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For the love of a child

lexiw by lexiw Young Parent(February 2007) (rank 10th)

I am writing about my experience here and I hope it helps someone deal with this thing that happens to so many children

I regulry get phonecalls from a friend who can not handle her son. She has a very hard time getting him to interact with the family

and at school. She calls me so she can have a bit of a rest and so can he. This boy has been through his parents seperating, His father dying of a heart attack, He watched someone he loved and adored die in a car accident he was then molested and lost somebody he thought of as family to cancer. This boy has been through stuff that not many adults have let alone a young boy.

I got a phone call the other day to go and get him which I did but when I got there something was different. This boy had been beaten around the head. I was so very angry all I wanted to do was cause violence to his mother and her boyfriend, But what I did do was walk away. I took the boy and left. I spoke to a very good friend on the phone who helped me to calm down and look at things rationally. His mother then phoned me the next day and wanted to come and pick him up but i told her she wasn't going to do that and explained to her what her sons face looked like and that I had video eveidence and that the authorities were going to be informed. The boy had to black eyes, a cut on his nose and scratches on his neck. The mother was not happy that I would not let her get her son but There was no way in hell that boy was going anywhere. I asked her what did she think might happen next time how much worse could it be.

I got a phonecall a few hours later and she said that she realised that things had gone to far. She said the boyfriend was moving out and that she was so very sorry and she wanted me to ask the boy if he would come home now that the boyfriend was leaving. I told her it was great that the B/F was leaving but that that wasn't the only thing that needed fixing and she agreed.

I am hoping that the authorities here do something about the situation but unfortunately it is more likely that they won't. I am going to make sure that this is fixed. I am looking into hypnotherapy for the boy and possibly the mother too. I have borrowed a meditaion book from the library that I think may help the boy it is for children. The boy wants to go home in few days for a trial period. I am not liking the idea but he is twelve and the mother has removed the boyfriend so I have agreed. I think it is important that kids are with their parents if the parent in this particular case is willing to really fix things.

If you see child abuse or know that it is happening please report it. Far to many children are killed because of abuse.

 

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nfrethem
June 2008 | nfrethem
Re: For the love of a child

You should definately be alerting the authorities immediately but picking up the son and withholding him from his mother (regardless of whether it is an abusive situation) could be considered kidnapping.  Be careful with your actions in this situation - you don't want to include yourself and your family with their mess.  Call child protective services, call the police every chance you can get.  The system has failed before but it's important to trust it before taking the law into your own hands - for your own good.  No one will be there to protect that child or look out for his best interests if you get sent to jail or have criminal actions filed against you.



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lisasmith140483
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | lisasmith140483
Re: For the love of a child
OMg girl you are sensational if there were more people in this world willing to not just stand up for but protect our children form this world it would be fantastic.. My hats off to you sweetie. well done


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Deborahsc2203
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Deborahsc2203
i want to say
Lexi the world needs more angels like you xxxxx thank god for you


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iancherine
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | iancherine
3 cheers for you!!

Well done to you for helping one child in this world that needed it. There are so many children out there in abusive homes that people don't even try to help. They just look away. This is very sad. CONGRATULATIONS!! There should be more people like you out there trying to protect the children who will be our future one day. Cherine.



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llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | llmunchkin
Oh dear...
That poor boy, what kind of life is that for anyone?  Then, to be beaten to boot!  Thank goodness for him that you are there and you cared enough to stick your neck out and put it on the chopping block to help him, instead of turning a blind eye and leaving well enough alone.  There is NO excuse for what has happened to him, and even though it is easier not to become involved, you couldn't possibly walk away from a child in need... Any child in need.  Good on you sweetie - I wish I could help you, in fact, if I can, let me know!


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mcm
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mcm
Cause a stir
I think having a debate is good. I am opinionated yet reserved so I don't need to say anything but thankyou Lexi for your article. it has opened up awareness i think.


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MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MummaBear
There is No Excuse for Abuse
Wow, this has really taken off hasn't it! I still feel that child abuse talked about it child abuse prevented.  If we don't talk about it, like happened years ago, nothing will change. The more it is talked about, the more our children know they can tell someone, the less likely it is to continue.  I have always told my daughter that she needs to tell someone, anyone she trusts, if anyone ever hurts her. I have explained the many ways people can hurt her and she understands most of it.  I know she's only 3, but she is very switched on. She tells her daycare teachers, swimming teacher and her grandmother every time she gets a little smack, every time I sit her in the corner, every time she gets roused on because I've told her about unacceptable behaviour and how she needs to tell someone what's going on and how she feels about it.  She tells me if she was in trouble at daycare or if one the kids hit her, she tells me why too.  I think teaching children these things, talking about it in the community, is the most effective way of putting an end to child abuse.  THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR ABUSE!  I think the more people there are in the world who are willing to step in and take a child, the more people there are to share these stories, the less it will happen in the future as child abusers rely on secrecy. Without it, they can't hide and they can't keep doing it.  Good on you for writing this article and causing such a stir, we have all learnt alot from this.


