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Head Lice...how do get rid and stay rid of them!

Aidansmom07 by Aidansmom07 Talking(November 2006) (rank 153rd)
How do you get rid of it? tried many things to no avail. would like any advice.

What's the one thing that at the mere mention of it makes us scratch our heads? That's right folks…head lice.  Nasty rotten little bugs that lay eggs, many eggs that

will just continue to hatch until you get rid of every last one.  Keep in mind that it is something that can happen to any child/family no matter what their status, so try not to be too embarrassed by it. They say that head lice actually prefer clean hair. Not that people with dirty hair don’t get head lice too, but I guess the lice don’t like to stay there long so they jump (they can’t fly) onto clean hair. Unfortunately for me, due to my job, and especially my newest job as well as past experiences I have come to know a lot about this subject. 

WHAT TO LOOK FOR; when they send that horrible letter home from school saying that a kid in the class has had it and to be on the look out….

There are two things, the nits (otherwise known as their eggs) and then there are the actually lice bug themselves. The bugs are whitish in colour, sometimes with a black spot on them. They are quite small, and can be hard to see, especially in fair coloured hair.  They seem to like to hang out in the hair at the base of the neck, behind the ears and around the crown of the head (especially in girls hair, ones who have ponytails, etc.). You probably will not see a lot of actual bugs if you catch it early, but you have to keep a close eye out for the Nits.  They are even smaller little white coloured balls that stick to the root of the hair.  You can tell the difference between them and just a flake of skin or a piece of fuzz because when you flick at them they will not move.  You literally have to pull them out with your fingernails all the way down the strand of hair to get them out. 


 There are three very important keys too getting rid of these nasty little beasts:

The shampoo 2) ditch the nits and 3) clean, clean, clean and more cleaning!!!

Shampoo

So you go to your pharmacy and get yourself a decent kind of shampoo, there are many on the market but talk to your pharmacist and let them recommend one, even if it’s the more expensive one that they recommend to you, listen to them, they hear about this a lot.  With whatever shampoo you end up buying it usually comes with a silly little comb (or the pharmacist may show you some other ones you can buy separate).  They are pretty much useless as far as getting rid of the nits, even though that’s what they claim to do.  But they can help comb out any dead bugs from after you shampoo.

As I explained earlier you have to go through the hair strand by strand almost, and “pick and flick”.  Flick at anything you see that looks like it doesn’t belong there.  And anything that sticks to the root pull it out and get rid of it because that…is a nit.  It’s unfortunate to tell you that this process can take hours just for one child.

If you have tried the shampoos and they just aren’t working you can always try this method. It involves mixing half a cup of vinager with a half cup of mineral oil. The vinager is supposed to kill the headlice themselves and the mineral oil makes the hair greasy, which helps to pull the nits out.  Saturate the head in the entire mixture using a spray bottle works best for application.  ***Be aware the two don’t exactly mix, they separate in the container, I believe the vinegar ends up on the top and thereby goes on first then the mineral oil.  Put a shower cap on their head and let it sit for an hour before rinsing it out.  If you don’t have a shower cap, Plastic Wrap wrapped around the head will work too. Then you can pick through the hair before and after shampooing out the oil and vinegar (as well as use the silly little comb too).

 

Ditch the Nits

As explained earlier, it is imperative that you get rid of every single nit on all of your children’s heads. Follow the directions in the above section (shampoo) to make sure you get each and every nit. If you follow all of these steps and are confident that you have gotten rid of everything, then there should be no need for a second application of shampoo a week later as recommended.  However, if it makes you feel better to do the second application, then by all means do it.  Better safe than sorry!

 

Clean, Clean, Clean

But while you are waiting for the shampoo to sit on your child’s head (it’s anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour before you are allowed to rinse them out) that’s when you can get started on your cleaning process because it also can be an extremely long process.  There are several ways to get rid of lice within your house to prevent them from infesting the whole family as well as outside people that your children have regular contact with. 

