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Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

Anonymous Author (March 2007)
I have been noticing a change in the expectations that many parents have of their children.  For example, I was visiting a friend last week  who has a little boy  the same age as my daughter (22months). The house is absolutely spotless and as soon as the boy left
a toy on the floor or dropped a few crumbs on the carpet the mum was frantically cleaning up after him then telling him off for being messy. I have seen this occurring more and more frequently with a number of mums that I associate with. When did having a perfectly kept home become more important than our kids having fun and just being kids? I'm all for teaching them to tidy up when they've finished with something, as long as they're old enough to understand that they're not being "punished" for playing and having fun. My point is that we need to enjoy the time we have with our little ones, they grow up so fast. There is nothing wrong with being houseproud, but when I'm older I want to remember how much fun I had with my children -  rather than regretting the time I spent cleaning instead of playing! There is nothing wrong with being houseproud, and there will be plenty of time to keep your home perfect when the kids grow up and move out. However while they're young just enjoy them. I'm far more impressed by a parent who's main priority is their children, than one who has a sparkling clean house with no fun and laughter
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exquisite-flower
October 2008 | exquisite-flower
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

I agree, our home is nowehere near spotless and we are at the stage now that while we tidy up especially when we know people are visiting and we are more consistent at putting away as we finish things I will not pick up after E as a given.  But I still hold to that one piece of advice I was given when I was pregnant - the housework will still be there when she is 18 and leaving home to go to work/university/travel etc, and at least I will have enjoyed and remembered the special moments in between. 

18 years really isnt that long right?  and already after only 5 years she is responsible for a good degree of her own which frees me up for elsewhere in the house, yay!  It might even be less ... lol

Peace
EF.x



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mummymell
October 2008 | mummymell
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

I think what you're saying is so true, and more mums and dads need to hear that advice. Kids are just kids. Be serious with them when they are old enough to be serious with you.



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pooka
April 2008 | pooka
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

 Good attitude, kids are kids and need space to be creative and room to have accidents without someone hovering over. I think I would drive myself nuts getting my kids to pick up every little thing every minute of the day, but on the other hand a messy house can cause frustration too. So I guess a happy medium is good. 



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OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | OzBinky
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

Good advice and I totally understand where you're coming from....

 



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whome
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | whome
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
the womans crazy kids have to eat and play  i thought thats what parenting was all about leave the cleaning till bedtime if they want show home dont have kids


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Ametrine
January 2008 | Ametrine
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

Hi everyone, I have enjoyed reading all your comments, My children are grown-up ( 25 & 20 )  both are  liveing at home  and I am still unable to get my oldest to tidy up after him self. The youngest has gone the opposite way,  things are still in the boxes thay came in and every thing has it's special place. I'm still workning on where I may have slipped up?

If you can come to some kind of compromise batween tidy and lived in then I think it's a happy home.



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Aaliyah
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | Aaliyah
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
I knew a mother like that...it turned out that her husband was very picky, bordering on obsessive, about the house.  If anything was out of place, it was not good.  So sometimes a mom is probably cleaning in this manner because there is a standard she has to follow according to her husband. 

For me personally, I gave up trying to do it all.  It's weird you know, I went from really good at it with one kid and then when I left the military and moved on with my life and had two more children it's like a big hurricane comes to visit me everyday...I usually clean up when they sleep, I am less apt to yell and they can rest easy having had a full day of destruction.  Glad my Salon locks now lol.  Have a great day.  Great post and thank you.

Sincerely,

Aaliyah


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nome
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | nome
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

Totally Agree there. I am a working mum and i always do a big clean up one or two days a week or at night. Children dont understand why you would rather be cleaning than watching them do something they have learnt.

I also notice a lot that people are getting children to partake in more than there share of cleaning,. Chores are fine as long as they are age appropraiate and perahps rewarded with something (not necessarliy money but maybe an outing or just your attention while they play, (nobody , not even ourselves do something without gettign something out of it).

Its time to ask yourself if what you are asking is understood and if the child is capable of doing it, Let kids be kids,



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BeingParents
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | BeingParents
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
~ Albert Einstein

Let them express their creative imagination.
Letting them make a mess while playing will help to become smarter .
They will thank you when they become rich famous.


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boredmum
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | boredmum
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
Awesome advice!! My mum drives me nuts when we go & stay at her place because she is constantly chasing my 8yr old around cleaning up after him! When my sister takes her kids there mum complains that a tornado has gone through her house.!! Kids need to be kids not little neat freaks!!


