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Violence Towards Your Child

Anonymous Author (January 2007)

I regularly take my son (7months old) to our local playgroup, which he really enjoys, and I think it is good for him to see/meet other kids and learn to play and share with them.

There is one child there, a toddler, who likes to hit my son

on the head with toys for some reason. This happens almost every time we go. The child's mother is aware, but does not discipline her son, not even telling him not to do it!

Last time we went, within minutes of arriving her son ran over and started hitting my son on the head with a toy car. She said to me quite blankly "my son likes to hit your boy for some reason", but did not try to stop him, or apologise.

When her son does this, I put my hand over my son's head to stop the toy hitting him, and I pick him up or move him.

I don't feel I have the right to discipline her son by telling him not to hit my son, as that should be up to her as his mother, but what can I do? She is not stopping her son, and it is beginning to make our time at playgroup not enjoyable.


There is always one...

I have encountered these terror children in all sorts of places. From the park, Fun Factory, playgroup and even the change rooms. They are the child who is violent towards your child. They might hit, kick, bite, tease. throw things at your child or snatch. Now what should you do?

1. If the mother/father isn't aware, make them. Tell them their child is hurting or bullying your child and can they please do something. Most parents, and I say most will stop it happening.

2. If they still wont stop it, remove your child. Praise them for not getting violent back and tell them that the other child is naughty. You need to make a big deal of this and I do it loudly so the child and parent can hear.

3. Still happening? This is when it really gets frustrating. Personally I tell the child off. I say "NO, stop that now". I tell them its NOT nice and I will throw in something like "Now say sorry please". Most of the time the child is so shocked that you have told them off that they will stop.

4. Mother/Father got something to say about that? Tell them its not ok and they wouldn't let their child be bullied. And YES it is bullying. It will only get worse. If they were good parents they wouldn't allow this to happen anyways.

Do NOT ever let your child be bullied. No matter how young the children are its not ok. Your the sole protector of your baby and should protect and nurture him/her at all times. Just think if it was your child bullying. You wouldn't allow it so take action.
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Melons
Yesterday 2am | Melons
Re: Violence Towards Your Child

I'm quite taken aback by this so called advice. My son learnt to hit and snatch toys at a playgroup and I would be disgusted if another parent told him he was naughty and made him feel bad. I'm all for letting the parent know face to face but yelling things out for all to hear including the child can be quite detrimental in the end. If this particular child doesn't get reprimanded from their mother then they probably don't know they are doing anything wrong and getting at yelled by a stranger will only hurt that child more than help the situation. Age IS a factor. My son is not bad or nasty he doesn't even Know the meaning of the word. I always take my child away from the situation and let him know it's not the right thing to do. At such a young age it can not be called bullying because the child only knows what it wants and will not know how to deal with the situation and their feelings. these things are learnt and developed as they get older.



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      KathrynR1402
Yesterday 2pm | KathrynR1402
Re: Violence Towards Your Child

I dont think the Advice here is giving a green light to tell other people's children off (at least, that's how I read it); just to tell off another child when their parents are abdicating resposibility for disciplining their own child, so that the child (and your own) gets some idea that their behaviour is socially unacceptable.

If the parent is doing their best to discipline a child who is going thru a bad day/rough stage, then I wouldnt advocate wading in, even if your toddler had been hurt. At the Toddler Group I help run we had a mum the other day leave in tears because a couple of childminders told her son off when she was already on her way for the 100th time to tell him off, and I remember another friend being in tears years ago when another childminder in the group called her son a devil for pulling her childs hair. This week it was my DD2 who was pushing, grabbing and yelling. I really ought to have got that T-shirt (mentioned below in 2007 for DD1) printed - going to need it again <sigh> here we go again. She is just expressing the Toddlers Rule of Ownership, but like her big sister she's not a shrinking violet about it. Big sister learned the lesson by 5 thank goodness - it was a long 3 years!

I agree, when they are little they are not thinking thru consequences enough or understanding other peoples feelings to call it bullying. When it's happening to your child (especially if like me you were bullied as a child) it can feel like bullying, when filtered thru your adult understanding, but when it's your child doing the barging around, grabbing toys, hitting, biting, yelling in faces, you come to realise it's just normal toddler behaviour of the far-too-noticeable type. I was chatting to an old friend today who told me with her third child she gave up going to Toddler Groups as he was too rough and she was fed up with all the comments. I find that so sad. But at least when it's your third you have some friends already, and some confidence and perspective from earlier children. When it's your first it can be terribly isolating.



