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NOT A PARENT FRIENDLY STORE

Shellshell by Shellshell Talking(August 2007) (rank 95th)

STAY CLEAR OF THIS STORE IF YOU ARE A PARENT BECAUSE:

So yesterday I started my day off quite well. Left home around 8.30am, picked the boys and my mum up from her house, as the boys had had a sleep over at Nanny's house. I was going out

for the day with my mum.

We sometimes visit the Salvo op shop a few suburbs away, as it always has good quality clothes for a very reasonable price. It's situated under a church. I had Dylan and Shanae with me.

So we arrived there and started to look around. I said to Dylan "stay where Mummy can see you", and he decided to go look at the toys.

Have was being reasonably well behaved but about 15 mins later he just kept running around the shop, and would not stay where I could see him. I said to him" you must stay where mummy can see you, now please stop running around". He persisted in doing this is, which really got my blood boiling!!!

I have started the 3 boys on Omega Fish Oil tablets, 2 days ago and that's when I decided I may take another approach in the way I deal with their misbehaviour.

So I walked over to him, grabbed him by the hand and said to him, " Dylan you keep runnning around darling, and not staying where mummy can see you, so I will hold your hand now until we're ready to go".

He got quite upset and started to whinge and whine, had quite a slight volume to it as he was not getting his own way!  But I kept it together, I did not smack him and just kept telling him that he had to stay with me now because he had not done what Mummy had asked.

I'm guessing this noise of his tantrum was annoying, because the op shop gentleman looked at me and said, " if he can not stop that and be quiet, you'll have to take him out of the shop". I was like WHAT??? I said " beg your pardon", and he repeated "if he can not stop that, you'll have to take him out of the shop!".

I was so hurt and horrified by this. I mean Dylan was having a tantrum because he couldn't get his own way and I was trying the best way possible to deal with it. A lady shopping inside the shop, then turned to me and said " he seems very unhappy to be crying like that!". She did not know what was going on,  when did it become her right to put her 20 cents worth in????.

I turned to her and said, "listen here, my son keeps running away from me and will not stay close to me, therefore I am holding his hand so I can see him, he will not get taken by anyone and will not run out into the carpark and get hit by a car!". I was so angry and hurt. I was trying the best I could do deal with the problem at hand.

You see lately, I have had the worst time with my 3 boys. Their misbehaviour, not doing as asked and I have been getting so upset and stressed about it all.

So I walked out of the shop, it utter disgust and went straight to the church's office to make a complaint! I spoke to a lovely lady there, but was informed the gentleman that was head honcho was not there and she would take my name and number and he would get back to me.

He rang later on and asked me to tell my side of the story. I told him exactly what had gone on. I had explained to him that I thought this was totally unfair. I mean I'm sure everyone has seen a child have a tantrum while out shopping??? He proceeded to tell me, that the gentleman in the shop was the manager and was quite within in his right to ask me to leave. He also said, "we cannot having children playing up in our shop for the amount of time and upsetting other shoppers".

I said to him, "you are willing to lose a customer and money for your charity, because my child decided to have a tantrum in your shop???", and the reply was "yes, we cannot have children playing up like that and upsetting customers in our shop!".

So I replied to him, "I think you are very rude, this is a op shop for christ's sake not David Jones and from now on I'll be supporting another charity with my money, not yours!" and hung up.

I am going to take this further, as I think it was unfair and just plain rude. I am not Mrs Money bags, and most of the time I can pick up good quality clothes, even labelled clothes like Jay's Jay's etc etc from op shops and markets for a great price as I cannot afford to buy them brand new.

So, what do you think?

Were they rude in asking me to leave?

Was it fair?

Should I take this further???

Let me know what you think, thanks for reading.

 Shelley

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superpo
April 2008 | superpo
Re: NOT A PARENT FRIENDLY STORE

I realize you posted this awhile ago, but I came across it and had to say, I feel for you! I'm really surprised that you didn't at least get some sympathy from the person you talked to on the phone after explaining things! Some people just don't like children, I guess. I agree with the other posters who say that you just have to stop taking your business to places like this! I imagine you've found someplace else to shop since you posted this!