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      OzBinky
January 2008 | OzBinky
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

I read this and had to laugh as this must be me with my son and grandchildren - but ya know something - I honestly think this has to do with having done our bit with kids and now it is our time to have our homes and lives they way we want it - if that makes any sense at all....

I don't want toys and mess everywhere any more...I've done that for 20+ years and now its time for me to have my home exactly the way I like and expect it to be....

BUT with this said - I'll think about toning down a little....

lol

Cheers

OB



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angelicarose
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | angelicarose
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
this advice is great, there is nothing worse then living in a house that looks like a display house, thats no home at all!


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Rebecca2
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | Rebecca2
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
Very interesting, thanks


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TRIBE
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | TRIBE
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
Life's to short to worry about the house, kids come first. They are only little once and they grow up to fast. Don't miss out on this stage as you can never rewind time. The house work can be done at the end of the day after you put them to bed.

Enjoy their childhood and let them enjoy that to, as I'm sure you enjoyed yours.
Tomorrows another day! Tribe


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cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | cazza
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
I always feel guilty if my house isnt clean, and i always try and get the kids to clean up, and reward them afterwards/........ I always say my house is a kid house,as when they are at school, you can guaranttee that everything is spotless hehe...

take care
love cazza


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why-in-the-heck
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | why-in-the-heck
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
Oh man, I SO agree! When I can get away with it (that is, when my neat freak boss isn't coming home early) I spend the whole morning playing with Erik and leave the cleaning til when he's having him afternoon nap. I feel more relaxed and he has more fun.


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LavendaLady
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | LavendaLady
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
Agreed!


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chello72
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | chello72
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

I was once given some great advice about keeping home...

"Your house should be clean enough to live in and messy enough to look lived in"

When I had children I made it my motto!

With thre boys my days still seem to be made up of mainly cleaning and tidying..however my home certainly does not like like something out of a Mr Sheen ad...And I'm proud of that...

I also believe if crumbs on the floor are the worst thing that can happen throughout the day...Then please give me that life...lol

 



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Keren
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | Keren
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

Hurrah!! It is wonderful to see that I am not the only parent with this attitude!

My house too looks like a bomb has hit it! No it is not dirty or filthy it is just lived in! Even when I wasn't working full-time my priorities were spending time playing with Blake and enjoying our time together. The washing up could wait until he was in bed!



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Rejen
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Rejen
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
I agree. Natasha takes only minutes to make the house a mess and she loves it. She also loves pack away time (this is so fun it's a game) and I've caught her imitating me with the vacuum cleaner. She is allowed to make a mess and delights in cleaning up spills after her meals and happily washes her hands after being immersed in dirt, paint or whatever else her play entails. At


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      kseers
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | kseers
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
mmmmmm...... mine love the making a mess but not the cleaning up part - that must make a big difference!  Tidying up the house has become my unwinding exercise after they have gone to bed - so they can wake up in the morning and trash it again!


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lisasmith140483
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | lisasmith140483
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

i agree 100% my house looks like a bomb has hit it when the kids get going on the morning and i sont care we play we laugh we have a ball and when they have their nap i tidy up and do what i have to do then we make a mess again when they get up, i teach them to help mumma pick the toys up and put them away, but i think that there is no such thing being a supermum, my kids think im the bst thing in the world and that is all that matters to me. Im all for having a tidy house the only mess we have is toys the bedrooms and kitchen etc are always clean

To all the mums that do have a spotless house and still have time for their kids- well done my hat is off to you

 



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Carmely
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Carmely
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)

I see my kids once a fortnight, and although I am a full time uni student, I still put my kids first.  I do neglect some of the house work, but my children (aged 6 and 9) are old enough to clean up after themselves (to some extent).  I still try to maintain a clean and tidy house when they are with me, so that my attention is directed toward them.



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Brentus
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Brentus
Re: Let kids be kids (and leave the housework 'til later!)
I am told that a lot of parents feel that their capability / worth as a parent is judged by others to large extent by the tidiness of their house. I think that if is true it is a sad state of affairs. Our daughter (10 mth old), is happy, energetic, healthy and known by the nickname of 'Cyclone Lily'. The house is always clean but a lot of the time it looks like a bit of a disaster zone after the cyclone has been through. I think this is great! We tidy up when we can, but I would much prefer to have a disaster zone than have both of us stressing out and giving up family time or personal time to have the house perfect every day.


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mrs-connell
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | mrs-connell
spotless house

I have a spotless house, not because I neglect my daughter but because I think you can have both.

