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my mothers abortion (pro life)

mummyofbabydylanxo by mummyofbabydylanxo Talking(July 2007) (rank 145th)

i know this will be offending people and Im sorry but my title says pro life so that shows im against abortion, my mothers testmoniy and my friends who have had abortions regret it esp when they see what actually happens, sorry to offened, i dont care if it has no votes... its an issue that scars my mothers life and a diferent persective of what some mothers go through...

 

In 1984, while I was living with the man I thought I was about to marry, I discovered that he had had an affair with another woman. I decided that if it was good enough for him it was good enough for me so I also went off and had sex with someone else.


However, unlike his affair, mine eventuated in the woman, me, becoming pregnant. When my boyfriend found this out he made it quite plain that either I got rid of the problem or our relationship was over. I was pretty certain that my own doctor would never agree to referring me for an abortion (on what grounds?), so, in an effort to save my relationship, I contacted a girlfriend in Auckland who knew a doctor who would.


So, on August 3rd 1984, at the age of 23, I arrived at the Epsom abortion clinic. I was seen by a lady counselor who spoke to me at length to ascertain why I wanted the abortion. I told her the truth. That wasn't good enough and legally was not grounds for allowing an abortion. This counselor then did her best to convince me that to continue the pregnancy would be both detrimental to my life and to my mental well being. (There was no mention of any other course to be taken than aborting the baby. No talk of adoption or help and government support after the birth).


As best as I can remember, the counseling session took between twenty minutes and half an hour as the lady had a big job convincing me that if the pregnancy (or 'problem' as she would say) continued I would eventually get to a state where suicide would be considered.


I knew in myself that this pregnancy would not affect me in the ways she was saying as I already had a 5 year old child living with me, but as there was no other way, I eventually agreed with her and signed the papers.


Once I had signed those papers I was taken into another room and prepared for the 'termination'. I was given a gown to wear and remember drinking a solution of some sort but cannot recall exactly what it was. An older nurse came and saw me and explained what would happen next. I was then taken through to an operating theatre where I met a masked doctor and masked nurse.


The doctor gave me a local anesthetic and explained again the procedure I would go through, noting that I would feel a small amount of pain and a pulling sensation as he “cleaned out my uterus”.


The pain was so intense I started to cry. The doctor growled at me and continued with the procedure. I could hear a sucking noise and the noise of what sounded like an industrial vacuum cleaner. Inside, I felt an incredible pulling or tearing sensation.


I could hear also the noise of something hitting the inside of the machine (as you hear when larger items are sucked up by a vacuum cleaner). That noise haunted me for years.


When the 'procedure' was finished I was then taken into a large room where there were already about a half dozen other women in beds but, because I was sobbing hysterically, they removed me to a private room where I was severely reprimanded by an older nurse - a really hard, gruff woman - for making such a fuss.


About an hour and a half later I was given some panadol for the pain and asked to dress and leave. I then waited outside for my girlfriend to return and pick me up.


I felt ashamed and terribly alone as I sat with my back against a fence trying to block out what I had just done. Interestingly, at this stage I still didn't feel like I had just killed my baby so I was unsure as to why I was reacting this way. After all, it was just an abortion.


I returned home to find that the relationship was over anyway.


Before all this happened I had been a social drinker but soon became a heavy drinker and lost all confidence in myself I could not go anywhere socially without having bolstered myself with alcohol.


It wasn't until I gave birth to my second beautiful daughter Lauren in 1988 that it fully hit me that I had in fact killed a baby. My baby. This caused me to start a grieving process that continued for many, many years. This did not change until I recommitted my life to the Lord at the age of 30. Even then, I still continued to grieve and brought the death (murder) before The Lord in prayer, constantly asking God to forgive me as I felt there was no way He could possibly forgive someone who had murdered their baby.


