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Water and children DO NOT mix

Joeyjo by Joeyjo Minti Founder(February 2007) (rank 268th)

We have just moved into our new house. It has a lovely backyard with a pool. It's great to have a backyard pool especially in  this Australian heat, and with 2 very active children always needing physical stimulation!

However, in the first 3 weeks that we moved in, our

4 yo had two near misses.

On the first occasion, she misjudged the depth of the water and went straight to the bottom. We fished her out quickly and she was shaken but ok. On the second occasion (and this was very scary...) her dad was in the pool with her.  She had somehow unclipped her floats before reaching the steps... again, misjudging the depth of the shallow end of the pool. His back was turned away from her as he was applying sunscreen on, he felt a pinch and he ignored her. He then felt another pinch and this time he turned around, only to find that she was kicking furiously under water but she had summoned enough strength to pinch for help one more time. Needless to say, if he had not turned around, she would have drowned.

I just want to remind everyone to Please remember that drowning is SILENT. There will be no thrashing around or shouts or screams for help. The children quite literally, sink to the bottom very quietly. YOU MUST NOT TAKE YOUR EYES OFF THEM as you CANNOT HEAR THEM.

Please be water-safe.  These are steps to take:

(1) Teach your children to swim as early as possible.

(2) If you have a pool, ensure that your fence is secure and the latch is high.

(3) If your child cannot swim, ensure that you put floaties on them all the time when they are in the water. Ensure that the floaties are in good condition.

(4) Keep your eyes on them all the time. This is especially so when there are other children in the pool and you tend to get side-tracked by other activities of the other children. A carer-to-child ratio of 1 to 2 is probably a good idea.

I had another incident with my son when he was 3. This was during a swimming lesson when the instructor basically left him on the step as she took 2 other kids out to swim. Sam slipped into the water (deep end) and no one saw him for a few seconds. The frightening thing was... I was standing right over him but watching the instructor paddle away with the other kids. I heard a parent yelp and jumped in to fish him out. This happened in a pool full of people, with an instructor and me.  I was shaken and the instructor was so shocked that she went home without completing the session.

(5) You should be an arm's reach from your child in the water.

(6) As early as you can, educate your child on water safety. Tell them the sensible things to do in the water, such as, don't jump or dive at the shallow end; do not go into the water without a grown-up; keep the floaties on etc

(7) Do not trust just anyone with your child in the water... especially other young children or teens... as you cannot rely on their judgement or attention to safety.

It all ended well anyway... my 4 yo finally swam without her floaties last week! We're still keeping our eyes firmly on her, but at least, we know that she is heading in the right direction.

 

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kmaxk12
September 15th | kmaxk12
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

I have child and i think it is very danger to mix children whith pool, I have small swiming pool, and when my child is swimming i am always near.  (i am not english spoken,  so  I am sory for language)



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sandra106
September 11th | sandra106
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

you certaimly have to watch them all the time my daughter nearly drowned at a swimming lesson because the instructor left her down 1 end of the pool thinking because she told her just to sit there she would but curiousity got the better of her and she jumped in another lady sitting next to me said can your daughter swim I was shocked as I looked over he she was under the water I had to jump in clothes,shoes and all and got her out luckily she was alright my son who was only 8 at the time saw her and swam straight over to her aswell. I spent the night in hospital with shock and the instructor was stressed for weeks. They changed there procedures after this and I also never took my eye off her again you just can not put all your trust in peoplpe.We were so lucky that lady was wathcing and took notice.



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mystikal
September 11th | mystikal
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

Excellent advice. When I was younger I was at the beach swimming and these waves kept coming. I kept getting mouthfuls of water and couldn't breathe properly and all I could do was raise my hand up in the air to get someone's attention. It was a horrible experience and I can't imagine any other child going through it.



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supermommy
October 2008 | supermommy
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix
OMG!!!! That is one of my biggest worries, My kids and water.


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greenmints
July 2008 | greenmints
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

nice advice!



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nabutters
July 2008 | nabutters
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

great advice,,,,,good reading

cheers na



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mrs-connell
May 2008 | mrs-connell
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

You are very lucky to still have your daughter, my friend was not so lucky 6 months ago when she & her partner were both sunbathing by the pool & didn't even hear there 2 & a half year old son go in the pool & by time they found him it was to late, so I think your advice is extremely important for ALL parents to read, well done & thank you for sharing your experience because it just might make people who read it more aware around the pools with there children
 

Jacki



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robalman
April 2008 | robalman
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

You are very lucky, some people dont get a second or even a third chance when it comes to water.

