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Teenage rape...Some things we do to try to keep our kid safe...

cookclan by cookclan Young Parent(February 2007) (rank 11th)
Teens and rape.....

It has concernd me recently of the raise in Rapes in the area we live in......Most of the victims of this are teenage girls......When they talk about it and you hear the story of what was behind it and the leading up to it......I really feel
for them.....I was a teenager in the 80's...I used to go out at night to the movies and the party and hook up with guys.....didn't we all as teenagers?? It was nothing for a couple of people to be caught having a good old kiss and hug in the dark at a party.....It never got too out of hand that I recall......I remember once in 1988 I was 15 and I met this boy at the Expo.....We started talking and got along well and he kissed me and we practically kissed all night.....a couple of time during this kissing session he moved his hands down towards my lower part of my body to which I promptly told him NO......Guess what he listened....

I will tell you a bit of one of the girls stories from here as she has told me....She is 16 and has a few drinks when she goes to a party......This party she went to she met this cute guy and started flirting with him and kissing him and cuddling etc......Things got a little out of hand and the kissing turned into a heavy petting session.......He then tried to push her down and get on top of her.....she kept saying no in a not forceful way but still a no .......this boy did not hear this or chose to not hear this.......He continued......She again told him no this time a little more forceful he then got on top of her and she was too scared to make a scene......so even though she said No that night in the backyard behind a shed she still lost her virginity...... When he had finished he got up left her there and walked away.........When she talked to me about how she felt about it the thing she said to me worried me alot.....I said if you say No he needs to know you meant no she said Oh but I kind of led him on....... NO MATTER WHAT THIS IS NOT RIGHT i have said it before and will say it again NO MEANS NO........

That to me is rape......She said NO and he took it any way....She is too embarrased to tell any one that she was raped....This is happening in our town on a regular basis to teen girls as it did when I was younger.......Even though it was not physically violent it was still rape.......Rape is Rape even if you are dating a guy or married to him or just hooking up at a party if you say No and he takes it anyway it is rape and the law sees it that way too..........

I have done a few things to try to help my Kids cope with a situation like this.....My girls and my boys........

I have told my eldest as he is sexually active.....I do not care if you are half way through the deed.....She says NO it means NO even if it doesn't sound like she is definate.....No means No stop get off and leave it there.......Do not try to talk her into it just say Okay and leave it.......Even if you have had sex with her before even if she is your girlfriend No means No (Even better don't get in the situation a girl has to tell you no hehehe don't be doing anything sexual and it will be right) No use hoping for that but because even if we do not like the idea our kids will have sex........ For my girls I have taught them,  for when I let them go to parties that if a boy gets too friendly for them  say No at a normal level but firm tone and try to move away.....If he persists make a scene.....I don't care how angry or embaressing it is do it......No means No and that boy needs to know that.....Never get in a situation when you are on your own with a boy in the dark stay with friends and in the light around people....

I hope with what I have taught them that they will understand and try to keep themselves safe in this situation if they ever find themselves there.....And god forbid if something happens to the girls they feel comfortable enough to talk to me about it instead of feeling it was kind of okay because they led him on.......There is no guarantee that if we teach our kids this way that it will prevent it but we are just trying to help them to avoid it as best we can.........

I do not want my girls to live thinking the way the 16 year old we know.......I have tried to get her to talk to someone but she won't she believes in her head it was okay because she led him on that she kind of deserved it......Nobody deserves that.....

Have a great day
Cheers
Angie
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emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | emmie
Re: Teenage rape...Some things we do to try to keep our kid safe...
great advice angie well done


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exquisite-flower
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | exquisite-flower
My heart is sad
This culture today scares and hurts me.  Guys just have no respect for themselves or their women.  Girls have no respect for themselves, the girls that talk to me are the ones who are giving in because they are scared that if they actually say 'No' they will get hurt for it.  They dont dare even insist on protection.  They live in family planning clinics scared that their Daddies will find out what has happened.  They are the girls that are up for partying hard and enjoying their teens to the max - but preferably without the disrespect.  I wish i could make it all right for them again. To make it safe - unfortunately there is no magic cure.  Great article Angie.  I hope that we can encourage these girls to speak up and take control and pride in their lives again.
Peace
EF.x 


