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They should teach that in schools...

LibbyS by LibbyS Talking(October 2007) (rank 77th)

  When driving home today, I heard a piece on the radio about stress in school students. The piece was on a study done by the University of Melbourne, and it (rightly) said that both high school and primary students regularly suffered from stress, and a reasonable proportion (20 –

30%) had difficulty controlling emotions and dealing with things like pressure from themselves, parents, teachers to do well. Social issues, disputes between friends and family issues – that is, normal teenage stuff – just compounded the problem. The study highlighted that children didn’t have the tools to deal with these emotions, and that stress management should be taught in schools.  

I certainly agree with the findings about stress levels of kids. As a teacher, I see kids every day who are stressed about a multitude of things, and often all at the same time. Many students don’t have the skills to manage stresses, and they certainly need to learn ways to control these.  

However, as good as this idea seems, I would like to draw attention to a few things. Teachers are expected to do things by many people (not that this in itself is a problem). State politicians, federal politicians, parents, community members like those from the medical profession, police, institutions with which schools are affiliated such as churches and wider community members all have expectations of what should be taught in schools, how often, in what manner and by whom. Like I said, this in itself is not a problem – schools are educating our most precious resource, of course many should have a say in what goes on.    

It seems whenever there is a problem in society, often the way to fix it seems to be to do an education program in schools. Schools are expected to teach students about sun safety, road safety, healthy eating, time management, healthy exercise habits, drugs and alcohol harm minimisation, financial management, safe and defensive driving procedures, safe conduct at Schoolies Week, reproductive health, citizenship, preventing STDs and unplanned pregnancy and a multitude of other things, depending on who’s in government or what study has just been completed. Many schools have developed relationship building programs in response to requests from parents.  

Both State and Federal governments make regulations as to how many hours must be spent in the classroom or doing particular activities such as literacy or Languages Other Than English. The sector with which the school is affiliated (eg state education department, church body etc) also specifies requirements.  

Whilst I am not for a moment saying that these things are unimportant or that they shouldn’t be addressed, I would like to ask – what is the purpose of schooling?  

Every moment of class time spent on healthy eating, or on a visit from a guest speaker about road safety, or teaching children about emotional health is a moment which is not spent on something else. And the things which get pushed aside? Less time on maths. Less time on spelling. Less time on history. Less time on grammar. Less time on PE. Less time on languages. Less time on the stuff which kids are suppose to go to school for – learning school stuff.  

I get very frustrated when the same people who call for all this extra stuff to be done in schools are the same people who decry that our children can’t spell or do maths.  

There are only so many minutes in a school day, only so many days in the year, and only so many years in a student’s school life. By all means, advocate for what you think is important to be taught in schools. However, remember that for every new thing which is added, something else is pushed out of the way. So, don’t just ask yourself is something is important enough to be taught in school. Ask yourself – is this important enough to make something else get left out?

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markn
February 2009 | markn
Re: They should teach that in schools...

Hi Libby,

This is a great article I fully agree, lets get back to the basiscs of teaching the core subjects by teachers and have other life skills tought by parents.

I think the problem goes very much further and you could write a 1000 page book on it, but in a nutshell; most families have both parents working these days just to make ends meets for various reasons ie Cost of living, wanting everything now House fully furnshed, nice cars, holidays etc. So who is there to instill other life lessons when both parents are cought up in rushing kids to and from school/daycare getting to work on time, organising baths, dinner etc before you know bed time and oh look the alarm is going of  again.

I fully understand every one has completely different expectation of the lifestyle they would like to leed and how much they would like to earn, own etc. But what happened to the days of just having kids because you truly want them and make all the sacrifices that come with it, not just have have one to make others happy, satisfie grandparents or in some cases for the enormous government handouts, and then have others, like yourself raise them in all thing life.

When are parents and politicians going to come back to reality and let schools teach the cerriculum and parents teach life. My wife has not worked for the past 10 years and we have lived on a moderate single income for that time and made do, and in most parts been there to instill life lessons.

If the politicians want to look at fixing this why not spend resources on after school educational programs for specific issues that need to be adressed ie all the education programs you have listed.

I believe the world is getting to fast paced and parenting is becoming a bit like, get them out of bed, breakfast, brush teeth, dressed of to school, pick them up, homework, dinner, brush teeth, bed every thing inbetween is up to someone else.

Good article

 



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joshuadaniel
February 2009 | joshuadaniel
Re: They should teach that in schools...