My routine in the morning is get up get dressed have breakfast, go for a walk & a play at the park, when we get home I start my house work while Charli has some TV time, she watches ABC kids & while she is doing that I clean up.

She comes out to the washing line with me to hang out the washing & some mornings she will help me make the beds & vacuum the floors.

When I/ we are finished with the house work (most mornings by 9:30am - 10am)  we will go out side & play on the trampoline ect, them we come in for lunch & when we have had lunch we have some playtime inside, books, puzzles, blocks, ect

While she is playing with what ever she has chosen I will do the lunch dishes, then sit down with her & play.

We don't have a toy room anymore so all Charli's toys are in her bedroom so brings out what she wants to play with & puts it back when she is finished.

So I think you don't have to be pedantic about house work but you can have a spotless house & time for the kids at the same time if you get them involved with what your doing like you get involved in what their doing. 



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      Jessgore
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Jessgore
spotless house
Cool, where can I get a kid that puts away her toys... LOL


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           Flicka
September 2007 | Flicka
Re: spotless house
I have one that cleans up after herself.  If you teach kids to pack away and stop them from playing with something until the last activity is put away they learn to pack up after themselves.  She helps with the housework too.  Puts all her clothes away where they belong after they've been folded.  Folds her own knickers and singlets.  It's a social time for us, we do the folding together and have a chat at the same time.  Works well that way. She knows that at the end of the day whatever isn't picked up and put away goes in the cupboard for a month where she can't play with it!


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      Mandy460
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Mandy460
Re: spotless house
I think it is very possible to have both. I like my house to be clean and neat. Jasmine knows when she is done playing with her toys she puts it back b4 she gets out another one. I dont think it is ever to early to teach children to look after their things and be disciplined to tidy up. im not talking doing housework, just their own toys, and she takes her plate to the kitchen when she has finished eating. i just think its good for her to know boundries.. she has fun throws her toys all over the floor and then puts them away when shes done.


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KyAquarius
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | KyAquarius
Exactly

I make an effort to keep our house clean & tidy. But sometimes you just have to let it go. I wrote an article touching on a few points you've mentioned in yours. I also was to have fond memories of spending quality time with my daughter, not stressing about the housework all the time. My Mum was predantic with housework and therefore missed several fun outings we'd go on as kids - Dad would take us to the beach while Mum stayed home and resigned herself to the housework. I vow never to be like that! *;-)



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mackennasmummy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | mackennasmummy
let kids be kids

my house is clean but its not spotless, the front rooms where people would see when they visit is clean and tidy but the toy room looks like a atom bomb went through it but if i did clean it up it wouldnt be a toy room, kids would never be able to find anything if its spotless lols...

i think your advice was well written and down to a T thanks so much



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mum-of-two
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | mum-of-two
It will be there tomorrow!

I agree  the kids need me most and if that means no washing floors so be it... When our 2 where liitle i would do a little at night or i was making playdough for the next day ..From about 3 my daughter would love using the vac.dusting so we would make games out it ..My son we would play games to put his toys away like dancing to the wiggles to put toys away and see how many we could do  FUN FUN FUN  that is what it is all about.........



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Deborahsc2203
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Deborahsc2203
whats the point it will drive you mad
my house always has toys arround during the day ,, my place is clean as in not dirty and i only pack up the toys just before bedtime and he helps me most days , gosh the more you pick after them the more they are just going to be taking the toys back out again anyway and you waste time during the day cleaning instead of spending it with them also ,, anything that he might break goes right in the bin as well ,,


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Shamali
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Shamali
I'll Admit It

I'll admit to being a little... ok alot obsessive compulsive!!!!!!!!!! A messy house means a cranky mum. I can't help it. I work 40hrs a week and have two children aged 5 and 2. If I fall behind it means our whole weekend is gone as I need to find order again, ie ironing, folding washing, mopping etc etc before the new work/school week. My house is not immaculate but it is clean.

My girls can make a mess with their toys, that is fine but they must put it away when they are finished playing. They don't complain, and I am proud of them when we visit friends and they tidy up after they have finished playing. I have a friend who brings her chn ova and they absolutley trash my girls rooms. I mean broken toys, draws pulled out etc. Their mum never makes them tidy up and doesn't offer to help either. This I find rude and disrepectful! Chn need to learn to be responsible. At work I have heaps of chn that just flat refuse to clean up after themselves. They say "My mum cleans, not me!" and just simple, "No"  this then results in them missing out on privlages.  