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madchanny
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | madchanny
great article
Thanks for sharing this Angie.
i really hope this young lady steps up and brings it all out in the open before he does the same to other young women, she shouldn't go blaming herself for this, he was the one holding her down.
If there would be any way you could get her to read these great comments, to show her she EVEN has the support from complete strangers, and to be strong.


xx channy


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4BOYZ
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | 4BOYZ
rape

I personally have just been to court  as a support person with my sister-in-law and niece who was sexually abused by the father of the niece on an obscene amount of occasions. It broke my heart just listening to what the girls had to say and the photographic evidence was horrific. I can't believe it happened under everyone's noses. Well, he has just been sentenced to 3 years jail for what he did to one of the girls and were still waiting for the result for the other.

I am soo proud of the girls, I believe they are heros. I wish there more girls out there like them,Who will stand up to him and punish him for what he has done.



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Omegastar
4.13 (Good) | February 2007 | Omegastar
thank you

thank you for sharing your experience and thank you to all the others who have shared as well.

I was 17 when I went through rape but was also sexually abused as a child. I had blamed myself for the childhood things for the longest time but finally got it in my head that it didn't matter what I did, I was only 9 and he was an adult.

The rape was a different story, I still blame it partially on myself because I did put myself in teh situation, however I do acknowledge the fact that I initially thought I was in a safe place, someone's home that I was seeing at teh time. I was young stupid and had taken a bunch of pills, after awhile I thought I was okay, went there and had a drink, half way through it I passed out. I awoke later on, I don't know how much later on with someone I did not know on top of me. I managed to get away, it was not violent that I can remember and ran out the door, I continued to black out the rest of the evening and got a taxi home and went to sleep. I tried to find out who had done it to me and never did, I have yet to know his name or see him since teh incident so I have put it behind me.

A lot of girls do blame themselves and it is so very sad.



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lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
Great advice again angie

I love reading reading your articles they are full of real life experiences stuff that almost everyone can relate to. You are such a wonderful person.

 Lexi xxx



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | nell18-3
I still can't say the word
I think this is what may have happened to me during my marriage but I'm not ready to say it.
My ex used to call it Hate Making cos he said I hated it.
If I ever did say No he would then keep me awake all night, by nidging, kicking or calling me saying if I couldn't make him comfortable then he didn't see why I should sleep. So I used to let him just do it so I could sleep.  I used to cry every time I started my period as I knew I would be in trouble!! Sometimes I would wake and the act of sex would be all but over I would ask what he was doing and he would say he had to do it when I was asleep or I would say NO! Sometimes I would be made to feel so bad about his needs that I used to say just get it over with and cry all the way through, I was told to stop crying as I was spoiling it for him!!! And people wonder why I left him??

My daughter also had a terrible experience with a brother of a school friend during a sleep over, she woke to a pillow over her head, fortunately nothing happened as she screamed loud enough to wake everyone, the worst thing is I only found out a couple years after the event as she was ashamed

Fantastic article
xxx



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claudine1
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | claudine1
It is so bad
Once when i was in my late teens, a older man had put some kind of drug in my coffee and oops maybe 10 minutes later i was past out. All i can remember is that i could see what was happening, lost a few moments somewhere but could not moves any of my body parts. It is very freeky, did not say anything to my boyfriend because did not want to loose him, but it made me feel so sick. That man ended it up going to jail for doing that to many girls because he was saying he had a modeling agency and we would go to that place just to talk, he showed me all the papers, pictures taking before and contracts he had, and also one person i knew well referred him to me. She told me he does pictures for company ads. I wasn't worried to go there because his 10 years old son would always be there with him. I guess it did not stop him. He ended it up getting killed in jail and when police ask me if he had molested me i said no, just to scared, and he would also keep a black book of all the names and phone numbers and writings of his sexual games. It is sick, it doesn't really bother me anymore today because i realize that it wasn't my fault.


