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baby crying? How to have a happy baby that doesnt cry and sleeps through the night.

taniagirly by taniagirly Speaking(July 2007) (rank 280th)

I have two boys - and two very different experiences. The first had no routine, I let him fall asleep while feeding (big no-no as they wake up looking for it and cry), and put him in bed with a bottle later (also a big no-no for several reasons). I

never gave him a dummy. I used controlled crying if he woke in the night. Although he slept beautifully at night he did not settle on his own and did not sleep well in the day. He cried and grizzled all day and I was never really able to enjoy him until he was about 6 months old! It took until he was 3 to break the habit of going to bed with a bottle! My second son is now 4 months. I used the Gina Ford routine (Contented litte baby by Gina Ford) from day one. He only woke once in the night and by 6 weeks he was sleeping through to 7am. It is an old routine (I was raised on it) but Gina has put into an easy to read book. My baby goes to bed,goes straight to sleep and sleeps solidly until I wake him. It was recommended to me by a friend amd I in turn have recommended it to several new mothers. It is a lifesaver if you are a working mum too! Also my husband has never gone to work exhausted so he swears by the routine too. You have to be disciplined but the rewards are worth it. Comments like "wow isn't he happy!" And "doesn't he ever cry?" are very common for us. He doesn't cry because the routine enables me to know whether he is hungry,tired or just has wind. You have to follow rhe routine 100% though or you will wonder why its not working. My version of the main features of the routine are: Not letting your baby stay awake for too long - the majority of first babies cry because they are tired. When you put them in bed and they don't sleep you think "he's not tired so maybe he's hungry" - but he may actually be overtired! If you put them in bed even 5 minutes too late they may not settle and they will grizzle for another hour. Typically at this point we feed them and they fall straight to sleep - only to wake up not long after being put to bed. This is the start of a bad sleeping habit. Newborn babies can stay awake for about an hour and a half, between 1 month and 6 months they can stay awake for about two hours. Look carefully for signs of tiredness at this time. Signs include: •Yawning (sometimes comes after the other signs-by this time it can be too late)

 •Red rimmed eyes (this is my babys most obvious sign) •Grizzling, a low pitch grumpy sounding cry. •Rubbing eyes (only happens when they have control over their hands) •long blinks Falling asleep on the breast is not necessarily a sign of tiredness-my sleepy baby always fell asleep when I fed him-even if the breast was full. If he has been awake for less than an hour he probably isn't tired. He has only stopped being sleepy now at 4 months. Best to just sit them up,wind them, change diaper and carry on feeding. Another aspect to the routine is feeding the baby a full feed when they wake up from a nap and timing the sleeps around their feeds. This way they are never so hungry that they are crying, and they are never so tired that they don't feed well. This also prevents snack feeding and lactose overdose (which can come from too much foremilk being drunk and not emptying the breast). So the result is not only a happy baby but one who is chubby and growing well. If the baby is having enough milk in the day they don't wake up hungry at night. Feed your baby until they are so full they are spitting the nipple or teat out of their mouth! They will then last a few hours before they are hungry again. Make sure the feed doesn't take more than 45 mins (even if you don't think they got enough) as it will put them off the next feed. If you wait until the baby cries before feeding him,it can be about half an hour after he is actually ready for a feed. Subsequently each feed is delayed by half an hour and you end up feeding in the night! I can't tell you all the wonderful advice in the book - I urge you to buy it for yourself and see the difference. You will have more free time and you will enjoy your baby so much more. The rest of your family will also appreciate your calmer attitude and you can spend more quality time with them. My husband and I have the evening to ourselves because the baby goes to bed at 7pm and our 3 year old goes to bed at 8pm. Since having the baby I still have not needed to go to bed during the day for a sleep because I get enough sleep at night-its great :)

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Izzy
December 2007 | Izzy
Re: baby crying? How to have a happy baby that doesnt cry and sleeps through the night.

Good points. But we also have to take into consideration the temperament of the baby.  I had a routine established with my son, yet he never slept through the night until he was 1 year old...and that's just relatively speaking. He is now almost 3 and still wakes up several times a night.

With my twins, I have also established a routine early on and they are much easier. They started sleeping long stretches at night at about 4-5 months.

Same techniques, different temperaments = different outcomes.   But it's great to have a lot of differnet things to try though because it's really a matter of testing a lot of things and finding out what works for you and baby.



