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My big boy at 18mths - severe eczema
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My big boy at 3 years - stress caused him to scratch and his eczema got much worse.
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Delayed vaxxing - Our story

mcm by mcm Young Parent(June 2007) (rank 3rd)
Is vaccinating neccessary?

In Australia we have an immunisation schedule. Its  free and its expected that you keep your child up to date.

I never had an issue with having my first child immunised. We had a wonderful maternal nurse who made sure she was up
to date. My girl didn't like having needles and still has bad memories of needles. That wasn't reason enough for me to not get the needles done though.

 When I had my second child I again had my son immunised as per the schedule. This time we lived in a different area so had to get it done by a group of nurses through the council. That was fine and I didn't give it a second thought. I just assumed you could trust them to know best. When my big boy was due for his needles at 12 months, they told me the schedule changed slightly so that they were given several shots and they wouldn't need any more til he turned 4.

Why did we choose not to have our youngest immunised?

The day my elder son had his immunisations at 12 months his face went red. I assumed it was normal, just a reaction to the needles. But 2 weeks later his face was even more red and my daughter's kingergarten teacher said  "Is the redness still there?" It started to get itchy and my boy scratched a lot. By the time he was 2 years old, he was scratching himself til he bled especially at night.

My big boy is now 4 and I would  consider the eczema to be mild. But for almost 3 years previously it was awful in so many ways. I hated that my little boy had to suffer. Steroids didn't work. Even moisturisers and Sorbolene aggravated the condition.

I can't say that the vaccinations caused the health problems my son has. But they most certainly triggered the eczema. He has acute asthma and allergies to certain foods as well. There is most definitely a link.

So when I was pregnant with my last child, we agreed it wasn't necessary to immunise our new baby. We didn't want to risk it and we didn't want to put another child through what our eldest son went through if we had the choice. People say 'but what about these serious diseases?' 'Why risk that?' Some of these diseases are very rare and I am not interested in 'just in case' theories. I am more worried of what is more likely to happen if my youngest son does have the needles.I have weighed it up and being a breastfeeder and also being at home a lot the risk of these diseases is low. I call it delayed vaxxing. I could change my mind. But for now I am happily enjoying my baby's good health. He is 19 months now and apart from mild eczema he is one healthy child and still breastfeeding.

My big boy is due for his 4 year old needles and I am not sure about it, so rather not at the moment. His eczema is under control and I really don't want to jeopardise that. I want him to attend Kinder later in the year. To start there and also at school his immunisation must be up to date, otherwise a form must be signed by a doctor to say you know the risks of not vaxxing.

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yummymummyof3
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | yummymummyof3
Re: Delayed vaxxing - Our story
I completely understand how you feel, I'm sure any of us would if we were in your shoes, all my kids are vaxed but I refuse to have them done unless they are at their healthiest.  x


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cheekymonkey
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | cheekymonkey
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Luckilt Grub has not had any reactions to his vac's. But my mum suffers from both eczema and bad psoarisis as a result of childhood vaccinations. Because of the reaction she suffered, she refused to let us kids have any vac's until 12mo and then only on e at a time.


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MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | MummaBear
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I decided not to get the chicken pox one done, as chicken pox isn't likely to kill a child.  Very rarely is it fatal.  The fact that my daughter goes to childcare, I'm glad she has had her needles.  We had a vegan child at our centre and she had to pay the full fees as she didn't get her vaccinated at all, not one of his needles was done as she believed in everything taking its course naturally.  I found it very hard to swallow that someone with such strong beliefs in letting things be natural would have her child in daycare at all.  The thing that scares me the most is meningacoccal.  It's a killer and there's no way I would want to risk it.  I weighed up the pros and cons also and decided vaccinating was the way to go.  The reason these diseases are so rare these days is BECAUSE we vaccinate against them.  Oh well, we all do what's best.


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      cheleinkal
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | cheleinkal
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here Here.


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wolonfab
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | wolonfab
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i too have had to weight the odds as so many people believe my son has Autism cause he had a vaccine at 18mths...... I have to say i am not a real believer of that but this is my opinion and no one elses......... My son is autistic cause he was meant to be this way...he was meant to feel and think the way he does.....

I would rather have my children safe from any nasties..... My old boss had polio and couldnt walk well as a result (had to use a cane and a walker)..... I have seen kids with bad scars from chicken poxs and measles.....

I understand that it would be scary to be in the situation you found urself in and i in your situation may have made the same decision ...i dont know .... I do know my kids have asthma, they have allergies, my daughter has eczema from dairy and wheat....maybe its brought on by immunisations but theres not enough info for mt to be for or against.....

Good on you for doing whats best for your family and hugs


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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | MummaBear
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My cousin's son (I call him my nephew) is Autistic.  I'm a believer in "These children are the way they were meant to be. They were created to teach the rest of us something" and I'll believe that forever.  I love him to death and he sure has taught me and my whole family a few things.  I agree with you there.