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Ravenheart
August 23rd | Ravenheart
Re: Violence Towards Your Child

great advice

xoxo



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natelz1
August 23rd | natelz1
Re: Violence Towards Your Child

Nice work, i agreee



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TaBBZZZ
July 31st | TaBBZZZ
Re: Violence Towards Your Child

it doesnt get any easier as the child gets older either. my daughter is in the 1st grade and there are two girls in her grade that like to bully the other kids. my daughter has come home many time and told me that these girls are constantly pushing her and her friends over and they are just plain nasty. one of the children even went as far as to tell my friends daughter that her mother would come and kill her and her mother if she dobbed on her (makes me wonder what sort of upbringing this child has). i have spoken to the teachers about this but as one of the girls is 'teachers pet' so to say nothing is done about it. i spoke to the principle and he went straight to the parents and told them this must stop.

i am all for giving children and their parents the benifit of the doubt and trying to sort things out in a civil nature but when it comes to your child being picked on constantly how can we be expected to sit back and watch. 



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Alyson
July 15th | Alyson
Re: Violence Towards Your Child

I agree wholeheartedly without dispute. Perfect answer, It's the mother who has a problem, she will hurt her child by allowing him to behave this way.



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mum2alittleboy
July 1st | mum2alittleboy
Re: Violence Towards Your Child

Me too. I had one at playgroup who didn't even watch her child. He would hit and kick and bite and stood on kids hands on purpose, he was 3. He bit my son the one day so I made a really big deal about moving my son away from him whenever he came near us. Saying "we are going to move away from this naughty boy". She doesn't come anymore finally and no one liked her. Parents should learn to control their children! It is normal for kids to do these things sometimes but when it is regular and the parents don't attempt to stop it it's just not right.



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nabutters
July 1st | nabutters
Re: Violence Towards Your Child

i totally agree with ur advice due to experience myself in this similar situation........

cheers na xx



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JustineM
April 22nd | JustineM
Re: Violence Towards Your Child

wow, Did you talk with the organiser of the play group about his? I think you should before there is an all out battle. Seriously.



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2BeautifulGirls
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2008 | 2BeautifulGirls
However.....

That is great advice.  I was bullied in High School and it can have a detrimental effect on you're perception of people as you get older.  Thankfully, so far, my child has not encountered this but I have spoken to her about it. 

My daughter is a gentle soul with a determined streak but she has never hurt another child intentionally and I don't think she's capable.  The odd occasions she has accidently hit another child, she has appologised straight away.

Glad to hear that someone has voiced this.

Michelle



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monyq83
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | monyq83
Hmm
I think we might have another bug, I seem to be having to re-vote on peoples advice, Im sure Ive already voted on this one lol


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KathrynR1402
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | KathrynR1402
I agree, but....

Your advice is spot on. As a child I was bullied, and I can still remember so clearly how it felt. However, please if you do see a parent trying to follow Mel's advice, be as encouraging as possible even though your child has been upset.

I have a very physical big-for-her-age act-without-thinking daughter, and I think I really ought to have a T-shirt printed with "Sorry my child hurt your child" on the front and "naughty step NOW! You must play MORE GENTLY!" on the back. I have been saying these two things ad nauseum for nearly 3 years now, and she IS getting better. But we are starting to lose friends over it, which hurts a lot. She's not malicious, just rough. And for the record, I am more than happy to tell her off, especially if I am out of earshot or didnt see the misdemeanour. It scares her as she's not expecting it, whereas if mum says no, well, she's a bit immune to that, arent they all!

Some kids just take a long time to learn how to play properly, and have to learn the hard way. It is not always a sign of bad parenting.

worn out and weary,

Kathryn



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OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
Great article Mel

I don't know why it has taken me so long to find this article....guess I'm getting a little slow in my minti age.

I love your attitude mel, I really do.....I just wish everyone had the same...

Top article!!

Lavinia



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Kuristima
4.70 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Kuristima
Violence in children

I agree with you. Some children just learn later (sometimes WAY later) that violence is not good. Some think of it as play and others just think it's mean. I believe it is the parents role to let their child know this behavior is not acceptable. Unfortunatley we have to always watch out for our children which includes watching others children at the same time.

One example is in the beginning my husbands children from his first marriage were both mean to my daughter who is older than them. They tear up her toys, steal from her, accuse her of things she didn't do, etc. Not so bad now but that is because I turned into a HAWK and watch every move. We can't always do that though so I know what you mean. Keep protecting that sweet baby!

~Kuri



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MummyAmy
4.59 (Excellent) | January 2007 | MummyAmy
It will work...... sometimes.
This is great advice unless it's in a childcare centre where you are not allowed to confront the parent! Like at school now, confronting a parent is not allowed and can cause some major problems. Luckily the parent is at play group but remember child care has different rules!