I agree with you, school should be left for school things, life lessons should be taught by the parents and learnt through actively living life. Maths and English should be taught by teachers and if the children are having problems dealing with stress then thats when a school councellor should step in to teach the steps needed to handle the stress. Also parents need to play an active part in their childrens lives. If your child is stressed then are you going to leave it up to some one else to help them, I would like to think that most parents would prefer to help their children themselves.



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knobby37
February 2009 | knobby37
Re: They should teach that in schools...

It's most peoples perception that school is where you learn everything. I agree, our children can't be taught everything at school - it's a tough one maybe a balance between making our children aware of stress and ways to deal with it  from home and school could be an option as stress is a major factor in today's society in every aspect.



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josierm
February 2009 | josierm
Re: They should teach that in schools...

Excellent article and eye opening.  Isn't it the job of parents to teach those extra things?  Perhaps parents need a curriculum of subjects to teach at home.- homework for mums and dads???



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Carolynk
February 2009 | Carolynk
Re: They should teach that in schools...

As a teacher I also agree there is only so many hours ina school day.May be it could be a topic for ongoing discussion at meal times.



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ravanzee
January 2009 | ravanzee
Re: They should teach that in schools...

I absolutely agree with you! There are things that the parents should be teaching their children, so that teachers can teach what they are there to learn!



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sarah237
January 2009 | sarah237
Re: They should teach that in schools...

Very good article !



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KritieHopkins
January 2009 | KritieHopkins
Re: They should teach that in schools...

There needs to be more responsibility put back on parents, teachers are there to educate yes but some things need to come from home, as u say there is only so many minutes in a school day - it is starting to get ridiculous how much ppl expect out of that - parents need to take responsibility for their children and teach some of these things themselves so that teachers can concentrate on what they originally are supposed to do - teach subjects not how to live



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Mary-Anne
January 2009 | Mary-Anne
Re: They should teach that in schools...

Teachers need to be left to the task of teaching.

Sometimes I think that the media makes such a big deal out of what needs to be taught to children, ie stranger danger, and those mentioned in your article, there is sooo much out there that has the potential to do harm, it is scary and over whelming for parents, teachers and children. Being afraid backs us into a corner and prevents us from getting on with the task at hand, raising HAPPY KIDS.  I guess what I am saying is lets not live our life in fear pointing fingers at who has to do what and focus on our kids, kids need time to be kids, all kids are naturally curious beings and tend to want to learn, they want time with their parents, family and friends, they want and thrive on attention.



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peace613
January 2009 | peace613
Re: They should teach that in schools...

Some programs could be done at home but most parents are too busy to read a booklet or watch a video with a child.  There is so much that children need to learn.  In teaching my son there are so many subjects that I want to add.  He wants to learn how to play the guitar, he needs character education, math is a must, he has to learn as you said time managment, how to talk to people, and the list goes on.  There are the main subjects and those that have to be learned in everyday life. 

You have to teach a child in the school system everything that they will need to know how to be a great productive citizen because not all parents know how to be great citizens.  In turn when these children grow up they will teach their children.

Thanks for the advice



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dtoombs
January 2009 | dtoombs
Re: They should teach that in schools...

As a fellow teacher I heartily agree with your comments. More & more is being considered the responsibility of schools, when it used to be that of the parents. In some schools this even extends to giving kids breakfast! However schools don't necessarily need to limit themselves to standard school subjects, especially in the primary school grades. One important example is in the case of children from abusive backgrounds. If schools can show them very early on that that type of background is not the norm, then there is a chance that that child won't grow up to be abusive too. On the other hand, for some types of learning, waiting until the child is in school could be too late. No matter what schools do, there is no replacement for the kinds of things parents should teach their child, for example good manners, social skills, and so on. And no matter how much we teach about good nutrition, it doesn't help if the parents aren't providing it!



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pavementcracks70
June 2008 | pavementcracks70
Re: They should teach that in schools...

good point, i agree that the basic lessons should always come first and not cut down in size to allow for new subjects.....keep the kids at school longer hehehe ...if not enough time in the day!

noticed your math site for kids however under construction, will revisit another time....keep up the good work, rue



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      LibbyS
August 2008 | LibbyS
Re: They should teach that in schools...

Hey, thanks for your comments. And I know, there's a few glitches on my website - I'm just trying to find the time to get around to it!



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kseers
June 2008 | kseers
Re: They should teach that in schools...

