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Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?

LibbyS by LibbyS Talking(January 2008) (rank 102nd)

There has been a lot of discussion on Minti recently about accidents with children, 'teaching' parenting and parental responsibility. I have be saddend many, many times over the past few months when listening to the news and hearing about yet another child who has died. Car accidents, accidents at home,

kids left in cars, dog attacks on babies and cases of child molestation, abuse and murder seem to be happening weekly or daily. Even without immediate tragic results, I've also read a lot of blogs which have commented on the ways in which other parents have been perceived as not keeping their children safe.

The answer - education and support for parents, and therefore also an emphasis of personal (and therefore parental) responsibility. I will, however, caution everyone about how we do this. I have seen a few people blog/ comment saying 'they should teach parenting in schools.' I commend people for wanting to be proactive in educating and supporting parents, however I really feel that we need to look beyond schools. "They should teach *** in schools' is often the first and only way that many think of as educating the public. However, I would like everyone to remember that every moment spent on parenting classes would be less time spent on maths, history, spelling, grammar and so on. My thoughts on this matter in detail here.  

Why should the responsibility of teaching parenting fall to schools; what about families, community groups, church groups, neighbourhood associations and the like? Minti itself is a place (we could call it an online community group) where parents can receive advice, support and education which goes beyond 'they should teach that in schools'. Minti is actually a really great example of how things can be taught and shared and a way in which parents can be empowered - and it functions from the grass roots. It's not someone 'giving lessons' in parenting; it's parents sharing the trials and tribulations, secrets and successes, grievances and goals of their own parenting. It is a great way for parents to receive education and support.

Lets look outside the box here, guys. Lets see what other ideas we can come up with, in a positive way, of getting this information and support there for parents. I'd be really interested to hear what ways people think we can support parents beyond 'they should teach that in schools'. So - what can we come up with?  

Here's my one - I really enjoyed it when SuperNanny first came on TV. Now, I'm not saying that she was the perfect know-all-power when it came to childred - I did and didn't agree with a lot of the things that she did. However, all of a sudden topics such as parenting, disciplining children and the health and safety of our children were topics of converstation among parents and the community in general. Love or hate SuperNanny (or something in between), lots of people were talking about her and her apporach and then wider topics to do with raising children. People were sharing ideas, opinions and thoughts, and it was great.

Ok, that's two things which I think work well as a way of supporting and educating parents which didn't involve kids spending less time on reading, writing and arithmetic. So, I challenge you - what other positive ideas of supporting and educating parents can we come up with?

 

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bruciegee
Yesterday 7pm | bruciegee
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?

Yay, I'm with you... let's keep thinking outside the box! Our society (ies) are waiting desperately for a whole range of new parenting support/training techniques, programs and opportunities... not that the ones in place are not good (some of them are amazing!) , but different folks need different strokes!

Let's keep dreaming, brain-storming... and inspiring one another with new ideas!!



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emmie
November 21st | emmie
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?

great article thanks for sharing xx



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kseers
June 2008 | kseers
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?

Good questions.  I know preschool, family day care and playgroup all get given information to pass on to parents - on sun safety, nutrition, child restraints etc.... - but how many parents read them?  There are occasionally parenting courses - I have been to one session, but it was in the evening and was very difficult to get to.  I would love to see more courses and programs for parents - and maybe have them during teh day with baby sitters, or even before you have children.  Our ante-natal course covered birth and breastfeeding and changing nappies - nothing about parenting or handling children.  Perhaps maternity departments and community health could refer people to parenting classes at various stages.  That would be helpful and could also provide contacts for isolated parents in our rural areas.