I still spend all of my time with the kids when I'm not at work (my youngest goes to work with me). They help me do dishes and fold clothes. They find this fun. We will then do one of their activities, ie. board game, paint etc. I just wash as i go, when I cook. Fold as it dries. I only iron once a week and it normally only takes an hour if I do it every week although most of my cleaning is done when they sleep.It is possible to have both happy chn and a clean home. Having said that, I do have a cyclone house prob one week out of every four!

I just can't relax in a messy house. This has always been an issue with me, as a kid my room was always immaculate! It stood out too cause our house was always 'lived in!' Maybe that's why I'm like this hehehehe

 



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      yasmin78
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | yasmin78
I'll Admit It

I certainly agree that kids should be taught to pack up when they are finished with something, when we visit friends I make sure they put things back as they found them. Just to clarify, I'm not condoning kids trashing the house. I just mean that there are jobs that don't involve them that I'd rather leave til they're asleep than being to busy to play with them during the day. I can tell you if I was working 40hours a week I'd need things more organized too! Good on you for working so hard and keeping the house under control at the same time



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madchanny
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | madchanny
I very much agree :)
my house is never too clean, its neat, tidy, and the only thing i cant stand is things that should be put in the rubbish.. i do dishes during Koens nap, and then after i put him to bed at night, so from 8 - 8:30pm onwards, i have plenty of time to to the rest of the cleaning once everyones in bed


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LaRenae
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | LaRenae
I do/did it too !

When my boy was six months old we moved to a much nicer home and I became a Neat Freak ! Every little crumb, every little dust ball ... I was FRANTIC ! He is now a toddler and makes much bigger messes all the time ... after a while I have just come to the conclusion that if the floor isn't vacuumed every day that the world will not end ... I understand now that playing hide and seek within the house with my boy is much more fun than finding the "dust bunny" under the furniture ... And I realize that our quality time together is much more important than doing dishes ... As long as the environment is safe and tidy enough, spotlessness is not important ... Making my baby laugh and smile is so much more important than if the house is super squeaky sterile clean ... Some things, you should just let it go to a point ... and enjoy your little ones and the messes they make ... Thanks so much for your article !



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madmelsBACK
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | madmelsBACK
i agree!
Well written. My house is clean but not spotless. I dont see the point in worrying anout the kids leaving a mess... after all they are just kids!


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janicepovey
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | janicepovey
I agree

I agree with you, very well put. I believe there is a difference between a house and home, A house is where everything has a place and there's no warmth, But a home is where there is love and laughter, clean but not spotless,and plenty of warmth and above all a home is where children can be children.

Regards Janice



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Tammy13
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Tammy13
Excellent!

I agree with you 200%! and well done for saying what's on your mind! most people i know would be shocked to hear it, let along say it! you are so right! let children be children and do the houswork later! When my son was a baby i've done most of my housework at night, and now that he's older and going to pre-school, and since i am working from home (Internet) i can allow myself to clean while my son is in pre-school. but even if i was working outside, i would still do the cleaning at night. Actually - I still do sometimes. and i think that's how it should be. and it doesn't mean i became a "slave" to my child. It means i put him first, his needs, and the fact that he is, mainly, a child. And i want him to enjoy it as long as he can, as long as i can - until he'll grow up and will have to start cleaning his own home...

Well done!



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Marglr
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Marglr
Home not house
Yup,I was one of those...clean,clean.clean..even the dressers drawers were in perfect order. Then my fifth child came along and it was,on top of never sleeping,impossible so I thought and desided what did I want my energy to go to? Kids won! So the house was clean but the drawers were a mess!


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dramamom
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | dramamom
I love your reasoning
I don't want to spend all my time cleaning.  Our house is tidy, but it's certainly not perfectly clean.  Arianna tidies her toys every night before bed and that's all we really worry about.


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Gypsie
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Gypsie
Well Said

I couldn't agree more. That's why I generally tidy and do dishes well into the evening when the children are sleeping.

But also...10 minutes here and there throughout the day does  keep things tidy.

Nothing wrong with being in a house that actually looks lived in.... :)



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      Gypsie
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Gypsie
Well Said

Besides...God created dust...Who am I to disturb it...rofl

Then again.....Housework won't kill...but Why , take the chance. :)))



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           yasmin78
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | yasmin78
Well Said

LOL that is hilarious xxxx



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betsyloo
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | betsyloo
let kids be kids
I have six kids,(three stil at home) and two graddaughters, i have always let them play and have fun and laugh with them, and then when they are finished with whatever they were playing with then they put it away. If you clean up after them all day, then you have no time left to be with them. My house has always been clean but it also is untidy most of the time because the kids are having fun.