Your first option is the dryer. Anything that can go in the dryer on high heat for at least 20 minutes without being damaged, especially things that you will need quickly, jackets, bedding along with the actual pillows, and maybe a favourite stuffed animal that they just can’t live without for 2 weeks.

Your second option is to Bag it.  Anything like stuffed animals or plush items of any kind (even if your child hasn’t recently played with them but they are out in their bedrooms). You would need to put them in garbage bags and tie them up tight and let them sit for 2 weeks, do NOT take them out early, unless you absolutely need to and you are able to put it in the dryer immediately.

The third way is to vacuum, anything that can be vacuumed, such as all carpets in the house, the couches and couch cushions, and even your vehicles, all the seats…seriously I know it sounds extreme but those little things they can end up anywhere.

***Also keep in mind that it is not necessary to scrub your entire house, as long as you get the carpets, the clothing, and anything plush.  (Don’t forget to do such places as the padding on your dining room chairs with your vacuum (if you have padding, wood is fine as it is).

Prevention of head lice
Mom’s who have daughters with long hair, you do not need to cut her hair but try to always keep it tied up while at school.  At least in a braid, if not a bun of some sort is your best bet.  If you are not opposed to using hairspray then use it (if she is older and doesn’t have baby fine hair still) as it helps because again, they don’t like “dirty hair”.  Your other option is to use tea tree oil once a week.  Pour out your regular amount of shampoo, then pour a small amount of tea tree oil on top of the shampoo in your hand and continue to clean and condition your head as normal.  Do NOT pour a bottle of tea tree oil into a shampoo bottle, as the two will break each other down over time.  You should be able to get tea tree oil over the counter at your local pharmacy or health store.  Here in Canada it will cost you anywhere from 12 to 18 dollars per bottle.  But don’t worry, the bottle of tea tree oil will last for several bottles of shampoo at least.

I hope this is helpful to anyone who needs help with the dreaded head lice, and if you have anymore questions by all means ask. If I don’t know the answer, I more than likely can find it out.

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fruitsalad
December 2007 | fruitsalad
Re: Head Lice...how do get rid and stay rid of them!

Here in Australia children are no longer asked to stay home from school if they have nits( as they cary no comunicable disease it is considered a violation of the childs rights to deny them schooling, go figure) , thus the infection rate is epidemic. The constant use of chemicals is just not an opiton, and the majority of the little pests are resistant anyway. The recomended course of treatment is to fill the hair with cheap conditioner and comb through with a metal nit comb every second day for ten days. This actually works, but only in school holidays when they are not in contact with other students whose parents are not so dilligent.

I highly recomend the use of a daily tea-tree, spritz but also add lavender, pepermint and rose-geranium oil (about 3 drops of each in 500ml water shaken before each use), and keep the hair tied back in plaits or braids.
As for  removing them in the first place, I found coconut oil is far more efective than any other product at removing eggs. Pure coconut oil (I buy mine at an indian grocer) is rubbed liberally into the hair, and left for at least half an hour, if i find them in the morning I put it in before plaiting the hair for school. Then comb out with a metal nit comb, adding more oil to keep it sliding easily. Something in the oil seams to disolve the nits glue and they come out easily. To remove the oil first work a liberal amount of mild shampoo into hair before adding water to wash normaly.



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DarkenedAngel
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | DarkenedAngel
Re: Head Lice...how do get rid and stay rid of them!

Umm...  Sorry to discredit anything, as I can see you have put in a huge amount of effort here and I applaud you for that. Buuuuuuuut....

