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SUICIDE ...

Anonymous Author (January 2007)
This may offend some people,however I think it is important for parents  and family to know some of the thoughts behind suicide.......I have tried to do this on 4 occasions through-out my life.My first attempt was when I was 17,I had been taken advantage of at work(I had the apprentice ship board behind me)My Father had as a result forcibly taken me to their farm and beaten me black and blue.I had no idea at the time I had bipolar,I knew I had something wrong.I ended up having a nervous break down,ALL I wanted was for the pain to go away for me in my mind there was no way out except for suicide.I was an absolute mess,at this age I did not think of my parents or family all I wanted was out.I thought of all the different ways I could do this,I chose pills I made sure I cleaned the house and cleaned my room and cooked dinner while every-one was down in the dairy.After I was sure no-one could whinge about me I took the pills,I don't remember anything else until the next morning.I awoke thinking OOOHHH nooo I am still here......I cursed and swore and then broke down and cried and cried.I don't know why I wasn't taken to hospital I do remember being taken to the doctor(another friend of my Fathers)She told Mum she would not report the attempt as long as I received counselling this never occurred in the end at 17& 1/2 I left home and wound up in an abusive marriage..........Through out this marriage I attempted suicide another 3 times all by pills.I really can't explain my surviving as I was never admitted to hospital I was near death a few times I believe and in a lot of pain,I was never just looking for attention but these attempts all 3 I truly thought every-one would be better off with-out me I never once thought they'd  miss me even my son I figured would be better off if I was gone.....People feel suicide is begot from selfishness I don't agree,I think it in itself is selfish but the thoughts behind it can be from a whole different act.Without a thought of selfishness,My brother did succeed in his attempt and this was 12 years ago.I am not over this I morn him and cry nearly on a daily basis you see he was more like my son to me.He was 19 and he left letters explaining why he did this tragic thing.I thank him for that.He and his girlfriend broke up and she was playing mind games with him,no she did not pull the trigger but she was the catalyst that pushed Jason over the edge.I have heard in the past people comment on the trivial incident that caused a suicide..........look deeper there is more to it.The things to watch are people suddenly putting things in order,tying up loose ends,giving away possessions going from morbid down behaviour to happy and affectionate.Some people will actually become the antithesis of themselves eg ; a normally responsible spender could become a shopperholic,and vice verser.Teen boys seem to be the most tragic group,they don't seem to be able to reach out for help and society is a bit blind in detecting any problems although this is changing thank goodness.As a parent of a teen I would look for any of the above signs as well as any strange injuries(self inflicted,cutting)Keep your finger on the pulse with friends and school,there are warning signs if you are on the look out for them.As an adult who has contemplated  tried suicide and been a loved one of someone who has succeeded I feel that I have been on all sides of the fence in regard to this subject.I cant say it doesn't cross my mind still especially given my battle with bipolar,however after being put through the hell of my Brother's suicide I will never take my own life.......I would not do this to my little girl or my husband.Our teens do not have the benefit of lifes lessons though and hormones or disorders such as depression or bipolar can in effect cloud their already confused state this is why we the sheppards of this troubled lot of teens need to be as vigilant as we can be.I hope this will help parents have a bit better understanding of this tragic subject that breaks our hearts regards merle
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boredmum
May 5th | boredmum
Re: SUICIDE ...

Great article,thank you for sharing.

 



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parttimedadofone
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | parttimedadofone
If only others would look closer
Very well written A+ 
If only people looked closer,   i two have been there a few times but no one noticed my crys for help even my partner and family,
I had a bad day sold every thing of my own and ended up in France and England thinking this extream change would fix things but it was a hypo-manic episode ( the extream opposite to manic depression )  and i tryed to do the same over there and was still crying out for help with family and friends and my partner here in Australia with no sucess,  Im still battling this but i will win, Thank you for pointing out  " itself is selfish but the thoughts behind it can be from a whole different act.Without a thought of selfishness" . If only others would look closer.
Thank you for sharing your story glad ya here.


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MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | MadMel
offended?
Who cares. If someone is offended by people coming out and talking about suicide and depression and bipolar they can go jump! Im glad you didnt succed in the act! Well done merle! Love ya babe!!


