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Febrile Convulsions

BrightonBelle by BrightonBelle Talking(May 2007) (rank 155th)
When I found my daughter fitting in bed, it really scared me. She had been feeling a little under the weather and was hot to the touch when I put her to bed so I said to the Hubby that I would keep an eye on her and check her once
she had fallen asleep.
After about an hour I heard her groaning, now she often talks in her sleep but this noise was a little disturbing so I went to check if she was ok, I opened her bedroom door and peered into the dark room towards her bed and noticed that she was shaking so I walked over and pulled back her duvet to see her with her eyes open and staring and her body rigid with her arms and legs in spasm, I knew straight away that she was fitting as my sister suffers from epilepsy and I had witness quite a few of her fits but to see your own child fitting was terrifying, I sat with her and just kept calling her.
 The Hubby had fallen asleep in front of the T.V but I didn't want to leave her in case she came too and I wasn't there so I called out for him but there was no reply so I sat and talked to her until the fit had finished and she responded to my voice, eventually the Hubby heard me calling and came to see what was wrong, I explained what had happened and he said we should call NHS Direct which I did while Hubby took her temperature (39.2) and reassured Amy that everything was ok,
I explained to the nursing advisor what had happened and he said we should give her some Calpol (Infant liquid paracetamol) and take her to A&E to get her checked out so we grabbed her bag which I always make sure is packed with everything that might be needed for an overnight stay (Hubby thought I was mad up until now) and drove to the childrens hospital which is only down the road.
We were seen immediately and they asked us to explain what had happened then gave her some infant Nurofen as her temperature was now over 40, stripped her down to her nappy and said we had to wait until her temperature had gone down, within an hour she was playing and back to her normal self as if nothing had happened so we saw the doctor again and they explained that she had had a febrile convulsion so I will share with you what they told us:

          Febrile Convulsions.
  • Febrile convulsions most commonly occur in children aged between 18 months and three years.
  • Febrile convulsions are rare in children under 6 months and over six years.
  • Any illness that causes a fever (high temperature) can cause febrile convulsions such as ear infections, coughs, colds, flu and other viral infections. Serious  infections such as kidney infection, pneumonia etc are less common causes.
         First aid for febrile convulsions.
  • Note the time it started so that you can see how long it lasts for.Place
  • Place child into the recovery position
  • Do not put anything in the childs mouth but do remove anything that may effect breathing such as vomit or food.
  • Do not shake the child
  • After the convulsion has stopped try to lower the child's temperature by removing clothes and giving some paracetamol or ibuprofen as soon as the child is able to swallow.
         Is it possible to prevent febrile convulsions?

        Logic would possibly suggest that keeping a child's temperature down during illness would prevent febrile convulsions, However there is little scientific proof that this is so. It is unclear what triggers the body to convulse. It is possible that they may be caused by a body chemical released during feverish illnesses.
It is good practice though to try to keep a child cool during an illness by following these steps:
  • Keep the child lightly dressed or take off all their clothes if the room is warm
  • Give paracetamol (Calpol) or ibuprofen
  • Give lots of cool drinks.
   Stastistics of recurrence
  • Only one convulsion happens in most cases
  • In 3 in 10 children who have a febrile convulsion, a second may occur in future feverish illness.
  • In less then 1 in 10 children who have  a febrile convulsion, three or more further convulsions occur in future feverish illnessesA future febrile convulsion is more likely if the first occurs in a child younger then 15 months, or if there is a family history of febrile convulsions in close relatives such as mother,father or siblings.
  • Once the child is 3 years old recurrence becomes less likely
Are febrile convulsions dangerous?
        A convulsion can be very alarming for those who witness them but febrile convulsions are not usually dangerous. A child will recover fully afterwards.
        However the child should be seen by a doctor afterwards to be checked over to rule out serious illness. An ambulance should be called if:
  • The child does not improve quickly after a convulsion
  • a convulsion lasts longer then five minutes
  • another convulsion happens directly after the first has stopped
  • the child has difficulty breathing
       Is treatment needed?
No treatment is usually needed for the convulsion itself if it stops within a few minutes, However treatment may be needed if the convulsion lasts longer. for example a doctor may put diazepam liquid into the rectum where it is absorbed quickly into the bloodstream and stops a convulsion.
Treatment may be given for the illness that has caused the high temperature.

      Does my child have epilepsy?
No, the cause of the febrile convulsion is related to the feverish illness and not brain abnormality. Epilepsy causes convulsions without fever.

