical 'man stuff' - I'm the same. I have always had a tool box and known how to use them (fixing cars is a stretch though). When I met my husband he was useless with fixing things around the house so he appreciated my knowledge. I asked to borrow a large drill bit off his father for a door handle I was putting in and he offered to help me. Big mistake - the door was a mess when he finished with it! Maybe that is the trick - each person brings something into a relationship that the other doesn't have :)


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      MissKelly
February 2008 | MissKelly
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

OMG, We had the same thing once in our childcare center. The boy was brought into the center wearing girls clothes and hair that flowed down his back and he was 4. He had a name that could be considered a boys name or girls name. (I don;t wish to repeat the name just incase I offend someone)

The mother told us straight off that he was a boy but we were to treat him like there was nothing different. We said of course we would and we would have even if she had said nothing.

The other children in class picked up immedeatly that there was something not right to them. We introduced him only with his name as we would anyone else and he was in a girls dress and had the longest hair in the class. But within an hour the first child asked him if he was a boy or a girl. The little boy would not answer and we direscted everyone to play in other eareas and switch. Before long another child asked the boy the same thing. This went on and on and we were forced not to answer when the children came to the teachers and asked if he was a boy girl. I just said he was a new friend and everyone should make him feel welcomed and play nicely. Or a few times I said he is shy and apparently does not want to answer your questions.

The first thing the mother said when she returned to pick him up was, how did the other chidlren respond to him and did anyone ask if he was a boy or girl. They never returned to our center. The odd thing was that it was almost like a hidden camera show to see how we would respond to this unsual day. The mother was only interested in this one thing and not how his day went or was he happy. And no explanation was givien to why he was dressed that way. Was it his liking or was it hers?

The boy is now in piblic grade school and I have seen him many times and his hair is still long but wears clothes that could be girl or boy but never dresses to school. I think using the restrooms was a probelm for the school and they had to ask he not wear dresses so the other children would not freak out when seeing a girl in the boy's restroom. Or at least that is what I was told by someone. He also has a younger brother who I have seen and he also has very long hair but does not wear dresses when I have seen them.

I just had to share this story (I have others like that, like the girl who wanted to be called a boy and the boy who had to have his mother's slip everyday and the boy who ONLY played with barbies and would tell everyone that)

I think it sad that the other children did look at this child as odd and in the same turn they ALL play with girl like things and boy like things but something about not dressing your part is not acceptable to  even the very young.



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etcircus
4.63 (Excellent) | October 2007 | etcircus
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

Here are some interesting experiences I have had to do with what boys and girls should and shouldn't do and my response:

  • Some parents think Gymnastics is just for girls. The first medal Australia ever won in gymnastics was won by a man- who did a segment on a television show being put up against other male athletes from other 'manly' sports and BEAT THEM IN EVERY PHYSICAL CHALLENGE!
  • I heard a radio announcer getting upset that someone had bought his 5 year old son a hula hoop for his birthday. I perform a circus act with hula hoops and take them with me to children's parties. Little boys love them just as much as little girls, they do tend to play with them differently though.
  • I was told once that the reason I am not married is because I 'am too capable at things that only boys should do' (eg. martial arts, fixing cars, playing with tools etc) I believe it is important to be independant and it is my personal choice to stimulate my brain however I choose, the right guy will understand.

These are just a few examples of some of the 'crazy talk' haha that goes on in the world on occasion. The rules and limits tend to be more on what boys 'should or shouldn't do'. Girls usually (except for the odd occasion such as what I experienced) seem to be encouraged to play with whatever they want. The good thing, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN when people try and force these rules onto you and Ethan! Keep doing what makes your him happy. I'm glad you and all of the responses you have recieved show such a healthy attitude.

Tanya :)



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taniagirly
3.00 (Average) | August 2007 | taniagirly
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?
Just had another thought about gender stereotyping - how many of you would put your sons in pink dresses and paint their rooms pink?...... not me - funny that we still draw the line on some things!


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      kseers
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | kseers
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?
well maybe not.....  he might object!  His friends have already told him what is girly and what is not - a shame - he used to love pink! 


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taniagirly
August 2007 | taniagirly
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?
Just had another thought about gender stereotyping - how many of you would put your sons in pink dresses and paint there rooms pink?...... not me - funny that we still draw the line on some things!


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taniagirly
3.00 (Average) | August 2007 | taniagirly
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?

Great article!  Obviously something we feel strongly on if you look at all the comments below.  I think fathers are usually the ones to encourage gender stereotyping.  At first I had decided that the majority of men were complete and utter homophobes and that this was the cause, but on further thinking I have realised that this is not the case.  I think it is the pressure from society that has caused them to be this way.  If my husband read this he would freak but I've had an interesting time with him:

When we first met my son Bryn was 1 year old and was playing with a barbie doll - that went down like a lead balloon and when we moved to Bahrain I noticed that all the toys my husband had bought for him were very much boys toys.  Trucks, cars, etc.  My son was not interested at all!!! Gradually over the years I have managed to sneak a few less 'boyish' toys in to the mix though.  I have also managed to get my husband to endure a manicure and pedicure (it was a suprise visit to the salon of course). The other night I even got him to do some bellydancing with me (I'm learning bellydancing by dvd).  The funny thing is that he doesn't actually mind the girly stuff, he's actually more worried about what people will think!

When Bryn was a toddler he loved to play with toy animals - slowly his personality has evolved and he has been through stages with all different toys.  He has ended up with an obsession with spiderman and other related characters.  We have not pushed him in this direction - I have let him choose what he likes.  I explained to my husband that we need to nurture his gentle side and let him have the kitchen play sets, the dolls etc - so now he has a baby brother he is very gentle with him and knows how to care for a baby.  My husband couldn't deny that the dolls have contributed to this.  He wasn't quite as impressed when Bryn put my makeup on, and he has to hold his tongue when Bryn wears my high heels.... Smalls steps though, we'll get there eventually.  Maybe it is because I have two boys and no girls though......



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Libby24
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | Libby24
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?
some of my sons favourite things are charlie's barbie's and her "babies" as well as his cars as with my daughter she loves Alex's cars and transformers. They both love mummy and daddy's shoes and i quite often play dress ups with them and put make up on and nail polish. i believe that kids are kids and should play and have fun, not be told that they are a boy and boys should have this and not that and like wise with girls.


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4.75 (Excellent) | July 2007 | mewannaboy
Re: Gender appropriate toys: Is it a big deal for your son to play with a baby doll?
sons playing with dolls and prams ,girls playing with trucks and guns thats my life.I dont think at a young age that a child should get anything sterotypical.Its a world of exploration and joy and all the kids are seeing is something fun to play with.Does a boy think "oh mum i really should be playing with spiderman" i doubt it.My son played with prams and i believed it will make him a good father figure.He is so good with my best freinds 3 year old son ,my daughters who wanted so much to play with their brother would often be out in the dirt playing match box cars.No one will be hurt or changed by a bit of role reversal.I found that when my daughter went to a playgroup where i live now that they were all for any gender child chosing whatever they had fun with...my daughter would much rather have on a blue hat than a pink one too so its all just a part of life.


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