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Post tonsillectomy bleed

kiwikate by kiwikate Walking(August 2007) (rank 500+)

Hi there, thought i might tell a you all about something that happened over the weekend . I am a nurse and work part time at the local ED in the weekends. Saturday afternoon and im at the front desk doing triage and mum and dad walk in with there

wee one who looked about 3 and really pale. Dad was carrying baby and mum came up to me and told me that her girl had her tonsills out 2 weeks earlier and had been coughing up blood. Baby looked really white and had quite a bit of blood on her pjs. Now at this point im thinking "shit shit shit shit"  and i take them straight into the department on to a bed and within seconds there were about 4 medical staff surrounding her and dad looked like he was going to pass out. At one stage there were 3 nurses and 2 doctors  and the poor wee girl was so scared and she was crying and saying to the doctor " thats very dangerous, please stop it" as he was putting needles into her arm and two nurses were holding her down and my heart was breaking for her because she was so scared. The point of the story so far in my own rambling, badly spelt way is

                            * Any bleeding after anyone of any age has had their tonsills out is bad bad bad bad

                            * Call an ambulance

 Well, the story continues. They finally managed to get an iv line in her arm after much crying (dad and baby and i will admit to a lump in my throat) and then all of a sudden mum and dad walk away and round the corner, i think they might have been going out far a smoke. Poor wee girl got so upset and everyone around her was really busy sorting out fluids to go up and organising the Paediatric emergency drus and resus pack and i just wanted to go over there and pick her up and cuddle her and make it all better but i couldn'T and then GRANDMA  swooped in as if out of nowhere like a superhero, almost like she came out of nowhere and then all of a sudden there she was....She did a fantastic manouver to get straight in under all the wires and iv lines and around doctors that were standing all close together around the wee girl and she went straight up to the top of that bed to babys head and held her head in her hands, stroking her hair  and started softly whispering to her and everything went quiet and it was abeautiful thing to watch so YAY for grandma. Mum and dad were back pretty quick, i felt so sorry for them, they were panicking, and i can't say i blame them, the doctor told me after that they were about 1minute away from putting in an intraosseous (don't quote me on the spelling) needle which is a hideous thing that reminds me of a giant cork screw that goes into the tibia bone which runs between the knee and ankle. Horrible Horrible Horrible things but they do a lifesaving job if they can't get iv access anywhere else (remember she has been bleeding, she is pale and she looks like s##t so her veins are pretty flat). Any more point to the story you ask, well...

                         *Stay with your kids, comfort them, touch them and talk to them

                         * nobody can tell you to leave

                         * stay calm and focus on the child, hysterics and yelling will not help the situation

                         * Grandmas rule

So the ambulance arrived and loaded her on to the trolley and took her to the tertiary hospital about 30minutes down the road where she was taken straight to the operating room. I was talking to the doc that went up with her the next day and he said they couldn't locate the source of the bleed so they ended up cauterising ( like a hot poker to the skin, it burns all the blood vessles shut  and smells really bad as they are doing it) ) the whole area to make sure they stopped the bleed. She was fine apparently and will be sitting up eating icecream tomorrow for breakfast. A happy ending is always good. All that took about 45minutes to happen from beginning to end.

So, some  advice for kids who have had their tonsills out

                       * have lots of paracetamol and/or nurofen at home

                       * soft foods(obviously)

                       * yoghurt is great for mouths, it keeps them nice and clean and is very soothing to eat when u have a sore throat

                       *Coughing alot is something to be aware of because it can sometimes cause bleeding by irritating/disturbing the wound

                       *Your child may cough up scabs from the wound at some stage

                        *Signs of infection are  temperature, increasing pain, feeling unwell, lethargy

                        * Good fluid intake is important.

                        * I cannot stress enough that any bleeding needs to be investigated( see above story!!!)

                       

So i think that is the end of my advice, Actually it might not even be advice, just the ramblings of a woman who spends far to little time in the company of adults and has a story she needed to tell. 

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karolina
September 2007 | karolina
Re: Post tonsillectomy bleed

I just had my tonsillectomy 10 days ago. During last 2 nights I had bleeding. It looked like a horror movie sciene. I woke up caughing out blood, had it all over the bathroom. Each time for 10 min I gurgled with icy cold watter and bleeding stopped. I am affraid I may not wake up one night.

