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Listeria and what NOT to eat while pregnant

Anonymous Author (January 2007)
Ive read articles on foods NOT to eat while your pregnant, like fish and things like that, Ive eated fish and things since ive been preg, and now im terrified that ive hurt my baby!!!

Pregnant women and other at-risk groups should see their doctor promptly about
any flu-like illness. It is advisable for pregnant woman to be aware of foods associated with an increased listeria risk.


Now you are eating for two.  That doesn't mean double the food, but rather to be more particular about WHAT we eat.  Everything we eat, and everything we don't eat, has an effect upon our health and the healthy development of the baby inside.  Eating is something to do thoughtfully and not just to fill (the growing) belly.

You may eat more food, at least at first.  I was always famished at the beginning of my pregnancies but as my belly grew, even though I might have felt hungry, I also felt FULL - full of baby.  As the baby takes up space, smaller meals or grazing throughout the day is best for most of us.  Trust your body and how you feel and listen to your cravings carefully.  If you're craving a milkshake, for example, it's probably that you need calcium instead of an empty calorie milkshake from a fast food place. 

While pregnant, it's just safer to avoid eating:
  • Most Fish, except that the baby needs Omega 3's for proper brain development and we need it for our health.  The problem is that there is Mercury in fish due to the toxins put in our waters. 

Mercury can cause nerve damage to the baby in the belly so just be careful and cautious when and if eating fish.  Babies exposed to high levels of mercury during pregnancy have exhibited delayed walking, talking, inability to speak, brain damage, mental retardation, blindness, seizures, cerebral palsy, altered muscle tone, or deep tendon reflexes.  There is also a link with mercury and adverse effects on the developing reproductive organs and spontaneous abortions and even still births.  Low level exposures could cause learning disabilities.

To understand which fish is "safe" to eat, look at fish that have the least amount of mercury. Even "safe" fish have some levels of mercury. 

It is best to avoid most fish and get the omega 3 essential fatty acids from DHA or high omega eggs (from hens fed a high omega diet) and safer fish including wild (NOT farm-raised) Alaskan or Pacific (NOT Atlantic) Salmon.  You can also get these EFAs through fish oil or supplemental pills, but I'm not a big fan of additional pills and you have to be careful that the fish oil or pills do not have high levels of mercury too.