It wasn't until I was told off by a good friend that a change occurred. She asked whether Jesus was not big enough to have taken that sin also onto the cross along with all my other sins and showed me the verse in 1 John 1:9 that says that “if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”


In acknowledging this and confessing and praying to God and asking Him to forgive me, the healing process was truly able to begin.


As I was praying and confessing these things to The Lord and asking where my baby was, was it just bits and pieces down a drain somewhere or was it somewhere else. I felt Him say to me “David is with Me.” (I had not named nor even knew the sex of my baby). Today, 21 years later, I am still certain that this was The Lord speaking to me. It brought an immediate sense of peace and I felt an intense weight had been removed from my shoulders.


Because I believed that the Christian society would neither be accepting or understanding of what I had done, I didn't speak of the abortion again until I confessed it to my husband to be on the day he proposed to me. Before replying to his question, I felt I had to tell Rob what had happened. He was neither disgusted nor condemning as I thought would (should?) be, but accepted that this was part of my past and would now be part of his life too (After all, as he said, he had already accepted the fact that he was marrying a solo mother who had obviously not led “a pure and chaste life”.)


I still think of David, but not as often as I used to - which was daily for many years - usually around August each year or if when I meet young people who would have been his age. Also any time the subject of abortion is brought up. Next to seeing Jesus face to face, one of the greatest things I look forward to in Heaven is to see my child and to hold him in my arms.


Sharon


http://www.prolife.com/


 

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anniebabe
July 4th | anniebabe
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)

thank you for sharing

annie



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KellysBabies
November 2007 | KellysBabies
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)

OMG This is so heart touching, i mean WOW i actually had tingles as i was reading this. 

Thank you for sharing this. :)



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Arna
November 2007 | Arna
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)
I myself am pro choice, but it would have to be severe circumstances before I would have an abortion.  I love my kids and would be happy to have more, but should the pregnancy be dangerous for me, my choice would to be abort and look after the children I already have.

I don't agree with women who use it as birth control.  They did the deed and most likely new the risks.  they are the selfish ones.  Your story shows a young lady who was emotionally black mailed into it, and that was unfair.  those that are given all the facts and options are better informed about their choice, and these days often have on going support too.

Thanks for sharing.  It must have been hard for your mother to go through this, let alone retell it.  That is the mark of someone who is strong, even though it really troubled her.


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winniesanders
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | winniesanders
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I am not a Christian,but my gran who was, always believed that God would judge the judgementors more harshly than the sinner. I would no more judge you than you hopefully would judge others. I beieve in her values and would hope that if a choice turned out to the wrong one that those around would support and help me through. Thank you for sharing such a harrowing story. However choices must always be individual, you it seems were denied the time to make the choice. Luv and hugs.Best wishes winnie.


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Hysteria
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | Hysteria
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For some people its the right thing. People are so different, you never know if its something they can handle or not.

im 20weeks pregnant. and i am already in love with this little man inside me. but, i also know if for a certin reason, this child wasnt brought into existance with love, or with my choice. i would considor abortion.
unless im in the situation, i wont know if i would do it or not. but i know i would considor it
((dont think bub likes this :P rolling around inside me))


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lexiw
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | lexiw
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)

Thanks for sharing your experience

 Lexi xxx



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sunflowermom
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | sunflowermom
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Being a young mother myself. I do understand how hard it is to be a mother and the whole thought of motherhood. I pondered the idea of adoption when I found out I was pregnant with my oldest. Keeping her was the right choice for me.  There are women out there that have made the desicion to have an aboration for their own reasons good or bad. I dont like to judge people. I feel it is their desicion not ours for them.  This is a sad subject all the way around.  I am very much prolife, because I believe that once the egg is fertilzed it is now a living baby. But thats me not everyone....


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MummaBear
3.88 (Good) | July 2007 | MummaBear
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  Although I don't particularly agree with the over use of abortions, I would HATE to see the abortion clinics shut down.  I have been exposed to lots of things, my life hasn't been sheltered as my mother felt we should have a good feel of the world we live in.

