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Abuse and Forgiveness

emmie by emmie Talking Back(August 2007) (rank 26th)

Ok im writting this article due to something i have been thinking about alot in the last few days and i think it is something everybody has differant opinions on and i say now before i go any further that i also respect all other opinions after all we are

all differant.

Can u get on with ur life after u have been abused without FORGIVING ?????

Well my answer to this is a great big yes , i have and im ure others have too im not saying ive wiped it clean out of my life but now i know he was wrong i was a child and innocent , he did this to me out of his free will he did not make a mistake every dayof my living youth that same mistakke  day in day out , the black eyes the bruises that travelled up my back , inside my whole body was bleeding my mum never believed me nioow why should i forgive this man , he meant this hurt and damage he has torn me away from my family leaving me to stand by myself i went to the police after yrs of torment and abuse thanks to my partner he was arrested and put on bbail it worked ouut the videos were gone my sister was living at home there was no way she was talking to the polie he ended up getting a caution after this i was scared so i ran we moved over 200 miles i decided to find my dad and tell him i tried and tried to get an injunction on him my parents were trying to get information ot of my senile grandmother who revealed im safe and living in my town name and i was witth my father my mother harrassed and harrassed her until i had an injunction against her and with this was a letter that i only wished for my sister to ever gain contact with me and know my whereabouts and she confirmed she never wants  see me again thank god there  were 3 of us he abused 1 of which is now dead so do i forgive him NO not in a million worlds i would not spit on him if he was on fire i know people do come to bring theirselfs to forgive for such an act but i never will he is a very evil man although i am over the abuse i would not be able to face him believe me ive tried calling a thousand times to tell him how much he ruined our lifes but nothing comes out

How can you abuse the child you are a responsible father to i used to ask myself is it the drink but NO thats no excuse to abuse a innocent child no matter how much  was hurting he would still keep going hurting me more and more i could shout but whats the point im not believed nobody is listening to the crying shouting or screaming im alone once again why should i forgive any of this it was all meant he was supposed to be my dad he was supposed to love me and take care f me i only remember 1 dayhe ever took care of me he ruined my childhood and mostof all he ruined me .

Is it essential to forgive ????

NO if u dont want to forgive if u cant find it in you to forgive then DONT its your cvhoice , your life and your healing and dont ever let anybody tell you that u have to forgive your abuser because you dont its your body that has took the pain and your mind too as far as im concerned my abuser can rot in hell and i will go to his funeral to dance on his grave but that time will come there is no excuse for abuse ecspecially a innocent child

Thanks for reading

PS  If ur child tells you they are being abused please DONT ignore it your child needs you

Thanks

Emz xX

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karleigh
December 2008 | karleigh
Re: Abuse and Forgiveness

great advice i hope everyone reads this



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jayp
October 2008 | jayp
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i was sexualy abused as a child, it left me mentaly scarred and rather violent this led to me drinking my depression away after my kids were born. i became both verbally and physicaly abusive to the love of my life.

i know what i did was wrong and i can never take back the pain i caused her, but she has forgiven me and i have been sober for over a week now.

I was abused by my foster care brother and my own father, my father is near death and ive been torn. I can never forgive him for what he has done but i can accept he is a different person now



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      iamschild
October 2008 | iamschild
Re: Abuse and Forgiveness

Awful to hear, but glad you were able to share.

People don't realise that just as many boys, guys, and men get abused as girls, gals and women. The age doesn't matter. Healing does. It's awesome that you chose to talk about it, and I pray you get all the help you need in healing.

Forgiveness is a choice. Some people chose it, some people don't. Some people think forgiveness means it's okay they did it, but that's not how I take it at all. I believe you can forgive someone and still hold them responcible and accountable. But that's almost it's own article.

In any case, I'm glad you can speak up. Speaking out is one of the first steps to healing, and regardless of your path, healing is what matters.

I Am's child.