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      georgiepar
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | georgiepar
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omg how dare you attack shelly this way i don't care if you know her as this seems to be the case. you don't say thing like this as itt is very very rude and hurtfull. i am reporting you


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           Arna
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | Arna
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Me too!  Negative comments breed negative mental well being and this can be harmful to our kids.  Please try to keep your comments more friendly.  We all have the right to share, but there are better ways of doing this.


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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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how dare you attack shelly like that i dont care what u think of her i think she is a wonderful mother sheelley keep ur chin up hun and stand tall


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      cheekymonkey
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | cheekymonkey
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Hey all, this person hammy has been deleted. But I woulda thought the comment would have gone with it, but I'm not sure how the system works.


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           Arna
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | Arna
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Thanks.  I can't believe that some people would use Minti to carry on like that.  I felt hurt by the comment too.   I'm just sensitive, but not afraid to put myself out there and defend myself or someone else who has been mistreated!

All mums need help sometimes!  There is no such thing as the perfect parent!  We are all learning everyday!

Happy learning all.


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      Shamali
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | Shamali
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Regardless to how you have treated your chn in the past, you are obviously trying very hard to do the right thing now. Good on you for trying to inforce some positive parenting. Excellent! I would have done exactly what you did in that situation except i would have left the shop. Our rule is if my chn do not behave whilst shopping we leave... it can be inconvenient but they get the message quicker. IE If I am not behaved we go home and do nothing. This works. You only have to do it once or twice for them to get the message and it avoids embarassing situations like this.

Never got the pleasure to know Hammy, what a shame... NOT!!!!



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jd2
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | jd2
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I can't believe how they treated you I'm in the uk but when I did my retail training I worked in a a charity shop,this is certainly not a policy I'm a custom to, parents are one of the main shoppers that keep these shop's going so they'll deeply regret there actions very soon. If its a charity you really want to continue supporting have a look at there web site to see if they have anouther store near by as I think this is more down to the ignorant staff.


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wyattsmoma
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | wyattsmoma
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 Its Appauling what people will do in the name of God sometimes, Its what makes most people who dont believe in God have a basis for their beliefs! All In all I think they were in the wrong, But there were some options I believe you should also explore if you ever go back, First is let em run! Let those kids loose and just quietly stand by to make sure they are safe ( forget the merchandise they obviously dont care about selling it!)  Thats the "ok Fine" side of me that usually gets me in fights though... Another option would have been to walk out of the store ( just out the door) calm your Child and then return to your shopping, if Complaints continued then I would Ask for Higher ups from the person making the complaints. I take my Children ( ages 3 and 20 months) with me everywhere I go, I mean to buy Glasses, to get my nose pierced, my Son even witnessed his name bieng tattooed onto his fathers arm, I keep them contained though, Wyatt often has a Buddy Back pack on ( the tail of the animal is a leash) and Cheyenne is usually in a stroller, But they still make noise. I buy second hand all the time! The stores are usually child friendly, the atmosphere is relaxed, the people are there for a good cause, this store sounds the dead opposite of my personal experiances!  The important thing is that you keep your cool, Remember every one has their oppinion... some are idiots and feel the need to voice every single one of them... You are the better person, Ignore them! Kids are people, in a store they are costomers, in a Resturaunt they are Diners, and in a hotel they are guests all the same as You or I, anywhere that doesnt treat your children accordingly shoudl not make a dime of you money! HOld it in your heart that Your better... and they will suffer from their bitterness in the end!


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natelz1
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | natelz1
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I cannot believe it! Take it further, because they have no right to treat you that way. Thats absolutely appalling, ive never herd of it before.


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mumof2b
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | mumof2b
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That's terrible Shelley.....they had absolutely no right in asking you to leave. Kid's throw tantrums all the time and most people have the sense to just ignore them.

Amanda xxxxx



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mumto4
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | mumto4
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that is discusting and they think they are people of god


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llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | llmunchkin
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They sure don't seem to behave in a 'charitable' way do they?  Not a very good advertisement for their store at all - it is a shame, as the Salvo's generally have a good name.  I will make sure that my next lot of clothing donations go to other charities unless I hear that you have received an apology.