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ling-ling
August 2007 | ling-ling
Re: baby crying? How to have a happy baby that doesnt cry and sleeps through the night.
I agree with you about the routine. I think the people who get caught up in it and don't leave the house like MummaBear says are people who don't understand how to use the routine to their advantage. Instead they become captive to the routine and it acts more like a schedule and isn't being used the way the authors of the popular routine books expected. I don't postpone things or not go grocery shopping because I use a routine, which is probably pretty similar to yours. It makes it easier to predict when he'll be ready to eat or nap and for some reason or another because of the routine it makes him more flexible. He knows that I am going to take care of him and it's like it doesn't really cross his mind to complain about it because I'm there with a bottle before he is so hungry he's crying. My only thing about the routine is that with a baby who doesn't want to nap through the day doesn't always follow the "routine" so we stay flexible. If I'm out and he's tired, he sleeps but it's not like I have to rush home so I can put him in is crib, he's just flexible like that and knows I'll make sure his needs are taken care of instead of having to demand that I take care of them.


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      taniagirly
August 2007 | taniagirly
Re: baby crying? How to have a happy baby that doesnt cry and sleeps through the night.
Thanks for your supportive comment - it sounds like you understand what I mean about routines, it saves a lot of hassle and makes life soooo much easier :)


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MummaBear
August 2007 | MummaBear
Re: baby crying? How to have a happy baby that doesnt cry and sleeps through the night.
Mine hardly cried and slept through from day one.  I never read any routine book either.  All I did was be in touch with what she needed and met her needs immediately.  She fell asleep at the breast but not with each feed, only when she was really ready for sleep and she always had a full feed first then kept sucking for an extra 10 minutes to go to sleep.  Personally I think the whole 'schedule' thing is a little overrated.  People who use a schedule seem to be so concerned about having to be home all the time to avoid interruptions, they only have people over at certain times to avoid interruptions, and they just don't do much else.  My daughter's god-mother is much like me, but her twin sister Angie swore by this book.  Only problem was that she couldn't go to playgroup or mothers groups because she had to be home for that morning sleep which was on at the same time.  She wanted to go to a coffee group i'd arranged on a monday afternoon at 2pm, but she couldn't because her baby had to have an afternoon nap at that time.  She couldn't go anywhere at night time because she had to do everything just right and wouldn't trust a babysitter to keep to the schedule and was worried that the baby might fall out of routine.  I felt so sorry for her and swore I would never force any routine with mine.  I could be wrong about that, but it seems like every mum i've talked to who has followed this book spent the first 12 months inside their own home, and even grocery shopping had to be carefully planned to avoid conflicting with the schedule but mostly they sent their hubbies out to do the shopping anyway.  Poor Angie, by the time her first was 18 months old and she could have gone to mothers groups, and all the rest of it, she'd just brought home number 2 and had to start over with that one.


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      taniagirly
August 2007 | taniagirly
Re: baby crying? How to have a happy baby that doesnt cry and sleeps through the night.

I understand you point of view - as I had first thought the same thing about routines.  You might have had a particularly good baby though.... For people who are struggling with a baby and they don't know why they are crying and not sleeping, then understanding a routine and applying it can help - hence the title of the advice.  I have come across many women who thought they could read their babies well, and respond to their needs - only to have their world turned upside down by their next baby who was the complete opposite.  It often comes down to the individual baby. If you have coped well without any routine then you are one of the lucky ones , and you're right - you don't need a routine! Girls are also infinitely easier!

Most babies if allowed to fall asleep on the breast will expect it every time - even in the night.  They will not learn to fall asleep on their own, and it is a difficult habit to break (my son needed a bottle until three years old!). 

If you use a routine, it is more about understanding when your baby will be tired or hungry, and expecting it - rather than guessing.  It also means that your baby has all their feeds in the day, and they don't need them at night.  I have never allowed the routine to affect my visits, but instead used it to make visits easier.  If I know my baby will be awake and has a feed at 2.30pm - I can then do everything I want after that - and not be interupted by having to feed the baby.  I have never had to stop in the middle of shopping to feed the baby or settle him to sleep - and my baby never cries at all because his needs are met before he even knows about it. If I have a planned outing, like a morning group or to see friends (usually those things are planned at least the day before) I alter the routine so that the baby will be awake at those times.  It is not so rigid that I'm ever stuck in the house! I have the evenings to myself - because my 4 month old goes to bed at 7pm - and I'm never tired because I get 9 hours solid sleep every night. 

Isn't it worth a little effort to have that?  I think for most people it is.



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stacey79
5.00 (Excellent) | July 2007 | stacey79
Re: baby crying? How to have a happy baby that doesnt cry and sleeps through the night.

that sounds great .my first 2 boys didnt sleep through till they where 9 months old.

i changed what i did for my last 2 and they where sleeping through since they where 6 weeks old.i didnt use any book only because i didnt know any exsited if i where to have another i would read this book.

i changed my routine and noticed a big differnce.great advice



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      taniagirly
July 2007 | taniagirly
Re: baby crying? How to have a happy baby that doesnt cry and sleeps through the night.

You definitely need a routine with four kids!  The book makes a great present for anyone with a new baby too - something different that means a lot more than clothes.

Cheers for making a comment on my first article :)



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