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Minti - Friend, counsellor, support network... & so much more

Anonymous Author (January 2007)
In a recent Q+A the following opinion was expressed by another member...
  • It worries me that so many people are asking really serious questions in a forum such as this instead of seeking medical or other professional help. Often when I sign on I find some
    of the dramas really depressing. I can understand people wanting affirmation or the opinion of others but if your child is ill or your partner is beating you or something of this magnitude i think you should get off the computer and get professional, practical help. Does anyone else feel this way? I don't mean to be uncharitable at all. I am sympathetic to anyone's problems. I just sometimes leave the Q & A section feeling a little bereft.

There are always so many views to take on any given situation... Firstly I understand the concern about some of the 'dramas being really negative'. The statement made in one of the answers to this  post was also reasonable.  
 
  • ‘When I first discovered minti, I think it was a more positive place for mums and dads to come and share experiences. Then people started discussing distressing events in their lives, and I was drawn to that because of my profession (I am a social worker). I even wrote an article on how to seek counselling, because I was only newly pregnant and didn't have anything else to contribute. Then I realised I wanted to come home from work and switch off, so I went cold turkey (with the help of MumKim's excellent article on minti addiction)

I mean who wants to come home from work & read about the problems other people are facing especially if you do it all day... HOWEVER, as was expressed, often when someone is off work & at a loss for something to do they are drawn to those exact same dramas as a way to alleviate their boredom; It is a real blessing to know that a sprinkling of professional people do browse the site & contribute from time to time. It shows that we still have caring people in the world who don't only offer their assistance at a cost. The same person even took the time to write a much NEEDED article to assist those who didn't know how to get counseling. We need more of that.

There are many people out there who do not have either the education or the means to seek help. People who can't afford private health insurance find it extremely hard to get assistance. In Australia it is not easy to get counselling, Doctors waiting lists are exorbitant. I know that we have to sometimes wait 2 weeks for an appointment with our GP.

In some situations all someone might want is for someone to say ' I understand, I don't know what to do, but I'm here to listen' There are so many people that just need to know there is someone they can vent to... Support in a time of crisis is essential as any good social worker will tell you, it can help stop someone going over the edge. Why are there 24 hour counselling services? Because people need people.

My own families crisis last week comes to mind... For a 'span of time' I was in shock. I have no real family apart from my son & daughter & the two littlies... Professional help was not available to me... I am not in crisis, but I was the one my daughter needed to vent to... Who do I unload to? Just knowing there's someone out there who will listen makes a difference. In our families case we didn't want to tell our neighbours what had happened... How long do you think they would let a 5 year old boy play with their kids if they knew that he had dileberately cut his wrist? I guarantee you, not many people are understanding... Minti offered us all a safe haven to share our experience & release the pressure valve.  

Situations affect all members of the family. While some of us are waiting for professional help to come our way it is GOOD to know there is somewhere we can go to

Minti not only offers a nice place for friendships to be formed & for parents to discuss their children's good & bad times... Minti helps us to Unload.. our fears, hopes, frustrations, joys. Minti offers us a place to be HUMAN... to care about other people & be cared for. What we put in will end up coming back 100 fold... I believe this is true. Another person's personal experience can shed light on situations in our lives, sometimes revealing a new way of dealing with a problem, or showing us where we have gone wrong...

When afflicted with a trauma most people's common re-action is 'For goodness sake, build a bridge & get over it' Some problems such as sexual assult, etc take a lifetime to get over... the first stage to healing is to be able to talk to others... to get the pain out. One session with a psych or social worker, even a dozen sessions, does not do it... people need to talk & talk & talk until the pain dies. Friends, family & medical professionals can only do so much... it is for this reason a site like minti is such a great place. Articles written by people who have dealt with similar 'depressing situations' allow hurting people an outlet to dispel some of the anger bottled up within.

