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PTSD - Part 5

DarkenedAngel by DarkenedAngel Talking Back(October 2007) (rank 68th)

Off and on for 18 years, I asked doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, mental health workers, counselors, and therapists, "What is wrong with me? What is happening to me?" The answers I received were many and varied in wording, but all boiled down to one thing: "You have classic symptoms of

PTSD, but you can't possibly have that because you aren't a Vietnam Veteran, so we don't know what could possibly be wrong with you." Then they would attempt to diagnose me with almost every other mental illness in the book.

Every mental illness is complex and difficult to diagnose. So many have such similar symptoms that a misdiagnosis can be easy to make. It certainly doesn't help when the sufferer isn't willing to be truthful and open with everything, or has read up on a certain mental illness and thinks that  is what they have so tend to give out "symptoms" according only to that condition - much like a hypercondriac worries that every little ache and oddity might be cancer or the like. I've even heard of people deliberately lying to their doctors because of the stigma attached to mental illness, so they pretend that everything is fine when in reality - well - some probably need to spend a long time locked in a psych ward!

So when you don't presume your condition and you are open and honest with everything, to have professionals repeatedly tell you that you can't have a certain condition - even though everything points to it - just because you aren't of a certain class of people, it becomes nothing short of infuriating.

Imagine that you keep getting told for many years that you can't have something you need just because you aren't of Aboriginal decent. It would be very easy to start feeling bitterness and resentment towards everyone that was of Aboriginal decent because of it. And that is a perfectly normal human reaction. Well, that is exactly how many Aboriginal people actually do feel towards White Australians - though fortunately the gaps are closing and the problem isn't as bad as it used to be. When you look at it from the other side of the fence and you find yourself in a postion where you have been discriminated against for one reason or another, it suddenly becomes very easy to understand.

So in explaining this much, I can now safely go on to admit that for many years I felt that bitterness and resentment towards Vietnam Veterans. It wasn't their fault at all in any way obviously, in the same way that it's not my fault that the governments and authorities of previous generations wouldn't allow Aboriginal peoples to have equal rights and fair treatment. But as I said, it's a normal human reaction to feel that way, and I can't blame anyone that does.

Vietnam Veterans have had it very hard. Many didn't have a choice in going to Vietnam as they were conscripted and sent off against their will. Had my brother been 18 years old at the time of the conscription he would have been sent off as well, as his birthday was one of the dates that was on the conscription list. Luckily for him the war was over before he was born. Even those that did sign up voluntarily, did so with false ideals as to what it would be like. The promotional hype gave the impression that it was all about peace-keeping and defence of the weak and vulnerable, that it was an exciting adventure, and an opportunity not to be missed. The stories of the ANZACS told of heroics and glory, not of the harsh realities of war. When their ex-serviceman fathers and grandfathers spoke of the real events of World Wars 1 and 2, the stories were often so far from the young soldier's own reality that they just didn't seem real, they were beyond imagination, and it was incomprehensible to them that anything could really happen like that. So off they went to fight a war in a far off land - to find themselves in the midst of worst and most dangerous war in history.

To make matters worse, while they were off fighting and dying in a far off land, the rest of the world forgot about them. People were starting to get colour TV's in their homes - but the news of the events in Vietnam were heavily censored and far from the reality of it. Man landed on the moon and space exploration became far more interesting. People were more interested in women's rights, local sporting events, and other happy things than they were interested in knowing about the war. Eventually when they did start to pay attention, the general public attitude was to withdraw our troops and stop fighting a war that we should never have been involved in in the first place. One would think that was for the benefit of the soldiers, but then once they did return home, it was a whole different story.

There was no compensation. There was no support. No specialised medical or psychiatric treatments. They had no idea what was really going on back home while they were gone and living in a battle zone. They could only believe they were doing the right thing and following orders. Yet the public put the blame for the war on the heads of the soldiers. The now ex-servicemen were shunned and even spat on by the very people that protested that they be brought home. The stories that were most popular among the general public were of the horrors that happened to the civilians at the hands of the soldiers - but in reality, it was the rare soldier that had lost his mind due to the traumas he had suffered that did any of those sorts of things, or the soldiers were just following orders that they couldn't disobey. Also, no one stopped to think about the fact that they were fighting a war in a country where the enemy looked and dressed the same and spoke the same language as the allies, and that women and children were also fighting the war and often used to lure and trap the soldiers into deadly situations. How do you tell the enemy from the allies in that kind of situation? You can't! And if you trust the wrong person, you're dead! We look at this now and wonder what the hell the general public were thinking of when they spat on soldiers returning home. Imagine how the soldiers felt to receive that sort of treatment! Now go back to the resentment problem that I had with Vietnam Veterans. How do you think they feel towards us civilians after being treated this way?

