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Auld Lang Syne

NickysMumMum by NickysMumMum Talking Back(January 2007) (rank 104th)
Whoever knows the meaning of the song 'Auld Lang Syne'? Should old acquaintance be forgot? I don't think so.

As of last year, it's 10 years since I finished high school and I miss my school friends constantly. To cut a long story short, I experienced depression in year
12, living on my own without family. My father was posted at the beginning of the year and they all moved seven hours away. We rarely talked. I was miserable when all my friends focussed on their exams and saw less of me. Till then they were my lifeline. I was sooooo alone. I only just opened up to my psychiatrist about this the other day and it's brought some emotions closer to the surface. Over the years I've repressed a lot.

My best friend throughout high school was J. We were inseparable and shared all of our most intimate secrets. We were the best of friends. At the end of year 12 we had a falling out and, in my depressed state I let her take over all of our friends. They all stayed in contact despite themselves all moving away. I was blown to the wind. I saw J shopping with her mum, as she'd come home for Easter five years ago. She didn't even stop to talk to me. I saw her say to her mum "There's HH" and she just kept walking and didn't glance back. I was mortified. I've never in the last 11 years had my family live close by and am still trying to reconcile a relationship with my dad, rarely get to speak to my mum because of her mental illness so basically am pretty lonely. Friends always meant the world to me but after high school....... I just felt so betrayed.

i find it difficult to make and keep friends now. After all if you can't have a good relationship with your own parents how can you nurture friendships. (I know because of my insecure attachments with my own parents, I have an affinity to not develop attachments or develop insecure attachments with others - It' a flaw that I can't help, it comes from my heritage. I can only try).

At Christmas I started to feel more lonely than I have in a long time. I realised that I don't have many friends and began yearning for that closeness again. So i rang a friend who had also fallen out with everyone, R. She's since become friends with J again and told me J was to come home for Christmas and was leaving for Ireland on New Years Eve. I plucked up the courage to call her but there was no answer. I tried until New Years and then gave up. I'd missed my chance. It was too late. And so on New Years Eve, I decided Auld Lang Syne. She's gone, it's time to give up the ghost.

A couple of days after New Years I bumped into two guys from school. One of which is the hubby of another very close friend from school, T. i was extremely lucky to get her number and e-dress. I've been writing to her and am soooooo glad for my luck in relocating her and our reconciliation. I feel like it's the beginning of 10 years of hurt and betrayal lifting from my back. I'm really looking forward to her returning from Paris so we can continue to rebuild our friendship.

Today by another stroke of luck I ran into another school friend who knew that K, my third and most treasured friend was home for Christmas/New Years. He told me that she's leaving tomorrow so I had to get in quick. I rung her tonight. Again I felt that wash of reminiscence, and felt the pain subsiding once again. We're going to get together when she comes back home for Easter and I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!! I'm really excited. To finally after all these years reconcile with two of my most dearest friends, I am in heaven! It's so important to me. I've been alone in the darkness for so long and now I can see the light again.

Unfortunately I may never reconcile with J but it's taken me all this time to realise that she was a fair weather friend. When she saw that things were getting tough for me, she ran a mile. She never understood why my family didn't support me, even though I came so close to her. i lived with her in the beginning and she could never understand why my dad never sent any money and resented me for her wealthy parents supporting me. Realising this I left and payed S+M back for all their kindness. They really were beautiful people to me and J was very lucky to have them as her parents. I know that S knew how much I appreciated their generosity and why I needed to leave. I hoped it might save our friendship. It did........... for a while. But not once the going got tough. I've got a list of grievances as long as my arm the number of times she betrayed and hurt me that year.

So, in reply to my question in the beginning, Auld Lang Syne, should old acquaintance be forgot? Yes, acquaintances and fair weather friends, too.

's Hayley
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I wrote the above advice about a month ago and feel that I absolutely must write some form of retraction of my original sentiments regarding J. I continue to believe that fair-weather friends and acquaintances should be forgot. However I can no longer regard J to be a fair-weather friend. I've come to realise that I am very much to blame for falling out with J, and cannot possibly say that she was a fair weather friend because I hurt her too. It's taken me all these years to realise this. I know that I said I have a list of grievances but she would likely have the same for me, and in my opinion sometimes unless we can learn to forgive but not necessarily forget we will end up very lonely people. A very smart person once said to me that the NAIVE forgive and forget; the BITTER neither forgive nor forget but the WISE forgive but don't forget.I would like for each of us to be wise about how we've been hurt in the past and learn from our mistakes yet not burn our bridges and close ourselves off from ever trusting one another again. I know some people who've been really hurt find it difficult to trust anyone and this is soo difficult for them.

