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Who Wants to be Shouted At?

nell18-3 by nell18-3 Young Parent(March 2007) (rank 1st)

Okay I confess there have been times when the deep breath hasn't worked and I have shouted at my children

I guess we have all been there

What does it get us

Apologetic, Sincere, Regretful and Obedient Children ............

Not in my Home!!!!!


I get from my children:

Angry, Moody, Sulky or even worse......

Demoralised Children

I have been shouted at enough to know that no good comes from it.
The feelings that rise up are usually:

ANGER

Adult  reaction - Who do you think you are shouting at me
Child reaction - I'm not listening to you

MOODY


Adult  reaction - Slamming doors, Throwing things...
Child reaction - Throwing toys, slamming doors, Loud Music from bedrooms.......

SULKY

Adult reaction - Ignoring people, not communicating, build up of resentment......
Child reaction - Pouting, Turning their back to you, putting on their headphones, muttering under their breath......

FEAR

Adult reaction - Loss of respect, being afraid, losing confidence....
Child reaction - Terror, Nervousness around you, no self confidence.......

DEMORALISATION


Adult reaction - We lose our identity and try to become the person we think the other wants us to become, we make ourselves ill, we believe ourselves to be mentally ill, we lose our ability to think for ourselves, we no longer know our own minds, we allow others to make our decisions,  we become dependant on the other adult who has demoralised us, a feeling of worthlessness,  we become confused, we lose our morale and develop a weak spirit and eventually we snap...... we can go one of two ways
1) Into a severe breakdown or depression
2) We break free of our 'captor'

Shouting at an adult to the point of bringing them down to this level is emotional abuse.


Child reaction - The child will never grow to their full potential, they will become introverted children and find it difficult to make friends, they are likely to become either bullied or the child who becomes the bully themselves, they will be unsure of themselves, they will feel themselves to be both unloved and not worthy of receiving love, they will look and search for happiness in other things as they get older, they will push you away as they feel its better to push you away then be hurt and rejected again.

Shouting at your children to the point of bringing them to this level is emotional abuse.


Emotional abuse is ONE of the worst kinds of abuse to ever recover from
It leaves no visible marks or bruises
The injuries are all internal to the Heart, Soul and Spirit

Next time you think you are going to lose it with your child and yell and shout, take a time out, take a deep breath, calm down
THEN AND ONLY THEN WHEN YOU ARE BACK UNDER CONTROL
discuss the problem with your child, in a firm, authoritive BUT LOVING manner

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aimj73
November 9th | aimj73
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?

Incidentally, I was just about to write about this after I read the article in the New York times entitled "For Some Parents, Shouting Is the New Spanking".

And in many ways, it is true.

Spanking was a normal thing when I was growing up and although I personally don't have any bad memories of it (my sisters do), I've promised myself never to spank my son.

And because of this, I do find myself resorting to shouting when I'm at the end of my tether.  Don't you sometimes feel that after all the endless soft-tone voice, all that you've got left is to yell? I know it doesn't do any good but really how many of us parents are equipped with the skills to "not yell" when we're already so frustrated?

 Anyway, as a parent, apart from the breathing technique, what else do you do to refrain from yelling?

 



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sandra106
August 27th | sandra106
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?

Excellent advice great article well worth the read.



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August 13th | dimmzero
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anniebabe
July 5th | anniebabe
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?

great article helen

very powerful and emotional subject that needs to be addressed.

annie



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nelodra
February 2009 | nelodra
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?

Very good and informative article.



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exquisite-flower
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2007 | exquisite-flower
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
Earlier this afternoon I was reading your series of articles about relaxation techniques.  I think that when we indulge ourselves and look after number one in this way we are more patient and forebearing with situations we encounter - especially those including our children and their perceptions of the world as they know it.
Peace
EF.x 


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      nell18-3
December 2007 | nell18-3
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
Great point made EF
Thankyou
xxx


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Arna
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | Arna
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
well, I must confess, I've just snapped at my oldest as the softly approach didn't work.  4 times I tried getting her attention and she just kept ignoring me!  LOL.  I'm not the most patient person, especially when it comes to noise, but I have found over the last year or so that my tolerance of my girls has gotten to be more and I am able to enjoy being with them more.  It is the occasional bark these days, just to get the attention I've been trying to get for 5 minutes!