Yes, that was terrible and traumatic for them, but that isn't why so many of them suffer from PTSD.

Imagine yourself in a situation where you have to walk through a jungle filled with land mines. Every step that you - and those near you - take could result in an explosion that could kill you - or worse, injure you so badly that you wish you were dead. You can't go to sleep properly for fear of being ambushed and killed. Every moment at any moment, a bullet could fly through the foliage and hit you. Or someone behind a desk could make a mistake in marking a map or giving directions and you could end up having a bomb or napalm dropped on you from overhead. This isn't something you have to deal with for a few hours. You have to live in these conditions for weeks, even months, on end. But that's not the worst of it.

I was talking to a Vietnam Veteran not long after I was diagnosed with PTSD. I'd explained to him that I had it and how difficult it had been to get diagnosed. He nodded in understanding and then for the first time ever he opened up and told someone that wasn't a Vietnam Veterans counselor - me -something that had happened to him in Vietnam. He fell into a spiked pit trap. That's a camoflagued hole in the ground covered with netting and leaves so as to not be seen, that is deep enough that if you fall in, you hit the bottom pretty hard - and land on sharp long spikes that are sticking up from the bottom of it. Most that fall in die. He didn't. He escaped with a spear through his leg. The only reason why he escaped is because he landed on his best mate - who fell in first.

If reading about these kinds of stories makes you shudder, try listening to it be told to you by the person it actually happened to. Then imagine if that happened to you. Now do you have a better understanding of why so many Vietnam Veterans suffer from PTSD? I do. It was this conversation that made me realise that the very people I was resenting were ones that really could understand and relate to me. The one's that could help me deal with my own problems the best. Now I have nothing less than total respect and admiration for these men that suffered in this way.

When someone sees that I'm a bit tired and they ask me if I had a long night and I answer, "Yeah, about 20 years long", most people look at me strangely, because they have no idea what I mean, even after I've explained I suffer from PTSD. But a Vietnam Veteran just nods. He understands. If you were to ask a Vietnam Veteran when he was in Vietnam, he will likely tell you he's still there. Most people have no idea what he means by that. I do, and I don't need to ask that question because I already know the answer.

I have come across a number of people that have claimed to suffer from PTSD since I first started opening up and talking about it. Some of them I can genuinely believe. Some make me raise an eyebrow and wonder if they have actually been to see a professional about it and had a proper diagnosis - that wasn't misdiagnosed. Mental illness is a very complex issue. You can't diagnose yourself. You need to talk to a professional and get a proper diagnosis. Trauma can also cause other similarly related mental illnesses, including depression, various anxiety disorders, personality disorders, and can make a different underlying mental illness more complex and obvious. You can't assume you have PTSD just because you wake up with nightmares about something that has happened to you, have sleepless nights, suffer the occassional bout of depression, and get nervous about certain things. There is more to it than just that.

If someone tells you that they suffer from PTSD, don't question it, as those that genuinely do suffer from it have probably had so much trouble getting a proper diagnosis that they really don't want to hear your opinion or doubts on the matter. If you want to find out more about how genuine they are, just ask if they are seeing a mental health professional about it. If they are, then they probably have a good reason to claim to have the condition, so leave it at that. If they say they aren't, then you might suggest they see one. If a Vietnam Veteran treats you with distance, resentment, or seems to snob you, don't question it or argue with him. Just accept that he's had a damn hard time and doesn't want to have to put up with another civilian's hostility, false sympathy, or "I know how you feel" bollocks. If you have been formally diagnosed with PTSD, don't be ashamed to talk about it. If you haven't been diagnosed but suspect you may suffer from it, seek professional help - and when you do, don't lie, don't hide anything, don't presume anything, and don't exaggerate anything. There's only one thing worse than not being diagnosed, and that's being misdiagnosed. And if you're not satisfied with your diagnosis, seek out as many professional opinions as it takes to get yourself sorted out.