I congratulate you for sharing this with us as it is very important to understand the very real dangers involved.

We should be encouraged to teach our children to swim from an early age in Australia because with the amount of hot days we get water is always going to be atractive to them.



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whome
January 2008 | whome
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

I liked this all children shoud be taught to swim from an early age, good advice



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Muse
January 2008 | Muse
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

good strong advice



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etcircus
October 2007 | etcircus
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

I don't really even believe that older brothers or sisters should watch young ones in the pool as they are not always able to identify when a little one is in trouble. It reminds me of a time when I was little and in the surf. My big brother (who loves me and still feels bad about this even though I am now 31) was watching me on a surfski and then decided to take it for himself as it was his turn. I was a great swimmer, but his timing wasn't well thought out and I was left in the deep water with THE most tired arms in the universe from paddling out there. I started to have trouble and a lifeguard spotted me and paddled out. My brother then came over and told the life guard "she's ok, Im her big brother and I'm watching her. She's a good swimmer." The lifeguard thankfully made his own assessment of the situation and took me in to the beach where I vomited water for ages. I was too scared to go back into the surf for the rest of the holidays. The point being, noone is disputing that older children care about their younger brothers and sisters, they just don't have the skills to assess a situation and decide that it is dangerous until the danger becomes obvious and by then it could be too late. I agree, NEVER take your eyes off your children when they are in water.

Great article and perfectly timed with the weather getting hotter and hotter :)



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cazza
September 2007 | cazza
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix
This is a great article and so important to remember those tips that u have given here,..

I have 3 kids and all have swimming lessons as they are all water kids, and its scary for them as well, if they didnt know the importance of safety around water,...

take care
love cazza


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ellamia
September 2007 | ellamia
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix
Excellent article


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angelicarose
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | angelicarose
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix
fence the pool, shut the gate, teach your kids to swim its great supervise and learn how to resusitate!!! lol


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AZMom
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | AZMom
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

OMG what a shock! Great advice, and thanks for sharing. I recently had an accident with my son in the bath.. scared the life out of me! I was so shocked at how fast it happened.

Also, earlier this year there was an incident in this town where a 2 and a 4 year old managed to climb over their neighbours fence and ended up falling into their pool and had to be revived. The four year old recovered quickly, however the 2 year old was not so lucky and suffered brain damage. Never underestimate what can happen near water!



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blackwidowkate
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | blackwidowkate
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix
Hi
Reading your article and the comments made made me realise how complacent we become as the kids get older
My friend has a pool and is totally paranoid  A lot of people have laughed at her but the rules are unless there are at least two kids that can both swim minimum  (teenagers as well) and adults no one is allowed in the pool. 
She has 2 teenagers that are excellent swimmers yet this is still no guarantee for safety in a back yard pool. 
One day her teenagers were in the pool and she was sitting by watching them and the phone rang.  because they are both good swimmers she went inside and answered it to tell the person she would ring them back later. 
As she was walking back outside she heard one of her daughters scream and ran out to find her youngest 14 at the time wedged under the pool ladder.  You see they had been playing a game of swimming through and around and under the ladder.  The A frame type. Why because they realised they could fit through it and it was fun.   The youngest had gotten stuck in the ladder because of the way she had swam through it. 
They had no way of lifting the ladder out as the daughter was too heavy for them. 
She was totally stuck in the ladder and drowning very quickly. 
Luckily enough the neighbour who had come home for 5 minutes had heard the screaming and raced over and together they were able to break the ladder free  and reef it out of the pool dragging her daughter with it. 
CPR was commenced and luckily enough her daughter was ok apart from a few bruises.
If she had not had her rule about more than one in the pool or noone allowed in  this would have been a totally different  outcome.  The ladder was destroyed  also .  Noone had realised what a hazzard they can be.  She now allows nothing in the pool that cannot be deflated quickly.  
Most of us become complacent as our children become teenagers and can swim but this is something we all cannot do. 
It is not just water and children.  It is water and people as well. 
As she says what if a adult is swimming by themselves and has a heart attack or something...or slips and bumps their head. 
There are no second chances 
Luv Deb


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      MissKelly
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | MissKelly
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

I like the new rule of nothing that can't deflate quickly allowed in the pool. That gave me a great idea and a new rule for my pool. We have always done the buddy system. You watch for your buddy and then we have checks once in a while and yell buddy and everyone grabs their buddy.