On a very personal note, what you describe is how I was through my child hood.  I'm adopted but the 2 years I was in the foster care system had already done the damage.  I was both a bully and the bullied, just depednded on how i was feeling at the time.  Thankfully, I have better balance in my life now and my mum won the battle she desperately wanted to win.  It took over 20 years, but I am grateful she did!


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      Arna
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | Arna
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
by the way, you wrote this really well!


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mumof3-1982
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | mumof3-1982
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
My 2 year old is at the stage now where he wants to help me tidy up everything, so we make it a game, I only have to say pick up time and he waddles around picking everything up, its very cute. My 5 yo is not so co-operative most of the time. I don't smack my kids unless i absolutely have to, which is barely ever, but yelling, I do, do. But I never degrade my kids, yeling for me is more of a pay attention to me thing.


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boredmum
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | boredmum
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?

Thanks for writing such great advice. I'm a yeller, I try not to be ,buts it's very hard when you have asked for something to be done 100 times & still get ignored!  I loved everyones  trick for getting the bedroom tidy, I am going to try that tonight!

Great article, well done.



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      mumof3-1982
1.00 (Very Poor) | November 2007 | mumof3-1982
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
Here here!


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HarrisonsMommy
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | HarrisonsMommy
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?

Well Said.

Angela



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sebcanatalay
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | sebcanatalay
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?

This is great I always try to remember but as you say some times it doesn't work and I feel so guelty. It is good refreshing. Thanks

Love Seb



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sluxton
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | sluxton
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?

This is beautifully written and I so need a lesson in it.  I come from a long line of yellers to the point that I am now a yeller. 

But I always make sure we have "good time" together each day as well.  I only yell when I have asked calmly lots of times before (e.g. for teeth to be cleaned or for them to get dressed or pick up toys.  Yes they are young but they can do all these things and have done all these things so many times themselves before, so I am not being unreasonable to ask them).

I remember as a child I got sick of being yelled at and always tried to the right thing.  What I hated was that I wasn't given many chances and was misunderstood many a time.  We weren't hugged a lot, we weren't played with a lot (meaning our parents didn't get down on the floor and play games with us).  All this is important.  But I also think that at some stage in life, someone will yell at them and it will upset them more if they haven't experienced it at some stage at home.  I still dont condone the practice but it is a normal reaction (however much we must learn to control our anger) and if pushed people yell.  It is unnatural to never yell.



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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | nell18-3
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
Thankyou for your comment
I think we are capable of a good yell now and then LOL
Especially under extreme provocation
xxx


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emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | emmie
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?

i totally agree great advice

luv emz xx



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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | nell18-3
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
Thankyou Emz
You been busy reading again LOL!!!!
xxx


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Mystique
4.81 (Excellent) | July 2007 | Mystique
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
Well written and very very true! Think before you act, thats what alot of parents need to learn.

One of my so-called friends in particular sits on her PC from the moment she wakes to moment she sleeps. Her 2 year old can't speak properly cos she doesn't give him any attention.

When she does give them attention its in the form of screaming at them to shut up cos she can't think while shes "chatting". She has even thrown a bottle at her 5 year old and cut his mouth open, then told him to go wash out his mouth cos he was bleeding everywhere and ruining the furniture. That he discusted her.

I hate it. DOCS had been called on her but they never did anything about it. When I'm there, I spend all the time I can with them cos she doesn't realise what she's doing to them!!


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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | nell18-3
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
That is so sad, what a shame for those poor children
Sounds like you are doing what you can to support themxx


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      Arna
November 2007 | Arna
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
That is sad Mystique.  I am on my computer most of the day too (oops, at!) but I am watching my girls all the time still and interacting with them.  I do have set times when I'm not here and mostly I'm having tv time with them.  Or trying to get the baby to sleep.  If I didn't have Minti, I would go nuts!

There are parents out there who really don't seem to get what parenting is about and they don't deserve to have these sweet, adorable little people in theirs lives.