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RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | RebeccaDorant
so sorry lexi

after rereading the article and some of the other comments left in this thread i am truly sorry if i have offended or hurt you in any way... wendigo is right you have named no names and you did offer to help the mother so i am sorry that i accused you of those things... minti is a place for advice and help and if that help comes in the form of a personal experience then so shall it be... once again i am trully sorry and i hope that you can forgive at least one of the silly protesters on this thread... :)'s for you for being the hero



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lilysmom
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lilysmom
Advice on abuse.

This thread is completely out of hand. All lexi did was write about her experience in the hope that it would inspire someone else who has witnessed child abuse to report it. I don't know if the "people" who keep giving her grief on it are the same person or not, but this has got to stop! It's a great article.
And clover... sending your kid to their room is not abuse. Neither is giving them a time out, grounding them from going out with their friends, or from the computer or the phone or whatever. Giving them 2 black eyes is abuse, and there is nothing that any kid could do that woud warrent getting the crap beat out of them!
Children need to be given the necessities of life: proper food, proper shelter, proper clothing and education, and a safe place to call home, where they don't get beat. That is it.



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clover
1.67 (Poor) | February 2007 | clover
clover

well im not porky, sorry i wish i had the courage of the pig.

 did it occur to lexiw that the child is at home now does she expect that

she will see him again to do any thing about the abuse ?

i think that we are all allowed our own opinion ,i thought thats what this site was all about????

how many of you send your chlid too there room ???'' thats abuse to ''

one more question what did this child do, to make the parents mad enough to use phisical abuse?

if you can answer my questions please do

clover



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      kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | kiarasmom2005
clover

Clover,

Has one of your friends or someone close to you ever been beat by there husband or boyfriend? I hope not, because I am sure that you may have asked them what they did to really piss him off right? SO , I am guessing that if your sister or mom or friend or whatever said or did something it's their fault right? I think if you did they wouldn't be comin to you for help now would they? I bet if that being their friend you might say to them "it doesn't matter what you said to him honey, a man should never hit a woman. It's not right"

answers to your questions:

Even if that child is at home now, if it happened again I bet ya that he knows he has somewhere to run next time it happens because someone finally showed him that such a thing exsists.

yes opinions are deffinately allowed however, there are very touchy subjects that are standard throughout the world. Here in canada, if a person goes to jail for harming or molesting a child, they actually put them away from the other inmates so they don't get killed in jail. irony huh?

sending your child to their room is not child abuse....it is a discipline and teaching tool, I know that they teach in parent books that timeouts and sending children to their room is acceptable, hitting them is not.

I really wouldn't envy that kind of courage, because like lex i have had to call the authorities for child abuse myself, and that is the most heart wrenching, gut ache, anxiety causing thing that a person would ever have to do. You don't know where that child might go,  whether to a descent foster home or to someone else who has just getting paid to have kids in their house.

Like I have said before, having kids is a gift and a priviledge not a right. Anyone can make a baby but it takes a real selfless person to be a parent.

 



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janicepovey
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | janicepovey
Advice On Abuse
Good on you Lexi, advice on abuse can come in any shape or form. Many people hide behind closed doors and as long as the abuse is not happening to them they don't want to know about it and thats a real shame because when your the one being abused to the point that you know your life hangs in the balance,you wish those people behind closed doors would come out and do something to HELP you.The more awareness of abuse, the more likely something will be done to help the person being abused. Their are many minti friends out there that have experienced some form of abuse in their lifetime and they know the scars of abuse stay with you for rest of your life. There were many a times through out my life that didn't think i was going to make  through  to the morning because of  violent abuse and i wished many a times for someone like lexi to come and save me but they never did.  Abuse is like cancer was a decade ago no one wanted to talk about just in case they caught it, well we need to talk about it because if we don't it will just keep happening.


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Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Wendigo
Another line of conversation that has gotten out of hand.

It happens, unfortunately, and I'm not going to go pointing any fingers here.  What I will say is that Lexi has written an excellent advice article that pertains to a personal situation.  She has not given any names or contact details, and as such has maintained the confidentiality of everyone involved.  Whether or not this story is completely true is not the important part as it is the message that the advice is sending is the important.

Accusing someone of telling lies about a personal experience is outrageous, public slander (which this is not) is the only valid exception.  If it was a case of public slander, it would be a reportable offence and should be reported, not commented on.

In this advice, Lexi expressed her disapproval of the mother's actions but did not directly degrade her as a person.  She also expressed a wish to get the mother the help required to better care for her son so that no further instances of abuse would occur. This would benefit everyone concerned, and is in favour of the mother and child having a safe and happy relationship.  There is no problem with anything that Lexi has written here.

For people to place derogatory comments, unwarrented accusations, and to behave in a negative manner is against the grain of what Minti is about.  Minti is about friendship, support, and a helping hand to those in need. It is acceptable to disagree with something that has been written, but such instances should attract constructive critism and healthy debate. If any member can not respect this and comment appropriately, then this is probably not the place for them to be.

We can not dictate to each other how we parent our children - after all, we don't like others doing it to us, and it's not our place to do it to anyone else. What works for one family may not work for another.  We need to keep this in mind and be respectful of each other in that regards. We can give advice, we can accept advice, we can ignore advice.  We should not sit by and do nothing whilst someone, anyone, suffers in any way, but we can't force anyone to do something about it.  Encouragement and diplomacy is the key.  Nagging and harassment will only turn the person further from the path you would prefer them to take.

