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For the love of a child

lexiw by lexiw Young Parent(February 2007) (rank 16th)

I am writing about my experience here and I hope it helps someone deal with this thing that happens to so many children

I regulry get phonecalls from a friend who can not handle her son. She has a very hard time getting him to interact with the family

and at school. She calls me so she can have a bit of a rest and so can he. This boy has been through his parents seperating, His father dying of a heart attack, He watched someone he loved and adored die in a car accident he was then molested and lost somebody he thought of as family to cancer. This boy has been through stuff that not many adults have let alone a young boy.

I got a phone call the other day to go and get him which I did but when I got there something was different. This boy had been beaten around the head. I was so very angry all I wanted to do was cause violence to his mother and her boyfriend, But what I did do was walk away. I took the boy and left. I spoke to a very good friend on the phone who helped me to calm down and look at things rationally. His mother then phoned me the next day and wanted to come and pick him up but i told her she wasn't going to do that and explained to her what her sons face looked like and that I had video eveidence and that the authorities were going to be informed. The boy had to black eyes, a cut on his nose and scratches on his neck. The mother was not happy that I would not let her get her son but There was no way in hell that boy was going anywhere. I asked her what did she think might happen next time how much worse could it be.

I got a phonecall a few hours later and she said that she realised that things had gone to far. She said the boyfriend was moving out and that she was so very sorry and she wanted me to ask the boy if he would come home now that the boyfriend was leaving. I told her it was great that the B/F was leaving but that that wasn't the only thing that needed fixing and she agreed.

I am hoping that the authorities here do something about the situation but unfortunately it is more likely that they won't. I am going to make sure that this is fixed. I am looking into hypnotherapy for the boy and possibly the mother too. I have borrowed a meditaion book from the library that I think may help the boy it is for children. The boy wants to go home in few days for a trial period. I am not liking the idea but he is twelve and the mother has removed the boyfriend so I have agreed. I think it is important that kids are with their parents if the parent in this particular case is willing to really fix things.

If you see child abuse or know that it is happening please report it. Far to many children are killed because of abuse.

 

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nfrethem
June 10th | nfrethem
Re: For the love of a child

You should definately be alerting the authorities immediately but picking up the son and withholding him from his mother (regardless of whether it is an abusive situation) could be considered kidnapping.  Be careful with your actions in this situation - you don't want to include yourself and your family with their mess.  Call child protective services, call the police every chance you can get.  The system has failed before but it's important to trust it before taking the law into your own hands - for your own good.  No one will be there to protect that child or look out for his best interests if you get sent to jail or have criminal actions filed against you.



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lisasmith140483
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | lisasmith140483
Re: For the love of a child
OMg girl you are sensational if there were more people in this world willing to not just stand up for but protect our children form this world it would be fantastic.. My hats off to you sweetie. well done


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Deborahsc2203
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Deborahsc2203
i want to say
Lexi the world needs more angels like you xxxxx thank god for you


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iancherine
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | iancherine
3 cheers for you!!

Well done to you for helping one child in this world that needed it. There are so many children out there in abusive homes that people don't even try to help. They just look away. This is very sad. CONGRATULATIONS!! There should be more people like you out there trying to protect the children who will be our future one day. Cherine.



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llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | llmunchkin
Oh dear...
That poor boy, what kind of life is that for anyone?  Then, to be beaten to boot!  Thank goodness for him that you are there and you cared enough to stick your neck out and put it on the chopping block to help him, instead of turning a blind eye and leaving well enough alone.  There is NO excuse for what has happened to him, and even though it is easier not to become involved, you couldn't possibly walk away from a child in need... Any child in need.  Good on you sweetie - I wish I could help you, in fact, if I can, let me know!


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mcm
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mcm
Cause a stir
I think having a debate is good. I am opinionated yet reserved so I don't need to say anything but thankyou Lexi for your article. it has opened up awareness i think.