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monyq83
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | monyq83
thank god for that

Im so glad youre still here mate. Who else would I discuss sausage rolls with?

Luv ya hehe - Bent One xo



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angelmum
March 2007 | angelmum
So glad you failed
Just think freaky if you had of succeeded you would never have met me!!! lol  I remember when I was little I used to watch a girl that lived a few doors down train in the park next door, everyday she would practice her shot put and discus throwing and I would sit there and watch.  One day she stopped coming, about a week later she was found hanging from a tree.... I'll never forget her and I always wonder what made her so sad to take her life.... so very very sad.  I know I've said it before but I am so deeply sorry you lost your little brother xxxx


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Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Wendigo
I did that once.

Good to see you are still here.

I made a serious attempt at wiping myself off the face of the planet quite a long time ago now, and I came very close.  I learned one thing about suicide from that experience though.  If you stuff it up it can really leave you stuffed up, and for some people it can be for quite a long time.  I destroyed large chunks of my memory, and became totally disfunctional for a few years after.  I'm okay now though - well, not really, but, it could be worse.



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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | breannababy
I did that once.
hmmm lucky I have nothing upstairs to dammage LOL but I still have on going stomache problems........thankyou for your comment regards Merle


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llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | llmunchkin
A better world with you in it...
I am glad you did not succeed, for we wouldn't have had that insightful piece of advice to help us understand how people feel when they take their own lives.  It may seem selfish to those left behind, however to the person who chooses to do so, it is no whim, and it is a last resort.

It is a brave thing to continue to go on when you feel that you would rather be dead, I think all of you have contributed comments are exceptionally special for sharing your lowest times with the rest of us.


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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | breannababy
A better world with you in it...
I am glad that I didn't succeed now too............I still have my bad days,but I have my little girl that keeps my head on straight.I know it is not easy for us to share our bad experiences but in doing so we are helping others so they need not go through our situations unsupported.Thankyou for your comment regards Merle


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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | nell18-3
Suicide
When I was feeling suicidal when recovering from  my depression (still am recovering! Do you ever recover??) I used to believe I was draining everyone and they would be better off without me. It wasn't so much a cry for help more a case of being overwhelmed with self pity! When the arguments used to get me down I used to get in my car and drive to this quiet area to think. I used to just imagine horrible things like driving my car into the wall opposite.
I am so thankful i didn't give in, even when life is hard it is better than no life at all. Life is a great gift. We should always be looking for the best in our life. I look at my kids now and I am so thankful God dragged me out of my self pity and shifted my focus onto them not me.
Suicide is an ugly thing, and although we are not responsible for the thoughts in our head and the confused mess we become, we should always treasure our life.



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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | breannababy
Suicide
Thanks Helen for your comment.I agree suicide is an ugly thing,and I believe the attempts or successes are perpetrated by people so overwhelmed by their horrible circumstances and or lack of support systems that they just cannot see a light at the end of the tunnel.When depression enters into the equation it becomes more complicated for the victims to even see a helping hand when it is offered,often rational thought is non existent.I know from my own experience I was any thing but rational.regards Merle


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ssedgar
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | ssedgar
Thankyou

Thankyou for sharing your painful story. i have had my partner threaten that he would comit sucide when i had left him before he booked into rehab. It was one of my biggest fears, when i was deciding weather or not to leave but in the end i realised my boys lives were worth so much i couldn't stay unless he got help. I know now that this was just a threat and he thought i would just come crawling back if he threatened suicide but i remained strong and he is now getting help.

Thanks for sharing your story not many people know a lot about sucide and they blame the person for killing themselves. we need more people like you who have attempted suicide but have been luck enought o live to tell their story and help others



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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | breannababy
Thankyou
I become soooo angry with men or women that threaten to suicide just to get their way,it reminds me of children threatening to hold their breath and stamping their feet........This behaviour leads people in general to have little or no empathy for suicide victims or the attempted ones.I know of a few instances of threatened suicides going wrong and the perpetrator actually succeeding,I knew the people involved and They truly did not want to die!Thankyou for your comment.I believe that reading my story may also help some gain a better perspective in this tragic matter regards Merle


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lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | lexiw
Hi merle

I had the same thought a few times while I was going through my nervous breakdown about everybody being better off without me even my girls but funnily enough it was my girls who kept me going. I would look at what choices were left for my girls if I did do it and realized between a drug addict abusive father and a physically and emotionally abusive grandmother my girls only had me and I was best for them.