Please, treat each other in an appropriate and respectful manner and have a nice day.

 



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RebeccaDorant
3.98 (Good) | February 2007 | RebeccaDorant
abuse

firstly thankyou for being the noble one who could save this child, there should be more people like you in this world... secondly, having said that, i'd be inclined to agree with some of the other posts on this article about the need for the mother to have some help too in dealing with her grief. also about the privacy issue, i feel that in telling the minti comunity about this story you have perhaps forgotten about the respect of the boy and his mothers privacy... i know that you havn't given any names but this is still a public arena and just as a profesional counciler dealing with these types of situations would be obliged not to tell anyone, i believe the honerable thing to do as a friend would be to give these victims of abuse the same courtsy... just a thought... still kudos for you frum becca.



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porkypig
1.78 (Poor) | February 2007 | porkypig
bye
Im going to let you people have your web site , but leave you with this.... if lexiw is being so truthful then im assuming she will be able to let you know when something is done about this "terrible abuse." As they  say " dont let the truth get in the way of a good story."


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      madchanny
4.30 (Good) | February 2007 | madchanny
bye
ok piggy, off you go, thanks for the crap!

TA TA!!


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sunshineoz15
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | sunshineoz15
Thumbs up Lexi

I wish there had been someone like you in my life when I was growing up. My parents were great but had no idea that my best friend's parents were the leaders of a Satanic cult. They regularly involved me in ritual abuse and I couldn't tell anyone about it. It's only now, over 20 years later that I'm finally getting help.

We need more Lexis in the world. Love and hugs to you always.



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lucky321
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lucky321
well done
well done   Lexi   , you done the the right thing  , I wish more poeple have the guts  and get invo;e with  child abuse  when they its going on , instead of turning a blind eye to it .


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      jennibubs
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | jennibubs
who's attacked
This is not the place for such information. I have just been through training to be a foster carer and the big thing is PRIVACY. You never know who what or were people will make a conection. I fully support the actions taken to remove the child and the bravery that it took. We are all parents to every child in the world and as such it is vital that we do what our gut and soul tells us to do. These are the sort of kids that I will be getting and I can never discuss anything about them no matter the forum. Get all services involved and keep being involved this may be the thing that saves both of their lives. Porkypig you are just that a PIG. Make sure you enrol in an adult education course for litracy.  


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      emmysmum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | emmysmum
who's attacked
You are right, what goes around comes around.... and i believe that this boys mother is the one who has gotten the bad karma!
Are you condoning abuse? are you saying abusing children is right? are you saying molesting children is right?
This article IS ADVICE! as it may help someone one day who is going through a similar thing, to pluck up the courage to deal with things properly.
If i had a friend who abused the living daylights out of her child and refused help....i too, would refuse to be her friend any longer!
Why don't you pay a visit to lexi's home page, you may just see what a loving gentle soul she really is!


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      madchanny
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | madchanny
who's attacked
ARE YOU AND ''PORKY PIG'' THE SAME PERSON 'CLOVER'??? you have only been here for a couple of hours.....

Being one person, hiding behind one computer, acting as two people, doesn't help prove things mate, Lexi's concern is Lexi's concern, and i would be too if i knew the same kid!

oink, Channy.

P.S. Great article Lexi!

xox, channy



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Tink1976
2.35 (Poor) | February 2007 | Tink1976
Not the place.
The above advice is titled "For the Love of a child"  and even though I think Lexiw has the childs best interest at heart I feel that this is not the place to be discussing such a specific case with some obvoiusly personal issues between two members,  So for the love of this child please consider him and the fact you are discussing his alledged abuse for the whole world to see. If there is a case that has to be answered and there are local authorities involved who may be taking action then this should be kept a private matter. I am a firm believer of there are two sides to every story and with a story with such a delicate child at the heart of it this needs to be handled by professionals not Joe Public. So please consider your actions in discussing this case publicly and give the child in question an ounce of privacy.


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      OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
Not the place.

Im sorry but you are so very wrong.This is the place and to discuss situations like this. Yes, there are 2 sides to EVERY story but if we considered this fact each time someone posts something - well, we would never have anything to read on minti.

Each parenting problem, family abuse - whatever - that appears on minti is through the eyes of the author.....

Lexi has not given names, address or personal details. Come on honestly, how many people here no who Lexi is talking about? Not Many

The advice given here is about what to do if you are faced with a situation such as what Lexi has written about - she has, like so many of us, added a personal experience to this.

If something happens to this child would those arguing against Lexi's article be here aplogising? I doubt it.

As for those who have an issue about it - get over it, get past it and move on. I dont' care if there are 10 wrongly reported abuse cases, I don't care if there are 100 of them. If only 1 child is saved out of the numbers I have given, IT IS WORTH IT.

Lexi, you did the RIGHT thing. I would have done the same and as you can tell - you have a great deal of support here.

Thank YOU for looking out for those who need it, children. I admire you...

Love ya sweetie!

OB

 



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           Tink1976
3.00 (Average) | February 2007 | Tink1976
Child abuse

Of course child abuse should be talked about and as a victim of sexual abuse as a child then I agree that it needs to be out in the open and that children should be made aware of "bad touching" and violent abuse and the need to tell someone.

