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Children and dealing with death

lightbee by lightbee Young Parent(December 2006) (rank 19th)

My grandmother died about 3 months ago of breast cancer and it was the first time my little girls had to deal with a person's death.

When someone you're close to dies you're definitely not in the best place yourself, and trying to help children come to terms with

things when you're in that space is really hard.  Things I found that helped were:

  • Taking children to the hospital - When I was growing up, we were not allowed to see people when they were ill because it might upset us.  All it did was make things more scary and unknown.  We took our kids to see my grandma in hospital when we could.  We kept it to short visits for my grandma's sake (she loved seeing her great-grandchildren, but they can get pretty tiring) and took toys and other things to keep them amused.  They understood that she was very sick, but also that she still loved them.
  • Not using euphemisms for death - We never talked about my grandma "passing away" or "going to a better place".  We just said that she died.  We did run into one problem in trying to explain what death was.  We told the kids that G-G (short for "Great-Grandmother") had died and gone to be with Jesus.  My eldest daughter - who seems to have a very profound understanding of Christianity - then pointed out that Jesus was alive again and that means G-G is alive again too.  It took us some fast talking to explain that Jesus might be alive again, but it didn't work that way for ordinary people. 
  • Letting them see a viewing - I understand that people will have different views on this, and there are circumstances where it won't be appropriate to see the body of loved one.  But in our situation, my grandma died in one of the bedrooms in my mum's house and was still there a few hours later when my girls arrived.  We told them G-G had died and asked them if they wanted to see her.  They said yes, and ran into the bedroom.  They just looked at her and my youngest said "She's dead.  She don't talk."  We agreed with her.  Then they asked to watch Care Bears.  They just took it all in their stride.  A week later, before the funeral, the girls came with me to the official viewing to say good bye.  Again they just took it in their stride.  It really occurred to me that once upon a time, death was a normal part of existence for kids.  Now we sanitise it so much, it can be hard to see the reality of it.
  • Let them see your emotions - This was probably the hardest part because seeing me upset was the hardest for my kids.  But it also meant we could talk about death being sad, and missing the person.
  • Let them be part of the funeral - All the grandkids were the pall-bearers for my Grandma's coffin, and my girls walked with us as we went down the aisle.  I also took the girls to a florist before the funeral, and they each chose a flower which they put on the coffin at the crematorium.   They really liked that.

I couldn't help comparing this to my own first experience with death as a kid.  It was my great-great-uncle, who I'd known quite well.  We were not allowed to go to the funeral or the wake and not only did I feel like I wasn't included, but I also felt like I wanted to understand what on earth was going on.  I didn't feel I could accept he was gone cause I didn't get to say goodbye in any way.   I really hope that by including the kids in things and explaining it to them that they have a better understanding and acceptance of the situation.

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exquisite-flower
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | exquisite-flower
Good sense
Must admit that i think I would do similar to you if faced with a similar situation.  We know how much our children can accept, but they are also resilient, and can understand more than we give them credit for often.  So supporting them through with facts and reality certainly gets my vote of a good course of action.
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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | breannababy
Kids coping
I have had to deal with death of loved ones quite a bit and have found that being open and explaining simply is usually the best way to go.Your article is very helpful and fills a need for those around us.Thank-you so much for your time and effort in writing this wonderful advice.I feel your loss regards Merle


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angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | angelmum
Death and Children
So sorry for your loss she looks like she was wonderful lady, I had to deal with death from a very young age and coming from a large family it seems like there was always a funeral to go to whether it was family or friends.  My parents were always honest and lets us be involved in every funeral, I have viewed many a body but the only bad memory I have was when my uncle died, I was not so happy about viewing his body. He kind of freaked me out in life and I really didn't want to seem him dead but his wife which was his second wife grabbed me by my arm and tried to drag me in to see him I was terrified my mum thank god stopped her and she had a arguement with my mum about it.  As for showing kids your emotions it is very important, I lost a friend 3 years ago and I was a mess my eldest boy kept on asking my husband why mummy was crying all the time, he was only 2 at the time, we sat him down and explained in the simplest way that he could understand and his reaction was just beautiful the way he hugged me and patted my back telling me not to be sad, I told him that she was now an angel looking over us. Just over a year later I lost another friend and this time he was like this little adult, so understanding and caring.  I think preparing them that people die is the only way they will be able to cope when it does happen and to see mummy so sad but able to be happy again has got to send a message that its ok and not scary.  Great advice so glad you wrote it again Im sorry for your loss but as I said to my boy she is now an Angel watching over you xx


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      lightbee
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | lightbee
Death and Children

Thanks.  She was a wonderful lady and I miss her a lot.  We were never very good at expressing emotion in our family, so I was very lucky that Christmas 2 years ago I wrote her a letter telling her how glad I was she was my Grandma and that she'd got to see my children etc.  She wrote a wondeful letter back to me which is very precious now.  I didn't know that she would be likely to die so soon after, so I feel so privileged that I got that opportunity.