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rcp-432
September 2008 | rcp-432
Re: Abuse and Forgiveness
i have been sexually assualted three times and with one he tore me that bad down there i had to have 300 internal stiches and 3 external and an ovary removed i will never forgive them for doing this to me and what makes it worse it happen between the ages of 12-14 years old im a surviver


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      emmie
September 2008 | emmie
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how cruel what a kick in the teeth for you i hope it never made any long term damage i dont think abuse should be forgiven. You are one hell of a survivori hope you are on the road to recovery now . Hugs to you xx



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      iamschild
October 2008 | iamschild
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thank you for sharing... that is aweful. i hope the person got a nice stay in general population- until they sent him to protective custody to save his life! prison justice sometimes has more justice that the justice system. Sad but true. And when it is person's with any kind of authority (cops, judges, lawyers, child protection workers...) they get it even worse than the average child sex offender in jail... Isn't it aweful when justice comes at the hands of criminals...

Yet, I knew a lady who was raped, and a friend beat the guy so badly he died. Her friend is still in jail, and she was glad he cared, but it didn't help her heal...

 



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exquisite-flower
September 2008 | exquisite-flower
Re: Abuse and Forgiveness

Well written Emz, I agree that forgiveness is not essential to the moving on process, but often it is a part of the journey of moving on and it comes at different times for each of us depending on how we do with getting past the hurt we have had to deal with. 
About a month ago E decided to forgive her father for whatever it was that put her off him in the first place.  She understands that by forgiving him she is not required to like him or want to see him/spend time with him.  But she needed to essentially forget about him, and by forgiving him she has let go of that resentment towards him that was holding her back.  It took her three years to achieve, and there is still a distance to go before she will be happy to spend time with him - if that is what they ever want to do.  My thought is that at least now she does not feel ill each time the thought of him pops into her head.  Now he is just any old person that she knows.  There is no hold over her any more hurting her and possibly ruining her life (something that I had worried might happen if she harboured a deep resentment of him into the future - but equally something that I could do nothing about until she was ready) she is now free and it shows.
Peace
EF.x



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nabutters
August 2008 | nabutters
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hey emz, this advice hit home with me. I was abused by my father for a long time. It took me a long time to realize that what he had done wasnt my fault and it has now been 7 yrs coming that i have had nothing to do with this man that was once called my father. He striped me of what should have been a happy childhood. Something that i try to come to terms with everyday. I dont forgive him and i never will. I know that sounds bitter but how can i forgive a man that took so much away from me that i will NEVER get back. ???He also took being a grandfather away from my children,something they wont ever know,as they will never experience having a grandfather. I wont let that man near my children which has been a hard thing to have my kids understand,the understanding has had to come with age.

ohhh so much to tell!!! But i thank you for your advice as i thought i was wrong for never wanting to forgive .....

love na xxx



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      emmie
August 2008 | emmie
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Hey Na ,

Its not bitter its just that you no longer trust him how can you forgive someone tou dont trust? you cant!! Abuse is wrong and if you ask me abusers dont deserve forgiveness . For me it was a matter of i had kylie living with me i couldent take the chance of her ever getting hurt so i stopped it before it happened . Although i told my mother many times she never believed me and chose him over me. I lost my whole family my kids will never get the chance to know my childhood parents . Kylie saw her at the hospital when my nan was sick and i kept her as far away from her as poss and madde sure he was nowhere near her chloe i didnt leet her go no way are they hurting my babies . Kylie asks questions now she asks why my mummy doesent like me? I just told her she isnt a very nice lady. and recently kyle has been pretending to be auntie alicia (my sister) it breaksmy heart because its all because of him . Dont ever think you are wrong for not wanting to forgive there is no point in standing in saying yes i forgive him for the hurt he has caused because you dont truely mean it so it will help nobody but your abuser and that doesent help you. If you ever wanna chat you know where i am xxxx