Although discussing individual cases as this article does is wrong. Outline guidelines to help a child/parents deal with and prevent abuse but do not discuss a childs individual case like it is idle gossip.



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           mummycristlyn
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mummycristlyn
Not the place.
i 100% agree on that oz binky  lexi is only writing advice on wat she has experience and she is trying to make a point that child abuse is not on lexi is a very caring lady  and u do what u have to do lexi u are doing the right thing love from cristlyn


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           Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Wendigo
I second this comment.

I'll comment myself when I have more time, but what Ozbinky has said here is well worth taking heed of in my opinion.



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           nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | nell18-3
Not the place.
With you all the way on those comments OB
I hate the way Lexi is being victimised for doing what she believed to be in the childs best interests
I agree with every single word you wrote
xxx


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      porkypig
1.00 (Very Poor) | February 2007 | porkypig
Not the place.
Yes i totally agree with what you are saying i only came on here to try and mabey clear my friends reputation a bit but as you can see lexiw is the only one who has mentioned names on here therefor it is only her who is giving anyone clues as to who is being spoken about.And as i agree with you i will sceece to argue with any one here i know whats really going on in this situation but as clover said lexiw what goes around comes around mabey someone will witmess you make a mistake with your kids . God help you if that someone is like you.


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           mumof1girl
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mumof1girl
Not the place.

 

I agree with ozbinky. lexiw is trying to sort out a problem and needs our advice. I think she did the right thing by coming in here.



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | nell18-3
Porky Pig
I am at a loss to know what your agenda was for joining this site
This is a parenting and supporting each other group
You have gone to a lot of time and effort to log in start at account and all for one purpose and that is to systematically destroy a highly respected and loved person on this site
If you cared so much about this whole situation with the boy you would take a step back and see what you can do to help him you would not waste a lot of time on attempting to upset the credibility of someone who had the guts to step in and do the right thing!
Now if you want to contribute to this site do in the correct way it was intended for, the only person who has lost any credibility over this is yourself
You are on here badmouthing a very good friend of mine who has been given the gift of intuition on knowing how to deal with a difficult situation and having the guts to do it.
I wish I had half the courage that I have witnessed Lexi has
She has been there for me and many others several times
So either have something positive to say on other parenting issues or just go. If you have the attitude you have already shown us on here then you are not welcome.
Lexi Keep smiling. You are well loved xxx


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rachelcook
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | rachelcook
Lexi
Well done Lexi..you know Today tonight and A current affair would really be interested in this. Children have rights to a safe home. World Wide rights!!!


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cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | cookclan
I just needed to add my 2 cents
Okay I will say one more thing on all this talk from you Porky...How Lexi raises her children had nothing to do with the abuse this person committed on this boy...I have a child who has in the past been hard..Extremely difficult and I to have lost my temper but never ever Have I slapped my child around the head because he is too hard...OMG Please this person needs help and if you are her friend condoneing this is not what a true friend does...You are not helping at all the boy or his mother...The man who hit this boy is his mothers boyfriend...He needs to be charged and she needs to kick him to the curb...I would step in front of a loaded gun for my children and guess what they are not all mine biologically and they have all had their hard times...I suggest instead of coming on here running down someone for a article that you believe was not the full truth...That you pick anyone of us to privately minti mail including myself with anything I say you disagree on...Whether you are this boys mum or a friend of this mum it is time you also stepped up to the plate and helped her get the help she so desperately needs...Raising a child with these sorts of issues is not easy...(take a look at my homepage and some of my articles and you will see I do know what I am talking about) I suggest to you if you think this behaviour that happened is okay and he desrved it which is waht i read into your comments that you step back for a bit and think how your friend would be feeling right now if when she or her bf hit him he slipped and knocked his head on the door frame killing him or they knocked him in the right place to cause some sort of brain damage...With every action there is a reaction...This boy did not ask to be born or to go through the things he has....He needs a Psychologist not a cousellor he needs real help and with friends like you supporting his mum I really do feel for this child...I think that the best place for all children to be is with their biological parents but without help I do not think this is the right place for this young man...Just my thoughts and if you do have something to say please minti mail me....
Angie


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angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | angelmum
Just want to say
You know what, all this talk to this pig is not going to do a god damn thing, she says we don't know Lexi well no some of us don't only via this site and yes we can all hide behind a computer and be whom ever we want to be.  But those who are not genuine eventually show their true colours as a lot of us have come to realise and experience.  However Lexi has always been honest & caring and has reached 6th ranking with integrity and honesty not through lies or deceipt.  With that in mind, what does she have to gain by writing this and telling lies??  obviously she doesn't need to do this to increase her ranking that happens anyway, she has written this out of experience and to hopefully help someone else out there who may be going through the same experience.  Pig you coming on here is not going to do a thing to change our minds nor stop Lexi from doing what she set out to do in the first place, and that to help a child in need..... This poor little lost soul that has finally found someone that cares enough to try and reach out to him, what a pity you havn't done this yourself, he is 12 yrs old and if this is what he is like then god help him what a sad little life he has had, I hope for his sake that with Lexi stepping in and taking control this will be the turn around for him to be able to enjoy and live the rest of his life the way he should.  You picked your name porkypig very well, with your attitude and to come on here to attack Lexi that is exactly what you are a pig, go back to the hole you came out of but this time don't forget to cover it up!!!


