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Accident prone? Or self harm? Cutting to take the pain away...(edited)

cookclan by cookclan Young Parent(January 2007) (rank 9th)
Self injury...... Cutting..... Is it a suicide attempt or taking the pain away??
 
My experience....

I have a 16 year old boy who has suffered many a year battling his demons of past and present.... I remember when he first went to the doctor about what we
thought was depression and was talking away.... The doctor asked ... Have you ever cut yourself mate? He lifted his shirt with me there and I nearly fell of the chair...... Tears welled in my eyes here was my baby boy covered in cuts and not small ones either some deep and some shallow..... like he had been using his body as a doodling pad as most people would use a pen and paper.... I had failed him as a parent...... Why did I not know this was happening? Not out there on his wrists or arms for any one else to see but under his clothes for no body to see.... His reasoning you ask?? For what reason could any child do this? His answer would be to you or anyone else who asked It takes the pain away It makes me feel good, better than before I cut myself......

 This is not uncommon among teenagers......

This is a quote I have copied and pasted here from the enquirer.com
Dr. Armando Favazza, a psychiatry professor at the University of Missouri-Columbia medical school and an expert on self-mutilation, calls the behavior a morbid form of self-help. It is not a suicide attempt, although mentally ill self-mutilators are at increased risk of suicide, he says.

Some teenagers cut where it can be seen and are quiet proud of their cutting these people are different to these kids who hurt themselves and hide it away and if you do catch a mark on their arm or a burn from self harm they always have an acceptable explaination. Any marks on my son were explained as oh I did that skateboarding and now I look back and think I wonder if it was. Some people mistake cutting as a sign of someone looking for attention... And sometimes it is but for someone to inflict harm on themselves looking for attention must have some sort of problems. There is a higher rate for girls to do this but it is not only girls who do it.

My son has not cut himself for just over a year now as when he told the doctor he was doing it he was ready for some help. This is just my experience with self harm from a mothers point of view. These are my tips to you with teenagers

  • If your teen is having a particularly bad time at school or is alone, bullied or picked on please get them outside help. A trusted doctor or a mental health worker counsellor or anyone outside the school. My son would not see the school counsellor because he did not want the kids to see him going to anyone there. There are programs run through most mental health units for kids who are struggling with the day to day things that come with being a teenager.
  • Friendship problems bullying a past of abuse a death in the family etc all need to be talked about and dealt with and if you feel your child is not talking enough seek a professional opinion.
There is nothing as a parent that you have to feel shame for when a child is harming them selves you have not failed your child. Sometimes kids do this off their own bat sometimes the friends they have show them that that is what they do and tell them how much better they will feel about it. My son was introduced to it by an ex girlfriend who also did it. Self harm can be a burn from an eraser just rubbed hard enough to cause a burn, a cut or even poking themselves with a sharpe object. If you are in fear of your child harming themselves because of any reason seek  a medical opinion because believe me it can be fixed but it needs to be identified first

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I hope none of you have to go through this but now that you have read this maybe a small thing in here has triggered a small thing in your mind about something your child has done that was a little of base to you.

Take care
Cheers
 Angie
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Flicka
September 2007 | Flicka
Re: Accident prone? Or self harm? Cutting to take the pain away...(edited)

Can very much relate to this article.  The things we go through as parents hey.  It's good of you to share this information.



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August88
September 2007 | August88
Re: Accident prone? Or self harm? Cutting to take the pain away...(edited)
Thanks Angie. There is so much to look out for that it is overwhelming but it is like an intuition when you know something isn't right. I want to get some help for my son like you did. I don't think he is cutting but something is up. Wagging and finding marijuana in his room last year was just the start of these never ending problems I have been having. It has now esculated to things going missing and locks destroyed and lieing and disappearing to various friends around the area. I am ready to get him help but he doesn't want it. He turns to denial and says nothing is up. Will look at private councilling, TA, Lynette xx


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emmie
June 2007 | emmie
Re: Accident prone? Or self harm? Cutting to take the pain away...(edited)

Hey angie great advice ther i too used to cut myself but with help i stopped but after a while the child realises the pain changes and a cut is not as painful as their heart is aching thanks good one i love it

luv emz x



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Libby24
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Libby24
self harm and cutting
This is great from a parents view.

