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Managing your children's friend choices

matthew by matthew Minti Founder(June 2006) (rank 41st)

Taken from a recent blog post response I thought I would flip this topic into an article and perhaps prompt some discussion :)

Sometimes you may find your child is getting close to another child whose behaviour is unacceptable or concerning to you.  Should you "manage" your child's friend choices in such an event and how could this be done in a positive way.

Although I am not a parent yet I know that my own mother had a definite hand in discouraging me from "hanging around" with the "wrong crowd".  Personally I think (with the benefit of hindsight) this was a very good thing for me and has resulted in some excellent long term friendships with many great people who had a similar "respectful and giving" upbringing to myself. 

As background I am from a divorced family and was raised for by my mother with two younger brothers, I saw my Dad on weekends and he played an important parenting role but was not as present as my mother.

If my mother met a friend of mine who was poorly behaved, or clearly had a bit of a nasty side she would find ways to discourage me from playing with them. 

Excuse me for typing mum instead of mom as they spell the word differently down here in Australia...  Anyways here are some examples: 

  • suggesting other friends come visit and that she does something special with us if that preferred friend comes over (instead of the one my mum did not like) - this was quite a positive way to deal with it.
  • finding excuses why I could not go over to that friends house when I was invited - eg:  we can't because you and I are doing....[X] together at that time...
  • making "observations" about the bad friends behaviour that would raise questions in my own mind (never making judgements but only stating stuff like:  "It was strange how [Tommy] didn't let you play with [X] don't you think Matt?"

She avoided making judgements as this could just get me upset and argumentative in defense of my new "cool" friend..

Well here are a few ideas and I must say that my Mum's judgement was VERY GOOD about people in my pre-teen years.  Once I reached teenage years her ground-work had been done and (like all teenagers) I would not listen to Mum much at that age anyway ;)

Does anyone have other suggestions or comments on this topic?

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darkangel6976
June 3rd | darkangel6976
Re: Managing your children's friend choices

wow your mum knew her stuff and was a wise woman! My son has adhd and he is very easily swayed into peer groups that I wouldn't want him to get into, there are some not so well behaved children at his new school and I want him to have good friends that show respect to others and follow kind rules. with my son the way he is it can be hard to try and get him to understand why other people's behaviour can rub off on him so easily but the advice above has really helped me and I will follow those simple suggetions!!



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FremantleDocker
April 10th | FremantleDocker
Re: Managing your children's friend choices

I have done this with my own children, and they've thanked me for it as they remember the children they used to hang around are now getting into trouble with the law, and done so much bad stuff. Great advice



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mummy2girls
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | mummy2girls
Re: Managing your children's friend choices

mum was obviously very cluey!

i wish it was that easy sometimes i think my three year old has already hit her teens!!!

seriously i think i've been able to influence her friend choices a liitle but i don't want to push her too much...



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vlooi
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | vlooi
Re: Managing your children's friend choices
Good advice from your mum.  I have had to help "manage"  the friends my children bring home too but as they are now all pretty much grown up, this is no longer needed.  Once in the teenage years, the managing thing becomes a whole lot more difficult and I found that as Matt has said, they don't listen to you much then any way and if you have done the job right, they will maybe hang around the wrong friends for a bit, and you have to let them.  Providing the groundwork is there, they will soon see the error and change.  My daughter in particular is good at this, but should I at any time suggest that there may be an issue with a particular friend, she would dig her heels in!  Look at what happened when she met this bloke on the internet and he came to see her (see advice - different things for different people).  Giving her the space to make her own mind up, was a much better option.


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August88
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | August88
Re: Managing your children's friend choices
Your mum was a wise women and I shall take this advise and use, I already do the making excuses why X can't sleep over, come out with us etc. School night is my main one. Observations is a good one. Subtle. Thanks Matt.


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pinkninjaprincess
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | pinkninjaprincess
teachers say my daughter is being dominated
GOOD ARTICLE>  we live in a failrly small community and have 90 children in our local village infants school. My daughters reception class is a split class so the pupils number 18. Of this 9 are girls. At both termly parents evenings my daughter's teacher has told us that my daughter's best friend is a terrible influence on her going so far as to say that they should be in seperate classes if possible next year. Very worried if the teacher has raised this as a suggestion it must be a serious concern. Very worried if the classes are split along the same lines next year and she is moved how she would cope with this, she is the youngest in the whole school.


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      Tadexpress
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Tadexpress
teachers say my daughter is being dominated

I would suggest you take your concerns back to the teacher and ask for clarification and how they see the move imporving things for your daughter. I know it is hard when these things happen and it may well be that separating them into different classes is the best thing academically for your child, it could be that this child dominates her so much in class that it is interferring with your daughters learning...I would be very concerned if this was happening in a reception class my understanding of reception being 4-5 years olds but thats not to say that it cant happen, it could be that this other child dominates your daughter so much that she's picking and choosing tasks, activities and who can or cant be her friend. So make an appointment with her teacher to further investigate the situation.