Great point - and something I'd never thought of.  My question is - shouldn't parents be teaching these things to their children?  Maybe it is us parents who need the education?  Or maybe there should be more support so more parents can spend more time with their children and not have to be working multiple jobs to survive.  Good questions, no easy answers.  Like the article!



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Kellzacar
4.68 (Excellent) | October 2007 | Kellzacar
Re: They should teach that in schools...
GREAT article . .

Personally I think things should go back to old ways . . . The old teaching was often the best and the old rules etc worked well. Then along came the politicians and the other groups and their opinions and our education system began to buckle.

Bring back the assemblies every morning and the singing of our national anthem, bring back the old ways of teaching reading, writing and arithmetics. . . . .

Cheers Kellz


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KathrynR1402
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | KathrynR1402
Re: They should teach that in schools...

good article. They just did the same kind of survey in the UK, see link.

The ironic thing is, I expect plenty of parents ARE teaching their kids these things. Its the struggling families where the kids wont get taught these useful lifeskills anywhere else coz the parents are too busy/under equipped to teach what used to be seen as their role to teach. How to fill the gap....? Its not fair on overworked teachers, but without your hard work, society would be even worse wouldnt it? Raise the status of teachers! Sometimes I think universal parenting classes would be good and then I think "too nanny state!" My head hurts!



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Ngairi
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | Ngairi
Re: They should teach that in schools...
When will teaching get back to teaching the basics of reading, writing and arithmetic? I am appalled at the amount of things that teachers are expected to cram into a week with students in primary school. There are so many kids getting through the system without being able to do the basics and they can slip through. When my oldest started school and had to have a calculator for Year 1, my mouth dropped.

Things that we learned in Year 8 are now being taught in Year 6, and they are expecting them to cope. I don't think so.


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      Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | Kellzacar
Re: They should teach that in schools...
I was one of those horrible mums who refuse to allow my daughter to use a calculator at this age . .

BAD ME - Nope, interestingly my daughter now in grade 2 can add without a calculator sadly her classmates all reach for theirs.


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           Ngairi
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | Ngairi
Re: They should teach that in schools...
You are right it is sad. I will always remember when I went to Big W one day and they had blackouts. I was buying 2 things, and the registers were not working. My two items were $2.50 and $1.50. The girl at the register had to add it up 4 times to get the correct answer of $4.00. And that was with a calculator.
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cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | cazza
Re: They should teach that in schools...
 education doesnt and shouldnt start at school, and too many parents put the pressure on the teachers, and dont realise that they have families to go home to at the end of the day,,, and i also think the government should run programs to educate parents on safety issues, and help them understand that their child needs their education skills as well as the teachers.

i also think that too many parents pass the buck and dont care... and its wrong, as we are there educators and should as parents be the ones that help them through their education...

Will be very Interesting to see where and what sort of package deal this up coming elections comes up wth for our childrens education..

Because the politicians and parents need to recognise that Teachers are humanas well, and just want our children to have the best education they deserve and go out to that big wide world and achieve there dreams...

take care
love cazza


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winja
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | winja
Re: They should teach that in schools...
i agree that too much stress is put on children these days and as a result they suffer in the long run, i do think some of the extras that you have pointed out take time away from regular schooling but often children need to be taught these things and their parents just are not educating them at home, a child taught road safety yes may miss out on some time learning math but will be less likely to be hit by a car, when weighing it up would you rather that your child knew how to protect themselves or measure the distance they will roll when the car hits them? i think balance is what you are talking about balancing the amount of time spent on educational programs about safety.
i think that it would be an even better option if parents were given the option to learn ways to teach their kids these important safety tips so they could teach them at home and take less time away from regular schooling.
a thought provoking article keep up the good work!


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      LibbyS
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | LibbyS
Re: They should teach that in schools...

You're right - I'm not saying that road safety or anything else isn't important. I am just making people aware that everything is a trade off. A lot of the time the trade off it worth it - but a lot of the time it isn't.

Like I said, I get so frustrated when shows like Today Tonight say that kids can't spell/ read/ count and how schools are to blame, but at the same time we're expected to do all these other things.

I think a lot of the time, the first thing that people think of is 'they should teach that in schools'. I'm asking people to at least think about the implications of this plan of action. It often seems to be the first - and only - approcah to an issue, and I think that we need to look wider when educating our children about these things. I don' t think many people realise the pressure that this approach puts on students' time.



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