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lightbee
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | lightbee
Thanks!

Thank you so much everyone who's written comments here.  I hadn't realised when I wrote the article that it would be a really good opener on a reasonably taboo subject.  My heart goes out to those of you for whom this is such a pressing issue at the moment.  My heart-strings are definitely being tugged every which way reading about some of the struggles that each of you is having.  But I am so glad you shared.

Thank you.



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cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | cookclan
My opinion
First of all I would like to say sorry for your loss. Children are very resiliant they take things in their stride most kids deal with death very well. It is not until you become an adult you start to not cope too well. Who knows this might be because this was sheltered from most of us too. When I lost my daughter (stillborn) Aidan who was 5 at the time wanted to see her but we did not feel it was right for him to due to reasons of a few things but I think if she had of been okay for him to look at I might have it was something I struggled with for awhile hey but we can't turn back time can we. You have some very good points and this advice is very well written.


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monyq83
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | monyq83
Thank you so much for writing this.
I have a very sick grandfather who has been told he probably wont see Xmas. That's tomorrow. And im $h!t scared. Your advice couldnt have come at a better time. I really like the bit about the flower on the coffin, what a great idea. Il definately be using that. Thanks for making it easier.


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Frontier
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | Frontier
Death and the first Christmas
One of the hardest things would have to be that first Christmas without your loved one. My sister in law will have this challenge as she lost her husband to cancer earlier this year. It will be a hard Christmas for all of us as we all get together. The boys have been good since the death and being 4 & 7 have dealth with a few deaths in the last few years (humans and pets) and they are pretty matter of fact about it.
My 4yo says he does not want to die and he will miss me so much when I do. This just gives me goosbumps and I tell him just to have a kick of the footy with me and we will have some fun and when the times comes to die we will sort that out.


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LoyalMiss
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | LoyalMiss
Children & Death
I haven't had to face this issue as yet but have always wondered how to handle it if the need ever arose.  Thank you for this advice because it shows me once again, that wrapping our children in cotton wool may not always be the best way to go.


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monaardnas
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | monaardnas
children dealing with death

My 8 yr old was 6 when her father died due to him taking his own life.  She wasnt raised by him and never really got to know her father but she loved him as if she spent ever waking hour with him when in actual fact in the 6 yrs she probably got to spend a week with him.

His wife didnt have a funeral because she didnt want me there and his daughter there. The only funaral type thing that he had was a viewing. I didnt want to take her because i had never seen a dead body up close and didnt want her to have to go through with it. BUT she wanted to go. And her reason for this was he is my dad. So with that answer i took her. She stood there for at least half a hr just stearing at him. I was freaking out but she stood there calmy getting on tip toes looking at her lifless father in his coffin. To this day i think it was the best thing i did.

My daughter is her father all over has been since the day she was born. I just pray that when she is older than the finds out  how her father died and gets to a stage in her life and thinks hey dad did it so can i.

The saddest moment in my life was the day I took her to the house he lived in to show her and after we left we were talking around the shops and she told me she wanted to die to be with her dad. She now is a very happy child. Talks about her dad often. Every time she gets a balloon she lets it go and says she is giving it to her dad.

When he was alive his wife kept them apart but now in his death she can go to his grave and visit him and nothing his wife can do to stop her. My satisfaction in his death were his wife is concerned i had 6 yrs to get used to my daughter not having to have anything to do with her and now she has the rest of her sons life to deal with the same thing i have.

The worst thing is fathers day, gong to a park and seeing dads playing with there kids. I can handle being a single parent as i have been doing it since my oldest was born but knowing my youngests father is never coming back and she never having him in her life again is sad. I have never had a close family member die and for it to happen to her is devistating.

I just wish all kids got to have both parents in there life



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