I hope this information helps people to understand febrile convulsions and give guidance on what to do if you witness your child having a convulsion, although at the time it is very frightening, it is short lived without any lasting effects and I am glad to say that the day after her convulsion my daughter was her usual happy chatty self.
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divadarls
July 24th | divadarls
Re: Febrile Convulsions

my daughter woh is 6 and a half had 3 on wednesday first lasted 5-7 mins then 2 small ones that lasted 30secs. it took her 30mins to start talking after and that she doesnt remember what she was doing up until an hr before her fit. it is so scary as it happened at school in front of her school mates. this is the third time she has had them her first was when she was 2 and a bit then she had one just after she turned 3yrs. the hospital is looking into it further and sending her for an mri as she is over the age that they shud of stopped by now. the doctors have said that it is very very rare to have a fit after the age of 5yrs so hopefully they find out why and fingers crossed that she doesnt have any more. as they seem to be getting worse and longer and the fact that she doesnt remember what she was doing and at the time of the fit she was doing her music lesson with classmates scary stuff though



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rcp-432
December 2008 | rcp-432
Re: Febrile Convulsions

excellent article/advice

three out of four of my children have had this and it is a scary thing to witness



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pavementcracks70
June 2008 | pavementcracks70
Re: Febrile Convulsions

excellent advice and information that gives light to febrile convulsions...great depth yet easy to read...good work, rue



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lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | November 2007 | lexiw
Re: Febrile Convulsions

Very informative and extremely well written Thank you for sharing this with us.

 Lexi xxx



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ellamia
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | ellamia
Re: Febrile Convulsions
Great article, Well said and well set out.

thank you

Love kell


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janicepovey
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | janicepovey
Re: Febrile Convulsions

Excellent advice, very informative and set out well. This should be very helpful for many mum's. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers Janice



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llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | llmunchkin
Re: Febrile Convulsions
Great advice, I often read that a high fever can cause them, however I really wasn't sure what was involved - thanks.


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Libby24
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | Libby24
scary stuff
great advise.


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cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | cookclan
Scary things they are

My eldest had one once and and I thought he was dying....I was terrified....Thanks for sharing this glad she was okay

Cheers

Angie



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MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | MadMel
Fitting
It is so scary! My son fitted once not long ago. I also wrote advice on it. Its so scary and reading yours just brought back all those memories lol
Well written. Glad shes ok now


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Deborahsc2203
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | Deborahsc2203
very scarey to watch

my son has had two of these already , the first lasting ten min after that he was shaking for about two hours with cold cause of his hight temp and was very tied afterwoods ,, the second one was only two weeks later , this one was bad as he wouldnt come out of his fit he had meds up his backside  by the doc and an injection but it wouldnt work to bring him out of his fit ,i was suprised how calm i was as everyone in the medical centre panicked arround us,, i had to be the docs nurse this time .. my son started to turn blue i watched at first his feet go blue and then his fingers and mouth ,( not recomended to put your fingers in anyones mouth when they are fitting cause they can bite  it off ,,, but my doc and i had to do this cause he was turning blue and we had to have an airway clear ( he was close to biteing my doctors fingers off and then mine ,,, , as calm as i was it was very scarey to witness , the ambulance came and they also couldnt get him out of his fit and this was half an hour later ,, they where also trying to make sure his airway was clear to put a tube down for his breathing , i live 15 min away from the hospital but it took about an hour to get there because they kept having to stop getting drips in etc,,

once at the hospital his heart rate was soo high they thought he was going to have a heart attack

his fit lasted for about two hours .

after he stopped fitting he was unconcious till 11.30 pm . his fit started at 3pm ..

he gets fevers every two to three weeks without fail they seem to think its becasue of his toncils but they will not take them out yet..

I found out that there is a  history of febrile convulsions in my family ,, i didnt know this before as my other children never had this ,,

the only thing we do at home every time he gets his fevers is we give him panadole then 3 hours later nurofen ,, that seemed to be the only way to be able to controll his fevers as well as tempid baths etc,,

he hasnt had one since , his fever jumped from 37.00 to 40. 3 in a matter of seconds

so giving him the meds every three hours and we have kept ontop of this when he has them ,,,

eg.. he had panadole at 12pm then at 6pm he will have the next dose ,,

but in between he will have the nurofen at 3pm then at 9pm

with the doctors advice

it hasnt affected him at all but keeping in mind they fit also because the temps so high for them to handle , and had to be closely watched at all times . he has to be in my bed with me once i see the signs . im a very light sleeper when this happends ( the fevers) I also notice that he breaths alot faster and makes little noises in his sleep ..

we know that he will be getting his fevers the day before now as by the signs he shows ,, off his food acts strangely wingers etc,, and he drinks a alot of water

children have to be taken to the hospital when this happends to make sure that everything is ok .

great article and one to be read by all parents ...

the recovery possition is a must ...

 



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sinhob
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | sinhob
Febrile Convulsions

Brilliant article, BrightonBelle! Thank you so much for putting it together in such an easy to understand way.

I suffered from febrile convulsions as a baby, having three in total under the age of 15 months. I was always concerned my own children would have them so made sure I would know what to do in the event. Fortunately this has never happened, to date!

One of my children seems to have inherited my tendency for very high temperatures and our GP advised us it was safe to give both paracetamol and ibuprofen together to bring the temperature down quickly. (Be careful with ibuprofen as it can irritate the stomach lining so, if possible, the child should have a little milk with it, although obviously never whilst fitting.)

I would recommend every parent print this article and stick it on the inside of their medicine cupboard or somewhere that it will be seen and read regularly! 5*



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      BrightonBelle
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | BrightonBelle
Ibuprofen + Milk.
Thank you for the tip on ibuprofen, I will definately remember to give milk afterwards. Would you mind if I added that to the advice article???


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