One lady from  my home town fell pregnant at 14.  This is going back many many years now and there were no abortion clinics anywhere near us.  She and her boyfriend punched her stomach and then used a coathanger to rid her body of that baby.  She suffered many infections from this and nearly died from it.  She also was never able to carry a baby as she had destroyed her insides with the coathanger.  She adopted a child when she was around 30 and was only ever able to adopt one baby even though her dream was always to have 2 children.  Her dream of having any of her own was taken away when she was still at an age of playing with Barbie Dolls, she just didn't realise it yet.

Another lady was gang raped.  She fell pregnant and kept the baby.  He ended up being abused, taken off her then given back to her, told from day dot that he was the result of rape and his father was a useless rapist and he's useless too.  The child killed himself at the age of 13 after years of torment and abuse from his mother.

Another story is still close to my heart.  A baby was conceived out of love, a wanted child, but at 28 weeks the doctors said he won't develop his lungs and he won't survive outside the womb.  They could induce labor now or go on with the pregnancy.  A choice was made to go on with the pregnancy as this mother decided that being a mother meant keeping your babies alive for as long as possible.  The baby was born, fed from his mother's breast while being held by his mother and stroked by his father.  He died at the breast.

These are all very different stories.  I'm not for abortions myself however I think there are cases where it is necessary and this is the reason I feel even though I'm not for abortions I would be in the fight to keep abortion clinics open if they looked like shutting down.  I know it sounds like I'm contradicting myself, but I do know people who use them as a contraceptive.  One woman I know had 4 abortions in as many years and now can't have children of her own.  She can fall pregnant at the drop of the hat but can't carry them and it ends in miscarriage.  Very sad to think this woman has been pregnant 9 times and hasn't got a child to show for it.  Then there are the 2 stories above where an abortion clinic would have been best.



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OzBinky
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | OzBinky
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WOW! What a terrible experience you mother went through....

I don't agree abortions when they are used as a form of contraception, however, I do believe in the rights for women to chose and for this choice be allowed without any discrimination or pre-judging from others. Just as I believe in the rights for all to have an opinion and without being judged...

Like you know, life is far from black and white. I fell pregnant at a young age and had many people try to convince me that I should have an abortion, something I am thankful that I didn't have. My  choice was a good one, one I haven't regretted and one which was 'right for me'.

I also know of a story about a girl who fell pregnant just after I had my first child, she didn't want the baby but was talked out of having an abortion by her family and was talked into adopting the baby out rather than terminating. When she got to the 7th month - she began to have second thoughts about giving up her child, when she had the baby - she refused to give the child up and decided to keep him.

Happy ending right?

Wrong.....it was so far from happy....

She got home and everything seemed well and good to begin with....except she couldn't handle the baby...she couldn't handle the crying, the work, the feeding and everything else that comes with parenthood...

Family and friends are only as supportive as they think the support is needed. Everyone thought she was doing well - no one saw that she was hating motherhood....why would they, she seemed to be doing so well, she seemed to be loving the new role as mother.....

It wasn't until they buried the baby that anyone got that she wasn't doing well at all and that she wasn't coping...

The baby died at 51/2 months old of internal bleeding. The child had several broken bones and head trauma. She had beaten the child to death.....

Long story short.....the one part of this story that haunts me to this very day is last thing this girl said in court and which was directed to her family....."Why did you talk me out of aborting"

It so easy for someone to say 'adopt the child out', its so easy for people to make this choice based on - 'if it was me - I would do....' or even based on morals and personal experience.....but when you are carrying a child, you more often than not, carry a bond which takes over you - and as each month passes, this bond grows more and more.....and with this carrying the baby and this growing bond....well, the chance of keeping the baby over adopting it....man, that must change so often....and for most, it is more than likely a change of mind that people never regret.....there are also those who do live to regret it....