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cheekymonkey
July 2007 | cheekymonkey
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix
great advise. I started grub at lessons when he was 11 weeks old. it's the best money I will ever spend. I can't get my head around people who won't take the time to do the same. We kive in a country that is surrounded by water, it is everywhere we go (ok our dams oare a little low atm, but you get what I mean).


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      robalman
April 2008 | robalman
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

As your kids grow you will realise that every bit you spend on them is the best money spent. Helping them to live and be happy is an unbeatable feeling.



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lunaeclips5
July 2007 | lunaeclips5
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix
This Advice is perfect. Beautifully written.


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rockclimbr4400
June 2007 | rockclimbr4400
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix
great advice!


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Rejen
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Rejen
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

They do mix if they are PROPERLY SUPERVISED! I started my daughter in swimming at 10 months old and wish I had done it earlier. Our class has taught my daughter to not panic if she falls in. Floaties are discouraged as dangerous and not good for teaching your child natural movement in the water. The idea of the early classes is to teach them about their bodies and movement in the water. Lets face it - many kids don't put floaties on before sneaking or falling into the pool. They need to feel the water around their body naturally so they don't panic and can manouver properly if they do fall in. The carer or parent should have 100% attention on the child at all times and always be within arms reach of older children in the pool (toddlers and babies are in your arms at all times). Natasha can now monkey walk along the edge to the stairs all by herself at 19 months old. She can jump in, turn and grab the wall all by herself and she can swim to me underwater for short distances. I don't expect her to be the next Thorpie but did it because there is so much water in Australia and I want her to be as safe as possible. I don't plan on ever letting her out of my sight long enough for an accident to happen but just to be sure. The phone regulary goes unanswered because it's bath time and I don't trust the few seconds it would take to answer it. Safety awareness is imperative so kids and water can mix and enjoy the experience.

The advice was good and bringing forward awareness is great - I just hope that others use the knowledge to educate their kids to be safe in and around water and not give in to any fears of their own about swimming lessons. I also hope people are made aware of the dangers of floaties. They do not let the parent off the job of supervision and I find them unnecessary anyway. Each to their own however, so long as you get all the facts before making the floatie decision.



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      robalman
April 2008 | robalman
Re: Water and children DO NOT mix

Being a parent means being responsible and it sounds like you are well on your way there.

Just awesome...keep teaching your tin lids to swim.



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lisasmith140483
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | lisasmith140483
i agree

The same goes with bath time guys, i bath my 3 year old and 1 year old together. Lastnight i turned my back to get the towels and when i turned back he had her head under the water.. Just playing of course but it could have been a deadly game. So please dont think for 1 second that cildren are safe near any form of water!

thanks!!



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sonk
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | sonk
Afraid
My boys have always been urging me to take them for swimming lessons. But to be honest with you I am afraid to let them do so. I will try your suggestions. Thank you


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tassiebiarch
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | tassiebiarch
pools

we have a pool,an above ground(which i think is safer)and we built a higher fence than reccomended and we also take the ladder away just for extra precaution. i was worried when we first put the pool in but i am not that worried considering we have a huge fence



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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | MummaBear
pools
We had an above-ground pool growing up.  At that time it was not law to have a fence and most people around us didn't have one.  We had a really high fence made with unfinished wood with very small gaps between each post.  Any child who tried to climb fence would end up with splinters from top to toe.  I tried of course, it wasn't a success.  Our mother also took the ladder away just as an added precaution.  No child was allowed near the pool unsupervised until the age of 13, and only if that child was a competent swimmer.  I come from a family of swimmers and we are all pool-safety conscious.  I'm a believer in teaching kids to swim from a very young age so they can get to the side and call for help.  I'm a bigger believer in supervising kids until they are teens AND able to swim well.  A child drowned in a pool 2 doors from us.  They had an inground pool with no fence, and it was 3 steps from the back door of their house, which was a sliding glass door.  They didn't think their 3 year old could unlock and open the door, but never underestimate the abilities of a determined toddler.  His mother woke up one morning to find the back door open and her child dead.  He'd been dead 2 hours before anyone even woke up in the house.  It was a wake-up call to all, and happened not long before the new fencing laws came into place.  The child had never been taught to swim or he may have been able to get to the steps and get out, or to the side and call for help even.