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      angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | angelmum
Just want to say
Oh and to add, Lexi don't let anyone stand in your way, don't give up, this little bloke needs you, you have done the right thing xxxx


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      mummycristlyn
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mummycristlyn
Just want to say
i second that  angelmum that was well said  i cnt belive that she has only come on here to be nasty to lexi  from cristlyn


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kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | kiarasmom2005
LOST CAUSE{tell me what kind of hope does that give a mother}

Ps

the counsellor that called this kid a lost cause...... did the boy here this comment?? I guess if that is what all you people keep teaching him he is well there is your answer

 



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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | breannababy
LOST CAUSE{tell me what kind of hope does that give a mother}
this is not something an accredited counselor would state,porky u are being false and are just out on a witch hunt go and tend to your own back yard it sounds as though you are going off half cocked


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                kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | kiarasmom2005
LOST CAUSE{tell me what kind of hope does that give a mother}
it's admirable that you want to defend your friend, However, you yourself have shot yourself in the foot and opened a can of worms. If a child shows up with bruises, whether it is from a spouse, yourself or another child at school... something has to be done. If a child has EXTREME behaviour problems there are reasons and something has to be done. A child at 12 years old does not have the ability to decide to be violent, and abusive to others unless they have learned how........ you cannot ride a bike until someone teaches you how. Do you get it or not? Either way this kid needs help. Lex has taken the courage to step up to the plate, and if it wasn't going on in the household then why was it a matter of the boyfriend being kicked out for this child to be comfortable with going home? You cannot argue that it is completely a child's fault for his behaviour, you are making justifications because this child has an apparent attitude and faults. Instead of saying " Hey mom, if you can't handle your child and your responsibility then maybe let some people help him and be there by his side every step of the way and tell him that YOU LOVE HIM AND YOU ARE PROUD OF WHO HE IS".


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                breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | breannababy
LOST CAUSE{tell me what kind of hope does that give a mother}
I refuse to dignify your rot with any more responses as you can see Lexi is well liked and loved by all on this site if you have any-more to say to me do so through private minti mail.As I really dislike seeing this lovely site befouled by your nonsense.Merle


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kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | kiarasmom2005
Children learn what they live

Does this boy have a sport that he enjoys? How about some form of cadets? There are all different kinds of things that this boy can do in order to vent his anger, and maybe he will find someone in those kinds of places that was meant to cross his path and teach him about life. If this boy is constantly hearing about how bad he is, then bad is what he is going to be. If everyone is saying they can't deal with him, then how is he going to learn to deal with himself? And if people are angry around him all the time then what do you think that this boy is going to be? Angry. Children learn what they live. Nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. His family may appear to be peaceful people to you, but behind closed doors (when he was smaller and when it really counted) they could have been tyrants. It could have been someone else that taught him, maybe not mom. It could be grama or grampa or auntie or daddy. you never know.

children learn what they live. They live in peace, they will have contentment. They live in criticism they will have self hatred. They live in anger, and they will have anger.

 



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      lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
Children learn what they live

He wants to play rugby league but has never been allowed. Even when I offered to pay for it all and take him to the games and training

 



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           kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | kiarasmom2005
Children learn what they live
It was nice and commendable that you offered to pay lex. There aren't alot of ppl out there like you. I think that you are doin the right thing and sometimes there are people that seem to forget about the kids. I am sure that he is a good kid inside as you well do. He just needed someone like you to help!!


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           kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | kiarasmom2005
Children learn what they live

Well if he doesn't have a venting ground how else is he supposed to vent his anger?

Oh i know by thrashing stuff and yelling and what not. Well hopefully he will be ok

Like i said i have been through this as well and I know how hard that all this must be for you.\

 



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                porkypig
1.59 (Poor) | February 2007 | porkypig
Children learn what they live
You people assume too much ofcourse this boy has been envolved in sports and scouts and other things, i have never cme across a more narrow minded bunch of people.


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cindyb
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | cindyb
You are very courageous...

It is not easy to summon up the courage to confront this type of issue, as many of us would act on emotion. I would have felt compelled too to do something, it would be too hard for me to sit back and allow the child back into the home without saying something. When it is not your own family, you are taking the word of the child and the mother etc, but gut instincts naturally would tell us there is something wrong here...

You did the right thing, ALL suspected abuse SHOULD be reported, even if it means that whoever in authority looks into it. Yes, there is not always an outcome that removes the child to a safer place, but at least it is on RECORD, should anyone else report it again. Keep fighting for what you know is right Lexi.

Hang in there girl.

Love CindyB.



