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Private school Kids and Public school kids...Our experience...

cookclan by cookclan Young Parent(March 2007) (rank 9th)
This is the thought behind this article...

"Children who go to a private school are better behaved and get a better education than kids who go to a public school"

I have never felt this way but over the last couple of weeks have realised that alot
of people do feel this way and I feel it is really wrong...What school your kids go to and how much money you have to put them in an expensive one does not make them a better behaved child or better educated at all...

Here is a bit of what has happened in the last couple of weeks....Michaela was attacked by a private school girl 2 of them actually on the bus..They pulled her hair out in a chunk and scratched her neck and took some skin off her fingers...Michaela has never been a fighter and is a real girly girl...She was devastated...When she got home I rang the other girls school and was greeted with a good response until the bus driver contacted them...The bus driver was the next port of call for me...Well the response I got there was one I was not ready for...His words to me were this girl has never caused any trouble before (mind you neither has my daughter) and maybe it was another of the other kids she mucks around with on the bus...The girl who hurt my daughter goes to a good school so he couldn't see that happening Hmmmm....

So here stood my daughter with scratches on her neck and arms and hands and this other girls had not a mark at all but the bus driver and the girls school felt that my daughter was to blame...It was never said outright but the suggestion was made that from experience the bus driver had found that when there is a fight between a private school person and a public school person then the public school one seemed to have started it....To say I was shocked and annoyed would be an understatement.....

You see this is my belief and I believe this whole heartedly...No matter what school you go to...No matter where... Kids will be kids and therefore there should be consequences when  something is done wrong private or public school...I also beleive that no matter how expensive the school is  kids will get the education they want to get...I think all parents should think along these lines...Sure if you want to send your child to a private school then do so but do not do this on the thought your child will get a better education than the kids in the public system...

To end this off I just want to say that this is a form of prejudice thinking that someone who goes to a private school is a better person than someone in a public school...My children regardless of what school they go should be treated with the same respect as a private school child is...These are jsut my thoughts on this subject...

So what do you think on this??

Have a great day
Cheers
Angie
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mumof1girl
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | mumof1girl
problems in schools

 

I totally agree. Kids will be kids, and it doesn't matter which one they go to. You will still get bullies in every school weather it's private or public. My daughter starts prep next year in term 2 and the kindy, junior and primary school's all have good communication with each other and don't tolerate bullying, and a bully is dealt with straight away.

I don't like what happened to your daughter, and i do hope she's alright now, and i don't like any form of bullying at all as i was always bullied at school and never liked it.



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MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MummaBear
I won't be going with Private or Public

My daughter starts Prep in 2009, she is already enrolled in a Catholic school. I agree with you that problems can be found in any school, but my reasons for sending her to a Catholic school are that I want her to have the Catholic morals instilled in her that I instill in her at home. It just gives her that bit of cosistency.

I went to a Catholic school and there were kids in my class who would drink, smoke, fight, just as there are in other schools.  There wasn't as much of it going on in my school but that's only because it was a small school who could dismiss students immediately if caught doing these things.

Private schools don't have the funding that the Catholic schools have and rely on the students who are enrolled and pay high fees to make money from.  Public schools don't always have the power to expell that nasty students.  The Private schools want to keep bums in seats to make more money particularly if the bad-eggs are from the richest families who bring in the most finances.  You find these students in all levels of society, but I think when it happens in an elite private school, it might be covered up a little bit better than other schools.

Last year a girl died after having a party where drugs were present.  The kids went to a private school, the most expensive and elite in North Qld.  They made a mistake, they lost a friend because of it.  But my point is, it happens in all schools. We just choose the school for our kids that we think they'd be better off at. A child with special needs would be better off at a public school because the Catholic and Private schools don't have the resources that the public schools have.

I think that probably the best type of education would be home schooling. Unfortunately I don't think I could afford that, I'd have to work full-time just to get the bills paid and then I'd have to try and fit in schooling her. Any rich men around who are willing to support me in staying home and home-schooling can come knocking on my door any day!



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mumof2b
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | mumof2b
Public v's Private
I agree completely that it depends on the child and their upbringing from home as to what sort of person they are and how well they go at school....... it doesn't matter if it's a Public School or a Private one. Morals come from home!!