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Tadexpress
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Tadexpress
I agree
If this mother isnt doing anything then you do have the right, simply firmly say stop/no (and I dont give a rats No is an effective word that should be used). I also agree that if mum says something then you have the right to reply that her allowing her son to bully others and get away with it is going to catch up to him sooner or later. Moving your child out of harms way is essential but I wouldnt be quiet about it, if you are you could be perceived as condoning the its only kids.... I dont care what the age of this child is the fact that he recognises your child as defenless enough for ongoing attacks means he's old enough to be reprimanded.


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m1o1l1l1y1
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | m1o1l1l1y1
violence towards your child

You know what, if this mother is not disciplining her child I think you have EVERY RIGHT to say something to her child. Even something as mild as "No, don't do that you are hurting ---" may be enough. I would also make sure you say this loud enough for the mother to hear you so hopefully she will take notice.

I personally have no issue with telling other people's children off if their parents aren't especially if someone is being hurt and would fully support someone else telling off my children if I was unaware of what was happening.



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NINJAFAIRY
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | NINJAFAIRY
Communal Parenting

Yeah - I'm one of those parents who tell other people's kids off. Communal Parenting I call it.

After all, reinforcing the messages of good parenting and community expectation is essential.



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Omegastar
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Omegastar
arrgh
parents that don't do anything about thier kids bullying really tick me off. My daughter is quite a bit older, nine going on ten but we have had many talks about this. She knows that she is never to hit another person or call names etc. I was bullied as a child and am very adament about teaching her not to. She knows that that behaviour will not be tolerated on any level, however I also have her in a self defense class and she knows that she is allowed to defend herself if there are no other options. I just can't believe that parents let thier kids get away with crap like that.


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      MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | MadMel
arrgh
Yes but unfortunately not everyone is a fantastic parent like us hehe :)


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wildrose
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | wildrose
Agree
I agree with you. I don't want my children to hurt/bully other kids, so I don't accept other children to hurt and bully my children either. I told my son if someone bully him at school, I told him to see the teacher....and never ever start the hitting.


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Jessgore
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Jessgore
Well said....
Totally agree with if the parents won't do something about it I will. I often find that if the parent of the child that is getting bullied says something to the child being bullied the bully gets a shock and will often run to mum or dad. Yeah then they take notice...

Thankfully I have only ever had to explain to the parent what is going on, and thankfully I have only come across parents that have been kind and told their kids that they should not have done what they did in the first place..

By all means if I can't see what my kid is doing (which would not be normal as I am always watching), tell me I will deal with it I promise.


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      Jessgore
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Jessgore
Well said....
sorry that should read if the parent says something to the child who is being the bully... Opps


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llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | llmunchkin
Well said
It is good advice for a frustrating situation.  It is a good non confrontational yet firm way of handling the situation.  I have been trying to teach Jaydee to duck and fend and back off in these situations too.


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Bambie30
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Bambie30
Right On
I totally agree these are the reasons why my children stay at home with me as long as I can I have had to much trouble with daycares and my children being the ones bitten or hit because I taught my children not to hurt other kiddies. School I am yet to deal with as my 3rd youngest son starts this year and after pre-school I know he will be picked on. He is very quiet.


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cindyb
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cindyb
Bullies
And when I said setting "them" up, I mean the perputrator, not the victim.


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cindyb
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cindyb
Yes!

I cannot tolerate parents who sit back and seemingly allow their child to have free reign over your child. It is not only hurting your child, but setting them up to become bullies in later life. I am sure a child's behaviour (with exception of course to children with medically diagnosed behavioural difficulties, and even these ones can be encouraged to find alternative means of interacting etc) in school stems directly from parents' attitutes in allowing their children to be bossy and overbearing. It is not about them being assertive and confident, it is agression.

Good article, a heads up for the not so confident Mum's out there, and a reminder to the rest.

Thanks.



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Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Wendigo
Excellent!
NOt just the advice, but your attitude and willingness to stand up for what is right.  Good on you.  If only everyone had that attitude!


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TheMentorMom
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | TheMentorMom
Well Said
Well said, MadMel.  I have used several of your tips over the years and they have worked well for me.  I see that the child in this example is an infant.  For the parents of children with toddlers and preschool age children, I suggest modeling for the child the words they can say when this happens to them.  I had to do this for my daughter when she was young.  She was quite timid and pushy kids sent her right over to me for intervention.  I would tell her to tell the child "stop it" or "I don't like it when you do that."  After a lot of practicing, she eventually incorporated this into her vocabulary.  Believe me, she is no pushover now!  I'm rambling...well written article :)


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cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cazza
Violence towards Children.
I absolutely agree with what you are saying. Im one of those mums that have zero tolerance against bullying towards my children or other children.I personally always say to the child if they are hurting mine or others you are to treat others as you would like to be treated, they sometimes look at me with a blank stare, but usually it makes them think about it, this is easier for older children. With the little ones im not afraid to walk up to the parent and say that im concerned with their child behaviour towards mine, most of the time they apoligise. So keep up the good advise.