 You are an amazing person for being able to write this article for all to read. It has made me feel bad about my feelings towards a friend recently about him " selfishly " taking his life. I won't think that again about anyone.

  Lexi xxx



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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | breannababy
Hi merle
Don't feel bad Lexi,Your feelings were very normal.I Believe it is our kids sometimes that make us our strongest,I just feel so sad to hear people saying suiciders are selfish.I really disagree so strongly......My ex threatened suicide if I left him......people who threaten don't usually unless it is by accident.There is a difference between talking about it and threatening to do it.I left him and guess what he is still here.This is not the case all the time though.There are so many amazing strong parents and women on this site and it is my privilege to have got to know you all.Lexi you are one of them MMWWAAHHH thank-you for being you hugs Merle


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MelodyS
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | MelodyS
Suicide

Merle, Thanks for your candid post. 

My now 12 yo son lives with bipolar disorder and has been in depressive states where he talked of, planned suicide.  Those times were before his diagnosis.  I thank God he did not.  There are no words to describe the feelings of fear, hurting for him that filled me during his dark moments.  Now that he is under proper care of a psychiatrist and on proper medication, these dark moments are much more rare.

I encourage anyone with such thoughts of hopelessness that your life seems best if it were ended to please seek help.  We love you.  Depression is rooted in a chemical imbalance; there is help and hope.



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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | breannababy
Suicide
You know the scary thing is my first thoughts of death was when I was around 4 I first started thinking of how to do it when I was 9 after particularly traumatic episodes with my father.I did not get diagnosed until I was mid to late 20's.I am so glad your son is getting treatment.It is hard to get the professionals to diagnose prepubescent kids.Mainly because of the onset of hormones etc.I think any one with suicidal thoughts to obtain helpline numbers and stick them by the phone,and try and seek relevant help as soon as possible.thankyou for your comment regards Merle


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LaRenae
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | LaRenae
I did finally
I did finally at one point say to myself ... "I will show 'them' " , " I will live" , "nothing will be solved by me not being here, because if I am gone .... nothing changes " ....... I lived on .... and many years later, I have my boy .... the purpose as to why I am still here ! I remind myself everyday ........Best regards and lots of support , from Lisa


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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | breannababy
I did finally
I know exactly where you are coming from and I too have a daily reminder and sometimes when things are particularly bad  she is the only thing besides my brother's memory that keeps me going.MY support goes out to you as well thank-you for your comment regards Merle


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cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cookclan
I fear it every day
I fear this on a daily basis with Aidan sometimes it so consumes me or ken that we actually spy on him where he is and who he is with Sometimes he gets soooo down he just goes to the park and plays on the swings alone......We have found him before just sitting on the side of the road counting cars..... I am not sure if this is just being alone and thinking or thinking about making it all go away.... He has never said that he actually wants to kill himself but he has said I just want to sleep and take all the crap away which I suppose is something similar...... It is something that I do worry about but am very aware of his moods these days and I act accordingly to the best of my ability any way... Great insight Merle mwah.......


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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | breannababy
I fear it every day
Angie you and Ken are doing all you can for Aiden,I know sometimes he does want to be alone.......however for you and his Dad,looking in you wont know a lot of times when to step back or when to step in a lot of the time.I think whilst he is on his meds and having you both looking over him he has a great chance of learning to cope with bipolar.It does get easier with age and one good thing,he cant get pregnantLOL It is hell for bipolar women coping with all those hormones and their disorder.Just remember I am always here for you and AIDEN if you ever need me.MMWWAAHH


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madchanny
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | madchanny
wow merle, well said
that was a touching story, and great piece of advice, thanks for sharing this it has opened my eyes.
luv channy xox


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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | breannababy
wow merle, well said
It is so difficult for people who have never experienced the depths of depression that we do to understand why suicide is even contemplated let alone succeeded in.I hoped that by me seeing both sides first hand that I might help every-one to understand a little bit better.Thank-you for your comment regards MERLE


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