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I don't want to go see daddy anymore...

OzBinky by OzBinky Young Parent(February 2007) (rank 13th)

Mummy, we don't want to go to daddy's anymore.......

These words rang though my ears several years ago from my two eldest children after a visiting with their father for a weekend. I can’t say that I was shocked as my ex-husband was an extremely moody and nasty

person back then, not that he would admit to it even now, but I was at a loss as to what to do. I had a court order to honour stating that he would have a weekend access each fortnight but I also had two children threatening to run away if they had to go back.  

I was aware that I would be up for contempt of court if I did not relinquish the children as stipulated, I was aware that this could mean a jail sentence…something my lawyer continually reminded me of…and I was aware that my children, who were only 10 and 12 at the time, were as serious as the repercussions of not following these orders…..

I remember staying awake for all night trying to work out some way of getting over this and without 1. Getting into trouble myself and 2. Without causing any further stress for the children. It was an extremely messy situation and one which a lot of parents find themselves in.

Despite the seriousness of being in contempt of court - I chose not to let my children go. I believed and still do, that they had every right and every say in whether they were to go to their father’s house or not. This is and was not a decision that can be made by parents alone, the children need to voice their desire and worries as well as being heard.

You can not control what the other parent says, does and accuses you of. I was accused of keeping his children from him, brainwashing them, turning them against him…you name it, it was said. He stood out the front of my home screaming abuse, threatening me, threatening me with the police and he did so for an hour and without any thought of what he was doing to the children. Mind you, the affect his ranting had on them was also my fault as I wouldn’t give the children to him. Long story short, or I’ll end up in a 20 page saga, I did not let the children go, I did not have charges of contempt placed on me and I did not have to face this situation ever again.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not suggesting anyone do this, I am not suggesting that it is ok to be in contempt of court and I am sure not suggesting that this is the right way to go about things – what I am putting forward is a simple plan if you are faced with this scenario.

I had nothing to go by when I was faced with it and I sure could have done with something, anything

I had done everything I could to prevent this scene from occurring and I attempted to cover all my bases. My main objective however, was my children.

If your child announces that they do not want to go on access visits:

Although it is easy to simply agree to their wishes, especially if you are not friendly with the ex, you need find out more information before you decide anything.

Encourage your child to talk but do not put words into their mouth. Let them explain to you, don’t try and explain their reasons to them.

Don’t just accept that they don’t want to go, ask why?

If their reasons are because the other parent told them off once or twice during the visit, or because they heard the word no a few times, explain to them that you do the same, that you also tell them no.  Maybe ask your child to explain the difference between you and the other parent when disciplining, again…don’t answer the question yourself, let them do it.

Keep a diary of when they come home sad, upset or angry, if they explain why, also note this.

Do not try and push for an answer, let them tell you in their own time.

Despite their reasons, let them know that you love and understand them and that you will always look out for them. Also explain that you have to be a good parent and be fair to mum or dad by making sure they, the kids, aren’t just feeling a little grumpy towards them.

If they still don’t want to go

If you can talk to the other parent:

Attempt to discuss what is happening with them as soon as you can.

Don’t begin the conversation with, ‘Jill doesn’t want to see you’. Try another approach other than being blunt. Start off with saying something like, ‘Sorry to bother you, but we have a little problem’

Ask them if they have any idea what has changed their child’s mind, but don’t let them know straight away what you have been told. This can make the other parent feel left out, betrayed and defensive.

Ask if you could have a weekend or two without access so as to try and work things out with the children.

If you can and only if it is a viable option, invite him/her around to talk to you and the children together about what is going on and why the kids are unhappy.

If the other parent still demands contact and is unreasonable

There really isn’t much you can do here. This is the scenario I found myself in, but If your child will not go, no one can or will physically force them to and neither should you.

Discuss with your lawyer what options you have and find out if it is better to be home or not for when contact is suppose to occur. I was told I would be better off being there with the children just in case the police were to be called, something that did happen to me.

The police were fantastic. They spoke with the children and were content with their decision to stay with me. They approached my ex and suggested he leave access be for a while until the children were ready to face him again. Admittedly he was not at all happy with this and it turned a little nasty, but the police then were able to handle it without me or the children having to be involved anymore.

Kids have a right to feel safe and this includes feeling safe with both parents. If they don’t, you need to investigate the reasons why and without any biasness, something which is extremely hard to do but manageable.

Sometimes in keeping our children safe, we find ourselves in situations less than desirable…but at the end of the day, it’s all about keeping them safe and knowing that they have you to trust in.