For people who don't want to read depressing Q+A's or Advice, my advice is to you is simply steer clear from that subject... You can usually tell in the first few lines where a subject is going to go...I know i skip a lot of articles... i mean, I'm a grandmother & don't always want to talk about how to conceive or the pros & cons of breast feeding... for a site like minti to work it needs to be versatile & that is what is provided through a wonderful group of caring individuals at minti...
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ladyprincess
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | ladyprincess
Minti, Friend etc

As a counsellor, one thing I have learned is that I have seen many different people, but only a very small percentage journey long enough to make some changes in their life.  A lot of those who don't, just don't have any support at all.  Making the decision to seek professional help is a very difficult thing to do and I always encourage everyone to find someone to talk to.

For myself when I went through my depression the first thing I noticed was that I was all alone, I thought I had lots of friends and then suddenly there was no one.  Forums like this one can offer people the support and encouragement they need to take the step to get some professional help.  Once that step is made the  counsellor is only there once a week/fortnight etc.  To be able to grow we all need to let go, but unfortunetly that is learned.  I have had many person tell me, but I don't know how - I didn't know how, when it came to other people I could handle whatever life had dealt them, but for me my saving grace was a chat room.  I do not go there anymore, but for 3 years I went in everyday, sometimes 2 or 3 times, I was always there - those people, even though I had never met them were my greatest support and helped me through the toughest part of my life.

Whatever it takes, is what I say.  Find someone you can talk to - that is often the first step.  The next step is knowing that you have someone who will walk with you right to the end.  Even though I rarely have any contact with those people now, they are very special to me and always will be



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lightbee
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | lightbee
Wonderful article
I think you've expressed this beautifully.  I know Minti might have been designed to be a parenting advice site, but it has evolved into a wonderful, caring, loving community of such diverse people.  And that, in my opinion, is its strength. 


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      exquisite-flower
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | exquisite-flower
Wonderful article
You are quite right, but also - a lot of the things discussed here although not directly 'parenting' are directly influencing our ability to be parents. 

It is hard sometimes when worried to open up to those closest to you also, so an online network can give you the support to sort out your head without the 'personal' aspect.  I know that sounds really cold, but it isnt meant to.  The love and support that I have come across on Minti is real and alive. 

Great Article Raine
Peace
EF.x 


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OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | OzBinky
sometimes you just want someone else to tell you

I guess sometimes people just want to hear, I understand, I think you need, you should go, why not ask, I feel for you or even just ....hey mate ((HUGS)) to you...

One of the greatest things about minit and the members/family here is that the words 'You need to see a doctor' are normally always said along with words of support.

It is not really any different than sitting around the table having a coffee and saying, ya know what...I'm feeling......

 



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      Raine
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Raine
sometimes you just want someone else to tell you
Exactly. Plus it's a safe place. You can post anonymously if you want so no-one need ever know who you are if you have safety issues, the kids don't hear you discussing things that could alarm them, etc.


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Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Wendigo
Different strokes for different folks

Many people that need serious help don't like admitting it, and will look for every alternate route to get that help before going to see a professional.  It's easier to whinge and whine to friends, and strangers that they will never have to come face to face with, than to go to a professional and admit they need help.

Going to seek professional help is the ultimate signification that the person can not cope.  Some people also fear the worst and would rather not know.  My mother refused to go to a doctor for years because she knew she would be told to quit smoking and change her diet or die - and although she didn't want to die, she didn't want to hear that either.  It was easier for her to live in a blissful ignorance.  I've known people that were suffering illnesses and refused to go to a doctor because they were scared they'd receive the worst news, like they had cancer or something, even when it ended up being something trivial and easily treated.

Many people ask about depressing stuff on this site because they are looking for people to tell them what they need to hear, or want to hear, and they are looking for affirmation that they are justified in their concerns.  Some are looking for alternate routes out of their situations.  Some are just looking for attention and sympathy.  Some are looking for people to ease their fears and give them the courage to get the professional help they need.