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kseers
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | kseers
Totally agree
I must admit I tend to go the other way but I know what you mean and think it is sad.


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RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | RebeccaDorant
hehe
i know i've already posted but can someone send this article to my mother lol


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      monyq83
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | monyq83
hehe
rofl and while theyre at it can they send it to mine and my ex mother in law as well? oh you may as well send it to my grandma too while ur at it lol


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           RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | RebeccaDorant
hehe
sure you don't need it lol sounds like it runs in the family hehehe... kidding :)'s for you mony


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mcm
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | mcm
Balance
Meant to say its a matter of balance.
I teach my kids to help me clean - they have their own responsibilities within the household.
It can be stressful for me when the house looks destroyed - which it does most of the time but that is the nature of having thses kids! :D


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mcm
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | mcm
Housework or kids
I chose to be a Mum, not a housewife, its sad that ppl still don't see how important having time to just be with the kids.


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      monyq83
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | monyq83
Housework or kids
couldnt have said it better myself


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      samantha
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | samantha
Housework or kids
hu???? not a housewife, can't you be a good house wife and good mum at the same time????  why don't you involve your children in the chores, thats a great way to spend time with the kids and get house work done at the same time, also if you keep up with your housework you'll be surprised just how much extra time you'll have left over for your kids and hubby, and don't forget dad is part of the package as well ,he's the one out there bringing in the money for the family, the least we can do is take good care od the kids and home while hes out bringing in the bacon to show how much we love them and apreciate them 


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           mcm
April 2007 | mcm
Housework or kids
If only life was that black and white, huh?
Some people can do it all - I myself have trouble. Atm I am struggling with things in my life. I feel accomplished in the small things. I rather not stress over the house. I much rather my kids are happy. Kids grow up so quickly.


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           tassiebiarch
3.67 (Good) | April 2007 | tassiebiarch
Housework or kids
i am sorry but i don't agree  just because the man brings in the income we have to do all this thats crap thats so old school both man and woman decide to have a baby and most men have to work and we do work (bringing up children) thats our job thats what we choose to do but sometimes i am so buggerd that i can't do the housework ,look after the kids have a meal on the table etc. etc. i have told my husband that he works i look after the kids and we share the chores thats life this is year 2007 things change


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                Jessgore
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Jessgore
Housework or kids
Your right it is old school, but you know what, I kind of like the feeling I am looking after my hubby like that.. He looks after me very well and although I am not the kind of house wife I personally would like to be, I still like to think that he looks after me and I make sure he has clean jocks and socks and a happy home to come too..

That way when I say I am taking the night off he can't complain... :)

It is not for every one.. But it works for me and that hubby.. That is not to say that the hubby expects it. It is just what I do, the way I work I guess....

Like I said it is not for everyone... But I am happy to say if I say jump he will so it is not like he won't help.. Just he needs to have a little push every now and then because I pamper my hubby....   (And then mothers day it is all mine, lots of goodies...  LOL)


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                     samantha
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | samantha
Housework or kids
i am with you on that, my husband dosn't demand or expect it, i just like to do it cause it makes him happy which makes me happy, and yeh you get heaps of perks, my hubby is really good to  me and i am good to him, i believe you need to treat people how you want yourself treated, this includes hubby, unless you just plain don't like them lol


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                samantha
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | samantha
Housework or kids
really??? so you think that the blokes if there working full time and long hours they should do half our work as well??? my husband does  the outside jobs, mowing lawn, gardens takes rubish out and helps with baths and setting the table, but i would never expect him to do half my job, cleaning cooking ect, thats just not fare, does no one else here like the feeling of acomplishment, wow i am amazed, i am proud to be old schooled, so what do you's call what is in these days "lazy schooled lol" i know that may offend some but i cannot see how expecting a husband or partner that works full time ( and only if they work, otherwise yes they should deffinaltely do half)have to also do half our job, that just crazy in my opinion, i really just cannot work that one out at all, i'm am trying very hard to understand what alot of you have said,but its just dosn't make sense, i am sorry if this anoys anyone but it truly does puzzle me, if i was to leave half the house work and cooking to my husband i would be bored stiff, (NOT TO MENTION MY HUSBAND WOULD BE FRAZZLED AND THAT JUST NOT FARE HE IS TIRED ENOUGH AT THE END OF THE DAY TO COME HOME TO COOKING HIS OWN MEA l amd and i still get to the gym and go shopping and find time to come here on minti and visit friends on occations and have the odd late night here on minti or wacthing telli, and i have 10 million other things going on also at the moment ( selling house, moveing ect)


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                     samantha
April 2007 | samantha
Housework or kids
woops! i accidently did that in capitals, very sorry, i also accidently pressed save when i meant o press delete crap!