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llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | llmunchkin
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
What lovely advice, and so true - I can't believe that I hadn't read it sooner, and I certainly do my best to adhere to this too.  Being yelled at is nasty for everyone of all ages - especially children.


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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | nell18-3
Re: Who Wants to be Shouted At?
Thankyou
I believe words can be totally soul destroying
xx


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merlin0903
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | merlin0903
shouting

i grow up with a father that only knew how to talk to his children by shouting and even tho we are both grown up now and have our own lives he still sometimes shouts at us

great advice sweetie i wish that i had that when i was growing up



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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | nell18-3
shouting
That must have been really hard growing up like that
thankyou for your comment
xxx


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lunaeclips5
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | lunaeclips5
When We Dont Know What to Do!!!
Sometimes we shout because our emotions build up so much we cant hold them in any longer, i know i used to be the worst when i was a teen, frustrations of never being heard, my emotions would build up, i'd start crying then abuse the person my mum dad or brothers for being arrogant. Anger & Frustration are emotions normal emotions, people get upset wehen we get angry most of the time because they either dont care or are to worried about there own lives, they only take it to heart when you say something insensitive about them while yelling, then they rebel and Hate you. You cant control what comes natural & after years of not being heard sometime this is all some people can do, because they fear they will only recieve the same end result! My opinion of myself anyway!


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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | nell18-3
When We Dont Know What to Do!!!
I still flinch now if I hear shouting and I can't stand being near any kind of tension even if I am not involved.
I try real hard not to shout at the boys but sometimes its the only way they would hear me!!!!!
I just regret it after cos I know how demoralising it is
xxx


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jenbann
3.15 (Average) | March 2007 | jenbann
yelling

do you listen when your partner ylls, or did you listen when your parents yelled at you. I try were possbile to calm the boys down enough to get down to their level and talk to them like an adult even if the eldest is only 4. If he does something wrong he is sent to a corner of the lounge (not his bedroom as I don't want it to be seen as a bad place to be) he sits there until he calms down (which is now becoming faster as he is learning the routine) and when he has calmed down I ask him to come sit with me and talk. I ask why he did why he did and why he thinks I made him sit in time out. 9/10 he has worked it out and either appoligises or we discuss it more with explination as to why these things happened.

It would be nice if it worked this easy all the time but what we must remember is when someone is yelling the are overwhelmed with emotion it is like they are in their own bubble and nothing matters unless its what they want. Let them vent and get it out before trying to tackle the issue.

I have used the bin trick o few times but have never actually thrown the items away instead I put them away for a month or so then bring them out when the kids have been extra well behaved. It works a treat they are so excited to have their favourite toys back nothing else matters and they are rewarded for behaving at the same time and it hasn't cost me anything but time.



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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | nell18-3
yelling
Exactly
Who listens when your being yelled at??????
Much better and more calmer and effective ways to get them to listen to you
Thanks for your comment
xxx


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      lunaeclips5
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | lunaeclips5
From the eye's of an abused child

When you are a child and i mean right threw to teens and adults as in my case, and you make the tinyest mistake and your constantly being yelled at for it and the words that are being said are. Will you just stop it, your not any good at it, i hate it, i hate it when you. when you do that to a child they have no option other than to listen esspecially when you are yelling inches from there face. They are your parents who are supposed to love you and care about you Especially when they also hit you, wheather this be with a hand or strap so on. As a child the only words i ever heard where taken straight to my heart because it was if  they said them because they hated me. There words where telling me they hated me, all i ever tried to do was please my parents and in return i got no thanks no oh your good at that. Just quiet it stop it. No, No, No, No selfishness. Every word they said to me while yelling only told me one thing that they didn't like me. I cant cope when i get near people that i think may have the tinyest problem with me. I avoid the whole situation just incase they scream like my mum & dad did. I always think i'm no good at thing and i never put in any effort because i feel as though if i make a mistake i'm going to get hurt and if you make a mistake with a complete stranger you really get hurt. There not going to just scream at you they are going to really hurt you. I succlude myself from people just so i dont get yelled at and hurt, i dont trust anyone, unless i have known them for years & years and i feel like there personality is friendly and i can genuinly talk to them, its easier for me to talk in a chat room than in a room full of people, because i am a stranger you pass on by and forget what i have said because you don't need to know me. Anyway this subject is probably still falling on deaf ears thanks nell nobody ever believes whats right in front of there faces always blind only concerned with there own comings and goings..  Cant be told from the horses mouth it always only comes from the horses arse.