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cathbusymum
June 12th | cathbusymum
Re: PTSD - Part 5

It took me years to finally get a diagnosis for my oldest daughter. I knew she suffered from it along with myself but no one would listen. They couldn't understand that a 13 year old could have it. Finally getting someone to help her was a major relief.



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      DarkenedAngel
June 14th | DarkenedAngel
Re: PTSD - Part 5

Of course kids can't suffer things like that, they bounce back from anything that happens! - that was my mother's attitude, and it was that which made me think that there was something wrong with me for most of my life. If all other kids could just get over things, why couldn't I? Good to know that there are more parents out there that understand things can effect children as well and they don't just "get over" things so easily.



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llmunchkin
October 2007 | llmunchkin
Re: PTSD - Part 5
Matey - I have been meaning to get around to read this for days... This morning I reread the previous four - and although they are good, this one is REALLY good!  I can't help and think there is much more though, not least of all your difficult path to diagnosis that is yet to be shared... Great stuff, it makes me feel tense just reading it - best wishes, Lui XOX


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      DarkenedAngel
October 2007 | DarkenedAngel
Re: PTSD - Part 5

I'm getting to it! Honest! There's a hell of a lot to write about it. It's taking me lots of time to research it all so that I can understand it myself, let alone actually find the time to write it out! Gimme a break! LOL



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emmie
October 2007 | emmie
Re: PTSD - Part 5

wow absolutly brilliant and very informative

thanks for sharing this

emz



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      DarkenedAngel
June 14th | DarkenedAngel
Re: PTSD - Part 5

Thanks. It took a lot of research and reading to get this one written and I learned a lot about myself in the process.



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Marglr
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | Marglr
Re: PTSD - Part 5
Intelligent and well put. I have talked to many service men due to respect and gratitude that I carry and the horrors of war are a reality that we can't understand. My dear neighbour is a 84 year old man that has told me of his service horrors,they are still fresh in his mind,how could they not be? He still sheds tears for the friends that died beside him. The mind has to deal and work through terrors it's exposed to,to escape without harm from some situations is impossible. Maybe post tramatic stress is accepted more over here as it is not assumed to be war related. Well done and so compelling to read.


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      DarkenedAngel
June 14th | DarkenedAngel
Re: PTSD - Part 5

Thanks matey. A lot of people don't realise that this condition has always existed, it just didn't have a name. It has also been called "battle fatigue" and "shell shock" - again, names contributed to war.



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winja
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | winja
Re: PTSD - Part 5
wow terrific advice da! i have often thought of the vets and wondered how they survived first of all their experience in the war then the sunning they got when they returned home, they should have been able to hold their head high and talk about their experiences but were instead made to shut it off and pretend it didnt happen, this is the same sort of story for most ptsd sufferers today. im sorry to hear that ppl are still to this day being led to believe that there is a "normal" group of ppl to have this disorder in a world full of chaos and hurt leaving sufferers misdiagnosed and confused. keep it up hun


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      DarkenedAngel
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | DarkenedAngel
Re: PTSD - Part 5
And now the servicemen returning from the middle east are going through exactly the same thing. Another war that many people think should not be happening. Who's getting the blame for it? Have we not learned yet?


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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | nell18-3
Re: PTSD - Part 5
Amazing article
Your insight on this is incredible
it makes so much sense as I was reading it
Especially the "Still there" comment
People don't get it sometimes, they ask why I haven't yet got over my "illness' but at times it is because I am "still there"
thankyou for writing this in such an open way
xxx


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      DarkenedAngel
June 14th | DarkenedAngel
Re: PTSD - Part 5

My insight into it is simply because I have it. LOL Well, I've also done a lot of reading about it from things written by Vietnam Vetrans as well, so that has helped. I think more civilian people that have this condition should write about it, so I'm not going to be hypocritical and not do so myself.



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cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | October 2007 | cazza
Re: PTSD - Part 5
Great advise there, and i think that it needs to be more recogisnised and that people that have this, shouldnt be shunned or looked down on....

So hope one day there is more research, but in the mean time you are doing a great job by sharing this with us and having us understand what it is all about...

love cazza


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      DarkenedAngel
June 14th | DarkenedAngel
Re: PTSD - Part 5

Thanks matey. I've taken so long to get all this series done because I'm learning more about it - and thus myself - as I go. And there's still more to explain!



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