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MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MummaBear
There is No Excuse for Abuse
Wow, this has really taken off hasn't it! I still feel that child abuse talked about it child abuse prevented.  If we don't talk about it, like happened years ago, nothing will change. The more it is talked about, the more our children know they can tell someone, the less likely it is to continue.  I have always told my daughter that she needs to tell someone, anyone she trusts, if anyone ever hurts her. I have explained the many ways people can hurt her and she understands most of it.  I know she's only 3, but she is very switched on. She tells her daycare teachers, swimming teacher and her grandmother every time she gets a little smack, every time I sit her in the corner, every time she gets roused on because I've told her about unacceptable behaviour and how she needs to tell someone what's going on and how she feels about it.  She tells me if she was in trouble at daycare or if one the kids hit her, she tells me why too.  I think teaching children these things, talking about it in the community, is the most effective way of putting an end to child abuse.  THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR ABUSE!  I think the more people there are in the world who are willing to step in and take a child, the more people there are to share these stories, the less it will happen in the future as child abusers rely on secrecy. Without it, they can't hide and they can't keep doing it.  Good on you for writing this article and causing such a stir, we have all learnt alot from this.


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RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | RebeccaDorant
so sorry lexi

after rereading the article and some of the other comments left in this thread i am truly sorry if i have offended or hurt you in any way... wendigo is right you have named no names and you did offer to help the mother so i am sorry that i accused you of those things... minti is a place for advice and help and if that help comes in the form of a personal experience then so shall it be... once again i am trully sorry and i hope that you can forgive at least one of the silly protesters on this thread... :)'s for you for being the hero



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lilysmom
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lilysmom
Advice on abuse.

This thread is completely out of hand. All lexi did was write about her experience in the hope that it would inspire someone else who has witnessed child abuse to report it. I don't know if the "people" who keep giving her grief on it are the same person or not, but this has got to stop! It's a great article.
And clover... sending your kid to their room is not abuse. Neither is giving them a time out, grounding them from going out with their friends, or from the computer or the phone or whatever. Giving them 2 black eyes is abuse, and there is nothing that any kid could do that woud warrent getting the crap beat out of them!
Children need to be given the necessities of life: proper food, proper shelter, proper clothing and education, and a safe place to call home, where they don't get beat. That is it.



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clover
1.67 (Poor) | February 2007 | clover
clover

well im not porky, sorry i wish i had the courage of the pig.

 did it occur to lexiw that the child is at home now does she expect that

she will see him again to do any thing about the abuse ?

i think that we are all allowed our own opinion ,i thought thats what this site was all about????

how many of you send your chlid too there room ???'' thats abuse to ''

one more question what did this child do, to make the parents mad enough to use phisical abuse?

if you can answer my questions please do

clover



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      kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | kiarasmom2005
clover

Clover,

Has one of your friends or someone close to you ever been beat by there husband or boyfriend? I hope not, because I am sure that you may have asked them what they did to really piss him off right? SO , I am guessing that if your sister or mom or friend or whatever said or did something it's their fault right? I think if you did they wouldn't be comin to you for help now would they? I bet if that being their friend you might say to them "it doesn't matter what you said to him honey, a man should never hit a woman. It's not right"

answers to your questions:

Even if that child is at home now, if it happened again I bet ya that he knows he has somewhere to run next time it happens because someone finally showed him that such a thing exsists.

yes opinions are deffinately allowed however, there are very touchy subjects that are standard throughout the world. Here in canada, if a person goes to jail for harming or molesting a child, they actually put them away from the other inmates so they don't get killed in jail. irony huh?

sending your child to their room is not child abuse....it is a discipline and teaching tool, I know that they teach in parent books that timeouts and sending children to their room is acceptable, hitting them is not.

I really wouldn't envy that kind of courage, because like lex i have had to call the authorities for child abuse myself, and that is the most heart wrenching, gut ache, anxiety causing thing that a person would ever have to do. You don't know where that child might go,  whether to a descent foster home or to someone else who has just getting paid to have kids in their house.

Like I have said before, having kids is a gift and a priviledge not a right. Anyone can make a baby but it takes a real selfless person to be a parent.

