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To smack or not to smack: Consistant discipline

bron by bron Speaking(February 2007) (rank 382nd)
The old saying goes "Spare the rod and spoil the child". I smacked all my kids and they behave themselves and have become responsible young people, but that was a while ago and times have changed. My eldest daughter does not smack and rarely raises her voice and
(I hate to say it) her kids are brats. They are rude and rarely use manners, they snatch things off her and get no punishment for it. I understand that it is her choice not to smack and I respect her decision. However, all kids need good consistent discipline, I find that if I look at her kids with a stern face and say calmly that Grandma will not do or get anything unless the kids say "please Grandma", I get good results. Sometimes a disapproving look can work just as well.

If you tell your child that if they continue with their bad behaviour that they will be punished (in whichever way you choose), and they continue...carry out the punishment. The punishment itself can entail exclusion from an event, time out, and does not necessarily have to be a smack. It all depends what works best for your child, and which method you have found works the best. However, if you make idle threats that you do not intend to carry out,  the child only learns that they have 'gotten away with it' and their bad behaviour will not be punished.

Set realistic rules that everybody in the house must live by, and explain the consequences for breaking the rules. Obviously you will have to choose an appropriate disciplinary method dependant on the age of your child. If you do choose to smack your child, never smack when you're angry. After you have disciplined your child, wait a little while and then explain to them why their behaviour was not acceptable and why they were punished.

Whichever disciplinary method parents choose,  all kids need to understand that bad behaviour will not be tolerated, and that the rules are there for their protection. Kids need to know where the boundaries are and that good behaviour is rewarded and bad behaviour is punished. We all have a responsibility as parents (and grandparents) to ensure that our kids know the difference between good and bad, so that they grow up to be responsible adults. Whether smacking or not smacking, it's discipline that is important and the key is to be consistant.

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MummaBear
4.64 (Excellent) | July 2007 | MummaBear
Re: To smack or not to smack: Consistant discipline
You don't need to smack or punish to enforce good manners.  I've always simply encouraged mine to say ta or please or ask nicely and now if she says "Can you get me a drink of water" I ask what the magic word is and she says please.  There's not been smacking or punishment involved for not using manners.  I have smacked out of reflex but wouldn't go telling people that kids need a smack.  You are 100% correct that kids need discipline and it needs to be consistent.  Children need to know what's expected of them.  They need to know the boundaries, they need to have consequences, and it needs to be fitting with whatever they've done.  If Hannah refuses to wash her hands after playing with the dog, she's not to play with the dog for a day or the afternoon.  That sort of thing.  Very well written advice.


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llmunchkin
4.64 (Excellent) | July 2007 | llmunchkin
Re: To smack or not to smack: Consistant discipline
I believe in consistency - I don't see how smacking can improve any situation.  We don't want our kids to bully or hit anyone smaller than them - so what kind of image does it present if we do the same?

I was smacked, just enough to sting, and if anyone was around, it was more humiliating and infuriating than anything, it certainly didn't make me behave - it made me more determined to do whatever I liked.  It is a punishment that lacks intelligence, and it often isn't a punishment that fits the crime. (If it did, the police wouldn't arrest people, they'd put them over their knees and give them a good spanking wouldn't they?  Missing out on dessert, being given extra chores, having privileges removed and being grounded are far more distressing to a child or teenager than a smack. 

It is a shame about your grandchildren, your daughter is making a rod for her own back, and unfortunately for them, they will find it hard to assimilate in society, as other kids won't tolerate their behaviour, or want to include them in their games etc.  Stick to your guns and be persistent, at least they will have love and respect for you, and they will learn to behave in a manner that is appropriate when with you.