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cher-lo
June 2008 | cher-lo
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 hello emmie, i myself was abused when i was younger, so understand your pain. i forgot about it all, until i had my son, then it all came flooding back. i was a total wreck, but i got counseling, which helped a lot,as it allowed me to express my anger, aswell as letting me know i wasn't to blame, which was a hugh relief, as i felt it was my fault. As i became older i realised that i had anger issues, and was very defensive towards people, quick to fight and argue for my rights. through the counseling, i came to understand that it was because i was still carrying around that abuse with me everyday, everything that people did to me that hurt seemed like the abuse all over again. i couldn,t live like that anymore, but didn't know what to do until someone told me i had to forgive my abuser, WHAT! FORGIVE! Yeah, forgive, it doesn't mean that you let that person of the hook, far from it, but you let go of that ball of destructive energy that you've kept inside because it will poison you, and cause you to become ill. it will limit you're life and stop you from reaching your goals. you didn't deserve that abuse, you father is a sick man and may have been abused himself, don't allow him to still have control over you, and he does when you don't forgive. abuse is about power, and he still has the power over you, because he's still affecting you even though you've moved miles away. that unforgiveness will cause you to continue to feel pain and anger and him. forgiveness is for your peace of mind, for your wellbeing. it hurts more i know that nobody believed you, but i believe that you are a strong courageous woman and that if you will take the focus and energy of off them and start loving and taking care of youself, you'll find that you will be able to let it go. also pray and ask god to help you to forgive, but waht you need to know, is that YOU choose whether to forgive or not. sometimes we don't know how to, but if you really want to start living free from abuse, start searching how to forgive. i promise you, you will not be the same, then you will be able to help others through their hurts and pains. good luck with starting to invest all your energy into yourself to  become a beautiful woman. that would be the greatest revenge on them. XXXXX from loren



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      emmie
June 2008 | emmie
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Hi Loren,

Never think that it was your fault or that you were to blame the only one that is to blame is the abuser never YOU.You didnt do anything wrong your abuser was in the wrong.

 



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      emmie
June 2008 | emmie
Re: Abuse and Forgiveness

Hi Loren,

Never think that it was your fault or that you were to blame the only one that is to blame is the abuser never YOU.You didnt do anything wrong your abuser was in the wrong.

Apparantly according to the councellor i havent ever dealt with and got over this i have just put it tp the back of my mind and it may and often does come back tyop haunt you . She told me i have to forgive all these people that have hurt me and done me wrong including my recent miscariage otherwise i wont deal with it i dont have to mean it but i need to say it but i cant do that i dont forgive and i dont thinmk i ever will .

To forgive i accept what they have done and i dont my step father is dirt and revenge is sweet and i know for sure what cxomes round goes round . If i forgive i think its ok and i dont its wrong its very wrong aand i wont ever forgive him for everything he has done im not scared of him anymore he conmes anywhere near me or my family i will take him apart he has no hold over me.

I deleted him from my lifer years ago he is scum and he is now getting ewhat a deserves a painful death al i have to asay is good . Good ridence to the piece of crap.



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DNfrmTexas
June 2008 | DNfrmTexas
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I can feel your hurt and your pain.  I share some of it with you.  My abuser was never called on it and to this day he wants every thing to be as if nothing ever happened.  I can't.  God has forgiven me but I can't seem to do it and mean it.  I would love for it to have not happened and I would have to carry the baggage around all of these years (about 40) and through 4 marriages because I had to leave when I didn't feel that they loved me.  Herein lies the problem.  I am emotionally scarred by what happened and through the unconditional love of one lady do I even see hope of a "normal" relationship.  I  pray for a miracle every day and hope for one even more often but it hasn't happened yet.  I am so tired of dragging this issue behind me.  I would appreciate any words of wisdom of "HOW TO" by someone who has been there.  Good luck and God bless us all.



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      emmie
June 2008 | emmie
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You dont need to forgive. You can forgive and not mean it too that is fine but you also need to learn to deal with it . You need to see what your abuser did to you was wrong but never ever your fault . Its a long hard road but you can do it. You only have to accept not forgive they in my opinion dont deserve forgiveness. Your abuser cant hurt you now you are a survivor abusers love power dont let them gain that you keep all control o wish u al thwe best xx



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Elizabeth23
May 2008 | Elizabeth23
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Wow this has open up my eyes... Now I believe I can finally tell some1..

Thanks



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      emmie
June 2008 | emmie
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PLEASE do its the best thing you can do for yourself you can over ride your abusers power.



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miz4mum
April 2008 | miz4mum
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Well he definitely DID NOT destroy you! You sound like a fiercely strong and independent woman who has risen above the cruel blow she was dealt. More power to you - like a beautiful Phoenix arising from the ashes of what was - you are so deserving of all the BEAUTIFUL things this life has to offer, and it sounds like you have been blessd with the love and support you have always deserved.