I've got no problem with telling people over and over and over again to seek professional help if I genuinely think that is what they need.  It's not easy walking into an office and admitting something is wrong and you can't control the situation and ask for help, and it is nice to know that there are people out there in the world that are willing to back you up.  Minti is a place where that back up is available and free of charge.  It's also mostly anonymous and so people can feel safer talking about stuff.

For example, a woman who is getting beaten by her partner might be fearful of getting professional help, or of telling anyone she knows, incase no one believes her and she ends up having to suffer a worse fate if her partner finds out she's telling before she can feel safe.  On Minti she can talk about it, without fearing everyone will be phoning her partner or causing her more trouble than she already has.  We will believe what she has to say, which gives her confidence.  We will encourage her to get help, and give her advice on how to get it safely.  We will give her the moral support she needs, and thus the strength to stand up for herself and then to get her life back together after.

That is one of the reasons why Minti is here - to help those less fortunate than ourselves, and recieve help when we need it.  For those that are living on the lighter side of life, it gives them a chance to remember they are one of the lucky ones and appreciate what they have.  For those having hard times it gives them support and a good laugh if they need one.

Surviving Minti has been easy for me so far because every time I log on, I open two sections of my mind and let the contents spill out.  Those are compassion for the serious problems that can't be laughed at, and humour for everything else.



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      Raine
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Raine
Different strokes for different folks
Thankyou for your excellent input Wendigo.

The best part of being part of this FAMILY is that when we feel as if things are getting on top of us, we can turn the computer off & simply walk away.


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           Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Wendigo
Yes!

And unlike our real life family members, when we turn off the computer it doesn't follow us into another room and nag and whinge!  It's quite a refreshing change to real life in a way.



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ClayCook
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | ClayCook
if people need advice...
then i think they should be able to ask for it here on Minti.
That is what we are here for.. to help each other, whether the issue is small or large.


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NickysMumMum
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | NickysMumMum
Genius!!!!
I was starting to wonder this myself. I'm pretty new to the Minti community and haven't really known how to best introduce myself as one who has lived and learned. I was considering where to begin and started writing advice in areas that I know I can help people. I'm a teacher and have a keen interest in teaching and learning. I've also studied psychology so have a pretty good grounding in child behaviour. I started to realise that my advice meant nothing to other members because they don't know where this advice is coming from, or who I am. I felt that my story signifies who I am as a parent. You're right, support is so important. I've been very lucky to have professional support because I haven't had much from friends or family. It would be nice for people to be able to continue to tell their stories on Minti. I know however that for the moment I'm not yet ready to continue. Maybe some other time. I would prefer to be a happy, positive Minti member but sometimes this is difficult given my history.

I won't be burdening anyone with my tales of whoa. There's too many other members for me to consider at the present. I would much rather read others' stories.

Thankyou for keeping me grounded.. 's Hayley xx


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VenusMercury
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | VenusMercury
Support

Well said

I beleive all negatives can be turned into a positive once you recognise the troubles. Sometimes outlet such as these are not designed to atrract more negativity or judgement but calling for help. Even a small contact of support or talking about how you turned your own negative into something that works for you.

People are the sunshine of our day, some of us enjoy seeing others walking alone on their feet and I think if we as human beings can offer what we can more people will feel the sun when they wake up.

It takes a village to raise a child .. right?



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | nell18-3
Minti't a
Thanks Raine
For writing this, I read the question earlier today and actually didn't answer feeling I was one of the people who had brought their problems to the site, thus spoiling it for other people, I was really relieved when I just checked that most of the people who have answered do have a different opinion than the one asking the question. Which is all fine, thats exactly what we are a group of people from all over the world with different opinions and all free to pass on our opinions.
I for one don't know how I would cope at the moment without the knowledge I have such good friends here that I can call on in a crisis.
Thanks everyone xxx


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cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | cazza
Minti-friend
I absolutely agrre with what you are saying. As we are all on here for advise and guidance and if we can just help that one person, maybe they may feel comfortable to seek the professional help if they desire.... It is hard, and none of us are perfect, but i think this site is excellent, and why would you turn anywhere else...


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