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                          samantha
April 2007 | samantha
Housework or kids
why is it you cannot delete what you've written?? rrrrrrr


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                               RebeccaDorant
May 2007 | RebeccaDorant
Housework or kids
you could report your own comments to delete them


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                samantha
April 2007 | samantha
Housework or kids
really??? so you think that the blokes if there working full time and long hours they should do half our work as well??? my husband does  the outside jobs, mowing lawn, gardens takes rubish out and helps with baths and setting the table, but i would never expect him to do half my job, cleaning cooking ect, thats just not fare, does no one else here like the feeling of acomplishment, wow i am amazed, i am proud to be old schooled, so what do you's call what is in these days "lazy schooled lol" i know that may offend some but i cannot see how expecting a husband or partner that works full time ( and only if they work, otherwise yes they should deffinaltely do half)have to also do half our job, that just crazy in my opinion, i really just cannot work that one out at all, i'm am trying very hard to understand what alot of you have said,but its just dosn't make sense, i am sorry if this anoys anyone but it truly does puzzle me, if i was to leave half the house work and cooking to my husband i would be bored stiff, (NOT TO MENTION MY HUSBAND WOULD BE FRAZZLED AND THAT JUST NOT FARE HE IS TIRED ENOUGH AT THE END OF THE DAY TO COME HOME TO COOKING HIS OWN MEA l and i still get to the gym and go shopping and find time to come here on minti and visit friends on occations and have the odd late night here on minti or wacthing telli, and i have 10 million other things going on also at the moment ( selling house, moveing ect)


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                     samantha
April 2007 | samantha
Housework or kids
oh dear! and then it saved twice oops! bloody thing lol


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                madmelsBACK
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | madmelsBACK
Housework or kids
I agree tassie chickie! I am all for that! I hate how its WE have to clean and look after the kids and cook because they work. PMAL NO WAY! We work 24/7 looking after kids. They should do HALF the housework (or atleast make a concerted effort!) and he stuck it in there and helped make a baby so helping out with the child and spending time with it shoud be a given.


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           RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | RebeccaDorant
Housework or kids
i's spying on what you been up to today... :)'s hehe you is so old school samantha, it's so cool  i would agree except that my mum thought this and reminded us of it all the time, and she sucked at it... the house was spotless but my brother and i played on our own. so if you know the secret can you please please teach me.... i rully would like to be able to keep the house clean and still have time for two kiddies. i cant fathom how you keep your house so nice and have 6 such happy kiddies. (kiall makes most of the mess here maybe i shoud send him to work away with rob.) lol... so please please please tell me how you do it :)'s and admiration for you mate


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                samantha
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | samantha
Housework or kids
my house is never spotless, lets put it that way, but i keep my house clean, i am not one of these up tight people with plush white carpets were kids cannot drop a crumb, but i do take pride in my house in the sence that i like it clean and organized, i don't mind mess and toys around the place (i pick then up when there in the road though lol, wouldn't want anyone to break there necks lol) i just find that being organized makes you very ifficiant, so it takes little or no time to get the daily cleaning done,(unless i have 10 million other things going on lol, as i do at times with 6 kids in the house) and yes i guess i am a bit old school even my dad says that, but i get that from my mum lol she thinks this way also, i just like the feeling of a clean organized home, and how proud my partner is when he comes home to clean kids, clean house, and a hot meal hahahaha wow that does sound old school yikes! maybie i better start rebelling from my straight ways lol, no not really i like it this way, and my kids and hubby do also,  they like the routine and a clean fun home, also i've been into some homes of parents (not yours bec your house is clean) and i am astonished, it is just discusting, and they just say "what would i want to waste my time cleaning for" well come on girls, i think to myself, you gotta clean up, you can't let kids live in this mess!!! its just shocking, i put it down to just  laziness, there is just no exuse, and then they wonder why there husbands harp at them when they get home saying "this place is a mess what do you do all day?" thats what i wonder also, ANYWAYS, i am not a clean FREAK hehe i just like a clean home, mess does not bother me in the slightestso if there is anyone here who thinks otherwise.... you are wrong hehe