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           nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | nell18-3
From the eye's of an abused child
I'm so sorry you had to go through all that whilst growing up.
I wouldn't wish it on my greatest enemy to be brought up thinking all your life that what you do is never going to be good enough.
I know exactly what you mean about chat rooms, I am the same with Minti, I don't talk to anyone very often face to face but here I can be me, I too avoid confrontation on all levels, I'm even uneasy watching an argument brewing on a film or tv show, makes me very nervous.
Lets hope this won't always fall on deaf ears
Thankyou for saying what you think and being brave enough to talk about your past
xxx


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blackwidowkate
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | blackwidowkate
Me too
Hi
Too many of us, me  included, are so used to the yelling thing we do it automatically
I yell rather than hit or bash...but it is doing more damage to everything.
I am in the process of seeing someone to try to change and become a better mum....
My rule for the rooms now is they are asked twice to clean them and if they don't i go in and do it for them and its amazing how much the green filing cabinet (wheelie bin) can hold.
It is also amazing less and less toys and stuff that is wanted is left on the floor now.
Both being teenagers now start to yell and i now say write it down....they each have a book for their greivances and at least that way i know what they are as my brain is on holidays and remembers very little..seems to work some days
Luv Deb


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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | nell18-3
Me too
I do the bin trick with the bedrooms too!
At least it gets them moving pretty quickly
Shouting is such a hard thing to not do sometimes, but the destruction that a good yelling brings with it, takes a long long time to heal
Thanks Deb
xxx


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Libby24
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Libby24
this are so right
I think the worst part of reading this to me is...
I was the victim to all of this as a child. Mum always said children are not ment to be heard unless spoken to. The hard bit for me is NOT repeating her methods. My reation to anything is to yell, I think because i feel so usless. (exactly as it says above) I try so hard when my 2 kids do something naughty to count to ten and with a tough voice i guess you could call it tell them off. But it is so hard to do sometimes. I need to break the habbit .
Liz


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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | nell18-3
this are so right
Its a really hard habit to break it. But you have recognised the pattern behaviour of your own upbringing and you know the hurt that it brings with it so you are half way there.
My children are so much more co operative when I reason  with them and explain why I want something done or not done as opposed to a yelling session where they withdraw I never manage to make my point anyway and we reach stale mate.
Keep working on it and you will come through
xxx


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           lunaeclips5
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | lunaeclips5
this are so right
Im still getting over the fact of how my parents thought there friends and there lives and there work was always & still is the most important thing to them. I never ever had someone to guide me, show me, explain to me what i need to do to better my self for my future, i had to work it out the hard way. Thats part of the reson they copped my abuse in the first place.They thought believing i was a mixed up kid on drug that needed yelling at was the better approach for me. It wasn't, it still isnt & they still go about there lives not even realising or able to be told that they are the reson why there family has fallen appart, why there daughter bearly visits them, why the kids hate each other. I was never a mixed up kid on drugs never touched them, but i was the kid that lost her way when she need guidance & the kid who latched on to the first person who showed her he cared who ended up in an abusive Relationship, with a partner she cant trust with kids who cant live with there father & mother because if he does come back they will see what he did to me as he still trys to pull a swifty on me & this time they'll remember it. I feel strong sometimes because i told him to leave, but because i love him & my kids i am a mess that cant trust anyone fully just incase i get hurt by someone again. I am extremely lonely, But i cant confide in a friend as i cant handle being jugded anymore. I blame myself all the time for my life being messed up. When i look at my kids the only thing in this world i'll ever wish for now is that i can give them the guidance they need, i will never abuse my kids i will never just brush my kids off & i will always show my kids i love them with all my heart so that they are able to have a normal life.


