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Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)

adamtrac by adamtrac Walking(July 2007) (rank 500+)

This is more 'experience sharing' than advice, as although my story ends well and has left me with some sleep and my mind intact, I am by no means an expert on the subject.  All I can do is share my story in the hope that it might help some

way.

Our Beautiful boy Benjamin Alex came into and completed our happy little family on 26th Feb 07.  We call him our little mircacle because we had heard time and again from doctors that the chances of me falling pregnant were slim (that is another story I shall have to share some other time). Obviously we were so delighted with our new arrival and although we were getting very litlle sleep in the early days/weeks/months I kept saying that there was no way I would ever do 'controlled crying'.  I had read SO MANY conflicting articles on what seems like a millions different websites and the cons seemed to heavily out weigh the pros on the subject. 

At four months my husband suggested that we should give CC a go as I hadn't slept more than 2 or 3 hours at a time since Ben had come into our lives (come to think of it since I had fallen pregnant).  I just couldnt bear the thought of letting hime cry - I again researched the pros and cons and still felt uncomfortable with the idea but conceeded that if things hadnt changed by the time he was 6 months we should give it a try.

So here we are at 5 months 2 weeks and after trying what felt like a million things to get Ben any kind of decent sleep during the night we decided to give CC a go.  First here is the background on his sleep patterns:

  • Weeks 1 - 6 Averaging about 2 hours at a time day and night, including a week of only 45min sleeps!  We tried: Massage, Music, Light on/off, Patting, rocking, singing, white noise, elevated head end of cot, co-sleeping and the only thing that worked in the end was feeding him to sleep.  Which would have been fine if he would have slept for more than an hour or so at a time.  It was fairly obvious that he needed that sucking to comfort him and I was too sore to contine being the dummy.
  • Week 6 - 12 We introduced a dummy which wasnt that easy, being soley breastfed it did take some time and about 10 different types of dummies until we found one he liked.  This worked well and he started to sleep between 2 and 3 hours during the night and continued his 45 minute day time naps. During the evening he was still having 1 or 2 feeds but toward the end he wasnt really feeding that much before falling back to sleep.
  • Week 12 - 18 Things where a bit of a rollercoaster for this period.  Sleep did not get any better, still only 2 or 3 hours at a time during the night, but at least the evening feeds came to an end. However the waking up persisted because if he woke during the night and his dummy had fallen out there was no way he would go back to sleep without it and he was too little to put it back in himself.  
  • Week 19 - 20 We decided that the dummy really had to go so he could learn to fall asleep by himself.  We weaned him off the dummy and substituted it with a cuddly toy that he loves, patting him (without picking him up) and while that did work (eventually) each time it took about 20 minutes to settle.  But each sleep cycle (45min) he would wake up and expect to be patted back to sleep- ARRRRRGGGGHHHH!! we had made things worse :(  We went back to the dummy for a week because he got a cold and the dummy was at least giving him a tiny bit more sleep.
  • Week 21 - Decide to intorduce solids because he was showing signs of still being hungry even after 8-10 breast feeds during the day.  I did try to offer a night feed during this week, thinking that perhaps he was going through a growth spurt and needed a top up but he refused each time.  The solids were going down well, not even a drop spilt so he was clearly ready, but it did nothing for the night sleeps.  At our wits end because now even with the dummy he was waking every 3,2 and sometimes 1 hour during the night (all the while still having his 45 minute naps frequently during the day) so that is when I started looking for more ideas and came across the Minti site. 

We tried a few more new things that were kindly suggested but to no avail and my husband still felt we should give CC a go.  After reading some encouraging stories on Minti, I agreed we should try.  So last Thursday we took the dummy away again and that night we started - Hubby had Friday off so it was perfect timing.  We put the the weekend aside to just concentrate on giving this method a good go and (touch wood) it has worked perfectly, here is what we did:

NIGHT ONE

  • Approx. 6pm last BF for the evening then normal bedtime routine (Play for 30 minutes, Bath, quiet time, story and into bed). We have always said the same thing before leaving the room ' night night bubby, sleep tight, see you in the morning' .
  • No dummy now,  so the crying starts straight away and Hubby takes over because when I go into him it makes he gets worse - maybe because I am just as upset as him.  He was left to cry (not hysterically) for one minute then hubby went back in to reassure him that all was ok, each time saying the same thing before leaving the room and only ever staying for a minute, even if the crying hadn't stopped.  Gradually the time left alone increased to just 3 or 4 minutes at a time - even hubby was struggling to leave him any longer than that.  This went on for about an hour. I was of no use to either of them because I was too upset, to the point that I felt physically sick - That mothers instinct to pick up a crying baby takes over your whole
  • Finally he went to sleep but during that whole hour of crying, there had been not one tear - it really was more an angry - give me what I want cry than anything.
  • He woke again at about 2am (already a much longer sleep than usual) and this time the settling, done in exactly the same way, only took about 7 minutes. 
  • After the 2am wake he didnt stir again until 7am!!!!! I couldnt believe it, and I know we hadnt slept through any cries or grizzles because I didnt sleep a wink for worrying.

 

DAY / NIGHT TWO

  • Still no dummy and day sleeps take a few minutes of grizzling each time before he goes off to sleep
  • With the daytime sleeps I make sure that his room is dim but not dark and we say 'Nap time bub, see you soon' so that he knows the difference between day sleep and night sleep.
  • At night, the usual bedtime routine and only 5 minutes of grizzling before he is asleep.
  • Wakes at 4am but puts himself back to sleep in just a couple of minutes - we didnt even get a chance to wake up and go into him before he was back in the land of nod.
  • wakes at 7:30am YIPPEEE!!!

 DAY / NIGHT THREE

  • Almost exactly the same as day/night 2

DAY / NIGHT FOUR

  • Ditto

 DAY / NIGHT 5

  • Day time sleeps are no trouble now.  We just put him into his cot, say the same thing and he is happy to cuddle up to his toy and sleep.  Sometimes he will lay there for 10 minutes or so talking to himself first and then drifts off to sleep
  • Usual bedtime routine followed by 12 solid hours of sleep!!!!!!

So,  fingers crossed that this trend continues - well at least until the next hurdle - TEETHING!!!!  

I will note that on day two we cut out the solids because Ben hadnt done poo for about 6 days and I was worried it was the rice cereal blocking him up.  I just called the clinic nurse today to check what we should do and she assures me that it should be fine to keep giving him a little each day and that it is normal for BF babies go a week or so between poo's sometimes. I guess you really just do keep on learning each day dont you!!

I am so glad that this worked for us (so far) but even with the benifit of hindsight, I wouldnt have changed anything about getting to this point.  I am glad I tried plenty of things first and I don't think I would have tried it at any earlier age.  I am certain he understands now that even though he cant see us, we are still here and will come if he NEEDS us.  Obviously CC isnt for everyone and every baby is differnent  but if you are considering it PLEASE make sure your baby is happy and healthy to start with and that you have plenty of support - I could never had done it alone. 

I know this has been a long read, but if you have made it all the way to the end and it helps just one person out there, I will be so very glad I wrote it.

Good luck and if there is anything you would like to ask, please feel free to contact me,  I am by NO MEANS an expert but I am a great listener :)

Tracey

 

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exquisite-flower
September 10th | exquisite-flower
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)

This is a great piece of advice.  None of us are experts, but when we can share what worked for us and what we tried to get to the point we are at then others can also use our experiences as a starting point and adapt it to work for them and their life/situation. 

The best thing we can do is get our children into a routine and then when the next disruption comes, teething/no nappies/school or something less expected that life throws our way at least we can more easily get back to it and happy children means happy parents lol.

Peace
EF.x



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      adamtrac
September 13th | adamtrac
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)

Thanks for the feedback :)

Your so right - routine is the king of raising children it just makes every new thing (and there are sooooo many of them) so much easier to deal with.

I guess I will get to put that theory to the test when bub number 2 arrives in January!!!!

Thanks again,

Tracey



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mumof2b
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | mumof2b
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)

I'm a huge advocate for CC. However I also know that it doesn't work for every child. I did it with my first child as I was an absolute wreck......the only way he would go to sleep was in my arms and I had to walk him, if I sat down or lied down he would start to cry. I Put up with it for as long as I could, but when he was 8 months old my Doctor suggested I do it as I was extremely sleep deprived and at my wits end. However I went to Tresillian get their help as they know how to do it properly and showed me all the tips and gave me the confidence to go home and do it on my own. I cannot praise the Midwives enough, they were so supportive and were there with me the whole time. Since then my son has been a fabulous sleeper.