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                     RebeccaDorant
May 2007 | RebeccaDorant
Housework or kids
ahhh this is the old school comment you ment hehe rofl... i was serious ya gotta teach me how you stay so orgamanised, open a cupboard here and stuff falls out hehe it is so plainly obvious that you like to be busy... but ya is good at relaxing too... nice bbq on sat for eg.  ya is soo coolies mate hehe.. you were one of those people born to be a mum i think... by old school i mean you are happy with what you have, 50 years ago you would have been the norm but nowdays it's rare to find a samantha type person... most people always want more and more and more and are never truly happy because of that want... you look after yourself and your family and you are happy with life.... that kind of happyness is getting rarer now... believe me i wish people would understand that we dont want more as a family if anything we want less (a dodgy old bus and a couple of beds in it with our family close is enough) it urks me to the ends of the earth that people always go on to kiall that he should have a full time job and stop volenteering for oxfam they have no idea how happy it makes him knowing he is making a difference to people who need it most thats all he needs after all and that is what is important right?... we are not so different after all mate :)'s to ya and your beautiful family... you are trully blessed... (that means the same from any angle)


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                          RebeccaDorant
May 2007 | RebeccaDorant
Housework or kids
oh btw... i agree with what you said about making eachother happy, kiall does most of the cooking here because he knows i hate cooking dinner too tired by then and he's still bouncin then... but i do things like vaccuming because he will have an asthma attack if he does it...eep! well that was a bad example but you know what i mean hehe...happy partner is always handy... hehe :)'s


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                     madmelsBACK
3.15 (Average) | April 2007 | madmelsBACK
Housework or kids
HEHE I DISAGREE LMAO!
Well no acutually... I will not have a meal ready when they get home. But I have a tidy house. Somedays it looks like a cyclone has hit it but just as you have said i will admit its cos im having a lazy day (because of either no sleep or sick) and just CBF cleaning it. Ill do it when the kids go to bed :)
Hey come over and teach me a few things would ya lmao!!


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monyq83
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | monyq83
I couldnt agree more
This is so true. I leave the house till they go to bed and get stuck into it then. Id rather see them enjoy themselves than anything else. Of course Ill clean up if we are having people over but I think its a waste of time trying to have a spotless house all the time when you have kids living under your roof!


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      RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | RebeccaDorant
I couldnt agree more
i know if i tryed to i'd go nuts hehe... see i have a kiall under this roof and he is the chaos master... he actually worships the lord of chaos :) and he goes around the house and makes mess for me to clean up... it's a good working relationship lol...i never needed kids to give me cleaning to do (although he is doing a good job of teaching our son)... i had that job already hehehe


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           blackwidowkate
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | blackwidowkate
I couldnt agree more
Hi
I have the lord of chaos at my house
Do you want her
My 17 month old is the lord.....
Rowan was helping her clean up after she emptied my drawers in the kitchen and when they had finished before he could say good girl she had emptied them all again and was laughing at him.
I have never seen a kid trash the house in as short a time as she does...discipline is out the window with this one...nothing works....
I only wish
Luv Deb


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                RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | RebeccaDorant
LORD OF CHAOS
hehe sounds like the LOC has a presance in your house kiall is teaching logan to be like that lol crazi dude


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                     RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | RebeccaDorant
LORD OF CHAOS
kiall just said thanx for spreading the word and all who worship the lord of chaos will be redeemed... rofl :)'s deb hope for your sake she grows out of it ...lol


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ssedgar
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | ssedgar
too true
Well said, i love running around and plating with my boys, once they go to bed i clean the dishes and do the washing, it is far more important to know they are happy and healthy than to know i have a sparkling house but my children are unhappy!


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monarogirl
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | monarogirl
Well said
A friend came over once and while we were still out the front I warned her that the house was messy. (Toys etc). She said "I don't care. I came to see you not your house."
The housework will always be there but kids grow up quick.
Stop cleaning and go and have some fun!


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4BOYZ
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | 4BOYZ
I agree
I'm a bit of a clean freak in a sense that once everything is finished that the house must be left how you found it. But saying that I love making mess with the kids and just doing all the fun stuff I did as a kid. Plus toys on the floor is not mess, it just shows that you have kids in the house.


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Marlena
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Marlena
I agree
I don't understand how people can keep up with the house work and have kids and I don't care to find out.  I do teach my son that he has to clean up after himself when he spills or at the end of the night when he is done playing with his toys I am starting to ask him to tidy up.  I knew this kid that would when eating chips have one chip at a time then run to the kitchen and clean his fingers off on a cloth then go eat another chip.  I really wonder if he developed this because his mother was a neat freak.  Great advice and you know it is just really nice to spend time with the kids. 