God Bless You and Your Family



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      emmie
June 2008 | emmie
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I will destroy him before he destroys mei am stronger than him now . I dont believe in forgivemess forgiveness is for smakll things abuse is unforgiveable . i hope he rots iin hell. My kids will never havew the childhood i had they deserve much more , They are the most precious things.



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ldybgsgma99
April 2008 | ldybgsgma99
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Well done Emz.  I commend you for being able to talk about what has happened to you and I don't blame you in the least for not forgiving.  I don't think he deserves your forgiveness.  Very nicely written.



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      emmie
June 2008 | emmie
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I think writting about it is a great healer. I wont ever forgive i hope he rots in hell for everything he done too my family.



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MrsSanders
April 2008 | MrsSanders
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HI Emmie, well done you for sharing. I cannot begin to imagine what life was like for you and others who have faced similar ordeals. I also would never presume to tell anyone to forgive such evil acts of toture. I do often wonder though if the preassure by those who have not walked your path, to tell you all to seek to forgive, comes as a way to salve societies conscience. Just a thought.

Luv,Winnie.xxxx



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Queen-Fire
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | Queen-Fire
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I was abused but not by my dad or even stepdad it was by a person i thought was my friend and ever since that night i havent been able to go back to Umpiring i havent forgivven him and i didnt tell ne1 for bout a year.

I dont think i could feel the pain u do Emmie But i agree with you i Probably could ever Forgive him.



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | emmie
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Hi ,

It is ju7st as bad when it is your friend its someone you once trusted and they took that away from you. I think some people can find it in them to forgive and i respect they can do that buti just cant what he did was wrong and sick i will never forgive he was supposed to be my dad at the time

Luv Emz xxx



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           Queen-Fire
April 2008 | Queen-Fire
Re: Abuse and Forgiveness

Thanks Emz

I really dont no if i could go back and face him ever I know my bf wants to kill him for wat he did to me and my bf never met the guy. I was surprised that a post like this was on here.

The 1st time i saw i ignored it but it kept jumping out to me so eventually i had to write something about my experiences. Thank god people dont seem to judge you on here for what u have been thru.

I hope more People come here to talk bout their experiences.

Luv Queenie xxx



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AngelWitch
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | AngelWitch
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hey emmie, totally understand how you feel, i too was sexually abused and will never forgive my stepfather (he is still alive, but to be honest cannot wait til he dies as i know he will go to hell) but yeah i will never ever forgive what he has done, no one can, angel blessings to you and your family darl



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | emmie
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Hey Angelwitch,

Sorry that made me chuckle will never forgive my stepfather (he is still alive, but to be honest cannot wait til he dies as i know he will go to hell) simply because i recently found out from his daughter he is slowly and painfully dying i cant wait til he does i will dance on his grave its cruel but what he did was cruel . Thanks so much for your comment

Luv Emz xxx



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grannieofone
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | grannieofone
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After 30 years my so called dad still can't see why I hate him so much.



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | emmie
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wow 30 years your a true survivor . i hate my step dad too i think if i was too see him again i would kill him



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hayesatlbch
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | hayesatlbch
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I have considered forgiving my step father but he has only been dead for 36 years.



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | emmie
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omg over 36 years man how do u do it i dont think i could still forgive if he was dead though he still done wrong .



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momof8gr8kids
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | momof8gr8kids
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Wow Emmie, I am so sorry that you had to endure all that pain. I was sexually abused by my grandmother's brother when I was just a young girl. When I was finally able to break down and tell my mother what happened, she pulled the car over to the side of the road and cried with me. It was such a weight lifted off my shoulders just talking about it, but it didn't solve the issue of him abusing me. My mother asked me not to say anything to my grandmother, she was worried what it would do to her. I became a difficult teenager because I felt betrayed and hurt, one day my grandmother said something very mean to me and well my mouth opened and I spewed out that her brother had abused me. She didn't say a word, she just turned around and walked away. Later I found out she had written to him about what I told her, and denied everything, to the day he died he said he didn't do anything.