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           pinkninjaprincess
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | pinkninjaprincess
teachers say my daughter is being dominated
Good advice - as usual! thanks. xx


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chris35
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | chris35
Those influential friends..
I am so glad to have found this little disscussion! I am going through all this now with my 13.5 yo daughter.. Very difficult times, but good to read comments!


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johnmorr
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | johnmorr
Friend Choices
I think, yeah, we need to field some of our children's chioce of whom they befriend. And I also agree with the way your mum did the trick . . . there all the way till peer pressure began calling the shots. Her involvement laid the foundation from which your selection of friends stem from.  Well done MUM!


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RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | RebeccaDorant
friend choices
this is so true, but be carful with how you percieve the friends, i was once on the recieving end of this...when i was younger i met a suposedly good catholic family and got along well with their son and everything was good for a while until i told them i was not catholic  and at the same time he came out and told them he was gay... and because the parents had a problem with their son being friends with a non cathloic and they blamed me for his being gay...huh?...it all turned sour after that... we were good friends and my parents taught me good morals and manners... i was not a trouble maker at all but just because of a diffence in religion and a slightly askew curcumstance, their son and i lost our friendship. this is not a dig at cathloics and definatly not a dig at gay people ok, just this family were sooooo judgmental and gave me no chance.


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guzzigalcats
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | guzzigalcats
Managing your children's friend choices

What and excellent article Matt. Well said and great advice and I agree that your mum's advice was right. The amount of times that I now look back and remember what my mum said about a particular group or her advice about how to react to certain people whom may want to go behind their parents back, my mum was right about them and hundreds of other things later on in life. I suppose it goes to sure that the saying "mum knows best" and mum and grandparents advice never goes out of fashion and is solid and reliable advice.

Well done Matt great article

Guzzigalcats.

 



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Frontier
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Frontier
Choosing Friends for your child.
My first experience with this was when other parents would actively "hassle" teachers to place their children in classes with "suitable" peers. I am proud to say that one mother lobbied to have her child in the same class as my eldest son (7) as he is well behaved and a good learner.
One thing I would be in fear of is if he knocks around with others who may change his behavior to fit in with them.
I keep a good feel on his peers by helping out at the school and inviting his friends to play at home and networking with the other parents at the school.
We can only hope this is enough to keep me in the loop.


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lamadona
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | lamadona
My experience with own children.....

When I became a parent for the first time, I read,  on child development, discipline etc...

Unfortunately the books available at that time where more theoretical....not much written from personal experience...this is why I find Minti so stimulating...is truly touching to witness how parents are helpful to each other without judgement.

Now....this is what I can say of my own experience when my children have gravitated towards the "wrong" crowd.

Seams to me that the best teacher for our children (more then parents words of advice) is Natural Consequences.....Our children would learn that ..ie the water would spill if the cup is tip  or the kitten would scratch if we pull his tail etc. therefore, we should use a simple language to describe things to children _enough to stimulate their brain development and to not much to oversaturate them with info that goes no where_ Seams to be the rule as they grow older as well.

If our communicating is simple and in tune to their brain development the message gets across and even better allowing a time for a Natural Consequence  to occurred. ie I may say to my 5 yr old (now 61/2) Luchia remember the rules by the pool "is not running" but because of her age she needs more repetition...before doing that I observe to see if she applies the rule....If she didn't  I just let the 'Lifeguard' reinforce  it. So she knows that is not just me. There are other authorities in her life that agree with what we say. How this applies in children social interactions and friendships of children who are not raise between our Life Ethics??? Aside from being a constant Silent Vigilant we should state our Home Rules from the moment our children are verbal. In our house there is No derogatory language towards anyone and if at the park or school we encounter people who uses that way of talking. First of all we can't put our children in a "Bubble" to be untouchable...they have to see the world for what it is around them, My children would begin to say "Oh mom You don't know but so and so say such and such words"  I say

"YES? I see" WE don't " Is not okay in our family. Is pretty much my answer, then.... I ask...what would you say? sometimes their own answer are just wonderful....

Boundaries with LOVE...the same as when some parents do "Time Outs" we have to be consistent for things to have a meaning and be effective.

When our children begin to gravitate towards the wrong crowd I just breath deeply and observe to see how things unfold...I always what to know Where, when. who and how when it comes to my teenagers and most definitely I like parents contact info.

My children always know this to be the rules...and YES! my teen girl got her  heart broken by who they though it was their best friend (wrong crowd child) and I hold her  and say how much I love her...while she experience a Natural Consequence...Inside of me I was Sad for her pain and Happy that she was able to realise who was not her true Friend. That child is a young adult now with no direction in her life, doing drugs, drinking...College drop out. My child is in college in England..finish building a Cob House in Wales as a volunteer in a farm and would go back to her next term at her college..... on her holiday breaks.... she travel Europe..She is 21 and a very responsible young Woman.

We are from the USA where the "Wrong Crowd" could be in the Best of Families....yet being a consistent with our values is sometimes the best we can do for our children to build an inner strength to face the world as is.

PS I apologize for the rant and I hope it makes sense to you and most importantly I hope is of some help to someone....I want to remind you that I have a 6 yr old (soon to be 7) a 14 yr old and a 21 yr old. Thank you for reading!