I believe myself to be extremely fortunate to now be in contact with all of my treasured friends from school, including J. We're all mums now (except T). I've re-friended M and P too and they're also mums so we all have so much in common again. I'm loving being part of others' lives again, it really has been quite lonely these past 10 years. I've also resolved to finally do something about our 10 year reunion. All of my friends were the girls who if anyone was to arrange the reunion it would be us. Because we all fell out of contact, and because there were rifts between some of us, this didn't happen. I'm taking it on as it appears that I perhaps have the best network at the moment and I know that I'm up to the task re: time and location because most of my friends are out of the area. It's going to take a lot of work but I can do it. I really want to get as many people from my year involved as I can to ensure everyone feels empowered in making it a night to remember. Because after all, our high school years were some of the best years of our lives and we were lucky to be so close as a year. It was such an unfortunate circumstance that so many of us drifted apart but time is the best healer and it would be nice for everyone to put the past behind them and see their school friends in the light they were seen in school - such treasured friends!

Just wanted to reiterate my retraction about J. I forgive her for all that's happened in the past just as I pray she will forgive me. I was very depressed and was inclined to think the worst of her but I'm to blame too. My mistakes made me a very lonely person, but I'm changing that now and doing my best to make things right again, not just for my friends but myself as well.

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lexiw
September 2007 | lexiw
Re: Auld Lang Syne

thanks for sharing this article

 Lexi xxx

 



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mumof2b
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | mumof2b
Old Friends
I had alot of "friends" in high school and from all those people i keep in touch with only 2 and one of those i have been friends with since we were 4 yrs old. The people that we do stay friends with are people that we make a true connection with and that know us almost better than we know ourselves, these friends accept us for all our bad qualities as well as the good and they aren't afraid to tell us the truth even when we don't want to hear it. 


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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | nell18-3
Lost Touch
I lost touch with all of my school friends and since my separation most of our mutual friends cant believe my ex is capable of what I am saying so all support and help him But my best mate is closer than a sister to me. We met at a church summer camp in our teens and although now she lives in Australia with her husband and children and I'm in the UK. We are still the greatest of friends, when I was ill last year I could have done with her so much and guess what she was here, she came for 2 weeks in February 2006 then her whole family were here for 3 months June-Sept. We seem to connect in such a way that even if I sit and think I could do with her opinion, she has in the past called me out of the blue and started the conversation with "You called" Fantastic
All the best as you get in touch again with your friends
xxx


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      NickysMumMum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | NickysMumMum
Lost Touch
Friends like this are so precious and are real keepers. The ones who always instinctively know when you're down and call you 'just to touch base'. Your there for them and they're there for you. It's difficult to find this quality in people these days. You're very lucky to have such a special friend who flew to the UK to help you when you were sick. That shows amazing generosity and such a beautiful caring compassionate nature. What an awesome friend! One of my friends, who's moving to NZ for 2 years, is planning to have children when she's there. I'd like to be able to so something like this for her when she has a baby. Oftentimes giving in a friendship is just as good, if not better than, recieving. This is a real lesson to learn in true friendship. I can't wait to support this dear friend on her journey into motherhood. And invite her to Minti - she'll love being a mum just for the op. to join our community!!! Hayley xxx


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           nell18-3
February 2007 | nell18-3
Lost Touch
They certainly are keepers.
We keep saying we're closer than sisters and in all the years of our friendship we have never had a cross word, we joke that its because we respect and love each other so much that we will agree with the other all the time even if secretly we think they are wrong. Still it works for us
Can't think of a better gift for a new Mum then an invite into Minti


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      NickysMumMum
February 2007 | NickysMumMum
Lost Touch


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           NickysMumMum
February 2007 | NickysMumMum
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OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
Still in touch....