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           wolonfab
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | wolonfab
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Exactly ...i am so glad that someone else agrees... I dont want my son cured cause he opens my eyes up to so many things i didnt know.... he is my teacher a lot of the time....

they make our life and our world a better place to be
Hugs


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                mcm
June 2007 | mcm
Re: Delayed vaxxing - Our story

I don't feel that vaxxing can cause anything to happen though it may help trigger it. Some things you just can't pinpoint.

MMR are not serious diseases to me and think I can avoid those immunisations. Also the fact that they use an aborted foetus to make the Rubella vaccine does concern me greatly in an ethical way.

I also believe the Government isn't free in its information on vaccines and that upsets me. My son has been diagnosed with anaphalxis. One of the triggers I worry about most is egg. They still DO use egg in the production of vaccines. And even more scary in the influenza shot - bird flu is a concern.


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                cheleinkal
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | cheleinkal
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You're Ace!!! hugs and kisses to you and yours. xo


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cheleinkal
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | cheleinkal
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I have a girlfriend who stressed me out with faulse (it turns out) information about Australia still having mercury in our immunisations (did once don't now as it turns out), I had undiagnosed PND at the time, was having trouble breast feeding and it was the last thing I needed or wanted to hear.  We decided to go with immunisations mainly because I was more afraid of Polio, menegitusm etc. than the low percentage of side effects, and I have faith (may be niavely) in our Govt. and the people who pass drugs for approval for public use....you have to.  I can understand you have a once bitten twice shy attitude & who knows in the same position I may have felt the same, I can't say, how ever I think a child with a skin irritation beats a dead or physically maimed for life child hands down.  It's all a matter of perspective and on this one we are not looking at it from the same perspective and there for are going to ahev to agree to disagree.  Did you see the GP after the rash first apeared??  What did he say & do about it?  Was it listed in the possible side effects sheet they give you when they get jabbed?  Just curious.


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      mcm
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | mcm
Re: Delayed vaxxing - Our story
Our GP diagnosed our son with eczema soon after. As I said he had a red rash initially after the 12mth needles. I just assumed it was a reaction but started to worry after 2 weeks. The doctor gave us many many prescriptions for different steroids for different areas of the body and face as well as medication because of the infections. We saw specialists and other doctors who didn't seem to have the time for us. It wasn't until he was hospitalised for pneumonia and diagnosed with asthma that we had a new doctor who helped us. She actually taught us more about how eczema works and the treatments. She also was interested in getting it under control and finding the triggers. We then found out his allergies and we have worked from there. Yes he is a sickly child so his immume system already seems to be compromised.

I certainly do not want another child with severe eczema. :( My bub has mild eczema and I do what I can to make sure it doesn't get worse.
Its something I have weighed up and I do not feel comfortable risking it. Its more than a skin irritation. It was literally a nightmare. Our doctor said he was at high risk of bone infections which is very serious. We also had a friend who lost their son when the eczema entered his brain through his eyes. Its more likely to happen within our family than these other diseases so I have chosen not to have the immunisations at this time. I could change my mind depending on the situation. So I understand for others vaxxing is essential. For us its not. I want people not to be scared and think that all kids will suffer as my child did, but that parents should make informed decisions and if they feel in doubt to feel sure about it. Which is why I say we are delaying the vaccinations. Maybe later especially with future children I will be more selective as I gain more knowledge about each vaccinations and the risks.


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           cheleinkal
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | cheleinkal
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Fair enough for you to react the way you have ,  Thanks for answering my questions...The eczema going into the brain and killing you through the eyes...oh my Goodness, I have never heard of that I had no idea eczema was deadly..................sheesh, that is a bit scarier isn't it.  Thanks again.


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llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | llmunchkin
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It is a big decision isn't it...  I can't say that I am 100% confident either way, however for day care etc. Jay has to be up to date with his schedule, and so far so good - we haven't had any problems at all.  I do feel very lucky about it though, and watch him very closely after his shots.  Our council does them for free for us too - we go early in the morning so that I can watch him all day. 


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Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Kellzacar
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My little angel now 1 had a severe reaction to her needles when she was 4 months old . .  Her  reaction was so bad that she needed to be revived by having CPR. . .

My husband and I struggled over to whether or not to let her have any more needles - We did. Last week my angel went into hospital ofr 1 day to have her needles and she was monitored by the Doctors in case of a reaction. Luckily there was none and we were able to take her home with no problems.

It sounds to me as if your sons reaction should have been treated at the time . . . Things have changed a great deal in the past few months in relation to needles . .  Perhaps you should speak to your GP about it.

Cheers Kellz


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Ngairi
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Ngairi
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I can see how you are feeling with this issue. I have had all my kids immunised and have been lucky they have had no reactions to any of them. A friend of mine's children have egg allergies and as a result had to delay the MMR vaccine. When they had to have it, it was administered in hospital with equipment standing by just in case.

Leisa



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