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kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | kiarasmom2005
Obviously she had the power

Parents have the power. I don't know about u but I have an instinct and over whelming sense in me when I feel my child needs to be protected (example a bigger kid pushes my 15 month old). It is a feeling that I think many parents can understand. I think that if some guy I was dating was hitting on my kid or anyone else for that matter, I would do WHATEVER it took to protect my child. That is a copout and an excuse, there are police that can come and help calm down your child (trust me a visit from the cop will calm them down real quick). There are people out there that can help. they are called counsellors, doctors, friends, family.  If this kid had someone to talk to that they could trust, and alot of love and patience, he would be able to cope with the things he has gone through. I am disgusted at the fact that you are making excuses and not even trying to help that kid or help the mother if need be so that she can learn the tools to help him and herself. NO man of mine would be hittin my kid and not having any consequences.

 



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      porkypig
1.00 (Very Poor) | February 2007 | porkypig
Obviously she had the power
Just to give you a bit of an idea about what the situation is really like this boy has had numerous counselours , he hs attacked and ignored them and the mother even got told by one of them he wouldnt see the boy anymore because he was a LOST CAUSE{tell me what kind of hope does that give a mother}. He has been visited by the police on a few different acassions , once being picked up from school and delivere to hospital because he smashed up the class room putting a teacher in hospital .He has also been  delivered to the police station to have a tour of the cells. He has been back and forwards to plenty of doctors and had heaps of tests which are still ongoing. So plese dont just assume that this mother has done nothing to help her son .She has been doing nothing but trying to help him for years now. I must also add that lexiw knows what its like to be near the edge with this boy, as she has been on the end of his temper and she has delt with it by dragging him violently from one room to another and she has on accasion actually struck him herself so i really dont know how she can sit on her computer saying this mother is doing the wrong thing.


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           Deborahsc2203
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Deborahsc2203
Obviously she had the power
im sorry but if what you say is ment to be true and this child put a teacher in hospital then this child would of been taken away also ,, so i just dont beleive your story


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           emmysmum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | emmysmum
Obviously she had the power
PMSL you really don't know as to how big of a hole you are digging for yourself do you?
Apart from the fact that you said you witnessed everything saying the boy was only hit on the head and not beaten, then turning around and saying you never said you were there when actually you did (ITS WHAT A WITNESS IS STUPID) Then getting all up and defensive about everything and on top of everything else, joining the site right after lexi has taken the boy into her house for safety reasons....doesn't it seem all to sus? YOU ARE THE MOTHER OF THIS CHILD! SO STOP HIDING! YOU NEED HELP YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL!
Oh and by the way, why would lexi abuse this boy when she doesnt abuse her own children? I would barely call a firm no abuse!
She's a loving soul, too gentle for that! So take your lies back to your little den and get some sleep....if you can!


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                madchanny
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | madchanny
Obviously she had the power
'porky pig' has been telling porkies! you go emmysmum, you took the words right out of my mouth!
xx channy


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           i2cute4words
4.89 (Excellent) | February 2007 | i2cute4words
Obviously she had the power

Quite honestly if you can't handle your own child, and no friend or family can really help, then wouldn't it be wise to seek some real professional advice such as trialling a foster family or something to separate the child from what is hurting him? Perhaps it's a real psychological issue and somebody should have the child committed to a mental hospital as they can prescribe something (anything) to help and retain that child until they start showing signs of improvement. Obviously he's hurting from the separation of his parent, deaths and to top it all off, his mother is trying to get with another man before sorting out how her own child feels. The key would be to deal with the child first then once he's stable, then seeking companionship, not the other way round. No love interest of a parent should be able to abuse a child no matter what the circumstance. If that love interest can't handle the child, then they should LEAVE. There is simply no excuse.



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           lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
Obviously she had the power

You can say whatever lies about me that you like but the fact of the matter is that this child is being abused and I will do whatever I can to help him.

 



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                porkypig
1.00 (Very Poor) | February 2007 | porkypig
Obviously she had the power
Well what are you going to do , if you really had this so called photografic evidence then where is it and if you did hand it in to the authorities then why have they not gone around to the home of the boy to see if he is ok and talk to the mother and if he is really that unsafe there why on earth did you let him go back in the first place{because you know damn well he IS safe}


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kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | kiarasmom2005
i get how you fell

Lex, I am a new user to this site, and I understand your stand point. I went through a very similar situation that you did and I give the most upmost solute to you. I had a step daughter (who turned out not to be my husbands at all DNA test) and I can't tell you what didn't happen to this little girl. At nine years old she could tell you every drug there was, she had been molested (which btw saying that does not mean that lex even implied that it was a family member), she had been hit, she had lice for over 7 months which i got and ended up having to shave both of our heads. I also had to call the authorities because her mother left her in a hotel room with two teenage girls she barely knew to go see a guy she met on the computer.I ended up having to tell her that who she thought was her daddy was not. I felt it was my responsibility to tell her the truth and get the authorities to help this child because the one person in the world who she needed to trust and take care of her was out galavanting and doing illegal things instead of taking care of the 2 out of 5 kids she had left. I understand the thoughts and feelings that you must have been having lex because I have been there too. It broke my heart and I still think of the little girl (who btw is back with her mother now and is has dissappeared). The little girl had been in stolen cars, and trust me the list goes on and on. This little girl had MAJOR behaviour problems which is completely to be expected. Which any GOOD parent would know that children at age 12 or 9 or 16 or whatever, are not built with coping skills. We as parents are supposed to teach them. Porky this is to u: no matter how much of a S@#$%^ disturber a child is, there is a reason for it and there is NO reason that a child who cannot physically stand up for themselves should ever be attacked in any which way by an adult. If their parents ARE NOT being parents and HELPING their child or children then it is time for someone to step in.