Hope this is helpful for someone…

Cheers

OB (OzBinky)

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lindaloca82009
December 2007 | lindaloca82009
Re: I don't want to go see daddy anymore...
I FEEL YOUR PAIN. MY SON IS IN THE SAME BOAT. HIS 3 YEAR OLD HATES TO GO SEE HER MOTHER. WE DON'T KNOW WHY YET BUT WE ARE GOING TO COURT. SHE WON'T LISTEN TO HER DAUGHTER OR US ABOUT THE PAIN SHE IS CAUSING HER DAUGHTER. AND THIS HAS GONE ON FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. HER MOTHER WALKED OUT ON HER THAT LONG AGO, SHE WAS ONLY 8 MONTHS OLD WHEN SHE LEFT WITH HER OTHER TWO KIDS. AND SHE DID NOT TRY TO SEE HER FOR ANOTHER 8 MONTHS. NOW SHE WANTS TO BE IN HER LIFE AND THE BABY DOES NOT WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH HER.SHE HAS NIGHTMARES AFTER BEING WITH HER. AND SHE WAKES UP SCREAMING "NO NO TAMMY'S HOUSE." THIS BREAKS MY HEART AND I AM HER GRANDMOTHER. I HAVE BEEN TOLD WE CAN NOT MAKE HER MOTHER DISSAPEER BUT WE ARE PRAYING THE COURTS CAN MAKE HER STAY AWAY TIL THE BABY IS READY FOR HER.BUT I HAVE NO FAITH IN THE COURTS,I KEEP HEARING THAT THE MOTHER HAS THE RIGHT TO BE WITH HER CHILD. BUT FOR A WOMEN WHO WHEN SHE WAS EXPECTING TOLD MY SON, IF THINGS DON'T WORK OUT FOR US , YOU KEEP THE BABY CAUSE I HAVE TWO OTHERS AND THIS IS YOUR FIRST CHILD. I HOPE AND PRAY YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN  ARE ALWAYS SAFE AND HAPPY.SOME PEOPLE SHOULD JUST NEVER BE PARENTS.


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MummyAmy
March 2007 | MummyAmy
Here's a question.....

What do you do when you turn up to pick the kids up and no one is home? Then you finally get in contact and the other parent says, " the kids don't want to come".

Two days later you ring the kids to see how they are and they are mad because you didn't pick them up. You say sorry but I came to get you but you weren't home and when I rang I was told you didn't want to come. Then the other parent accuses you of lying and won't let you see the kids for a whole month.

I agree if the child doesn't want to go because of something terrible going on with the other parent. I chose not to see my mother after she left and my father never forced me and I thank him for that everyday.

But how can the other parent be sure that they don't want to go and it's just to keep the parent they live with happy. That is the situation my husband found himself in and we now are suffering the side effects as the children live with us now. They get angry and say you didn't care before, why do you care now? This just isn't true but they were told that from a young age. 



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      MummyAmy
March 2007 | MummyAmy
Here's a question.....
I don't want to cause a problem but I would really like to know what you would suggest. The other parent even denies that my husband and I went to visit and stay with the children whilst they were in hospital.


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exquisite-flower
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | exquisite-flower
I would do same
I am facing something similar now it would seem,and i would do the same,it is E that counts most and her happiness is my priority.
Peace
EF.x 


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jaxsycam
4.00 (Good) | February 2007 | jaxsycam
good on you

i had the same problems with mum and dad growing up i know how your kids felt. it's hard saying something to your mum and put her in that position but you know mum will always make sure you feel safe and happy.



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LavendarGirl
4.00 (Good) | February 2007 | LavendarGirl
Messy Yucky stuff...
Great advice on a really difficult topic.  I'm always amazed when I learn how many other people go through this.  My experience is through my SIL going through this over the last 6 years and am now not surprised when I hear the latest installment of the last statement or action taken by her ex.  Unfortunately, he DID follow through his threat and brought the police one weekend.  How horrific for the kids?  What it did do though was show the kids that although mum supported them, she didn't have a choice.  It wasn't because she was weak or not on their side.  Not a great way for them to come to that realisation, but at least there was some positive out of it.  Thankfully, he did tell the eldest (girl) that when she was 12 she could make up her own mind about whether she wanted to see him or not, and he has respected that.  But he does insist on seeing her at Christmas.  The younger (boy) still sees his dad regularly.  Thanks for sharing OzBinky - great strategies for others working through the same situation.   LG xx