Before he died, my grandmother told me he was dying of lung cancer, all I could say was I'm sorry for you. In a way, I did find some forgiveness for him, because I knew that he was dying of a really bad illness, and deep down in side me, I was laughing at him, because he was dying and was going to have to answer to a higher power for what he did to me.

Thank you for sharing Emmie, it is all part of learning how to heal and move on with your life, knowing that you are a better person, and knowing that you know the correct way to love those around you, with a hug and not a fist. You go girl!!!



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | emmie
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Wow thanks so much for sharing that with me . I told my mother of my abuse in with police in the front of the car us in the back she told me to shut up and she never believed me . He said he didnt do it so of course i was just the kid. She asked me why i told her she let me down , fair enough the abuse stopped for a few weeks i thought it was all over but he couldent resist in the end i went to the police and gave my side he was arrested on bail but 2 months later released due to lack of evidence he cleared the camcorda and my sister lied for him i never had a leg to stand on.

Its funny you say that a week or so agpo my step sister told me the alcohol is finally killing him slowly and painful i feel sorry for him of course i do but i am laughing this is exactly what he deserves and i hope its ripping him apart like he ripped my family apart

Thanks so mucxh for your comment

Luv Emz xxx



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | emmie
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Wow thanks so much for sharing that with me . I told my mother of my abuse in with police in the front of the car us in the back she told me to shut up and she never believed me . He said he didnt do it so of course i was just the kid. She asked me why i told her she let me down , fair enough the abuse stopped for a few weeks i thought it was all over but he couldent resist in the end i went to the police and gave my side he was arrested on bail but 2 months later released due to lack of evidence he cleared the camcorda and my sister lied for him i never had a leg to stand on.

Its funny you say that a week or so agpo my step sister told me the alcohol is finally killing him slowly and painful i feel sorry for him of course i do but i am laughing this is exactly what he deserves and i hope its ripping him apart like he ripped my family apart

Thanks so mucxh for your comment

Luv Emz xxx



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janicepovey
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | janicepovey
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Wow Emmie, you have come such a long way, since i first meet you. I'm so proud of you, my dear friend....well done.

Love (Mum) Janice xxxxx



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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my special janice mum thanks sweetie but i would not have done ti without you thanks for being there janice xxxx


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belinda03
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | belinda03
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thanks for sharing that with us em . and you can never forgive .. as you know what i went through and my parents dont believe me he gets everything his way

chat too you soon

love bel xx



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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ur right forgiveness cant b given why make them feel we dont think they are wrong cos it is very wrong

cheers hunni xxxx



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toosh
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | toosh
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Wow Emz, I am so proud of you for writing this! It must have been hard & I know some people won't agree with you but I do - to forgive would be like saying it was ok to do what was done to you! I have not been abused as such, but I watched my mum get beaten every single day & myself get in trouble for everything my little brother did wrong (from his father) & I will never forgive or forget. But he has gotten some of his own back in a way - he has a wife that will hit back if he does hit her, he has depression (which started when he was a cop - yes a cop did this), and is slightly incontinent! The world has it's ways!

Mwah

Teshia xxoo



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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your dead right not everybody will agree with this but its what i believe others sorry u had to watch that there are some real sick people in this world

cheeers hunni xx



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hermy
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | hermy
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i am so sorry you have been put through this emmie.......i know that i will always believe my children if they ever told me that something like this was happening......well done in writing this emz.....regards Sandra xxx


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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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i would believe my children too

thanks sandra xxx



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | nell18-3
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I know I will have to find my way through this whole topic one day
Right here right now I am nowhere near ready to forgive, after all he is still continuing to hurt me in others ways
People tell me I will need to forgive as part of my own healing
But we'll see
At the moment it doesnt bother me that i cant forgive him and I would never forgive him just so that he can feel better!!!!!
Thanks for your honesty in this
xxx


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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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hey nell,

Only u can decide wheather to forgive its YOU this person has destroyed so much i was told if u cant forgive u cant get on with ur life well i dont believe tjhat and wont b forced into it

thanks nell xxx



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lonely28
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | lonely28
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Hey emz,
                great article hunni.... and you already know my feelings on all of this. I chose to not forgive my ex as such but forgive the act that he did. I found peace with what was done by accepting it was not my fault, I did nothing to deserve any of it. We all have different ways of coping and moving on with life. Forgiveness is one of the hardest things to do and not many people can do it. As I said, I found it easier to accept what happened for what it was.......... something out of my control.