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           MissKelly
January 2008 | MissKelly
Re: pools

When the children were smaller we also had a floating alarm. All our neighbors knew about it so if they heard it they would know it was our pool and come quickly. We ordered it through a pool supply company and it is a disk like thing that when turned on detects motion in the water and then sounds an alarm. It could also be adjusted for the level of motion so one could still use the filter or account for a breeze. But would catch and alarm someone dipping in or falling in or sliding in. We turned it on whenever we got out just in case one of the boys would open the back door and go straight to pool while we were in other part of house or something like that. Luckily it only went off once and it saved my dogs life. My little dog fell in while drinking pool water a little too closely. She had never fallen in before so it was odd but neighbors were outside cooking and heard and saw the whole thing and got her out.

I would recommend some type of product of like this. We purchased it a long time ago and I am sure there are better ones available now. Worth looking into!



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Becs
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | Becs
Extremely true

We have a pool without a fence (just auto shut doors) & i NEVER let my son leave my sight & he is in swimming lessons. it is always in the back of my mind !!!! Very scary



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rjongm
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | rjongm
Poolside beers are dangerous

Joeyjo, I can't tell you how important your post is.  Our neighbors have a pool and on they invited us over along with 3 other families with young kids.  Our youngest was 2 and the youngest of the kids there.  As the adults chatted and drank beers, the kids were running around the pool so we assumed that our oldest and the other kids were all looking out for each other.   Fortunately, one of the parents heard a lone splash and we all turned around.  On the far side, our son had fallen in and was just sinking to the bottom in complete silence.  We dove in after him and he was fine.  However, whenever I look at him to this day - he is 7, I can't help but think how lucky we are to still have him.



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      Joeyjo
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | Joeyjo
Poolside beers are dangerous
I am so relieved for you. It is very scary and it always causes my heart to skip a beat when I hear of things like children falling into pools or even a pool of shallow water and drowning. It is all so sad, and so unnecessary, when it is also so preventable.


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samantha
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | samantha
eyes on them alway
we have a pool but our children are wached religiously, my husband or i are always in with them watching every second, we have not had any close calls as our eyes are peeled, pools scare me, it'll be good once there all alot bigger thats all i can say


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llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | llmunchkin
Never too careful!
This is great advice, we all need to hear it over & over & over again... It is so easy to get distracted & so much can go wrong in a manner of seconds.  Thank you for sharing this, as I am sure it is scary for you to even think about still!


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smokingbook
4.55 (Excellent) | April 2007 | smokingbook
Great Advice

I can't swim but have made all 3 of my children have swimming lessons, but I still inwardly panic if they go near water. We regularly go for walks on the local moors with the grandparents and I hate them going near the large ponds incase they slip in even though my over half and his parents can swim.



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      HarrisonsMommy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | HarrisonsMommy
Learn to swim

You should take swimming lessons.  Is there anything stopping you?

You panic when your kids get into the water because you know you can't help them!  It is a valuable thing for you as a person and a parent to learn to swim.  You will feel such a sense of accomplishment if you do.  Give it a shot!



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           samantha
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | samantha
Learn to swim

i agree, i think everyone should know how to swim, if not to save your child but to even save yourself!

p.s before i voted your comment was marked down, i  can't see why someone would mark it down?????if you disagree and think she shouldn't learn to swim maybie you should comment about why you feel that way!!



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                samantha
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | samantha
Learn to swim
by the way i was speaking to whoever marked it poor


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pfallerj
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | pfallerj
Stellar
Great advice. It amazes me when I meet an adult who hasn't had swimming lessons. It's something every kid should have, not for the fun factor, but for safety.

Be sure to watch them in the bath too. It only takes a few inches of water.


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MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MummaBear
Teach your kids to swim - It's Great! But supervise at all times!
I am very proud to say that my 3 and a half year old swam 25 metres unassisted a few days ago. She has never had floaties.  That's not to say she can be left alone now that she is competent enough to get to the side. The pool was filled with Learn To Swim teachers all the way down who were keeping an eye on her. I was walking on the side of the pool alongside her, the whole ready to pounce in if she got into trouble.  I don't leave her alone in the bath or shower still, yet I know so many people who leave their kids in bath tubs or in the shower and the child gets out and finds his/her own towel! We don't have a pool in our yard, but for Christmas we booked into a motel where they had a pool in the grounds.  She was near my mum who was on crutches at the time and couldn't move fast. I was on the opposite side of the pool. I heard a splash and jumped in instantly (mobile phone in jeans pocket and all!) only to find that by the time I swam the length of the pool she had swum to the side and pulled herself up! No matter how good your children are at swimming, never be tempted to leave them unsupervised for a second.  As Joeyjo said, drowning is silent!