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      matthew
4.68 (Excellent) | March 2007 | matthew
My experience with own children.....

Great response - you should really consider writing an article about your experiences with so much to share

Thanks for the positive comments on Minti too !



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ollie71
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2006 | ollie71
Finding friends that don't use you.

I was a culprit of this most of my friend manipulated me into  doing things.  My mum was not happy about this.

Amazingly though this same girl is still one of my closest friends.  My mum was very strict in who I spent my spare time with.

I to now watch the amount of time Ty spends with children and what influence they bring upon him.  I will try to steer him toward other children that parents have the same value systems as myself.  In the end I hope he will be able to make good choices as a teenager.

My brother seemed to have a sticker on him "Rebel".  He by no means was a problem child at school but all the problem children seem to flock to him. 

If we impart good values on our children that it will rub off and then they can make good life choices.

O



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ollie71
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2006 | ollie71
Finding friends that don't use you.

I was a culprit of this most of my friend manipulated me into  doing things.  My mum was not happy about this.

Amazingly though this same girl is still one of my closest friends.  My mum was very strict in who I spent my spare time with.

I to now watch the amount of time Ty spends with children and what influence they bring upon him.  I will try to steer him toward other children that parents have the same value systems as myself.  In the end I hope he will be able to make good choices as a teenager.

My brother seemed to have a sticker on him "Rebel".  He by no means was a problem child at school but all the problem children seem to flock to him. 

If we impart good values on our children that it will rub off and then they can make good life choices.

O



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Jessgore
4.93 (Excellent) | September 2006 | Jessgore
Yep agreed...
My parents were very up front about it... But never stopped me from seeing the people I wanted to hang out with... They would would as you say make little comments that would make me think twice about my friendship, and if I did not take the hint my dad would usually come out and tell me that he did not like them....   But he said it was my choice to make.... He would always give me a reason why... But this would not always work for all kids I guess... For me telling me straight out helped because dad was the local cop in any town we lived in and if my friends were doing anything unlawful or that I thougth was wrong, (and my father had told me that he did not like them because yadda yadda yadda) I was usually to scared to go along with it for fear that I'd give my dad a bad name. Weird that, I was not scared of getting caught but what it might do to my dad.... Any way if there was a way of showing kids that parents seem to be always right (as mine were) it would have made things so easy. I did not realize my parents were always right until I had moved out of home.... And then there were times I used to ring them up and say.. Thanks and I am sorry I did not listen to you the first time.....


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nomes
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2006 | nomes
this has helped me

I have for months and months tried to find a way to stop two particlar children playing with my son.  I don't trust them, I don't like them and they are sadistic little creatures.  I never let Luke go to their houses or go outside with them.  They always come into my house, but lately I have found several excuses to tell the children why they can't come and play, like dinner time, sleep time, sick etc.  I have guilt for my feelings, but am quickly consoled by the fact I am only protecting my child.  Luke asked if one of them could come over and play one day, and I found myself wanting to tell him my thoughts on the child, but didn't of course.  For now, I know the suggestions you have made, Matt, will help me.  I also agree with hrs' take on a child being a positive influence.  But, in Luke's case, the two children are about 5 years older than him, so it's a whole other story there.

I'm not looking forward to dealing with this during teen years and hope I have the same fortune as your mum...what a woman 



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hrs2004
4.79 (Excellent) | June 2006 | hrs2004
Difficult

This isn't something I have really pondered much yet, partly because all my daughter's friends are the children of my friends or relatives. One thing I will throw in to the mix is to make sure that judgements are based on the right things. It may well be that the child behaving badly is not getting the right guidance at home, and could benefit from a nice, well-mannered child as a friend. They may not be a bad influence, but your child might be a good one. My boyfriend has told me of a friend of his as a child who had such a poor homelife that, at 10, he still couldn't use a knife or fork. My BF's mum had him back for dinner on many an occasion, taught him table manners and even how to use a toilet properly. Just think how much positive influence you could bring to one child.

Having said all of this, I agree that if I can see an out and out nastiness or rebellious streak in a new friend, I would try to influence rather than ban. As Tracey mentioned, too tough an approach might just lead to the new friend becoming more alluring, and your parent / child relationship being undermined.



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lindterbean
4.32 (Good) | June 2006 | lindterbean
more!
I have found that this gets trickier and trickier the older the child gets. I would love to hear more suggestions along these lines!

Thanks!


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      tracey
4.57 (Excellent) | June 2006 | tracey
Re: more!

I agree. I'd love to hear what people say who have been there. It does get trickier but I think it's a skill worth working on. My daughter is a good judge of character thus far but I know I can't always bank on that. I think it is really important to be aware of her friends but as Matt said, there's a fine line between trying to gently guide your kids within their relationships and being judgemental about their friends. My mom was always judgemental and it made me not want to tell her the "dramatic" parts of my relationships. That's not good.

I hope more people post about this. It's a great topic Matt!



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allyp
4.71 (Excellent) | June 2006 | allyp
Re: Managing your children's friend choices

I think that sounds great. I think that is something that I will remember for when my baby grows up. Thanks!!



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