1. Lice don't jump. They can only crawl and use strands of hair to swing like little jungle vines.

2. Shampoo? I assume you mean the headlice shampoos that are supposed to kill the lice and nits? I personally am dead set against the idea of putting a toxic chemical insecticide (which is what these things are) in my own hair, let alone a child's hair. The conditioner and comb method is actually far more effective and less harmful. Just be aware that lice are actually becoming very resistant to these chemical solutions so they are getting very ineffective. Not to mention that most of the info about head lice comes from the companies that produce the toxic shampoos and treatments, and as they want to sell their product, they will state that their method is the only way to get rid of the lice... and many of those companies also produce teetree oil. Any brand of moose, gel, or vasaline brushed through the hair is more effective. But if you like the smell of teetree oil, go for your life and use it.

3. Clean clean clean??? Why make such a huge effort for something that can only survive whilst on the human head? Get them off your head and they don't take too long to die.

However, what you have written about headlice prevention and tying up hair and using hair spray - that does work very effectively. Not because the lice don't like the hairspray so much, but because the strands aren't blowing around and meeting up with other people's heads that do have lice, thus you are taking away their little swinging vines and main method of transportation.

I hope you aren't upset with me for this, but I'm hoping you might look further into this and edit your advice according to new findings, as you have done a brilliant job and I must say this... If your advice was about fleas, you'd be just about spot on!



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Leigh86
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | Leigh86
Re: Head Lice...how do get rid and stay rid of them!
gr8 advive will b keepin in mind


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blackwidowkate
4.80 (Excellent) | February 2007 | blackwidowkate
A new link to a product
Hi
I found a new cool product.....
for  nits
Luv Deb


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Raine
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Raine
Head Lice
Great article.

I wonder if shampoos with tea tree oil already in them (ingredient at store purchase) will work also as a preventative? Your idea of adding it to the shampoo while in your hand is an excellent. I've always simply rubbed a small amount of oil behind each of my grandkids ears & along their necks & it seems to work.


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mummyto4ferals
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mummyto4ferals
ewwww nits

I hate these little baggers. Where my kids go to school it is riddled with them. I use to shave both boys hair as I didn't want them getting nits. but now Jesse my 10 yr old is getting to the age where he is tacking an interest in how he looks and dose not want it shaved any more. Well last yr he had head lice that many times is was not funny.  The chemical shampoos do not work any more ( as they r still alive when I comb them out) I have been up to the front office and complained that he was coming home every couple months with them but all I got was there is nothing we can do.  My kids have been to a few different schools now but this current school is shocking for nits. I think every class at start of term and end of term should get a couple of parents in and do head checks. I know that it wont eliminate the head lice but surely it will decrease there numbers as I am so tired of my sons coming home just shortly after we got ride of them with nits yet again.



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giftid3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | giftid3
The plague of hair

In the 60's and 70's the product used then was DDT and came in a small brown bottle and stunk to high heaven.  After my mother dosed us all, she would sit us on the floor in front of her and she would go through every strand until our heads were clean.  It would take hours and as kids we would get restless but she would not let up until she had finished.  When I became a mother, my children also became afflicted especially my son who had long curly locks.  You know the kind of hair women pay heaps for to get.  I dreaded having to cut his hair so I would sit him down and go through it strand by strand.  I did use the commercial products as well but I also knew that most of them would work only once and then the lice would become immune and so the tedious job of pulling them out was the new order of business.  The sunlight is the best light to use.  Nits close to the scalp are newly hatched.  The further along the hair the nits are the longer the infestation has been.  White nits are dead nits or 'hatched'.  The lighter coloured lice or kutus as we call them (NZ) are young and the bigger fatter ones are the layers big time.  Killing them is the only way to be rid of them.  You must be careful though because they do jump and if you don't kill it by clicking between thumb nails then they will find a new victim.  A friend shared this ditty with me.  She used to use fly spray on her child's head and wrap it in a towel or plastic bag.  Her child would scratch like buggery but it did kill all including the nits.  Tea tree oil is primo for  using as the lice don't like it.  It coats the hair and thus becomes a protectant.  The good old conditioner is the top notch.  You can actually turn it into a game if your child hates having their head cleaned.   I used to condition my boy's head and then over the bath, flick my fingers through his long locks and flick into the bath.  Afterwards we would look to see how many we caught and then click them and kill them.  Lice loved his beautiful hair and it was becoming a regular occurance, and so I had to come up with ways to get him to let me do his hair.  We have never had a problem since.  Its been ten years since.