Its easy to say, 'if you don't want kids don't have sex or have safe sex' - People still fall pregnant even despite being  on contraception - People have sex and despite the promises, vows and oaths made about not doing it until married or whatever.....

What ever the reason, its a choice that is up to the individual. Ok, it's not the greatest of choices and we have the moral debates, religious perspectives and individual beliefs about it being right or wrong.....but when you consider the options from years ago that women had.....that being - NO CHOICE, NO RIGHTS - NO VOICE....and backyard abortions were the only way to go, the only choice that was given, besides having the child that is....well, I have to admit, I'm pleased this day and age offers women the choice. I'm glad that this choice is around to prevent other women going through what that one woman and her baby went through....

Although the choice I made, regarding keeping my first child, was one that worked for me.....I was also faced with another situation where I would have aborted the pregnancy in a heartbeat....no second thoughts or doubts - I would have terminated. Thankfully, it turned out that I wasn't pregnant.....

I wasn't raped, I wasn't sick.....I wasn't on contraception and I wasn't drunk.....but there were circumstances which made the choice of terminating an option for me and ones which I'm not prepared to write about.

Like I said at the beginning - I don't agree with abortions used as a form of contraception - however - I do agree with women having a choice as there are many situations that can force the option....

Cheers
OB


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      mumof2b
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | mumof2b
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WOW........so perfectly said OB!!!  No-one ever knows what it's like until they have been in the situation and even then you don't know what someone else is going through......

Amanda



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      llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | llmunchkin
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)
Well that is an amazing, terrible story, however worth sharing!  Good to see you back OB!


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      sebcanatalay
August 2007 | sebcanatalay
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)

This is right that you mentioned. Abortion should not used as contraception. But you're again right everybody should have their own solution



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MumKim
4.26 (Good) | July 2007 | MumKim
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)
I don't really think that articles about abortion belong on Minti in advice. I have given this one star. It will upset some people. Not everything is black and white. Some people require abortions for medical reasons, others for other reasons. This is a parenting site -please consider your audience.
I suggest that you consider moving this to your blog.

I  respect your right to your opinion in your blog-( with warnings before potentially upsetting material). I have been quite outspoken about freedom of speech in blogs Minti.


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      llmunchkin
2.85 (Average) | July 2007 | llmunchkin
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)
Well the edit has improved it for sure, I wasn't quite sure how to take that whole Satan thing, and I really found it a bit scary, and slightly offensive.

Here are some other areas that this 'advice' might be more appropriately posted in Group blogs, where people who are seeking information on certain topics look.

Christians
Abortions
religious debates

By the way, a reminder to everyone in general, just because someone posts information on a 'heated' topic, there is no need to use it as an excuse to jump on your soapbox and accuse people of being judgemental.  Telling on others is merely telling on yourself.


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mummyofbabydylanxo
2.85 (Average) | July 2007 | mummyofbabydylanxo
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lol, its my mothers testimony that I took from her and now have taken the bit in the out about her beleifs, but if you had looked with your eyes and seen that i had written says i know this will be offending people and Im sorry but my title says pro life so that shows im against abortion,  doesnt that mean when you look at it that it means one sided opionon?...again i dont see how im conflicted?.... its a PRO LIFE mothers abortion so if u cant understand the title go get a dictionary... the advice is just to show that abortion is no way a promblem to just get rid of...and yes one sided but so are some other advices, so get off mine...


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      jenaya04
4.71 (Excellent) | July 2007 | jenaya04
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As I said, this type of topic regardless of your intentions be it good or bad, will always end in a heated debate amongst members. People have their opinions as you do and feel just as passionate about it as you do. Its a no win situation. No matter how much you might yell pro-life, others will yell pro-choice. Neither party is right or wrong. Its just simply an area where members should maybe steer clear of - we have all read it in the recent months, it keeps coming up as advice or questions and ends the same way..with people getting offended. Now, to give you some TWO sided advice or shall I say comment...I personally could not go thru with an abortion, I know that in my heart BUT, i also would never condem others right to choose whats right for them. As for offending me...nup, Im not offended (well, except for the dictionary comment..bit juvenile maybe) There is nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree now is there....