love ya goregous girl,

fi xoxo


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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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that s so true everyone has their own way of dealing with it , and forgiveness is not my way im glad that yu too have got on wit ur life after ur abuse

love ya longtime xxx



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mariamum
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | mariamum
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Beautifully written sweetie.  I don't need to say how I feel because you already know I agree with you on this subject.   You know the hardest things for a lot of victims is that the person who did these things to them don't get punished and that is what really makes me angry because the victim is left with the scars for life and what people don't realise is how much this has an effect on them. 

love Maria xxxxxxxxxx



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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hey hunni ,

u roo know how i feel about this as we have been talking about it the lst few days but u r a strong person and dont u forget tit sweetoe

lov e ya xxxxx



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cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | cazza
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Thank you for sharing this with us, and how hard it would have being typing this...I know when i done the articles on foster care. and then how i became ward of the state how the tears ran down my face...

I see my egg donor every wednesday at our local shops and she after 17 years stiil calls me foul names, and i look at her with disgust..... As i will never forgive her, but i now that she cant hurt me no more, and there is no way in this world will she have contact with my children....But as we grow and we raise our children we neeed to leave those that hurt us in the past and look at the future of our kids, and no that we will be better parents and not treat our kids the same,....

Please take care. and know that we are all here for you, and Minti is family to most of us, and bugger the rest of the world...

take care
love cazza


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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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thanks cazza ur right my minti family are much more beetter and they believe me too all we cna do now is love and protct our families from people like my step father

cheers hun xxx



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Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | Kellzacar
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Hi Em,

Great article matey  - I sadly am unable to forgive my mother for her abuse towards me. The older i get and the more my own children grow the harder it makes for me to understand why she did the things she did. . . .  The abuse is something i feel that I will never be able to forgive!

However upon saying that I have accepted her choices and accepted that the things she did were her choices and her  mistakes . NOT MINE . . . .  This is how I was able to move on! ! !

Recently my "egg donor" moved thin a few suburbs of me for the first time in 20 years. At first I was confused and worried BUT now I have accepted she is there and this has helped me to cope. My only fear is of what i may do if she tries to see my children, this is something i will not allow as other family members have told me that she has NOT changed . .

Cheers Kellz


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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
Re: abuse and forgiveness

thank you for sharing that with me  kellz like u say the older u get the more the questions u ask urself

cheers xxx



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AZMom
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | AZMom
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Great article Emz, straight from the heart!

I think there is a distinction between acceptance (to move on) and forgiveness. After enduring something like this I do not blame you for not forgiving... karma will come their way I am sure. I know it is hard, but try not to ask why.. I am sure in most cases it comes down to power... because he could!  I am just so pleased you got out of it alive and well!

Thanks for sharing, it could not have been easy!

Lorna x



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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sometimes u have to think of ur own safety and ge t out i know by doing so i was leaving my sister alone and i ran nand never looked back i know if he ever sees me again he would proberly kill me he is 1 of those who believs in revenge wen something hits him in the face revenge is the first thing he thinks of but im never gonna live that day #

cheers hun xxx



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mumof2b
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | mumof2b
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You know what Emz..........no-one can tell another person how to heal or how to move on with their life. You have been hurt terribly in the past and it's your choice not to forgive. Some people need to forgive either themselves for not being able to do anything about it, a parent for not stopping it or the abuser for doing it in able to move on..........some people just deal with it and move on....end of story. We all different and deal with things in our own way. you have a way that works for you and that's all that matters.

Big hugs to you and your beautiful girls.......

P.S. Where's the photos from the beach.....I'm dying to see some sun and surf........