Amanda xxxxx



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Domestic-warrior
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | Domestic-warrior
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)
You are a brave woman!  I'm still getting up to Kaelan and i'm reluctant to do CC.  He has a cold (again) at the moment anyway.  I tried it with my first son and it was a disaster he would not stop crying, so i'm reluctant to do that again,  let me know how things go...i'd love to hear since Kaelan and Ben are the same age.  Julie


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      adamtrac
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | adamtrac
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)

Hi Julie,

I know exactly how you feel, like I said, I was really against it, but in the end I figured a night or two of crying was better in the long run because I was just so tired that I was getting impatient with him during the day and really had no energy to spend good quality time.  I have to say though, there is probably no way I could have done it myself, I had to lock myself in our bedroom while my hubby tended to Ben.  We didnt really stick to the CC 'rules' of extending the time, even hubby couldnt stand to let him cry for too long, he just stayed outside the room and kept going in and talking to him without too much contact and definatley no picking up.

It has been two weeks now and he is still sleeping through the night (7:30 - 7:30ish) His day sleeps are still only 45 minutes but that is no problem now that I am not a walking zombie during the day. He still doesnt have a dummy but he loves to sleep with his cuddly (it is one of those comforter things with a hear and just a peice of material for a body).

I was really worried that Ben would become distant or withdrawn after theCC because that is what a lot of the sites say, but if anything he is happier and more vocal (in a good way - he wasnt really trying to talk much before) during the day, perhaps it is because he is getting good quality sleep now??

It is such a hard decision to make, good luck and I hope that Kaelan gets better soon, it is so aweful when they are sick :(

Trac :)



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RylansMum
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | RylansMum
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)
I have thought about doing this with my 8month old aswell, but i just cant let him cry. I have not slept longer than 2-3 hours at one time since the day he was born. Maybe its time for me to re think cc?


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      adamtrac
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | adamtrac
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)

Hi there, I know exactly what you mean.  If you are going to try it, maybe you could get some-one else to go into the room each time while you are in another room with the tv on so you cant hear??  Good Luck!



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | nell18-3
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)
Thankyou for sharing
I did this with mine and it worked very well, I let them know I was there, sometimes even sitting in the room with them singing but not actually fussing over them. It worked very quickly for me
xx


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      adamtrac
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | adamtrac
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)

Thanks :)

Yeah, that is a great idea.  I did something similar one or two times during the day sleeps.  Standing just outside the door singing so he know I was nearby - it worked a treat.



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MummaBear
4.50 (Excellent) | July 2007 | MummaBear
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)
I'm very anti-controlled crying, but it seems you tried everything else first.  Thanks for sharing.


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      adamtrac
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | adamtrac
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)
I was too - in fact I would still be in cases where you havent tried other things first and if bub got too distressed :)


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           MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | MummaBear
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)
That's what I was saying, you did try everything else first and you used it as a last resort.  Well done to you.


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MumKim
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | MumKim
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)
Thank you for sharing your experience. I have a 7 week old daughter who co-sleeps and wakes for feeds during the night. Also difficulty with day sleeps. I too have been reluctant to try cc.


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      adamtrac
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | adamtrac
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)

Hi, this is purely my opinion but I think 7 weeks is probably too young for CC.  Its probably a good idea to try some other things first, even if bub doesnt sleep for longer periods but learns to actually go to sleep alone at least?  Hang in there - if nothing else, rest assured that it will get easier to cope and your body will adjust to your new sleep (or lack of) pattern.

Good luck, I remember how hard this felt early on, feel free to vent to me anytime :)



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           Domestic-warrior
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | Domestic-warrior
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)
I have heard you shouldn't use it before 6 months, so 7 weeks sounds too young to me. Jx


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hermy
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | hermy
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)
great advice Tracey.......this is very hard to do........but like you say it's about the child knowing you are still nearby......thanks for sharing your experience......well done.....regards Sandra xxx


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      adamtrac
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | adamtrac
Re: Controlled Crying - I never thought I could (or would)

Thanks Sandra



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