  • Ready-to-eat seafood such as smoked fish and smoked mussels, and oysters.  Actually, it's probably a good idea to pass on the shellfish altogether.
  • Raw seafood such as sashimi or sushi.  Don't eat it raw.  The only thing you should be eating raw is your generous servings of fruit and vegetables.
  • Pre-prepared and store-made salads, including coleslaw because these things can carry the bacteria listeria
  • Alfalfa Sprouts are dangerous because they can carry e-coli bacteria and listeria.  Alfalfa sprouts also contain the amino acid canavanine which is an anti-nutrient that can inhibit the natural immune system so they are best avoided anyway.
  • Leftovers - save those for the husband.  It's just safer to skip those unless they are from something you made and you know that you got them into the refrigerator promptly after it cooled down.
  • Of course avoid raw or undercooked eggs for fear of salmonella.  However, many suggest raw egg yellows too and in that case make sure they are fresh and splurge on the High Omega Eggs.  And remember that all studies indicate that the real salmonella danger is in fast food and breakfast restaurants where they may not keep eggs at the proper temperature and therefore allow bacteria to grow.  Therefore, you are probably safe at home, especially if you know your supplier and are getting fresh eggs however, this is such a big risk for such a little benefit, that you may want to play it safe and cook them through.
  • Same goes for meat, make sure it is cooked and not rare.
  • Avoid processed meats like sliced deli meats which can contain nitrates and bacteria.
  • Pre-cooked meat products which are eaten without further cooking or heating, such as pâté, sliced deli meat, hot dogs, and cooked diced chicken (as used in sandwich shops) can carry unsafe bacteria.  Only eat these if they are steaming hot when you get it.  And most deli meats have nitrates which should be avoided anyway.
  • Don't drink unpasteurized milk or foods (cheese) made from unpasteurized milk.  Ultra pasteurized milk is also not good period.  
  • Pass on the soft serve ice-creams and instead opt for the scooped ice cream on occasion. The soft serve machines do not get cleaned out regularly and can be a breeding ground for bacteria like listeria which can linger there.  Listeria can cause you a stomach ache but can actually kill the unborn baby so it's a frightening bacteria.  Hard ice creams and yogurts are fine as well as regular yoghurt.
  • Avoid soft cheeses, such as Brie, Feta, Camembert, Blue Cheeses, Ricotta, Mexican cheeses including Queso Blanco Fresco, and Asadero.  These are safe if cooked and served hot, but I suggest avoiding brie and camembert since those are just usually warmed not really cooked.  Hard and semi-soft cheeses from pasteurized organic non-rBGH milk are safe.
  • Avoid caffeine and even decaf coffee.   Coffee has been associated with early miscarriage, even decaf.  If you must have coffee, it's said that a cup a day won't do harm or better to move to Green Tea but ask your midwife or doctor about that first. 
  • Alcoholic beverages - I know they say a glass on occasion is fine, but is the risk really worth it?  Best to avoid all alcohol, and we're not just talking hard liquor, this includes beer.
  • And obviously stop smoking and avoid second-hand smoke.
  • Listeria is a form of food poisoning which rarely affects healthy people.
  • Those at high risk include pregnant women, newborn infants, the elderly, and those with weak immune systems.
  • Listeria is a form of food poisoning which rarely affects healthy people. However, the disease can be fatal in unborn children, newborn babies, and those with weak immune systems.
  • Listeria is different from other food poisons because it grows at fridge temperature - rather than room temperature like other food borne illnesses.
  • Pregnant women are at 20 times more risk of listeria than healthy people, and one third of cases of listeriosis occur in pregnancy women. People with AIDS are at 300 times more risk of serious illness from listeria than the general population.
  • Listeria causes a flu-like illness with a fever, headache, and sometimes nausea and diarrhoea. The illness normally strikes within two to eight weeks after eating contaminated food, but it can take up to 10 weeks to become ill.
  • Pregnant women infected with listeria can experience fever and chills and should contact their doctor as soon as possible because drug treatment can prevent a spontaneous abortion or stillbirth.
  • Antibiotics are given to pregnant women who have been infected with listeria. This can prevent the infection passing to the foetus.

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peace613
Wednesday | peace613
Re: Listeria and what NOT to eat while pregnant

If only we left the fish that clean the ocean in the oceans and lakes.  This is great advice.

Thanks



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Vampy
November 22nd | Vampy
Re: Listeria and what NOT to eat while pregnant

OMG this has completely freaked me out. What am i meant to eat??????? What if i have eaten the above not good food????? Will my baby be ok???



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detelina
September 5th | detelina
Re: Listeria and what NOT to eat while pregnant

hi,

I'm lina from Bulgaria. I just wanted to tell you to be really carefull, because I already was infected with listeria and I lost my baby(20 week).

So be really carefull what do you eat you can make compromise with 9 months from your life , Im sure!!!

Also I have announce to all daddies: support your girl, she neeed your support don't push her to cook!~



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emmie
April 2008 | emmie
Re: Listeria and what NOT to eat while pregnant

Great article

Thanks for sharing

Emz



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dannii17
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2008 | dannii17
Re: Listeria and what NOT to eat while pregnant

I havnt touched fish since being pregnant and i miss it alot..I still eat deli meat sometimes cause i cant eat a salad sandwich or roll without ham in it.I only eat the meat teh day i buy it and i get them to cut it fresh and i still smell it to make sure its fresh and make sure its not gooey but thats something ive always done.Great article.