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OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
Water and Children....

Very good article....

Thank you for writing this....

Cheers

Lavinia



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solarius
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | solarius
Scary ...
Wow, what a wake up call! I'm so glad your daughter is ok. My heart skipped two beats!

Your post is definitely very pertinent especially for those with backyard pools.


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kseers
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | kseers
Thank you
Thanks for that wake up - we can get complacent can't we??


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NickysMumMum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | NickysMumMum
Water safety
This should be a real wake-up call to all parents. You must be so stunned about your luck in these near misses. The outcome could have been so tragic. Oh it makes me shudder to think.. Water safety is so important. Not just around pools where you can constantly supervise children and teach them water safety. It's also important to understand that any water around the home can be a drowning hazard - a bucket of mop or car cleaning water, the dog or cat's water bowl, and the bath just to name a few. Also local rivers, lakes and ponds are a danger when toddlers get out without parents knowing. It's pretty scary but it can happen and has to the most cautious parents. The only safeguard is constant vigilance, knowing the dangers and knowing CPR in case the unthinkable happens. You never know who you might need to save.
's Hayley


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      Joeyjo
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Joeyjo
Water safety
Agreed! A CPR course/First aid course is so important but is one of those things that we overlook in our busy lives. I will go and register myself in one now that I have a pool. Well said, pools of water around the house such as buckets and bath-tubs are also very dangerous. I heard of a story told to me time and time again by relatives of a toddler who leaned into a toilet bowl to retrieve a toy. As the kid went in head first, he was unable to hoist himself up again and drowned. It gives me shudders.... That was why I kept my bathroom door closed and the toilet seat down when my kids were little. (The door latch was very high in our house but if it weren't, I would have bought a toilet seat latch too).


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mandymum3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mandymum3
I agree
i drumed it in my daughters head she would drown in the pool, she is six, swims well now, but she still has caution in the water. my bigest worry are dams and rivers, you cant see the bottom of them


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      Joeyjo
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Joeyjo
Ponds and dams...
That's my worst nightmare actually, that my kid falls into a dam or a deep water receptable and I can't fish them out. There's a beautiful place called MUNDARING WEIR just outside of Perth and I have been tempted to take my kids out there for a picnic but NEVER DO because of that. There is a huge drop into the dam off the bridge....


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           bella2795
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | bella2795
Re: Ponds and dams...

This is a really important issue too, just as much as pools.

Fish ponds, farm dams, water troughs, even water tanks - ANY body of water can be dangerous, and some of these 'other' non-pool bodies of water are, in my opinion, far more dangerous than a pool. Reasons include the laws/guidelines that require pools to be fenced; the fact that you can see the bottom; and access for an attempt at rescue is often worse.

We have a small farm, and we don't have a dam for two reasons. One is that we intend to have several kids, and we already have a niece and nephew; the other is they attract snakes!

We have tanks though, and we now need to have a serious look at making sure that access to the inspection hatchs are strictly 'adults only'.

There are two issues in this discussion as I see it - Firstly, the importance of swiming lessons so that kids can handle themselves in a large body of water; secondly, the importance of 'water education'. I mean, we teach our kids at a very young age that the oven, cups of tea, the fireplace etc are 'HOT' and that they are not to touch. Given the inherent danger, do we not need to take the same approach to water?

Just some thoughts!

Matt.



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Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Kellzacar
Mmmm

It should be a well known fact in today's society that water is the worlds most silent killer! But sadly its not!

I only have a paddling pool in my yard for the kids and I wont even take my eyes of them when they are in that and I empty it as soon as we have finished.

Well done on reminding people of what can happen.

Cheers Kellz



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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | breannababy
I hear you
We had an inground pool growing up and my brother was taught to swim(by us)before he could walk,my mum was very apathetic around water etc and I was always afraid I'd come home from school to a disaster.teaching them to swim is no guarantee but it  is an added safety measure.Brilliant article regards Merle


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MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MadMel
Fantastic!
And you shared a point that was very important, there is no sound!! Drowning is silent!
5 stars from me hunni!


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Jessgore
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Jessgore
Water and Children...
Water and children no matter how much fun it is, is always a dangerous mix.. We can never be to careful around water....


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