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FremantleDocker
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | FremantleDocker
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I'm sure you had this article in a blog i think, and i am sure i replied in it. Please see the blog if it is in there. thanks


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merlin0903
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | merlin0903
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well done Shelly,

which church is this so that i know to stay away from it is it one in brisbane,   as for asking you to leave and then been told that they are in the right and you are in the wrong then if it was me i would be going to the Archdiocese of the religion and talking to someone there,  just an idea for you,

good luck and you aren't in the wrong



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georgiepar
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | georgiepar
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hi there shell you know what i should come down there next weekend me and my four then you and your mob and anyone one eles in the area . might even borrow an extra kid or three. and go to that shop and tell the kids to do there best. like to see em try n kick both of us out. hehe we'd probly end up on the news. for disturbing the peace. how rude are they well you know what they can do go and get well and trully F*#!*#D. I'M WITH YA MATE


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      merlin0903
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | merlin0903
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i'll be in on that, tell me a time and where and i'll be there


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Libby24
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | Libby24
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Well done Shell. people need to understand that kids need disaplin and making them leave is the child getting its own way.

go kick ass Shell and you dont need to be told to leave some where as we have the right to be there.

hugs and love
Liz


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sealsista72
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | sealsista72
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I am  horrified!!! I only occasionally go to op shops these days as having four boys, I usually have enough stuff to pass down without having to, but I DID go into a Salvos store in my area in June and there were quite a few children running up and down the ramp that took you to the furniture section, and eventually this mother had taken enough nonsense from her children also and had a sulky child too, but she didn't get any complaints from anyone that ran the store.  I really don't think they have a right to.  What is the world coming to??? I don't understand it.  I am curious whether the people that were so nasty to you have ever had children of their own...??? I have a lady that lives behind me who constantly says "SHUT UP...!!!" quite loudly mind you, every time I am telling my children to do the right thing.  She says to people that I am loud, but it just seems that way as my yard is huge and it backs onto the units and amplifies the sound as I only have a few trees in the backyard.    Just like her, I think the people that told you should basically, mind their own business!!! I wouldn't be going there again either if I was you, and I would definitely be taking it further also.  Those shops are meant for everyone, and you shouldn't have been discriminated like that.


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MumKim
2.89 (Average) | August 2007 | MumKim
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Which store? There are hundreds of them around the country. Are you suggesting we avoid them all?


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      cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | cazza
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Would you like her to name the store, as she could easily email you the name, or post it... as most of us know which one it is..

I think that the message that shell is putting across in her advise is that we have to be careful with stores like this, that aint aint child friendly...'

It would be like being told that if your baby was crying, and a parent was told to leave if they couldnt quieten their baby, its just absolutely rude.....


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           MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | MummaBear
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If you are at the movies, or attending a wedding/funeral, etc, we would automatically take our kids away, but at the shops??? You're right, and it's not just this shop either it's any other shop that would ask you to leave because of the child making a fuss.  We go through enough as parents without being told to leave shops.


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MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | MummaBear
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Wow, kids have tantrums in shops all the time! Mostly as mums we leave because of the stress of it all, but what hide telling a mother to take her child out of the shop!  Do they want us to go back to the dark ages where kids are seen and not heard and mothers are to stay home and raise the kids and clean the house and only go out when society says it's ok to?


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princesskc88
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | princesskc88
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hehe cazza nd shell nd another minti mum r the minti 3 member army  lol hehe jk


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emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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i think this is really rude im glad i dont shop here not that i could great article

cheers x



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cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | cazza
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That is just so rude and i hope that me and a another minti mum was a great help for you tonight on msn///

GIRL POWER AND YOU GO GIRL....TAKE HIM AND HIS STORE DOWN


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hermy
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | hermy
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i am sure this is a type of discrimination.......thanks for sharing.......i hope there is a positive outcome......regards Sandra xxx


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Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | Kellzacar
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WTG . . . .

Thanks for putting this out there .  .I know which store to stay clear off . . . That is so wrong . .

Cheers Kellz


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