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angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | angelmum
Teenage Rape

When I was at school we went to a party and my friend was flirting all night with a boy from another school, we were all pretty drunk and crashed at this house where ever we could find a soft spot.  My friend went to one of the bedrooms with this guy with the intention of doing more than just kissing, but by the time they got to that point she realised she was making a mistake as she was a virgin.  She told him to stop that she wasn't comfortable with it and he basically told her you cant stop now its to late and he held her down and raped her.  When she told us, we said why didn't you scream out to us, she thought because she had openly flirted and gone into the bedroom that we wouldn't believe her and that she had asked for it, we tried to get her to press charges, but she said no one will believe me after leading him on.  So this little %^%#$% got away with it, well sort of, after a few male friends got to him he got some sort of punishment!!  Even back then there was poor education, with her and the boy and some of our friends who actually thought she asked for it.



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michellei
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | michellei
Teenage rape
I was dated raped by my first boy friend.
Guess what........It was my fault because I was at his house alone.
I had no sex ed and didn't really know what was going on. I was 15 the first time and 16 when he got me pregnant. My parents forced me into having a termination.
Needless to say I went off the rails and made really poor life choices.
For nearly 10 years of my life I was on drugs and used sex for anything  - a place to stay, drugs alcohol, food whatever.
I didn't love me so I didn't have any self worth. My parents wondered what was so bad about my life.
Go figure.

I can't change my experiences as they have made me the person I am today, but I will do everything in my power to stop that happening to my daughter.



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LaRenae
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | LaRenae
I know from experience
After something violent happened many of the girls I knew at the time came forward and discussed "date rape" ... As all have said ... No MEANS No !! Over pressuring someone with keen words and smooth tactics, or drugging them, or getting them drunk DOES NOT MAKE IT OKAY !!! Getting caught up in the moment and changing one's mind ... by saying "no" ... well, NO IS NO ... Teenage females need to learn to not get themselves in such positions ... I mean to not let themselves be led to be alone and to not fall for smooth words ... and boys need to be taught to be more respectful ... of females and their physical innocence ... Just a thought, and not being sexist ... but when a boy loses his virginity there is no permanent physical change ... when a female loses her virginiy ... it is a permanant physical change ... Oh how I wish all our young ones could remain innocent !


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giftid3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | giftid3
Tumeke te korero
Awesome! You are so right.  They need to be aware of all avenues of safety.  With the world we live in today, sex has become a right that can be taken whenever it is wanted and too bad if you don't.  The time you have taken to instil these good values into your children will be rewarded and so will others to take heed of the advice you give.  He pai rawa atu ki a koe ki to korero.  Excellent.  The world needs more like you


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MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MadMel
Fantastic!
No means No! No matter how it is said or the events leading to it. Even if you were all for it and half way through decide you dont want to you shouldn't be made to. I agree with what you have said here. Excellently written. 5 stars here!


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OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
Excellent advice....

and like merle said, educate - educate - educate...

Lavinia



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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | breannababy
EDUCATE EDUCATE EDUCATE
WE  cannot stop teenagers from being sexually active but we can educate them in respecting their bodies and respecting each others right to say NO.I myself was date raped by my b/f's brother........He was supposed to be looking after me while b/f was away......took his job a bit too seriously I think.as a result,rather than tell b/f I broke it off it was so sad cause I had not even had relations with b/f we were waiting till I was ready.It had only been my second time experience and really broke my heart it was very painful for me cause I felt I couldn't talk to any one about it.I think young boys need a lot of help in realizing NO means NO  the circumstances do not matter  NO IS A NO. Great article Angie mwah


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      cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | cookclan
EDUCATE EDUCATE EDUCATE
This is what I am trying to say No matter what the circumstances.......NO means NO......We have to tried to teach our boys that and teach our girls how to say it and mean it........I have a friend Merle who has a son spending time in jail for Rape....It was his girlfriend and he took it a bit far and after her saying no he thought he had a right because she was his girlfriend.....That is soooo not true....He now realises that he did was wrong and he should have listened.... It was a very hard situation for all involved.......If we teach our kids NO when they start feeling like they want to get close with the opposite sex even just cuddling then if a bad situation does happen then hopefully they will know what to do......Thanks for you comment and sharing your experience......
Mwah
Angie


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