I have what they call Borderline Personality Disorder and from what my pdoc tells me I have been like this since 13 when it all started and its taken me 13 years to open up to anyone for help. I  used to cut myseld pretty much every day and when i was 14 i broke up with what i thought was a long term relationship it got worse as i thought i was stupid and worthless. I was mentally and physically abused by my mother and sister and was raped by a boyfried and tryed to end my life a number of times from 14 -16. In the end I just stayed in my room and became afraid of the world. i finaly got out and decided to finish school and move out of that place to a better one. and sadly was raped yet again by another boyfriend, I have little to no resect for men and as a result have problems now with my husband, I am so thankful that he is understanding. At this time at Tafe I met my husband and he saved me from that life and stoped me from ending it all. The worst part is no one knew and up until recently neither did my husband and yes I do stil cut when I feel really down and bad but that I my coping and I know that if I go to far I have the help. I am on medication and on other web sites for help aswell as seing a pdoc and a councilor.

No mother can tell these things as I was told I was a good teenager, my mother never had a problem with me. I just hope to God that I can see the signs that I had with my kids and that they dont feel they have the need to do this to themself.


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Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Wendigo
Been there...

...done that, and have the scars to prove it.

It's not just a teenage thing.  For some strange reason physical pain does seem to help take away emotional pain - but in the long term it does no good.

It's easy to hide and even easy to make excuses for, so don't blame yourself if you suddenly find out your teenager is doing/has done it.  You are a good parent if you take action and do something about it - such as talk to your kid and encourage them to seek professional help - once you do find out.

The only parents that fail are the ones that give up caring.



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      angelicarose
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | angelicarose
Been there...

I also have done it... Not proud of it at all but i have.

When i used to fight with my ex he would say nasty things about me and i would feel like i didnt deserve to live. I didnt want to die because I had responsibilities and iIlove my kids so I cut my self instead, just small grases usually on the top of my thighs(noone could see there)... This went on for about a year. It didnt stop untill he left me.  I think it was an attention thing for him to see how much pain i was in...

 



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | nell18-3
I'm ashamed to say I did it!
Once after an almighty row with my ex, I felt so useless and stupid and it was hurting so bad whilst I was crying I scratched the back of my hand without realising it I kept scratching, all I knew was that I felt pain but nothing else registered. I then felt my hand was sticky and I looked at my hand and was shocked that I had scratched off several layers of skin and the whole back of my hand was covered in blood. I asked my daughter and parents to watch I never did it again, because it scared me how calming it was. I was in so much pain but it was like AAAHHHH now I know why I'm hurting. I actually felt sane again after doing an 'insane' thing.
Crazy what happens to the mind when you get pushed that far.
Thanks for highlighting this terrible thing and giving people a better understanding.


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      cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cookclan
I'm ashamed to say I did it!
Nothing to be ashamed of..... The feeling you talk about of relief is one that alot of people feel I am glad you have not done it again but some people are not so lucky...... that feeling of relief is sooo good to them that they keep doing it and that is the scary part about the whole thing........Thanks for your comment and sharing something like that with all of us.......


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OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | OzBinky
Shedding light on self harm
Top stuff Angie,

Thank you so much for sharing this. I have had some issues understanding cutting. This has explained a great deal to me that I didn't know about or believe, as ashamed of myself as I am for saying that but its true. Thank you from someone who had so many doubt about this.....

Cheers
Lavinia


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      cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cookclan
Shedding light on self harm
Nothing to be ashamed of mate. I had troubles with it too when it first came out that Aidan was doing it. I could not grasp the concept that someone could hurt themselves to make the pain go away it was weird to me. Okay I don't like pain but it just did not make sense at all. We read up a bit on the net and went to a couple of sessions with his shrink and that pretty much shed some light on it all.


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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | breannababy
SELF HARM
Hi Angie,I know where you are coming from.Most people would know on minti that I have bipolar by now,I have never really made a corelation between cutting and my disorder.I don't know if there is?I know when I was down as a child,teen and to a lesser extent an adult I would cause self harm,not to the extent of being hospitalized,but I would gouge at my arms with my nail(they were like talons)rip out hair and it may sound crazy but I would slap and punch at my face.any marks were not too visible as they matched the ones left by my Father a lot of the time.The claw marks if questioned,would be blamed on the dog or cat etc.I think it is something that every parent should be aware of.I know there are trends eg frosties and smilies,but for people like Aiden and I there are severe underlying problems.Thanks Angie you are NO 1 MUM in my book


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      cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cookclan
SELF HARM
I am not quite sure if it is Bipolar or other stresses in childhood that would bring this on as Aidan too use to hit himself in the head as well to slow his mind up he would say. So really I do not know but thanks for you nice comment mwah


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bellachell
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | bellachell
Great Article
I know as a teen I myself would cut myself usually with a sharpener blade. It was never to hurt myself just to see how far I could go. I eventually realised that it really was to hurt myself and that I was in denial over it. Thank you for bringing this subject out into the open. I'm sure a lot of parents will find it very helpful.


