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TALCUM POWDER: Harmful substance.

elizabeth by elizabeth Young Parent(December 2006) (rank 67th)

                 I first learnt that Talc was a harmful substance 20 years ago in an Art class in school. Our teacher told us that we would be working with talc stone and that we were required to wear a surgical mask, gloves and

long sleeves. The day of our talc carving class arrived and everyone seemed excited at the thought of working with such a dangerous substance. I was a little worried because I was thinking, doesn't talcum powder come from talc stone?

                                                                                                             

                  Before we put our masks on, our art teacher told us why we needed to be cautious. She began by saying that there was a high incedence of respiratory disease in talc miners. That when talc is broken down/crushed the particles resemble asbestos. The particles of talc were also fine and blocked skin pores and was easily inhaled into the lungs, causing a whole range of problems including cancer. I had to ask the question. Does that mean that talcum powder is just as harmful? Her reply was that in her opinion YES. We then proceeded to carve the ominous stone. I felt sick. My mum was one of those ladies that put layers of scent on her body after every shower. Body lotion, copious amounts of talc, deordourant then perfume. I went home and told my mum that she needed to stop using talc. It took alot of nagging on my part until she finally reduced the amount of talc she used, eventually stopping. Looking back, I think that the lesson was more about the teacher getting her message out rather than learning how to carve talc stone. Ah the constraints of being a teacher!

                   My advice to new parents and parents who are using talcum powder on themselves or their children is to look into other options. I have always used Cornflour/ cornstarch on my children, only very sparingly and only in the skin folds of the legs, arms and the gluteal fold(where the bum meets the back of the legs)and certainly not directly on their genitals. Some people I know have saids oh but I like the smell of baby powder! Um, yeap that's a good reason to keep using it. Just put some lavender flowers, chamomile flowers or pot pourri at the bottom of a container and then put the cornflour on top of that. Use a cotton ball to apply the flour to the areas you want.

                  For nappy rash I  found letting the kids have nappy free time everyday worked wonders and they loved it. I washed my children with a warm flannel/wash cloth and cold pressed almond oil for every nappy change. My husband once wiped my daughter after a poo. He thought she was clean and after I showed him the cloth after wiping her with oil, he was amazed and now tells all new parents he comes across to use the oil. I towel dried their bottoms carefully after every nappy change and applied a good barrier cream,Lucas' Papaw Ointment worked well for us. I never had a problem with my son and nappy rash, and unfortunately because of my daughter being severely ill, she did have shocking nappy rash early on but once she was better, there weren't any problems either. It sounds like alot to do at nappy change time, but if you buy everything in bulk and prepare it all, there really is not any difference. It is also cost effective. Compare the price of cornflour to baby powder, compare the price of using nappy wipes to using oil. Whatever you decide, please don't use talc. Following is a list of links for your own perusal. There is so much evidence out there that supports what I am saying and also there is so much supporting the opposite opinion. My question is why would I risk it when the alternative is so easy.  Thanks for reading and sorry for the waffle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talc

http://www.preventcancer.com/consumers/cosmetics/talc.hmt

http:/www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_6x_Talcum_Powder_and_Cancer.asp?sitearea

www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?id=104191&catId=100447&tid=100008&p=5&title=Personal+care+products%3a+myths%2c+rumours+and+facts+(archived)

http://parenting.ivillage.com/baby/bsafety/0,,3q5k,00.html

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Domestic-warrior
July 2008 | Domestic-warrior
Re: TALCUM POWDER: Harmful substance.

Great advice.  I have heard using talc on girls especially is a no no! It is so easy to make your own 'talc' from cornstarch and add a few drops of lavender for a yummy smell.  I also use Lucas's Paw Paw ointment but was told it has a petroleum base, do you know if that is true?  The Almond oil is a great idea.  Love it!



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janicepovey
April 2008 | janicepovey
Re: TALCUM POWDER: Harmful substance.

 I found this a very interesting piece of advice, i had heard this about talcum powder many years ago and have not used talcum since. Excellent article, very informative.

Cheers Janice



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hopperskincare
April 2008 | hopperskincare
Re: TALCUM POWDER: Harmful substance.

I've only recently heard that talc was bad for you now every one I tell says oh yeah I already knew that. When I had my son in 2006 the midwife told us not to use talc on him but didn't say why. I've actually just started selling a Talc-Free Baby Powder because I was so alarmed about it and all of my own talc bottles went in the bin. If anyone is interested in my Talc-Free Baby Powder email me or google me Hoppers Skin Care



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whome
February 2008 | whome
Re: TALCUM POWDER: Harmful substance.

great article, i once read that using talc can also cause cancer of the womb, here in the uk.



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angieh
January 2008 | angieh
Re: TALCUM POWDER: Harmful substance.

Really? That's the first time I've ever heard of it being dangerous for you.... interesting stuff.



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mammabella
4.43 (Good) | July 2007 | mammabella
Re: TALCUM POWDER: Harmful substance.

Cold pressed almond oil is a good idea!  Thanks! 

A little Calendula oil is also gentle to use, and smells beautiful on baby too!  http://www.weleda.com.au/product.cfm?productid=3663   Oils are a much better alternative to talcum powder!