I am still in touch with many of my old friends from school..... mind you there are those few that just bring back those old memories you try so hard to forget. I just pretend I don't remember them and watch for that lovely expression on their faces...you know the one..'you don't remember me???' hehehe...

hmmm, saying this though...if you are an old school friend, the one I didn't like...umm, it's different for you...I really don't remember ya!! 

Cheers

Lavinia



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      NickysMumMum
February 2007 | NickysMumMum
Still in touch....
hehehehe... so cheeky!!!........ you're right sometimes it is easier to pretend you haven't seen someone who you don't really wish to talk to.. especially if it was someone who's bruised your ego in the past or betrayed you in some way, it can be more hurtful to acknowledge such people. It's great you've stayed in contact with your friends. It takes a bit of effort but it would be definitely worth it especially if you were really good friends in school. That kind of friendship is hard to find again as an adult. Movies like 'Stand by Me' show us that - gratuitous mention as this was one of my all time favourites LOL
's Hayley xxx


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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | breannababy
CIRCLE
I have had a continual circle of hurt and betrayal with friends since Highschool..........I just seem to attract the wrong sort.........My Dad was very hard on me and his rational was that it would toughen me up for my adult life.............I have learnt to trust me to get me through all my trials......I have never called on any one for help......family were never there friends got going when the going got tough.So I have in effect built a wall up so as not to get hurt by people......I let some-one get close to me and we had a (what I thought)beautiful  trusting friendship.......I was wrong and after what she has recently put me through I have even had to commence counseling,she left me shattered......It has actually been Minti that has revived my faith in people........And you Hayley are one of those who has made a difference to my attitude Thank-you mwah for a great article hugs Merle


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      NickysMumMum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | NickysMumMum
CIRCLE
Since joining Minti, you have become a most cherished friend for me. I feel such a strong connection and feel that we've gone through a lot of the same. Minti has been my saviour too! Every day that I can get some time to get onto Minti I feel completely at peace as though I've got friends again. I feel so blessed. The stories and advice that I read in Minti ground me and remind me of my own precious existence, that I'm a mum trying her best and there are people in the world just like me facing the same challenges that I do. Some playgroups in my area have been difficult to break into as everyone tries so hard to impress and show how fantastic things are - no sleep problems, no feeding problems, no bonding problems.  As a mum who's faced many difficulties it's been hard to find others who are willing to share their not so perfect experiences which has led me to feel even more isolated and abnormal.

Merle, you are an amazing woman, you show unbelievable compassion towards your fellow minti members, and in everything you write you show yourself to be a wonderful mum. Anyone would be lucky to have you as a friend. And I must say I feel absolutely blessed. Thankyou for being such a thoughtful, compassionate and caring friend. Again you are amazing.

lotsa Hayley xxx MWAH



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      Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Wendigo
Trust.

Two things I've learned in life:

1. The joy you receive from putting your trust in someone and finding that you can trust them is worth putting your trust in 100 people and being let down.

2. You can't trust someone with everything, but your can trust everyone with something - it's just figuring who to trust with what that is the challenge.



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           NickysMumMum
February 2007 | NickysMumMum
Trust.
Amazingly insightful advice Wendigo!!! This is beautiful and I'll try to live by it. Trust is so important in a friendship but can be difficult to muster when you've been hurt and betrayed. It can be really hard to expose yourself believing that you will be continually hurt. Thankyou so much for reminding me how great it is to feel the safety of securing your trust in a caring friend. This is something I forgot long ago when my faith in my friends was lost. How eloquently you've put this. Such an idea to put yourself out their to so many people but as long as you don't expect that you can trust them you protect yourself from hurt, but when you find that one person it'll be worth it. Awesome!! Finding that person is by putting a little faith in everyone. This idea just might help me learn to trust people again. Thanks Wendigo!!
's Hayley xxx


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MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MadMel
What a fantastic story!
You told it so well and I am so happy that you are going to be meeting up with your old friends :)


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      NickysMumMum
February 2007 | NickysMumMum
What a fantastic story!
Thanks Mel, I'm really looking forward to it. Thanks for taking the time to read it. 's Hayley xx


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Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Wendigo
Once per year...

I make the effort to track down old friends and just touch base with the ones I haven't heard from for a long time.  Even though many of us don't communicate much at all, just knowing they are still there and are willing to say hello, and that I can contact them if I want to, keeps a nice little sense of comfort within me.