Hats off to you lex

 



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      cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | cazza
i get how you fell
well done kiarasmum  i absolutely agree with everything you have said here.Welcome to Minti...AND lexi you keep on doing what you do best here, as we all think you are great...Cheers mate


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porkypig
1.00 (Very Poor) | February 2007 | porkypig
you all

I have never said that i was in the room and wittnessed this and i am NOT the boys mother. The mother of this child how ever is the woman who has endlessly helped lexiw when she has had problems with her own children. Lexiw knows she is  not telling the whole truth and that there is only so much a parent can do to stop her son smashing the house and possibly the mother with out using force.The mother has tried for years to get help from various agencies and departments and they have ALL done nothing BECAUSE THE CHILD IS NOT IN ANY DANGER. So before you pass judgement , question just how well you all know lexiw. I have known both lexiw and the mother in question for years and this is typicle and not out of characture for her to make a mountain out of a mole hill.



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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | nell18-3
you all
I think you will find we know Lexi very well thankyou
Lexi is a gentle caring soul and would reach out to anyone in trouble
She is a very valued respected member of Minti and great friend to lots of on here


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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | breannababy
child abuse
I think that you need to go look up the the meaning of abuse PORKY as you seem to have a strange concept of the meaning at the moment.You are right people can hide behind a computer cant they????? where can this poor child hide??????? And I bet Lexi has a clear conscience,does this poor child's Mother hmmmm.I think not,I would like to suggest you take your poisonous toxic venomous accusations and leave this site if this is all you have to offer.On that note sleep well if you can


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MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MummaBear
Adults need to learn self-control to protect children
Children can behave badly. Some can behave very badly. I've seen it. But under no circumstance does that give the parents the right to hit a child force! A smack on the bum or a tap on the fingers or top of the leg is enough to jolt them into listening, if that doesn't work then physical force of any kind is not needed. I have found myself in a situation (not with my own daughter) where I have sat there thinking that I can understand how easily child abuse can happen. Luckily it was not my child and I had enough self-control to pull my head in and realise that I love this child and I have to take care of him while his mother can't. He has Asperger's Syndrome and was not properly diagnosed at the time so the pills they had him on (for ADD) did nothing to curb his behaviour.  NO ADULT HAS THE RIGHT TO USE UNREASONABLE PHYSICAL FORCE AS A FORM OF PUNISHMENT ON A CHILD OR ANOTHER ADULT.  The best thing to do is walk away from the child and calm yourself down.  For me, that meant allowing the child to break furniture in the playroom of my house. All I could do was keep my child away from him where she was safe and keep him confined to that one room.  I knew his behaviour would pass. Furniture is easily replaced even if it does take years to save up for it. A child's life cannot be fixed once it's ruined by abuse.  Like I said, I can see how people can be pushed to that point but we need to realise, as adults, we have to control the situation because a child can't.


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      emmysmum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | emmysmum
Adults need to learn self-control to protect children
well done and well said! I couldn't agree with you more!


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      lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
this is only a make believe story i am a wittness

I have nothing to hide. The mother is the one who admitted to me what happened and I will do everything in my power to stop this abuse. As any good parent would do. I am not the only one who will stand up in court and testify to the abuse that this mother has inflicted on this child. Just because a child behaves badly, even very badly as this one can, does not mean he should be beaten or even slapped in the head as you say it is still abuse.

 



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      emmysmum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | emmysmum
this is only a make believe story i am a wittness
slapping a child around the face or head is still child abuse! And i am sorry to say it but EVERY CHILD DEALS WITH THINGS DIFFERENTLY!
I know LexiW very well, in fact we all do, and we know that she wouldn't lie like that....like you make her out to do!
Lets see how good of a ranking you get! How good of a parent are you? If you knew what was going on you should've reported it!


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           cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | cookclan
this is only a make believe story i am a wittness
Hi there Porky Pig,
I was on the Phone to Lexi after this all happened and was told the story....Lexi is a well respected person on this site and I am also aware that the only witnesses to this event with this young boy were his mother and the boyfriend so if you witnessed this then you are obviously one of the 2 aren't you...I believe that this is what happened and trust the words that Lexi has said...I also do not believe that the way this was written makes it look like a family member molestered this boy...Darl if you witnesed this and you are one of these perpetrators you do need help yourself...I do know how hard life can be when you have a difficult child but abuse in all forms are not an acceptable form of handling things...There are places you can go and people who will help you...As I am sure you do not want to do this again...Dealing with your issues by coming on here and writing a comment like this is not going to help you...It is not going to help your son...I may be way off base but hey that is how your comment reads to me...And when you think about it alot of others will read it this way too...
Cheers
Angie


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      Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Kellzacar
this is only a make believe story i am a wittness

Wow - Last time i checked slapping a kid around the head was and IS CHILD ABUSE! That's the law in Australia . . . . .

Lexi is a well known and supported person here who's honesty and truthfulness is well known. From what I have just read you would do well to have a friend like Lexi.

Please take your remarks and comments someplace else!