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Rosa3
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Rosa3
Agree in some cases.
Sorry that your daughter was physically assaulted.  I would talk to the principle, teacher, the other girls parents and if need be to the police.  I do agree that behavioral problems will be found in public or private schools; however, I do believe that some private schools will have more educational opportunities than public schools depending where you live.  I have opted for my son to attend a private school K-8th grade.  I visited both public and private schools and asked all of the questions I could ask of the principle.  I observed the children at play.  I also spoke to the parents and teachers. I also requested statistical information from each school how many gradudate, what high schools they end up getting accepted to, what colleges their graduates attend etc.  I made an informed decision so in other words we just have to be involed in their school as well as listening to what our children have to say.  I am hoping that my son will have a good experience at this private school.  I plan on being involved right from the beginning.  I hope that your daughter can recover and move on with some kind of a positive outlook.  Maybe even driving her to school from now on if possible. 


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      cookclan
4.50 (Excellent) | March 2007 | cookclan
Agree in some cases.
The thin I am trying to say Is that I have learnt no matter how wonderful the school is private or public it all sepends on the indiviual child....No matter how wonderful the sdhool is private or public if a child wants to learn they will do it wherever they are....Thanks for your comment..
Cheers
Angie


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      Mandy460
3.00 (Average) | July 2007 | Mandy460
Re: Agree in some cases.
 I am with you on this one. I will also send my girls to a Private School. I went to a Catholic Primary and a Private College for high school. I also had cousins/friends in the local Public School. I think there can be a big difference. Kids will be kids and there are always exceptions to any rule, especially with behaviour and im sorry your daughter received that treatment. I think generally Private schools try to develop the child as we as educate. Morals, Manners, Social Etiquette are things i was taught as school as well as home. My friends at the Public school were not. Personally i think Social Behaviour is just as important. Our Teachers used to correct outrspeach if a student said 'free' instead of 'Three' they were corrected, this didnt happen at the Public Schools i had had experience with... I think this is a debate that could go on forever..


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Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Kellzacar
Private v's public

Hi ang . . . Sorry to hear about your daughter . . . . .That sort of behaviour is really not on by anyone . .  Big ((HUGS)) from me

Cheers Kellz



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emmysmum
4.50 (Excellent) | March 2007 | emmysmum
I think...
That you are completely right! I went to pvt and pblc and to be honest, the education at the public school was far more advanced than that of the pvt school....BECAUSE the pvt school focused more on the material things like don't walk on the grass, you have to where your hair like this, you have to have this coloured ribbon in your hair etc etc!
Sorry to hear also that michaela was hurt by those girls and get the blame too, i hope the girls end up getting the punishment they deserve....a swift kick up the a#$%


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      MummaBear
4.43 (Good) | April 2007 | MummaBear
I think...
I doubt they will be punished, but Karma doesn't know barriers. Karma bites the richest, most powerful people.  They'll get theirs in the end I'm sure of it.  Michaela will know she isn't to blame, they have the guilt of knowing what they've done wrong.


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lexiw
4.75 (Excellent) | March 2007 | lexiw
Public vs Private

I have had my children in both and it is not whether they are public or private but on the individual schools. One private school was the best school my children have ever been to while another was the worst and the same with public schools I believe that public schools are under funded and do not have the funding to access the same resources as private schools so this puts publics schools at a disadvantage but even then it is how that funding is spent and what resources are available.

Great article angie I agree with you 100%

 Lexi xxx



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nell18-3
4.73 (Excellent) | March 2007 | nell18-3
Public V Private
 I agree with you Angie
So sorry for your daughter to not only be assaulted but then to be blamed for it too???
What is going on??
Hugs from me
xxx


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sealsista72
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | sealsista72
I prefer public schools now.
I went to private school and so did my brothers and sisters.  We still got into the same amount of trouble and to tell you the truth, I would have rather have gone to a public school because I was "have not" in a school full of "haves".  I would get stirred because I didn't have the latest of everything.

My friend decided to send her children to private school as she thought they would have got a better education - she was sadly mistaken.  Her children were sent to a private catholic school, and her eldest son was treated like an outcast and a scapegoat for everything.  It didn't matter if he did it or not, he was the one that got blamed if he had anything to do with it, whether he was the victim or the accused.  Students as well as teachers treated him with disrespect and got away with it - so much for Catholic school!!! In the end my friend had enough and put them all in public school again and they couldn't be happier.

My children go to public school and they are all doing really well.  I have had issues, but I find that I can approach the majority of the teachers at the school without feeling uncomfortable.  I don't think my boys are any better or worse off going to public school.  For a while I felt bad because I couldn't afford private education, but the boys are so happy where they are, and that's all that matters.