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jenaya04
4.35 (Good) | July 2007 | jenaya04
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HI there

Your second to last paragraph 'speak out to others about it", I am presuming this is what todays mission is all about. In my opinion, I feel as though you are giving us a very one sided article. I dont believe this can actually help anyone here as to be of help, we must offer both sides to the story and give a balanced opinion. Im sure only those who are pro-life would disagree. As for the religious aspect....well I think that should be kept in your blog where no one will feel as though u could be ramming "gods work" down anyones throat. If it is in your blog then its up to the individual wether they choose to go to your homepage. As for my opinion on abortion, well how about we let sleeping dogs lie...it seems that whenever these types of debates come up ie. abortion, smoking, smacking our kids,..even with the best intentions from the author, it inevitably ends in members being deleted or reported. Maybe just let it go...spread your pro-life words (or gods words) in your blog where only those wanting to, will have to read it.

Have a nice day!



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bleshu
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | bleshu
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)

Wow!  What a horror story!  I truly feel for you and what you went through.  You asked for other abortion stories, well, here's mine.  I've had 2!  Yep that's right...2!  I was stupid at 16 and fell pregnant to my home towns biggest criminal whilst I was living with his family.  He told me that I had to have an abortion because he didnt want so like a good little girl I did as I was told.  I have to say THANK GOD!  Yep, I thank your god that he had the good sense to not bring a child into our already messed up life.  I can say with 100% certainty that I did the right thing for me at the time.  This poor baby would not have had a hope in hell of any kind of decent life.  And no I couldnt go through with the pregnancy and give it away, that is something that would have haunted me day in day out. 

A few yrs later I ended up having a baby to my abusive boyfriend and had to get my parents to help me flee the house.  I was a single mother at 19 with nothing.  I lived with my parents for a few yrs then moved out on my own. 

When my son was 4 I fell pregnant again.  The decision to terminate this time was one of the hardest decisions I have ever made.  But I made it for my son.  The relationship with the new baby's father did not work out and we had broken up a few weeks earlier so I would be on my own with 2 children.  I was struggling with the 1 I already had.  I also knew that girls with kids to different fathers were not highly likely to find a good man to love them.  They would all be to scared you would get pregnant to them, not to mention how they would think of a girl with all these kids.  So I made the decision to terminate based on the fact that my 1st son would have a better shot at life and a proper family if it were just the 2 of us.

I have to say that, yes, the procedure was horrible to go through, although my procedure was nothing like yours, I couldnt feel or hear a thing, but I dont for one minute regret what I did.  I dont want to put you or your experience down.... it was YOUR experience.  But I feel the need to shed some light on the success story's for those who read your article and are now petrified of going through with their own termination.  I know alot of girls who have had atleast one abortion and are grateful that we have that service in Australia.



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      samantha
3.60 (Good) | July 2007 | samantha
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thanks for shareing. yeh everyones experience is difference and yours was one that worked out for the best, and even though ti was hard for you it was the best thing you caoul do for you and your son. i personally was presured into it (not by my boyfrined) but by older women ect who told me it would reck my life and just the overal experience was horrid. i also find it hard as i am still with my boyfriend from 10 years ago (who is now my husband) so i feel like i murdered a member of my family so it was doen in vain. i do not judge people who have had them as everone has there own unike personal reasons.