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      Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Kellzacar
this is only a make believe story i am a wittness

TO  porkypig

Wow - Last time i checked slapping a kid around the head was and IS CHILD ABUSE! That's the law in Australia . . . . .

Lexi is a well known and supported person here who's honesty and truthfulness is well known. From what I have just read you would do well to have a friend like Lexi.

Please take your remarks and comments someplace else!



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           mummycristlyn
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mummycristlyn
this is only a make believe story i am a wittness

i 100% agree with u kellzacar lexi is the most caring person and the most beautiful person that u could ever know no child needs to be treated like that its just not on love from cristlyn



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      pcgames
4.56 (Excellent) | February 2007 | pcgames
this is only a make believe story i am a wittness
Well Porkypig I can only guess why you only joined yesterday and are fighting so hard to make it look like Lexi is lying, 1) either you only joined up to pick on Lexi, 2) you joined up to pick on Lexi in public thinking you could get somewhere but so far I haven't read  a symphateic word  from you, for any of the peoples situations in this dilemma. Now if I was not one of the parents of this child why would I be so against the woman who reported this abuse to the authorities. Do you find it offensive that sometimes other people take action when you can't to against you, or you could try seeing it as a helping hand which I have found that Lexi does quite often regardless of her ranking ,if you only took the time to look around the website you would know this. This site is for people who have q&a ,advice, REAL OPINIONS and not everyone likes what they read on everything but it doesn't mean we all go into attack mode. I suggest that as you state if you are a friend of the family you should be helping that child not going out for vengeance on the person who reported it, as Lexi wrote she does have pictures of the child and no-one wants to see this not anyone in their right mind anyway but if your so sure send her a message and ask to see them. Then you will know the truth.


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mummycristlyn
4.55 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mummycristlyn
great work
no child needs to be treated like that is totally wrong u done the right thing  u are such a wonderful person love from cristlyn 


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emmysmum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | emmysmum
Good work
I really admire you Lexi. If it wasn't for you who knows what could've happened to that young boy? I also congratulate you for controlling your anger....because i know i wouldn't have been able to!
The system is warped, like merle said....they need a good shake up!


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      lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
Good work

Thanks hunny  Mwah

 Lexi xxx

 



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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | breannababy
ABSOLUTELY
NOT on,there is no excuse what so ever for a child to be treated in his manner.......I commend you Lexi for standing up for this little fellow......for who else would've?not the AUTHORITIES !!!!! no most times they give a warning a token slap on the wrist then go have a coffee.......our child protection agencies are a joke and need a very good shake up hell we can ban smoking from eateries and public transport why cant we ban child abuse??????? Something is very wrong in our society today great work you walking angel you mwah hugs Merle


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      lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
ABSOLUTELY

A department of childrens services worker said scott is fine he dosn't have any problems. I don't have much faith in the authorities around here. I agree that our agencies need a really good shake. Thanks heaps merle. MWAH

 Lexi xxx



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | nell18-3
Well Done
Good on you Lexi
You absolutely did the right thing but what a terrible thing for you and the child to go through
Big Hugs to you
xxx


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      lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
Well Done

Thank you xxx

 Lexi xxx



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OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
Well done Lexi....

I know how hard that would have been...

Good on you matey....

Cheers

OB xox



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      lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
Well done Lexi....

Thank you OB xox

 Lexi xxx



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exquisite-flower
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | exquisite-flower
great strength
I admire your strength in taking him and walking away.  I know how much turmoil would be inside me if i witnessed what you describe there.  I think that my mind would race with many scenarios of options that i could do.  Wisdom is a great gift.
Peace
EF.x 


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      lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
great strength

Thanks EF

 Lexi xxx



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cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | cookclan
All children need love
Mate What you did by walking away from the mother and her boyfriend was a strong thing....Most people I know would have had their say there and then but that was the first point you showed what a wonderful person you are you walked because the kids were there.....You have done more for that child in a few short days than anyone has done ofr him for a long time....I know the ideal thing is for all children to be with their natural parents if at all possible but this young man knows that your door is always open and his mother boyfriend or not needs consequences and counselling....sadly with the authorities this is not always the case but maybe with your strong personality you can get her to get this help she so desperately needs....I am proud of the way you handled everything....I think you saw something you needed to do and regardless of yours and the mums past friendship you still did what needed to be done you reported it......No matter who commits this sort of act on a child it needs to be reoprted......
Mwah to you
Angie


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      lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
All children need love

Thank you so much angie MWAH

 Lexi xxx



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MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MadMel
Excellent!
What a fantastic bit of advice you have written. I feel so sad for this poor child. He is lucky to have someone like you around.


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      lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
Excellent!

Thanks mel.

 Lexi xxx



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Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Kellzacar
For the love of a child

Hi Lexi,

What you have done for this boy is a truly wonderful thing and you derserve to be acknowledged for it.

Sadly there are more ppl that would choose to ignore this situation as use the excuse "its none our buisiness". WELL thats wrong.

Every child is everybody's buisiness . . .  Thank Lexi for reminding us all and thankyou for telling your story.

Cheers Alana



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      lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lexiw
For the love of a child

I agree nobody should ever standby and do nothing when a child is suffering.

 Lexi xxx



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