I don't always track down the same friends every year, I usually touch base with the ones I haven't heard from for the longest amount of time and the ones that are most likely to move and vanish into the ether without a trace.

And then every now and then they'll be in the same town as me, or I'll be in the same town as them and we'll catch up over a coffee or the like.  When I get in touch with some of my dearer friends, we take off on the conversation we last had where we left off like it was only yesterday.

As for acquaintences and fair-weather friends, well, if they say hello, I'll say hello and apologise for forgetting their name. 



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      NickysMumMum
February 2007 | NickysMumMum
Once per year...
That's great Wendigo! It sounds like you've found as system that really works for you. You're so lucky to have had enduring friendships which allow you the confidence and motivation to call them when you decide. That's beautiful and would be lovely for any of us to be able to do. It's also really cool the way you can pick up where you left off with your really dear friends. Obviously you always know and care what one another's about. Such a sign of true friendship.
I love your ending statement, so diplomatic to acknowledge them but 'oops what's your name again?' great treatment for fair-weather friends to put them in their place. And acquaintances? "oops I really don't know your name"  LOVE IT!!
's Hayley xxx


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raych
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | raych
friends from yesterday
I had a best friend from the age of 6 and at the age of 12 I moved away and lost contact for about 10yrs thereafter. She looked me up from the electoral roll and contacted me, and we started up our friendship again. At first it was great, you know, the reminiscing and that type of thing, but after a while, when I really sat down and thought about it, we no longer had anything in common. She was quite self-obsessed and only had time to talk about herself, what she's doing, where she's going, etc and I remember when my cat died suddenly, and I told her about how distressed I was, and she flippantly blew me off, and started talking about her next Theatre gig. It was then and there I realised, that the only thing we had in common was our childhood, and I knew that it was time to let the friendship go. I still think of her from time to time, but like everyone else from my childhood, they've faded away to distant memories. My childhood wasn't the most pleasant experience, so any memories of people from that timeframe get quickly tucked back into the corners of my mind. It's a shame really, but then, in today's hectic world, we barely have time for our families let alone a whole heap of friends. A couple of close friends suits me fine.


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      NickysMumMum
February 2007 | NickysMumMum
friends from yesterday
Well she was a fair-weather friend in all senses of the term!! It's a really detestable flaw in a person's character to be so self obsessed - to not even care when you told her your dear cat had died. Some people can be sooooo rude! It's true that sometimes we feel that all we have in common with school friends is our childhood and therefore we feel that it's not worth the effort to maintain a friendship. But some friendships can be enduring especially close friendships built through school, and being there for one another. These friendships can continue to grow especially as you grow older and, becoming a mum, have things in common again. Sometimes the different things in our lives are also a great talking point. To hear what others are up to and touch base is just as good as sharing experiences that you've both had, together or apart.

Like you I understand the trauma of a difficult childhood and how friends from the past can dredge up old repressed memories. And it can be therapeutic to focus on the here and now, but in my experience those feelings do come back to bite you in the bum in one way or another. And closing yourself off from friends can make you quite lonely. And you are very right this world is hectic. Friends take time but it is important. It can change your life and theirs. Unfortunately I'm not blessed with a large family to throw myself into and if everyone continues to be like that and focus only on their families because their too busy for people like me, I will never make new friends.

I hear what you're saying though, a couple of really close treasured friends is so much better than a hundred acquaintances kept at arms' length.

Thanks so much for this insightful response, Raych. We're lucky to have you in the Minti community. I've been reading many of your comments and you always have something great to say. Thanks again
's Hayley xxx


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youngmumof2
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | youngmumof2
Nice thought
I only left high school 5 years ago and i sometimes miss my old friends. but then i realise that life is always moving forwards never backwards and you are given the friends you need not the ones you want.


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      NickysMumMum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | NickysMumMum
Nice thought
I think it's a good idea to keep in touch with your good friends, you might miss them even more in five years time. I know it's really effected me but everyone's different. Yes we do move forwards not backwards and this is a really good way to live our lives, being future oriented. But some of our feelings and emotions remain anchored in the past and do need to be resolved. Thanks heaps for your response.
's Hayley xx


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