I use Lucas's Paw Paw ointment on my son's face as he has a rash on both sides. Before I started using it, I was using QV cream but this did not help my son's face. I went to a pharmacy to buy an alternative and was recommended cortisone.  I didn't like the sound of that, so I trusted my own motherly instincts and used my own Lucas's Paw Paw ointment and have noticed a major improvement in 3 days.



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      elizabeth
July 2007 | elizabeth
Re: TALCUM POWDER: Harmful substance.

I always used almond oil to wash my children, especially their bottoms. I did an experiment with my husband when my daughter was still very young. After he cleaned her bottom with a white face cloth he then went over her again but using the oil. Thinking that he had done a great job the first time, he was amazed when the face cloth was stained with the typical babypoo colour. He has recommended it to so many people. I also use lucas pawpaw ointment. Both my kids thought it tasted pretty good too but that is another story. LOVE calendula. I am glad to see that there are more people using natural products on their babies.

x D x



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melandbailee
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | melandbailee
NO Talcum Powder!!!!!
My mum actually told me not to use talcum power on my daughter as she watched a tv program about how talcum power was found around the girls ovarys when they got older and it caused them to be infertile. It was saying that the fine particales get it there privates and work there way through which afects them years later.... thats why i wont use it again.


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AllthenewsIneed
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | AllthenewsIneed
Talcum Powder Harmful Substance
I just had this conversation with my mum today when she told me not to use talc on my baby.  She told me how when I was a baby she put nappy rash cream on me and then without thinking put talc on straight after.  She said she had to give me another bath to get rid of the mess and was telling the health visitor about her mistake the next day.  The health visitor said that talc was not good for babies and that just being dried properly after a bath was better for them.  After that she never used it on my but my Aunt used to use lots of it on my cousin and he was diagnosed asthmatic as a baby.


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allyp
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | allyp
Baby powder a NO NO

I don't use baby powder as it can cause breathing problems in babies. So what I use is Huggies Liquid baby powder and it works soooo much more. It goes on liquid and it dries as if you put on the normal baby powder.

I would defiently use that if you dont want to use baby powder.



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pagan-mum-of-three
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | pagan-mum-of-three
Wow...

Goodness me, I never really thought about it that way. My Mum is an avid talc user. Always has been ever since I can remember. She has now been disganosed with asthma, after so many years use, I wonder if the talc use had anything to do with it? It probobly does.

I'm about to send her this posting so she can read it for herself...

Thank you so much for bringing this up. I am now about to throw away all the talc in the house. Mine included

(Hmmmmm  might take a while to pluck up the courage, mine is LeReve talc....)



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pitomoosey
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | pitomoosey
never knew the risks

 I cant believe I never knew this until yesterday, when I think of the amount of powder mum mother used on us, and the amount I used on my older children.

True I love the smell of a little powder on babies, but it is also true the whenever too much was applied, ( or the kids got the container) it made it awfully hard to breathe in...???

 Thank you for the warning Elizabeth, if it helps one baby, its worth it. I would rather my baby smell than get sick!! (not that she USUALLY does lol) smell that is...

              pito



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MumKim
4.00 (Good) | December 2006 | MumKim
My mum said it was old news
I told my Mum that baby powder was a current no no (was told by the midwives at a recent anti-natal class) She told me that baby powder was a no no when I was a baby. i was born just a few weeks after man first walked on the moon so I that was a while ago (please don't do the maths).


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madchanny
4.55 (Excellent) | December 2006 | madchanny
talc powder

im so lucky to never think of using talcum powder for my son, i thought it was just plain messy, for nappy rash i always used a medicated cream to help it heal and let it dry out more after bathtime as this was most affective. the only thing i use talc for is my rubbish bins (indoor and outdoor), it just keeps it smelling better than rubbish.

so advice to women who use it, id say dont take the risk and use it for the bin.

 



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Tazzette
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | Tazzette
Talc Powder
It certainly makes you think doesn't it. I had heard not to use it on children but what about the rest of us? After I finish writing this I'm going through my house & throwing all my powder out. Thankyou for saving my family's life! 


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ssedgar
4.55 (Excellent) | December 2006 | ssedgar
wow
You wouldn't think that Talc powder could be so harmful it is something to think about for sure, i have not had much problem with nappy rash with teh boys but i used ot let them run around with no nappy for a while each day which helps


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exquisite-flower
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | exquisite-flower
So true

I was fortunate to never have nappy rash probs with E, but she often went without a nappy in the day for an hour or sobefore her rest time. 

Cornflour is awesome stufff.  I remember getting some kinda shavers rash when I was about 13 under my armpit and we were on holiday visiting family in NZ.  It was so itchy I was going mad.  Mum gave me a tiny lil jam jar (like the ones you get in hotels) full of cornflour and I dabbed it on each time the itchy drove me mad.  It was gone in 2 days. 

Trick is to also use a minimal amount - be it powder or cream that you are using, then if the body gets hot it will not congeal on the skin and cause any more probs.
Peace
EF.x 



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      elizabeth
4.00 (Good) | December 2006 | elizabeth
So true
I believe that less is best for pretty much anything in regards to bodycare products,and that if your goning to use any powder you should apply it with a cooton ball or something. It reduces the amount of airbourne particles.


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