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my-kind-of-scene
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | my-kind-of-scene
Nits

When my eldest was around 16 months with a head full of thick curls (think Shirley Temple) she was infected with nits, so we tried all the normal nit treatments which included scrubbing the house from top to bottom, then 7 days later we did the whole tiring process once again.

After all our time and effort of ridding our house of nits our daughter was reinfected, so once again we did the normal process in the hope of banishing the evil, nasty things once again.

Come the 3rd time in a matter of 6 weeks of preparing to go into battle once again with the hideous creatures, I had had enough and was ready to throw out all soft furnishings, rip up carpeting, burn all soft toys and bedding and shave every head in the house, well that was until the lovely lady at the chemist gave me the sanity saving solution of using the good old conditioner treatment coupled with a daily dose of tea tree oil made up in a spray bottle with water.

To date our children and us have remained nit free, just over 8 years now *woohoo*

I also learnt that for children’s soft toys (teddy bears and what have you), it is easier to just peg them all on the line in full sun for a day or two, according to my step-mum the sun somehow kills off the nits.

We also vacuum our sofas once a week and give them a quick spray with the tea tree oil and water solution, same goes for all the bedding, every time we change the bedding we give it all a quick spray with tea tree oil just as an additional preventative.

*now if only I could stop scratching*



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Aidansmom07
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2006 | Aidansmom07
More to add...
Well my friends, I have to tell you, I thought that was a pretty good article when I originally wrote it, and its still not bad, but by the time I am finished de lousing my kids hair I think i will have more to add, so please feel free to watch for the revised version if you are struggling with the lice problem as well.


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tinker79
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2006 | tinker79
Nit picking
Great article, you covered all the bases.  Remember to tell your kids not to share their hats, toques, jackets, scarves, combs , hair accessories toooetc...anything that has contact with their head.


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Aidansmom07
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2006 | Aidansmom07
You'll never believe...
Not 36 hours after I posted this article, don't I get a call at work saying my son has head lice.  I am just sick, trying to treat a baby's head, when you can't even use the regular shampoo is not fun.  I wonder if he would have gotten them if I had kept my big ol' mouth shut about lice?


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Butterfly1956
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2006 | Butterfly1956
NITS

I have tried and it works, put any type of conditioner through the hair, the cheeper the better, lots of conditioner in dry hair, then comb through with a fine tooth comb, rub off the conditioner in the comb on a white piece of paper to see if there are any bugs in the hair. Aparently the conditioner stuns the adults, then get a nit egg rmover from your local chemist and follow directions. I must say that I am in Australia. Then treat the WHOLE family, including men's beards. Then everyone else that has daily contact should be treated as well.

When at school, if your child's school has a nit check, please make sure that they all wear gloves because that is also a way for the eggs to get transported to your childs hair.

I remember about 14 years ago, my second daughter was making her junior debut, about 9 weeks before hand she had nits, I did all the right things and got rid of them all, (at that time she had really long hair) she came home from school with them AGAIN, twice. I went to the school and told them that I was excluding her until they did something about it. I keep her home for 6 weeks. Yep, there was a kid in the class that was not being treated at home and was reinfecting everyone all the time. Now infected kids get sent home until treatment is done and they are nit free.

I agree that it is not a bad thing to have nits, it is just a pain with all the cleaning that has to be done.

Cheers Butterfly1956



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Aidansmom07
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2006 | Aidansmom07
I forgot to mention...
That if you must resort to the vinegar and oil treatment, you must keep doing it for it to have success.  Daily for the first few days then every other day.  (this is if it's an extreme case, we had a kid at work who had it for 6 weeks, tried everything to no avail, this is what actually worked for her!!
Sarah


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