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jmrmumstheword
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | jmrmumstheword
good going

great article mate you have spoken about what most people have to go through, it's an extremely hard decision but it had to be done and and you are a true inspiration to others in the same situation

keep up the great work hun

nikki xx



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giftid3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | giftid3
On the mark!!
Good advice and direction to other parents who may find themselves in the same type of situation.  I recognise so much in your advice that I experienced during my marriage breakup.  Although the situations may have been different, the result was the same.  Today my boys are happy and have made their own minds up regarding their father and past behaviours.  They both love their father but they also know that they should never believe all that he says for he has proven time and again the folly of that.  I knew that they had to make their own decisions, but I continued to love and comfort them, regardless of how painful it was to see them in so much turmoil.  It was rather difficult to not include my own opinion when I saw their anguish, but it soon became apparent that any input from me would only worsen the wound made, and so "mum" was the word.  Their father knows now and is trying to make a difference but for my youngest, too little too late. (He's 16 now) I still encourage them to love their father anyway regardless for he is the only father they've got and even though he may not have shown it the way they wanted, he does love them.  What can you do?  Make them bitter adults... I don't think so.  It is better to teach them to be understanding towards the behaviours of others in order that they not become the same and to  accept others for who they are and not by what they say or do.  


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bug5
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | bug5
Re: i don't want to go see daddy anymore
My parents divorced when I was  younger and while my dad was given access to us on weekends and holidays he chose not to come and get us. Then when he finally decided that he wanted to have us we did not want to go with him and he was upset by this.  By rights our mother could have made us go with him but she decided that we were old enough to make our own decisions.  Now that I am older while I will never forget what I went through thinking that he only wanted us when it suited him, i now have an ok relationship with my father and talk and see him on regular occassions . I say to anyone in this position listen to what your children say and find out the reason's why they don't want to go. Take everything into consideration before making a decision.   maybe one day they will decide to have a relationship with their father when they feel ready.


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Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Wendigo
Gees you're good.

Kid's can miscommunicate a lot of things and they can change theri mind at the drop of a hat, but they aren't stupid either.  When it comes to the crunch they know what they want and need.  If I didn't want to see one of my parents I'd hate to have any court orders telling me I had no choice, I can only imagine how tough that could be on a kid.  That's why my ex and I did the best we could to be accomodating to each other with that regard so we didn't have to worry about that.

The closest experience we had with that was one day my boys were visiting the lady next door.  She was a lovely elderly lady that always gave my boys a biscuit when they went to visit (gee, I wonder why they liked going to see her?).  I called out to Aidan to come home to see his Dad, and he stuck his head out the door, looked at his dad, shrugged and replied "Nah, I don't want to see Dad, I'm visiting my friend!"  And promptly ran back inside.  My ex and I looked at each other blankly and then he said, "gees, I need to buy some biscuits!"



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      twinkletoes69
1.67 (Poor) | February 2007 | twinkletoes69
Gees you're good.
I am coming over for coffee and biscuits.
you do have coffee I hope?
Kids are like that and you do know how they feel.
The play station worked for a bit but now not even a car works.
the true fun was with bikes and doing things together.
but now they have there own friends your to old and crusty to hang out with them.
It must be hard on a mother not seeing there child and I know what some people think of a single mother as most do have the kids.
Cheers Matey


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Raine
4.50 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Raine
I don't want to go see daddy anymore.......
I am so glad I've never had to go through this as my 1st ex didn't want to see his daughter for about 12 years & by the time he got in touch with her she told him she wasn't interested, so he just disappeared again...the 2nd was told never to approach us again... THANKFULLY.

It's good to know how the other side feels, thanks so much for sharing


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      twinkletoes69
2.79 (Average) | February 2007 | twinkletoes69
I don't want to go see daddy anymore.......
hello.
Kids do know what they want at that age.


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      OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
I don't want to go see daddy anymore.......

I'm pleased for you guys that it happened that way.....its a lot nicer for all concered if it does.....

Thanks Raine for your comments....:)

Cheers

OB



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MadMel
4.73 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MadMel
Excellent!
Great article Lavinia. How horrible that you had to go through that. I hope I am never put in this situation :)


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      OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
Excellent!

Thanks sweetie...

I hope you never have to go through that either.....no one should have to....

