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Abusive Relationships - Some Questions Answered.

Anonymous Author (January 2007)

Follow on article to 'Abusive Relationships - Do  you know the danger signals?' which I hope you will take time to read  prior to reading this article...

I was asked a few interesting questions when I wrote the first part of this Article which I am attempting to

answer here. They included

  1. Do I think about whether an abuser might want to change?
  2. Where can an abuser go for help?
  3. What about Women who abuse?

 

Q1) Do I think about whether an abuser might want to change?

A1) There are times they probably really do feel sorry for what they’ve done, you know… like when they’re sitting in a prison cell, afraid of what might happen to them. Knowing that they are probably going to be locked up for years!

This is called Remorse which is an emotional expression of personal regret that is, the emotion felt by the injurer after he or she has injured.

While in Prison my Ex sent several letters to my son, telling him me how sorry he was that things had turned out the way they had, how he had lost everything. He kept going on about how other prisoners were being hurt & how scared he was, but he never once apologized for what he had actually done to his family. Each week the letters would be the same filled with sad tales of woe; his cell was too small, he had no money, etc. Despite the fact that he was undertaking mandatory counselling the man never really got it that in order to truly be sorry for ones actions you need to have ‘follow through’. He got re-married about a month into his prison term & for awhile his new wife would keep ringing my son while drunk, begging him to go see his father.

There is a big difference between remorse & repentance. According to wikipedia Repentance is the feeling & act in which one recognizes & tries to right a wrong, or gain forgiveness from someone that they wronged. It always includes an admission of guilt, & also includes at least one of: a solemn promise or resolve not to repeat the offence; an attempt to make restitution for the wrong, or in some way to reverse the harmful effects of the wrong where possible.

In each of my ex’s letters to my son he tried to manipulate him… My son read some of those letters to me; (I think he wanted me to understand why he was so screwed up...) In each one there were extremely graphic descriptions of things that were happening to the other prisoners… Personally I think it was my ex’s way of saying to my son ‘Look what your mother’s done to me, feel sorry for me, etc. Thankfully the prison authorities intervened & my ex was told he was not to try to contact us again.

So do I think an abuser wants to change… probably at that ‘moment’ when they look back & see their partner huddled in a corner in fear, bleeding… bones broken… or occasionally when their child shakes in fear when they are called into the room. I mean they are human after all. (Or are they?) My ex would occasionally say to me that that he didn’t want to do the things he did, but no matter how much he might have wanted to change his old behaviour kept coming back. The underlying problems need to be addressed & in order for this to be done the abuser must really want to change.

Even with the abuser undergoing counselling the destructive force he has imprinted on the victim’s life, leaves them never able to truly respect, trust or feel safe with that person again…

Q2) Where can an abuser go for help?

There are many places an abuser can go for help. If they are serious your family Doctor can refer them to a good Psychiatrist trained in these matters. He would also know the appropriate organizations in your area that can assist.

 The question I would ask is more Does Counselling Help an Abuser Change His Ways?

 A good response from the ‘Emerge’ Counselling & Education to Stop Domestic Violence website

http://www.emergedv.com/abuserfaq.html#2)%20DOES%20BATTERER%20INTERVENTION%20WORK?

Q) DOES ABUSER EDUCATION WORK?

A) This question is commonly asked, but does not have a simple answer. Abuser education programs may work for those people who take the information and use it to stop harming others.

A comparable question might be 'Does education and treatment for drinking and driving offenders really work?' The answer would also be similar: someone who truly wants to stop drinking will work to do so. Someone who doesn't take such services seriously is at greater risk to re-offend.

Q3) What about Women who abuse?

A3) The final comment I need to make is this… We often only think of men as the Abusers, but women can be abusers to…

The following interesting comments are taken from an article entitled ‘Women As Verbal Abusers’ © 2000 Michele Toomey, PhD

 http://www.mtoomey.com/verbalabusers.html

A verbally abusive woman, is a bold woman who has dared to rebel.

Very often those women who have the fire to rebel have also had the misfortune of having abuse and violence to rebel against. This is a formula for becoming an abuser as well. Knowing only the pattern of attack or counterattack, rebellious abused women learn the lesson of destroy or be destroyed. Having rejected the role of victim, they frequently take the only other role available in this destructive duel, that of victimizer. Since they are often not the physically strongest opponent, the weapon of choice of abusive women is usually verbal assault, and they often become skilled slashers and crushers of spirits.

Another interesting website states that some 65% of women reported that they regularly hit their husbands. Of course no real man can complain that his wife is assaulting him as he will not be believed. http://www.canlaw.com/rights/whokills.htm

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LaRenae
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | LaRenae
abuse
That is a fantastic and very informative article ! I tell you what : our tongues can be just as destructive as our fists ! Especially to little one's ears ! No child ever needs to hear the arguing and hateful words that can be said in front of them .... or even to them out of frustration ... Wow ! Nicely done !


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Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Wendigo
Everyone is different.

Well done!

Not every abuser means to be, many suffer from mental illness (including addictions) and when that is the case, they can get help and change their ways.  However, when it is just a selfish power-trip that they are on, the chances of them changing their attitudes are almost nil.

Women are most commonly verbally abusive, but as you said, 65% admit hitting their husbands.  That's most of them.  I've met a few in my life that were very physically abusive to their partners.  People laugh at the cinema when a comedy gag in a movie revolves around a woman slapping a man, or cheer when a woman stands up for herself and slaps a man.  That is so the wrong attitude.  If we are going to feel disgusted when a man hits a woman, we should feel equally disgusted when a woman hits a man.

There are better ways of dealing with problems than violence and we should never accept anyone hitting anyone, except in self-defence - and that doesn't include defending against a verbal attack.



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | nell18-3
Abuse
Thanks Raine
You have a fantastic way of putting things so clearly. You are bang on with the difference between remorse and repentence, my ex is doing exactly the same, originally he was telling everyone he had hurt me and was sorry and wanted to make a fresh start, when this didn't get me back (mainly as I lived for 9 weeks with that same forgive me speech every morning) its like he has wanted to break me spiritually, emotionally and physically, grind me right into the ground to get me back????? Why would they ever think that is going to work.

I know where you are coming with your son too, my boys regularly come back to me saying Dad has been crying all weekend again about how much he loves you and how he can't understand why you are putting us all through this!!! They have no sense of true repentence at all, they have moved onto their next victim, he can't hurt me directly so lets mess up the kids!!! These men are evil. I once at a counselling session with him with Relate asked him if he was ill? He said he had seen a dr who said he was definitely not ill, I replied well now I know. my theory had always been he had to be either mentally ill or completely evil.

You really are amazing and I try and look ahead by reading testimonies by women exactly like you, how have lived by life and have survived it.

My counsellor regularly tells me I am not a victim of Domestic Violence but I am a SURVIVOR of Domestic Violence. That one word change is very empowering.

I am currently reading a book which I have already plugged several times on this web site but I want as many others as possible to read it. the title is "Why Does He Do That?- Inside the minds of angry and controlling men" written by Lundy Bancroft. It is an awesome book to read, rather difficult at time when things you don't want to really face up to hit home, but it makes you believe for sure that it was them that was the crazy party not You. God Bless Raine xx



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