 



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janicepovey
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | janicepovey
Advice On Abuse
Good on you Lexi, advice on abuse can come in any shape or form. Many people hide behind closed doors and as long as the abuse is not happening to them they don't want to know about it and thats a real shame because when your the one being abused to the point that you know your life hangs in the balance,you wish those people behind closed doors would come out and do something to HELP you.The more awareness of abuse, the more likely something will be done to help the person being abused. Their are many minti friends out there that have experienced some form of abuse in their lifetime and they know the scars of abuse stay with you for rest of your life. There were many a times through out my life that didn't think i was going to make  through  to the morning because of  violent abuse and i wished many a times for someone like lexi to come and save me but they never did.  Abuse is like cancer was a decade ago no one wanted to talk about just in case they caught it, well we need to talk about it because if we don't it will just keep happening.


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Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Wendigo
Another line of conversation that has gotten out of hand.

It happens, unfortunately, and I'm not going to go pointing any fingers here.  What I will say is that Lexi has written an excellent advice article that pertains to a personal situation.  She has not given any names or contact details, and as such has maintained the confidentiality of everyone involved.  Whether or not this story is completely true is not the important part as it is the message that the advice is sending is the important.

Accusing someone of telling lies about a personal experience is outrageous, public slander (which this is not) is the only valid exception.  If it was a case of public slander, it would be a reportable offence and should be reported, not commented on.

In this advice, Lexi expressed her disapproval of the mother's actions but did not directly degrade her as a person.  She also expressed a wish to get the mother the help required to better care for her son so that no further instances of abuse would occur. This would benefit everyone concerned, and is in favour of the mother and child having a safe and happy relationship.  There is no problem with anything that Lexi has written here.

For people to place derogatory comments, unwarrented accusations, and to behave in a negative manner is against the grain of what Minti is about.  Minti is about friendship, support, and a helping hand to those in need. It is acceptable to disagree with something that has been written, but such instances should attract constructive critism and healthy debate. If any member can not respect this and comment appropriately, then this is probably not the place for them to be.

We can not dictate to each other how we parent our children - after all, we don't like others doing it to us, and it's not our place to do it to anyone else. What works for one family may not work for another.  We need to keep this in mind and be respectful of each other in that regards. We can give advice, we can accept advice, we can ignore advice.  We should not sit by and do nothing whilst someone, anyone, suffers in any way, but we can't force anyone to do something about it.  Encouragement and diplomacy is the key.  Nagging and harassment will only turn the person further from the path you would prefer them to take.

Please, treat each other in an appropriate and respectful manner and have a nice day.

 



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RebeccaDorant
3.98 (Good) | February 2007 | RebeccaDorant
abuse

firstly thankyou for being the noble one who could save this child, there should be more people like you in this world... secondly, having said that, i'd be inclined to agree with some of the other posts on this article about the need for the mother to have some help too in dealing with her grief. also about the privacy issue, i feel that in telling the minti comunity about this story you have perhaps forgotten about the respect of the boy and his mothers privacy... i know that you havn't given any names but this is still a public arena and just as a profesional counciler dealing with these types of situations would be obliged not to tell anyone, i believe the honerable thing to do as a friend would be to give these victims of abuse the same courtsy... just a thought... still kudos for you frum becca.



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porkypig
1.78 (Poor) | February 2007 | porkypig
bye
Im going to let you people have your web site , but leave you with this.... if lexiw is being so truthful then im assuming she will be able to let you know when something is done about this "terrible abuse." As they  say " dont let the truth get in the way of a good story."


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      madchanny
4.30 (Good) | February 2007 | madchanny
bye
ok piggy, off you go, thanks for the crap!

TA TA!!


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sunshineoz15
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | sunshineoz15
Thumbs up Lexi

I wish there had been someone like you in my life when I was growing up. My parents were great but had no idea that my best friend's parents were the leaders of a Satanic cult. They regularly involved me in ritual abuse and I couldn't tell anyone about it. It's only now, over 20 years later that I'm finally getting help.

We need more Lexis in the world. Love and hugs to you always.



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lucky321
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lucky321
well done
well done   Lexi   , you done the the right thing  , I wish more poeple have the guts  and get invo;e with  child abuse  when they its going on , instead of turning a blind eye to it .