I just read on line that it is important to keep normal diet.  I ate only soft foods and nutritional drinks. I think it was a mistake. I probably needed some better nutrition to recover, probably more fat, which I will not find in jello or pudding.

So in case you have tonsillectomy, remember nurish yourself well and when you bleed gurgle with ice watter while waiting for an ambulance or maybe even on the way to hospital. It helped me.



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monyq83
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | monyq83
Re: Post tonsillectomy bleed

That is possibly the best peice of advice I have read in a very long time!

My son is due to go in for a tonsilectomy and adenoidectomy soon so the info u just gave me was vital.

So well written and easy to understand, and thank you for using medical terms and explaining them, it will make it alot easier for me on the day should the doctor use those words with me. If i could give you 6 stars I would, well done!!



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August88
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | August88
Re: Post tonsillectomy bleed
This is definately great advice!


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      August88
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | August88
Re: Post tonsillectomy bleed
sorry about the multiples. I thought it wasn't working. Slow computer giving me the creeps!


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August88
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | August88
Re: Post tonsillectomy bleed
This sounds like great advice to me. I love how you told the story and put the advice through as needed. Glad there was a happy ending. Nurses are amazing and I hope that they get there pay rise soon!


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August88
5.00 (Excellent) | September 2007 | August88
Re: Post tonsillectomy bleed
This sounds like great advice to me and I love the way you put the story then dotted the advice through as needed. Glad of the happy ending. Nurses are amazing and I think they should get that pay rise!


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dogtoes
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | dogtoes
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Great Story..And YES YES YES..Never leave your child alone. My son who was 20yrs. old at this time last year June 2006 had his tonsils removed & 9 days post-op he had his first MAJOR arterial bleed. I too am a nurse & was just returning home from fishing with my husband & a doctor friend of ours. When my daughter called to say she found my only son passed out in the bathroom with blood squirting out his mouth, she & her friends knew right away it was bad & to drive him to the nearest hospital or he would be dead. We also drove straight to the hospital, and when I arrived in the ER, I didn't care if I went to jail. I jumped the counter at the ER station & ran room to room until I located my son at the end of the hall by himself. I went crazy. Had it not been that I was a nurse he would have laid there & died all alone. He had surgery but bleed out again the next day. Than we had to fly him 2 hours away to a trauma center in Richmond, Va when my own hospital refused his care. To say the least he had a total of FOUR (YES FOUR) major arterial bleeds & the end result was over 30 units of PRBC, Plasma & Platelets in 12 days. Finally at the end when they threw numerous IR stents into his arteries & he still would not stop bleeding they opened up his neck & tied & put a huge clamp to shut off his External Carotid Artery. "FINALLY" the bleeding stopped. I can tell you that even though my boy is 20 I never left his side. I am still amazed the ICU nurses allowed me to stay with him 24/7 as ICU's have visiting hours. I probably lost 15 lbs. in 12 days but he is my son..And not for a second would I leave his side...

Rose C.(VaBeach)

 



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AZMom
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | AZMom
Re: Post tonsillectomy bleed

Aww poor girl! So pleased she is okay, and good on Grandma for keeping it together!

I had a tonsillectomy at the age of 23 and coughed up blood for days..it is a horrible thing. It must be so hard for young children to go through. For days you can feel the stitches in your throat when you swallow.

Thanks for sharing.



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hermy
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | hermy
Re: Post tonsillectomy bleed
great advice.......this is so important.....thank you for putting out here.....i think it will help many mother be more aware of the danger signs.......i am so happy everything turned out good.....poor little thing must have been terrified, and yes hurray for grandmothers.......thank you......regards Sandra xxx


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belinda03
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | belinda03
Re: Post tonsillectomy bleed

that poor little girl

made me cry reading it well at least she is on the mend

great advice

bel



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merlin0903
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | merlin0903
Re: Post tonsillectomy bleed
wow that poor little girl, i'm so glad that they were able to stop the bleeding,  great advice too... well done


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stuterri
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | stuterri
Re: Post tonsillectomy bleed

hi

great advice, Well written

I was told that giving toast would also help the scabs form and help with the healing. Coke is another thing i was told as the fizz helps ease the soreness.



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