 

Lavinia

 



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nell18-3
4.78 (Excellent) | February 2007 | nell18-3
Wow
Great article and very close to home for me right now
I hate my boys going with their dad and I have lots of people asking why I let them go, but the truth is that the boys want to see him and as long as they want to see him then I shall support them. i have saved this article for if the future the day ever comes when they dont want to see him
They have twice now refused to go until the following week, which has been a scary battle as it is. But I can find the inner strength I need to get through anything if I can make my boys happy, right now seeing dad makes them happy but one day ............
Thanks Lavinia
xxx


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      MadMel
4.81 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MadMel
Wow
Thanks for sharing that Nell. I am not in understanding of why you let them go still, which is something I have been wondering...
Cheers :)


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           nell18-3
4.56 (Excellent) | February 2007 | nell18-3
Wow
Thankyou
Secretly I'm longing for the day they say those magic words " don't want to go see daddy anymore"

We were watching a TV show today about emigrating to Australia and the boys were thinking how great it looked but they would miss nan and grandad, I said 'what about dad' and the youngest said 'he doesn't care about us....' Isn't that sad
xxx



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                OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
Wow

That is sad Nell....but this is his doing, not yours.....

Lavinia

 



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      OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
Wow

It was that for me at one point too....

The kids would come home crying, upset and angry but still insist in going for access each FN...I hated it - but like you, I supported them wanting to go.....and then when the time came I supproted them not wanting to go too...

Its such a fight sometimes to do whats right for the kdis.....and it just shouldn't be like that....ever!!

Thanks Nell......

Cheers

Lavinia



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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | breannababy
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Well done Lavinia,this is  a very tough situation and we all need ways of helping to guide us in a responsible manner for our Kids hugs Merle


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      OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
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Thanks Merle

Lavinia



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Kellzacar
4.71 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Kellzacar
Access

Hi there - this article was very close to home for me as when Sam was 5 she began saying she didn't want to go. She would run and hide just at the sight of daddy's car in the driveway.

BUT we had a court order and at 5 there was nothing i could do, i hand to hand her over, she would kick, scream bite and really yell because she didn't want to go. Alarms bells rang for me so i took her to see a therapist and they could find NO abuse or acceptable reason for Sam's refusal so i had to continue making her go.

THEN on Sam's 13th birthday she announced "right now it's my choice and if i say no to going to dad's then i'm not going" and she didn't. He kicked up but there was nothing he could do the courts respected her decision.

Since then she has had maybe 3-4 visits per year and their relationship is strained. AND Sam is still angry at me for making her go for all those years.

So i would have to agree - if your child says NO then listen and listen carefully! Keep a diary and even video the behaviour if you can . . .  who know's one day you may just need it.



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      MadMel
4.25 (Good) | February 2007 | MadMel
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Did you find out why she didnt want to go? That is some severe protesting...


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           Kellzacar
4.43 (Good) | February 2007 | Kellzacar
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Hi Mel,

Nope Sam has still not given me any real details as to why she kicked up for so long. All i know is that his NOW ex-wife was not very nice to Sam but from what i can gather her anger over it all is more directed at her dad!

These days he says to me, "I haven't heard from Sam in ages" and i usually respond with "well you are the adult, have you made any contact" . . .  it never goes down well.

Than Sam say's "stuff him" so i try and remain neutral looking when inside i am dying to know the issues BUT she wont go into any details . . . .



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                MadMel
4.33 (Good) | February 2007 | MadMel
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wow. well maybe one day she will be ready to tell you. I am sure she will


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      OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
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Its so hard for the kids to understand but ya know, one day she will sit there and get it all. She'll understand why you had to keep to these orders.

Ya know, I can't udnersatnd the other parents in situations like this....If you have a child kicking and screaming, yelling out that they don't want to go.....they should walk away and say ok....not force them to get in a car....

Its not just traumatic of the child, but also the parent that has to let their child go. I hated these days so much....I even went as far as telling my ex some weeks that the kids couldn't go as they were sick with  gastro.

Thanks for your comments matey...

Lavinia

 



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cookclan
4.78 (Excellent) | February 2007 | cookclan
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You know we used to have to provide the kids to the change over point and make sure they were available and then we would say they do not want to go to their mum and then the kids would refuse to get out of the car....It was really hard on them but it was something we had to do for the courts to cover our butts......It was hard on the kids but they did not want to go and john now says he is nopt going to his mums and hasnt for over a year.....
Mwah
Angie


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      OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
Access

Its horrible isn't it......I think the kids need to be heared more often in court so they are not put in that situation. One uncomfortable experience talking to the judge is far less stressful than having to say no to a parent......

Our laws are for the most...an ass!!

Thanks Angie

Lavinia



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michellei
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | michellei
I don't want to go see daddy anymore.......
Thank you for a very emotional article.
So many people forget about their childrens feelings and use them like pawns.
But the children should always come first, which I think you demonstrated quite clearly.


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      OzBinky
4.57 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
I don't want to go see daddy anymore.......

Thanks matey....

Cheers

Lavinia



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