I hope your daughter hasn't lost faith in telling the truth.  My son had an incident where he was blamed also 100% just because it was against a girl and "girls just don't do bad things like that"!!! After the incident, it took two years for him to prove to the principal of the school that he is not a troublemaker and that she was not entirely blameless.  I just stood up for him and told him that I believed him and I argued with the principal for about 45 minutes, but it was pointless.  We basically agreed to disagree.  I hope your daughter doesn't have any more problems.


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MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | MadMel
i agree
I went to an all girls public school and some other girls on the bus went to an all girls private school and they were the ones that would start trouble. Swear. Slut all over any guy that got on the bus... their skirts were basically minis! Throw things out the bus window. Yell at people on the street. It was really appauling.


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angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | angelmum
So True
I went to private school and hubby went to Public school, when we have shared stories of what we used to get up to, he has been shocked compared to what he did.  That doesn't mean its the same everywhere but in my experience there was no less drug use, no less alcohol use, no less bullying.  I think it depends a lot on the individual child what they get out of any school, some private are better then public and some public are better then private.  I was sent to private school because I was an out of control pre-teen and my parents thought it would be the best for me, ahhhh how wrong they were, I spent just as much time on detention as I probably would of at a public school. 


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blackwidowkate
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | blackwidowkate
private vs public
Hi
As you know Ang Megan went to a private girls school and got less of a education than in a public school.
The rules were ridiculous.  Their detentions were after school which is fine if you live near the school but when your child catches a bus home FOR A REASON then how are they supposed to get home...
The rampant lesbianism in the school was horrific.
I am not against same sex relationships in any shape or form but i do believe the same as i do with hetrosexual relationships certain things are for behind closed doors.
The counsellor said it was normal for my 13 yr old daughter to be emotional and experimenting with cutting....
She got her to where she would talk to the counsellor but not to me...what a joke...
They classed a C as a good pass....yeah like when
She has done way better in a public school apart from the boy crazy issues that most teenagers face
I would truly question putting my child in a private school again
Guess what...a lot are jsut as nasty as public school kids but have more money to cover it up and make it go away.
Yes there are good and bad in all systems and she still has some very nice friends.
My friend Robyn who has had her 2 daughters in private schools all their lives has had to pull both her daughters out of several private schools over the years due to behaviour that no child should do let alone get away with.
Her daughter is in counselling because of it now..  A group of boys urinated and cum in her school bag in front of her at school....the teachers said they wouldn't do that...they are good boys...your daughter is lying.....even with the proof in front of them  go figure...mummy and daddy paid for it to go away....
Luv Deb


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Libby24
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Libby24
Have to agree with you there.
I wanted my children to go to a private school as i went to a public one and felt that i had no chance there. I met my hubby who went to a private school and oh my gosh the stories he tells me of what they got up to and they did to others on the bus was un speakable to me. i was horrified. all that ever happened at my school was on occasions there might be a fight, by my hubby said every bay there was a fight not just guys as well. and the suicide rate of his year was high as well. 4 girls in 6 weeks. he tells me stories of how they would have contests of pulling the other guys buttons of their blazers and these blazers are $400 each. Also my in laws are teachers a private school and they cant even tell my son is autistic yet his teacher at a public school is doing everything she can to get Alex all the help he needs and can get. sorry but id rather pay the $45 a year to my son's school and put in to the p&c and all the other thing than pay thousands for them to go private.


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      cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | cookclan
Have to agree with you there.
In some families it is tradition...My brothers daughter will be attending the same school his wife did as she wants her to go there...And that is fine...The thougth behind the whole private school is a better education or private school kids are better behaved soo annoys me...Recently it was even actually said to me that kids who go to private schools DO NOT GET NITS hehehehehe I thought that was amusing....thanks for your comment mate....
Cheers
Angie


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           kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | kiarasmom2005
Have to agree with you there.

LMAO............makes you wanna plant some nits!!!LOL

I have been reading through these comments and OMG...........I went to public schools and I have never heard of that happening. All though I have heared that alot of christian schools are like that too because in canada I think you have to pay for it (this is just hearesay don't take it to heart please).

I have heared of both types of schools having each of their own stigmas........bratty public school kids,,,,,,,snotty bratty rich kids. I think there are pros and cons for each........

I am sorry to hear for your little girl ange.....I would raise hell and make it known to the school board...........I would take pictures and send them to the girls parents...maybe they don't know about this type of behavior.

And I would chew out the bus driver too and talk to his boss for that comment

loves and hugs hunny

 



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           blackwidowkate
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | blackwidowkate
Have to agree with you there.
Hi
Do so....Megan often had them when she was there

NITS DO NOT DISCRIMINATE
Luv Deb


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