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samantha
3.10 (Average) | July 2007 | samantha
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this is something that only someone who has had an abortion would understand. i felt the same way after i had an abortion. there are times i feel upset about it, and now that there has been so much spoke about it lately those feeling have resurfaced. abortion is such a horrific thing in my opinion. 

i feel this advice is good in helping other pregnant women who are considering an abortion. i know that if i was on a parenting sight like this when i first fell pregnant it would have made all the difference. thankyou for shareing your story, it was very coragous of you to open yourself up like this to persicution, there are alot of judgmental comments here but just so you know we are not all bad



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      samantha
3.08 (Average) | July 2007 | samantha
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and to all those who feel THERE being attached!! i've had an abortion and that girl in that link that was crying THAT WAS ME!! i was lying there crying like that and they didn't care. i locked myself in a room and didn't eat for 3 days, my boyfriend (whos now my husband)also was upset and he tried to help me as much as he could but i will never forget that horrible day NEVER so don't go judging peoples beliefs or the things they have suffered! this has really upset me all this talk about it but its a real life matter. i feel VERY strongly against abortion. i have noticed a friend of mine who is against abortion is now saying otherwise, stop being so crowd pleasing!! what are you scared of? no one likeing you?


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           RebeccaDorant
4.96 (Excellent) | July 2007 | RebeccaDorant
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not sure if this is to me or not but if it is i am so sorry mate (i will minti mail you this too just so you will definatly read it). i never said i was pro abortion just pro choice. abortion is not for me either and we have talked about that outside of minti but i believe woman should still have the choice to do it in a safe environment instead of at home in dangerous way. be it for medical reasons or psychological ones. i have never been through what you have and the fact that you have such a beautiful and trully happy family says alot that you are a strong woman for getting through all that. you know i admire all you have achieved and done with your life and i would never place judgment on you for anything you are at present my best friend and i hope that you can see that. i do not attempt to crowd please, by any streach of the imagination, although i'd understand if you thought i was a trouble maker with all my debating here. i do however hold a few people here dear and you are one of them, for the rest i dont care if they like me or not. i do care if you like me or not. it does however scare me that you think i would go back on my word, something i endevor never to do. please accept my apologies for upsetting you, from becca.


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           jmrmumstheword
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | jmrmumstheword
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)

this is one subject that is going to get many of us feeling upset but you know what this is something that happens regardless of what you nor i may think and if its something that person feels is right then its their life and who the hell are w to judge that we can only control what we do in our own lives and if some people have a problem with some people making a decision like this then they arent worth knowing to start with

i am proud of women who can have the right to make their own choices and this is coming from someone who has never had an abortion ever so if i can understand that theses women hae their own right to speak about what has happened in their pasts then back off the rest of you for giving them such a hard time.

everyone has their own thoughts on this topic but who are we to make theses women feel bad for something that they thought was right in THEIR lives at the time

how dare we even think we have the right to judge these women on this subject and i think i read on the heading that the word abortion was there so if you think you are hard done by imagine what these poor women are going through so if you know you will get firewd up about this then dont bloody read it and leave tese poor people alone for once

im so sick and tired of hearing about what the steriotypes think its about tme these women feel they have a chance to speak and have a life after abortion some of them actually have good reasons for it so again to all those who give people like these women a hard time

BACK OFF AND GIVE THEM A BREAK ITS NOT YOUR LIFE SO WHAT ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT HUH???????

thank you so much for sharing your story im so proud that women feel they have just as much right to tell there side as we do ours so keep up the strength and the right for free bloody speach

thanks again,Nikki

p.s like i said i have never had one but everyone has the right to tell their own stories so we shouldnt be so harsh towards people like that huh maybe we all need to take a bloody look at ourselves before we comment on a subject like this because no one is perfect no matter what you think, great job girls and great comment sam lol you give it to them girl!!!!



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                llmunchkin
3.73 (Good) | July 2007 | llmunchkin
Re: my mothers abortion (pro life)
Free speech is great, however it belongs in a personal blog or group blog.

This is the advice section, where people can search for a subject and read about ideas and experiences and suggestions that can help them.

Here is the link to Minti's Code of Honour, and Minti's Editorial Guidelines

Also, this is the edited version that you are commenting on, most of the other comments relate to the original version.


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