Dannii xxo



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Panno
March 2008 | Panno
Re: Listeria and what NOT to eat while pregnant

wow that is a long list i knew about the fish  thing but i have been eating meat from the deli,.... and now that i have read this im like OMG what have i done ...... thats something i didnt know about BUT WHAT CAN I EAT  .... ????

luv Panno



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      angieh
March 2008 | angieh
Re: Listeria and what NOT to eat while pregnant

Nothing - you have to go on a diet or fast for the 9 months. Just kidding!

Try to avoid processed foods and uncooked foods like cheese and raw fish (sushi)... and you should be alright.



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missnickley
November 2007 | missnickley
Re: Listeria and what NOT to eat while pregnant
Fantastic article!


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madchanny
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | madchanny
didn't know there was so much to look out for!
wow thats a long list, i went with my gut instincts when i was pregnant, avoided deli meats, never ate fish to start with and stayed away from cats,
i had this huge craving for a kebab so i asked them to cook the meat in a pan (being more safe than sorry)
they understood that i was pregnant so they cooked the meat thoroughly in front of me, so nice!
xx channy


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forskitt2006
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | forskitt2006
mayonnaise...

i love mayo with my chips...so after much searching i found that hellmans are the only brand that use pasturised (not sure on spelling) eggs which are safe for us preggy people to eat....just thought someone might like to know...

yum yum x x x



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      bennyboy
November 2007 | bennyboy
Re: mayonnaise...
my wife loves mayo and has completely avoided it since becoming preggas,she will be so pleased to know she can have hellmans.Thank you.(extra brownie points for me,Ha ha)


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blackwidowkate
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | blackwidowkate
Me again
Hi
After reading this article again to see if i missed anything i wish i hadn't.......now there is nothing left i can eat even not pregnant.....its alll baaaaaaaaaaaadddddd
Ewww germs everywhere and bugs.....Locks self in protective bubble  

Sorry
Luv Deb


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blackwidowkate
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | blackwidowkate
OMG
Hi
You know stuff like this really scares me cause my ob/gyn told me what food to avoid......
with Jalan
Makes me wonder now how Megan and Rowan survived to be born.......makes me wonder how any of us survived.....
Wonder if technology and research really are good things or not

With what I was told not to eat there wasn't much left for me.....good thing she was born a good size hey.....11lb4oz......with nothing left for me to eat 
Sad hey

But after he told me could i take the risk and feel ok IF something went wrong.....NO

Luv Deb


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crazy-mumma
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | crazy-mumma
Common sense aproach

Very informative. However like anything in life I think we all need to use common sence. I do not think it is healthy to completely cut out a food source eg Fish whilst pregnant. Make informed choices ie, try to avoid dep sea fish that have long lives and hence accumulate more toxins, instead of making sweeping rules. I was very strict in my first pregnancy but used more common sence with my second.

Good to get one thinking though.



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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | breannababy
Well done
This is a very informative  article that will help a lot of Mums out there.hugs Merle


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LaRenae
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | LaRenae
can the fish !

This article that was posted is excellent ! I just wanted to add a bit ...

Most canned fish, especially tuna, is very high in toxic mercury. You are not even supposed to feed canned tuna to kitties because they are little bitty bodies and the concentration of mercury is toxic to them ...

Toxic produce ... OMG .... we have had many scares recently regarding imported produce ... especially root and leaf veggies and especially regarding green onions and spinach ... produce may grow great in poop (literally) , but it is nasty to eat because those things absorb the poop, so initially you are eating poop !

Raw most anything ... anything undercooked ... anything "rare" ... mainly meats ... avoid !

I have learned a lot from this post and really appreciate it !

And I very much agree with the idea that eating for two does not necessarily mean eating double but it means eating healthier ... because what I eat, baby eats !

Love this post, thanks ! Lisa

 



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exquisite-flower
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | exquisite-flower
Comprehensive and thorough
Great woek MadMel.  You put a lot of time into this and it is a fantastic piece of work.  I for one really enjoyed reading it and learning from it also.
Peace
EF.x 


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lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | lexiw
Great info
I think you answered the question ver thoroughly.


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