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exquisite-flower
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | exquisite-flower
Consistency is key
My parents support the discipline I use even though it is slightly different to their methods.  However, when we are staying in their home E must toe the line, because if she breaks thier rules then she gets punished and it is same discipline as i use, but because it is her beloved darling and papa dishing it out it is much much worse.  I really appreciate that they support me in this way because it provides the consistency E needs.  And because of this sometimes they suggest ways i might chage the way I reposnd to E to make life easier all around, and I listen, because they respect my parenting, I respect their suggestions, and so far every idea that I have accepted and taken on board has worked. 

So to all parents and grandparents - work together, maintain consistency for the children, and respect each other, you all have valid views and methods.  But combining them can strangthen you as well.
Peace
EF.x 


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      bron
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | bron
Consistency is key

Yes I agree completely. Grandparents and parents do need to work together, and listen to each other.



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4BOYZ
4.42 (Good) | February 2007 | 4BOYZ
Discipline
I think every child needs a good smack when they have done something really wrong. I was raised being smacked, I hated it at the time but now I respect my parents for doing it. Now I smack my kids, and I will continue to do so and I really don't care what people think.


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      bron
4.46 (Good) | February 2007 | bron
Discipline

Thank you for your comments. Whichever form of discipline you choose, be consistent.



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jenlemen
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | jenlemen
mixed feelings
i like the idea of being consistent with limits, but the idea of smacking always makes me nervous.  but that's just me.  thanks for sharing your point of view.


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      bron
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | bron
mixed feelings

I don't think it matters whether or not parents smack or not, I think the key is to be consistent with whichever method of discipline you choose. Thanks for your coments.



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | nell18-3
Discipline
I did smack my children but only if the situation called for it and NEVER in temper.
I think everyone disciplines their children in a way that suits them best.
But you are absolutely right about carrying through a punishment no child will ever listen if they know that the punishment will never happen.
Good article
xx


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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | breannababy
consistancy
is the key and we each have to do what we feel suits our beliefs


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yasmin78
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | yasmin78
Kids need discipline
I agree that whatever method of discipline a parent chooses needs to be age appropriate and consistent. As you've said it doesn't have to be a smack, but it does need to be a swift punishment so they are not confused as to what they've done wrong. I've never agreed with the old "wait til your father gets home" type tactic that I've seen many parents rely on. The situation needs to be dealt with immediately, especially with younger ones who's short term memory hasn't fully developed yet.


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      bron
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | bron
Kids need discipline
Yes I agree with you completely, a parent must deal with a situation as soon as it occurs. Thanks for your comments


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TheMentorMom
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | TheMentorMom
I agree...
Consistency IS the key!  My kids know I say what I mean and I mean what I say, e.g., if I say I'm gonna take it if the bickering doesn't stop, I'm gonna take it!  Consistency is hard, but it sure pays off in the end :)


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      bron
4.13 (Good) | February 2007 | bron
I agree...
Consistency...in my opinion is the most important part.


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angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | angelmum
Totally right
Discipline and consistant discipline yes, teaching your children right from wrong, they also learn from example.  My parents raised 7 of us and never used smacking as a discipline, but we always knew we would not be able to get away with anything, I remember been grounded many a time, I show my children respect and in return they show me respect, they are not perfect children they are normal children, you go to a pre-school or school and you don't see teachers or carers smacking or raising their voice they teach them what they are doing is wrong and then show them the right way, positive teaching not negative, little people seem to respond to this so much better and so do us big people


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cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | cookclan
Well written
No matter what people decide for discipline....CONSISTENCY is definately the key isn't it.......
Cheers
Angie


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monyq83
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | monyq83
Brilliant advice

Im glad Im not the only parent out there that thinks the same thing. My children know about it when they are in trouble, and as a result, Im probably just being bias here, but they really are great, well behaved kids. (most of the time.) and they are children that make me proud that my fiance and i have raised them so well.

so yes, discipline really needs to be followed through with, and the whole spare the rod spoil the child thing is a load of codswallop if you ask me!



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      monyq83
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | monyq83
Brilliant advice
i cant believe i just said codswallop rofl how old am i???


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