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                nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | nell18-3
this are so right
I know just what you mean
I punish myself mentally for being the "victim" of an abusive marriage and I don't trust any friends here either, I had one friend I poured my heart out too only for her to listen then tell me my Ex wouldn't do that.!!!! I am so sick of being judged too by people who only see the nice side of my Ex and feel sorry for him when they see his tears. I get lonely too and just like you pour all my life into my children
xxx



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9wondersoftheworld
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | 9wondersoftheworld
Who wants to be shouted at?
What great food for thought, I too have lost it and shouted at my kidz, from now on when I feel like I may go off the deep end I will think of your article and start counting and taking those deep breaths


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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | nell18-3
Who wants to be shouted at?
Its so easy to just lose it when you are continually asking the same things!!!! Or their selective hearing kicks in big time.
My two boys have such fragile ego's at the moment this is why I noticed it in the first place. I make a point of never raising my voice to them and it is actually way more effective anyway. So we are all winners
xxx


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Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Kellzacar
Who Wants to be Shouted At?

Another Great article nell . . . . .

I too admit to losing control and yelling BUT like you i try my hardest NOT TO!

I find that talking to my children is preferable to yelling . . .  Now my 7yr old will come to me and say . . "hey mum can we talk" and i will listen and these days she usually comes and tells me when she has done wrong as she says she prefers the talks . . .

Cheers Kellz



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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | nell18-3
Who Wants to be Shouted At?
I know what its like to be on the receiving end of it
I never want to see my childrens eyes glaze over with fear by my actions like I have seen them do with their other parent
It makes me shudder
Its hard not to shout though sometimes when you are asking them to do or not to do something for the 20th time!!!!
xxx


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           Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Kellzacar
Who Wants to be Shouted At?

Hey Nell  .. . .  I solved the ask twnty times thing . . . Simple . .

I ask once . . .

I remind once

and then i casually walk over to the favourite toy etc and say "Gee thanks, looks like i have a new fried for ??days"

Gets my point across plus gets  the message across and now i usually only have to remind . . hehehehehehe

cheers Kellz

ps . . .did you know teens think their stereo's are like an extra heart . .  it seems they can't live without it that and their phones . . . lol



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                angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | angelmum
Who Wants to be Shouted At?
ooh I like that, Im going to try that one, having problems with my 3 yr old daughter and geez  her barbies seem very important to her at the moment, they might just be going on a little holiday in mums closet next time she hits her baby brother.... lol thanks for that little tip.... ahhh the things you learn on minti


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                     nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | nell18-3
Who Wants to be Shouted At?
Thats great Kellz
Especially the walking over casually LOL
Thats the way to react
Going to do this for sure
xxx


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dominicsmom
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | dominicsmom
thanks

thanks for the great article



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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | nell18-3
thanks
I'm glad you liked it
xxx


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           kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | kiarasmom2005
thanks

awe I want to cry. I have probably yelled at my little one a few times and each time she got sooooooo many more kisses after cuz I felt so horrible. I do remember too what it was like and that makes the guilt that much more worse. I hate that it has happened (only a few times) and for the most part I can feel it coming and take off but there were a couple of times that it came out of nowhere. Please dont judge this confession. I try hard to talk nicely too her more often times than yelling.

 



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                nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | nell18-3
thanks
I could never judge you!!!
Especially not for something I have done too
Its so easy to snap sometimes and regret it all later
Thanks for your comment
xxx


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                     lunaeclips5
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | lunaeclips5
What happened to me
Everytime i read this i do cry and it's because all of this happened to me, to the point that my father actually threw a dinner plate on the floor it spun out of control and bounced up like a fizz bie he threw it so hard. i seen it coming and protected my face from it and it sliced my right arm open from my elbow right up and around the top half of my  right arm just below my shoulder. I dont like wearing short sleaved tshirts anymore because everyone asks what happened. Dad didn't mean to hurt me thats why he threw the plate at the floor but he did hurt me more than he will ever realise. I just don't let him know it because it was a mistake that ended up in tradgity. I payed for his anger. But he is also paying with his guilt every time he sees it. Which kind of give me back a bit of saticfaction now nknowing he will always feel guilty for it. I know it's mean but i dont want him going to jail for a mistake because i do love him a lot for giving me a life. I'm just angry at him for being angry over fresh air. Hope this makes sence.


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                          nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | nell18-3
what happened to me
Makes perfect sense to me. I understand what you are saying
xxx


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