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      cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cookclan
Great Article
This was my intention. I wanted to write about an experience that I have had and the pain I felt when I found out. There a many kids out there that do this to act tough to their friends etc..... but cutting as it is commonly known is a big problem among our teenagers who have problems. In some towns there is even kids who get together and have cutting groups it is scarey and for someone who never did anything like this it is very hard to understand.... Yes I did the whole smily thing and the carving a boys intials in my ankle but I never cut myself to take the pain away. Everything with our children is a learning curve and if someone can learn one thing from my experience with it then thats greta thanks for your comment.


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Tadexpress
4.81 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Tadexpress
Also
In addition to cutting there are frosties and smilies. Frosties are where an aerosol can is held so close to the skin that it causes a burn from the gas coming out  the second is a smilie which is where a lighter is held in the on position unitl it is hot enough to burn the skin which it does in a semi circle hence the term smiley. Both can occur in both male and female teens generally it appears to be males as the girls prefer cutting, its a sad situation in our society, parents are not to blame with this new form of self pain, its commonly discussed amongst the kids and there is always a surge after a new Jackass type movie is released.


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      peachynowamum
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | peachynowamum
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the smily thing was and the frosty was a game... as teenagers we would see who had the higher pain tolerance... It actually never occured to us that it might leave a scare or that we were harming ourselves... we just wanted to see who was tougher... Also the gus would grab each others hand and link their arms together and drop a lit cigarette between them and see who flinches first or moves away while it burns their flesh... You see it was all about competition...

So although I agree with you both I must say not everyone does it cause they are depressed or mentally ill... And yes the number increases after every new jackass movie...



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           peachynowamum
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | peachynowamum
Also
I still have a smilie scar on my wrist from 7 years ago....


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                cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cookclan
I agree
Yes the jackass movies do increase self harming things BUT doing this with friends knowing about it and doing it where no body can see these marks is a little different........


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                     peachynowamum
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | peachynowamum
I agree

i m not saying it isnt... just thought i would throw out another possibility thats all... i just hope your son makes a full recovery and does not go back to that situation again

 



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                          cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cookclan
I agree
thank you


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                               monyq83
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | monyq83
I agree
god you just brought back memories. if i had a dollar for every smilie i copped during highschool.... i remember sitting in maths class as well, doodling pentagrams and pitchforks all over my body with the sharp point of a compass... my my my didnt that acheive alot lol


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      Tadexpress
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Tadexpress
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I didnt mean to imply that these types of things were related to depression and I am not trying to take away from ther seriousness of the written text, they are just things that many parents dont know to look for and are surprised when I have mentioned that their child has an infected frosty or smilie. It concerns me greatly that any of this is happening and I guess what I woudl like parents to take away from my commments it to be vigilent in knowing what their kids are up to, even if its just using your knowledge of the subject to open up discussion with your own. To me being a parent is the most important job in the world, we know to talk to our kids we know to check if we think something is wrong but I also know from my bipolar that serious stuff can be covered up for years open communication needs to be fostered if we're ever going to have a hope getting our kids to adulthood.



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           claudine1
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | claudine1
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u r right, i also remember trying it in highschool and when i did there was something bothering me, something was hurting inside. It doesn't matter what way, if u try to give urself pain it is because inside u are hurting. It might be little or big but when a teenager hurt , he will feel it three times more than it should. It must be the hormones. No matter what way we decide to hurt ourselves there is something deeper.


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                cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cookclan
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The way it was explained to me was that no matter how small their problem is if it stresses them so much to hurt themselves then it is a big problem thanks for your comment..... I don't know if I will fully understand the whole concept of hurting yourself to take the pain away maybe it is my fear of pain I dont know but I do know it is real and Frankly it scares the death out of me.....


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           cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cookclan
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You are right serious things can be covered up that is how I never knew about this until he was ready to share. He was very clean about it but and always took care of any cuts kept the clean. He does suffer with Bipolar as well and maybe that was part of the cover up also. I do not know. But as you said communication is definately the key to parenting children thansk for your comments


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