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      jennibubs
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | jennibubs
who's attacked
This is not the place for such information. I have just been through training to be a foster carer and the big thing is PRIVACY. You never know who what or were people will make a conection. I fully support the actions taken to remove the child and the bravery that it took. We are all parents to every child in the world and as such it is vital that we do what our gut and soul tells us to do. These are the sort of kids that I will be getting and I can never discuss anything about them no matter the forum. Get all services involved and keep being involved this may be the thing that saves both of their lives. Porkypig you are just that a PIG. Make sure you enrol in an adult education course for litracy.  


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      emmysmum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | emmysmum
who's attacked
You are right, what goes around comes around.... and i believe that this boys mother is the one who has gotten the bad karma!
Are you condoning abuse? are you saying abusing children is right? are you saying molesting children is right?
This article IS ADVICE! as it may help someone one day who is going through a similar thing, to pluck up the courage to deal with things properly.
If i had a friend who abused the living daylights out of her child and refused help....i too, would refuse to be her friend any longer!
Why don't you pay a visit to lexi's home page, you may just see what a loving gentle soul she really is!


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      madchanny
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | madchanny
who's attacked
ARE YOU AND ''PORKY PIG'' THE SAME PERSON 'CLOVER'??? you have only been here for a couple of hours.....

Being one person, hiding behind one computer, acting as two people, doesn't help prove things mate, Lexi's concern is Lexi's concern, and i would be too if i knew the same kid!

oink, Channy.

P.S. Great article Lexi!

xox, channy



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Tink1976
2.35 (Poor) | February 2007 | Tink1976
Not the place.
The above advice is titled "For the Love of a child"  and even though I think Lexiw has the childs best interest at heart I feel that this is not the place to be discussing such a specific case with some obvoiusly personal issues between two members,  So for the love of this child please consider him and the fact you are discussing his alledged abuse for the whole world to see. If there is a case that has to be answered and there are local authorities involved who may be taking action then this should be kept a private matter. I am a firm believer of there are two sides to every story and with a story with such a delicate child at the heart of it this needs to be handled by professionals not Joe Public. So please consider your actions in discussing this case publicly and give the child in question an ounce of privacy.


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      OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | OzBinky
Not the place.

Im sorry but you are so very wrong.This is the place and to discuss situations like this. Yes, there are 2 sides to EVERY story but if we considered this fact each time someone posts something - well, we would never have anything to read on minti.

Each parenting problem, family abuse - whatever - that appears on minti is through the eyes of the author.....

Lexi has not given names, address or personal details. Come on honestly, how many people here no who Lexi is talking about? Not Many

The advice given here is about what to do if you are faced with a situation such as what Lexi has written about - she has, like so many of us, added a personal experience to this.

If something happens to this child would those arguing against Lexi's article be here aplogising? I doubt it.

As for those who have an issue about it - get over it, get past it and move on. I dont' care if there are 10 wrongly reported abuse cases, I don't care if there are 100 of them. If only 1 child is saved out of the numbers I have given, IT IS WORTH IT.

Lexi, you did the RIGHT thing. I would have done the same and as you can tell - you have a great deal of support here.

Thank YOU for looking out for those who need it, children. I admire you...

Love ya sweetie!

OB

 



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           Tink1976
3.00 (Average) | February 2007 | Tink1976
Child abuse

Of course child abuse should be talked about and as a victim of sexual abuse as a child then I agree that it needs to be out in the open and that children should be made aware of "bad touching" and violent abuse and the need to tell someone.

Although discussing individual cases as this article does is wrong. Outline guidelines to help a child/parents deal with and prevent abuse but do not discuss a childs individual case like it is idle gossip.



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           mummycristlyn
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mummycristlyn
Not the place.
i 100% agree on that oz binky  lexi is only writing advice on wat she has experience and she is trying to make a point that child abuse is not on lexi is a very caring lady  and u do what u have to do lexi u are doing the right thing love from cristlyn


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           Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Wendigo
I second this comment.

I'll comment myself when I have more time, but what Ozbinky has said here is well worth taking heed of in my opinion.



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