Amanda xxxxx



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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tahnks hun i totally agree everyone delasls with things like this differant but i found my way and wont be told i should have done differantly it was MY CHOICE 

photos  we aparantly never had time to go get it so not fair but we are off to the park in a bit so i will take some pics there and put in ur lounge

cheers hunni xxx



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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i agree with absolutly everything u have said there i was told to get over such an abuse i had to forgive well do i believe this well to be hones t thats a big juicy NO i will never forgive that perve he ruined my life and took my sisters like u said all they deserve i s a slow torture and i could quite happily and watch that may be evil but so is he and its what he deserves

cheers xx



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mumof10
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | mumof10
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Wow Emmie, I read with tears in my eyes.I was not abused as such in the way some have been. My dad was an alcoholic and used to abuse my mum. I witnessed this abuse for years. I was putting up with it, until i got older i had had enough of the abuse and smashing of glasses and ashtrays being thrown at my mum almost every night. As i got older i believed this is not the way a wife should be treated or his children for that matter. i as a child suffered emotional abuse as they call it now. This went on for years until  us kids got older and my mum got wiser. Mum would never stand up to him but one day she shocked me and threw something back at him and got him a beauty lol lol. They seperated when we all had left home well i still lived there until he moved out as mum was afraid. I had a daughter to think of so when he moved out i did too. Mum and dad still kind of talked but they never moved back together. Dad got sick and ended up in a nursing home for the rest of his days. When i lived at home myself and dad had had heaps of fights i did hit him too as he threatened to stab me in the stomach when pregnant with my eldest daughter. When dad got really sick and needed anything guess what he would ring me not my brother or sister. I guess in a way i did forgive my dad as near the end like i said he would be there always. When he ended up in hospital after having a stroke etc.... the only person he was able to remember was myself my children and my husband. He did not remember any other family members. He kept telling everyone he wanted to come to my place as he always treated my children good. He never made it to my houe as he passed away. Thois may sound horrible to some but when dad was cremated and we got his ashes i lept mine and they hold a place in my house and in the hearts of my children. All other ashes were thrown out to sea. My eldest daughter went to this ceremony as they called it they forced her to touch the ashes and throw them out to sea. She was so upset it was not funny. I forgave in a way for what my dad did but it still is inside what he did over the years. I did love my dad don't get me wrong but what he did was uncalled for.
So i also believe when a child tells you something is wrong believe them. There are so many children outthere now that are being abused and no-one is listening to them. Great advice Emmie. Hugs Michelle


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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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thank you for sharing that michelle it is good u were able to forgive and i rrerspect everyone that has found it in theirself to forgive as long a s the word is used correctly and i know what ur aying wit the emotional abuse i watched my sisters being beat and raped and its not a nice situation 2 b in my mum and step dad were abd still are alcoholics i told my mum so many times but i was told to stop lying but now all i can do is protect my children from monsters like this and i think ore children being hurt out there should b heard

cheers hun xxxxxx



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Deborahsc2203
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | Deborahsc2203
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i will never forgive either as in my way forgivness is a pardon for what they have done to me and have gotten away with ,, with me saying i forgive you will be just another thing they will be able to sleep at night with ,, it wont change the fact with what was also done to me as an innocent child either ,,

what works for some dosent work for others and its not always as simple as saying mum dad i forgive you for all the abuse that you have put me through from the day i was born , that wont take my pain away but will help them , not eveyone deserves to be forgived

in turn i will have a great life as best as i can and love and protect my children from monsters like that



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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Hey deb,

I totally agree with u it makes them feel better not us they made our lifes hell for years and thats not right therefore i dont think they should be given

 



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           emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
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ok now computer getting tired hehe anyhow i dont think they should get forgiveness as that would mean we think its ok and itsnot ok bu5 all we can do now is protect and love and cherish our children that we have got ourselfs and stop this ever repeating on them

thanks xx



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merlin0903
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | merlin0903
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wow emmie,

i am so sorry for all the pain and emotions that you have had to go through, like i have said forgiveness is a very strong word and not to be used unless you really believe you are able to,  if anything like this had ever happened to me or someone close to me i wouldn't let them cause i feel by doing that you are telling the person that you are ok with what they have done to you, when you are NOT.  

thank you for sharing your story with us i know that must have been hard to write, if i had a magic wand i would heal your pain, but i don't so the next best think that i can do for you is give you a really big hug

hugs and kisses



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      emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | August 2007 | emmie
Re: abuse and forgiveness
thats right u dont forgive unless u actually mean it forgiveness is a very strong word and very powerful and should not b used unless meant cheers hunni xx


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