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      RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | RebeccaDorant
I agree
hehe my son does that and i'm the total oppisite of a clean freak...lol... he just dosn't like having dirty hands, like his daddy he would prefer to be on the computer playing with his virtual cats or his maths games than in the sandpit...lol... just how he is


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           madmelsBACK
April 2007 | madmelsBACK
I agree
Jaidan is the same. He hates having stuff on his hands. He wont even lick chocolate off. He will cry and get really upset till I clean it. I should take him to see the doctor but from memory of my child care course its called "Tactile Sensitive"... I really hope he grows out of it as its really annoying!


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Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Kellzacar
Let kids be kids

Well Said . . .

Also there is a huge difference between a messy house and a dirty house.

A mess y house means happy kids . . . A dirty house means sick kids . .

I've got happy kids . ..

Cheers Kellz



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mandymum3
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | mandymum3
Yep
toys on the floor mean happy kids


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samantha
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | samantha
mmmm
yeh i can sorta see your point, but children need to be tought from an early age to pick up after them selves 22 months is not to young, plus they can make all the  mess they want at the table or outside and i think cleaning up straight away after makes house work alot easier in the long run, as  you don't find yourself haveing to do big clean ups so therefore you have more time for your family, well thats what i do anyway, i just make sure i clean up after they have finished then its done and plenty more time left for storys and outside play


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      yasmin78
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | yasmin78
mmmm

I just read your profile and if I had 6 kids they would be learning from day one to clean up after themselves! You are a supermum

I agree 22 months isn't too young, I do encourage Bella to put things away when she's finished with them. I just don't chase her around with a chux and spray and wipe waiting for the next spillage like my friends seem to lol



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           samantha
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | samantha
mmmm
yeh but who really does that???? running after them with a spray bottle lol i think you may be over egagerateing lol if thats how you spell it, and i'm still trying to teach my kids to clean up after themselves lol, we'll get there eventually, but i still think it is easier to clean as you go, so there are no big clean ups, as i've found i spend fare less time cleanig this way, same with the washing ect, as soon as theres a pile in it goes, and then straight on the line, its fare easier, and i have time left over for cooking and drawing with the kids, and i still find time to get to the gym, and get out to the shops


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                yasmin78
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | yasmin78
mmmm
I swear to god I'm not exaggerating. One friend in particular will take your plate from you as soon as the last bite is in your mouth and start the dishes. I am starting to think she might have obsessive compulsive disorder........


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                     samantha
April 2007 | samantha
mmmm
wow thats pretty full on, there are actually quite few people around with that sort of problem come to think of it, i remeber a freind of my dads wife, as soon as anyone used the toilet she was in there cleaning it and as soon as a crumb hit the floor it was gone, eveything was imaculate it was incredible, i remember always feeling really uncomfortable when i was little as she was always watching our every move yike! i forgot about all those freaksthere was also this lady that stayed at the ronald mcdonal house one time and she was shocking, she had this problem were she composivly would wash her hands, her hands were red raw, and the manager was sayig how the water bill sky rocketed, she was crazy she spent her whole time scrubbing her hands it was incredible


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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | nell18-3
House or Home
I agree with you
I always say I don't live in a show  house
I live in a regular home with children
I don't like grime but perfection leaves me very uncomfortable, if I go into a pristine home, I feel just by being there I am making it messy
Children need to be relaxed and comfy in their homes they can't do that if we're worried about a few toys or crumbs
Great Piece
xxx



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RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | RebeccaDorant
houseproud vs parents

i've been told (by people who don't have lil ones at home) that both can be achieved.....i pmsl and then they left....

with all the other cool things we could be doing with our kiddies y would we spend that time cleaning. infact y am i online, i could be playing with my bub and son :)'s for you....bye lol



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youngmumof2
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | youngmumof2
Kids will be kids
I'm with you on this one. I use to have my house like your friends, mainly due to the in-laws saying things about how clean my house was. Anyway, in the end i gave up. Now i warn people that the house will be a mess during the day due to a large number of toys and crumbs around the house from my daughter. If they don't want to see it they don't come round. I do my final clean for the day when Iesha goes to bed. Otherwise all i seem to be doing all day is cleaning. That's no fun for anyone.


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      yasmin78
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | yasmin78
Kids will be kids
I do the cleaning when Isabella is asleep too, and it gets done twice as fast because she's not messing things up that I've just cleaned lol


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