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Misconceptions about natural father lies and deceit

klaushelpenstein by klaushelpenstein Speaking(November 2006) (rank 357th)

Hummm Some Advice Please!!

My husband of 6 years has two children to his ex wife, a boy aged 12 and daughter now 14. However due to the living situation the children were bought up in (their grandmother as biological mother was mentally unstable) the children were poisoned

with misconceptions about their natural father. However two nights ago his now 14 year old daughter has discovered old solicitor letters belonging to her grandmother where her natural father tried to initiate contact on more than several occasions. Hence has discovered that her grandmother and mother have lied about their father (said he didnt want to see them blah blah you know how it goes!)

We knew this day would come that they would one day soon find out and are ecstatic that his daughter at least wants to see her father. However I feel awkward as its been 11 years since we saw her last and was wanting to know how to break the ice with her conversation wise as Im sure she has questions about her grandmother for us (lying to her all her young life) and I feel she needs to see for herself how her father really is. However his son still does not want contact with his father which is Ok we wont push him too but Im sure he wont be far behind.

What do we say if she says nasty things about her grandmother and mother and what they have made her go through?

We dont want to enter into backstabbing the other parent! (Obviously we have more maturity). Has anybody dealt with estranged children returning? How did you cope, we want to make her feel as welcome as possibly can be but are unprepared for things she may ask. Any advice would be fantastic!!! Do we introduce her to our own children on first visit or do we wait so shes not too bombarded at once? Do we show her our solicitor copies of attempted access through out her life to prove we did try to see her or is in inappropriate for a 14 year old?

HELP!!!

I have personally had this happen to me, and as well have been involved with children that have been in the situation through children that I have fostered.


  1. You cannot change what the child has been told, the child may or may not be looking for answers from you and will probably be expecting to find an uncaring ogre.
             Now that the child has come to see her Dad, I suggest you avoid severall pitfalls these being:

  • The need to prove to her that none of this was your fault and that everything was a lie and deceit
              Maybe everything that the child has been told is lies, may be it bites at the back of your mind, maybe you feel that now it's your turn to get your own back.

              Rule no 1.)  DON'T BOTHER TRYING TO GET YOUR OWN BACK
              Let the child speak, let her say what she has to say, simply explain to her that sometimes things get out of proportion, that the past is the past and you are
              simply glad to have her there at last, at 14 it's not the time to get into the nitty gritty of all the backstabbing lies and deceit.
  • The need to prove to her that you are not the ogre that she has been told you are
              Rule No 2.) DON'T TRY TOO HARD
              Be yourself without pretences, don't change your life around to try and make you look better than what you are, if you are happy with who you are then let
              her see the real you, remember if you pretend to be more than what you are, you are lying to her and to yourself and you may have to keep up the pretence
              for a long time and sooner or later it will come back on you if you are faking the real you.

  • The need to make up with material things for the past
              Rule No 3.) Don't start of on the wrong foot with presents
             
Many absent parents feel they have to make up for all the Birthdays, Xmasses and whatever else they have missed out on by going out splurging and
              buying presents for the returning child, if the child just wants contact with dad, then she's not out there to get what she can and in fact would probably feel
              uncomfortable with being showered with gifts, further it has the disadvantage, especially if you are financially strapped, that the child may be expecting
              such lavish gifts every time she visits, remember you cannot buy love, love is freely given and taken between a child and it's parent.

  • Don't be tempted to bag the ex and her grandmother
             Rule No 4.) Don't get down to their level
            
It's tempting to let out all your rage and bag the ex wife and her grandmother, as they have done to you for so many years, and yes I know what that felt like,
             however by starting to pick on them all you will be achieving is a little self satisfaction, no matter what the child will have feelings for her mother and her
            grand mother and although she may not be happy about what she has read in letters or found out elsewhere don't imagine that those feelings have
            disappeared overnight, if she is persistent with her questions, answer them thruthfully and without malice, but as I said above,  the preferred answer is
            "let's forget about the past , yes there have been untruths told but lets just enjoy each others company, we are just glad you are here"
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JadieLady
December 2006 | JadieLady
it was me!

I was unfortunately the child in this situation, and everytime i was in contact with my real dad ( i am now doubting he really is) i would always be a big old drama, him accusing my mum of poisoning our minds against him, (even though we were present at the time certain events occured) and telling lies and all sorts and it just ended horribly.  if the parents aren't going to get along there should be a rule that what is discussed with one parent stays in their house. otherwise it is nasty for the children to experience.



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jlj
November 2006 | jlj
Be yourself
Children are smarter and more intuitive than we give them credit for most of the time. If you just be yourself and let her make her own opinions of you she will be able to deal with all the new things she is experiencing a little easier. She has obviously made the first step and is ready to form her own opinions in regard to her mother and grandmother. So just allow her to make them herself. Don't try to prompt or push her or you may just push her away.


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lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2006 | lexiw
Excellent advice

Always be yourself and tell the truth



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Jody31
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2006 | Jody31
Wonderful!!

As the author of the abovementioned question I just wanted to thank you so much for the fabulous advice. This is indeed hard core down to earth logic. Some of the suggestions we had thought of and others not. When you are in a situation such as this it is often hard to see outside the box. Its people like yourself that always give you a different and sensible angle to work from.

Thank you again!!!



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