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stacey79
January 2008 | stacey79
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?

great advice

i have always gone on the way of your children will copy what they see so i try very hard to be who i want my children to be.im not saying it works all the time and i have my days just like my kids do but its the little things that matter.

also i talked to my husband about how alot of ppeople see me having to much of a grip on the kids my response for that is i would rwather hold on to tight than not at all.

my kids dont get to ride down the street by themselfs the dont get to go across the road to the park by them selfs i always have to be close by these days you blink and they are gone.

great advice



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emmysmum
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | emmysmum
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?
I agree with everything in this article, so well done on such a great article.
In high schools here in NSW, we have an optional course in yrs 8-10 where we can choose child studies etc. I opted for child studies in yr 9 and took the baby thing home and it was really scary. you couldn't leave it or anything.
It counted head tilts, neglect and rough handling.
I think this program should be made compulsory in high school.
Cheers


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      LibbyS
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | LibbyS
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?

Hi,

That's great that you found that course useful, but I think I would disagree with it being compulsory. If a student is pursuing an academic course, their course load will need to be mostly academic subjects in order to be competitive, maintain a high level of topic coverage and depth, develop higher orger analytical thinking skills, be fully prepared for the academic rigour of later schooling and university. However, if it is offered as an option, particularly for those who are interested in working in childcare, I'm sure it would be of value. My worry if we make child studies compulsory is that something else gets pushed out of the way, be it another practical course (like healthy cooking or financial managment) or academic subjects. Less time for academic subjects in grades 8 - 10 (or there abouts) may not fully prepare students for the rigour which senior schooling requires. If it's offered as a choice, then those for whom it would be of value will benefit from it.

The more choice and different paths which we can offer our kids at school, the more kids who will have the educational experience which best suits the individual child. Most schools today offer purely academic courses, vocational training, apprenticeships and traineeships, work experience (or a combination of these) and can even tailor courses when special needs are evident.

Having the choice of a (senior) high school course which is relevant, meets the needs of that particular child and prepares them for their career post school is a vital part of a positive, successful learning experience. The more that is made compulsory, the less flexibility there is.

I'm glad that you seemed to have had that experience with the child studies course you did. Thanks so much for your comments!



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winja
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | winja
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?
i must agree with both you and cazza here.
i think parents should be more educated on parenting in general and coping techniques.

 i don't think in schools it should take away from regular schooling but i know when i was in high school we had optional courses like cooking and child studies and i opted for child studies, then when i was in college i studied child care and working with children and i was in a VET course for childcare too and those helped me considerably with parenting.

when chloe was born being a young mum i took myself off to a triple p parenting program and it helped me to learn coping techniques and positive reinforcement.

 i also joined a parenting group for teen mums that had all sorts of information given to us from discipline to dental hygiene and that was a great thing for me to do too.

as parents we need all the help we can get and learn new things all the time. I'm happy that these programs were accessible to me and that i was a willing participant i just wish more parents would seek them out....
offering parenting type programs in the later stages of high school is in my opinion a terrific idea, often it turns kids off becoming pregnant and it gives them a great start to learning to become a parent for later.


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      LibbyS
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | LibbyS
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?

Thanks so much for your comments - more positive healthy discussion - thanks. I'm glad you found lots of support. Who ran the teen parenting group you were talking about and how did you find out about it? Was it a play group thing or more of an education course like Triple P? Sounds like is was good (I've got a family full of dentists and teachers, so discipline and teeth are a big hit as far as I'm concerned!)

Thanks for sharing.



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           winja
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | winja
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?
the program was through centre-care it was called PRAM (pregnancy and motherhood) it was for mums aged 14 to 25 so you could meet other young mums and ask questions without feeling silly. the kids could either stay with you or go into the childcare they provided for you for free we could walk in and out of the childcare as we wished so it didn't feel like we were leaving them. it wasn't like a playgroup it was for learning mostly we would tell the coordinator what we were interested in learning and they would arrange it for us, we learnt CPR and basic first aid thru saint johns, as i said we had a dental hygienist come in one day, we did a 4 week budgeting course (hmm might need that one again lol Christmas killed me!) and lots more we did have triple p come in for a number of weeks to teach us toddler taming and occasionally we would do outings like learn to swim for the kids.


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                LibbyS
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | LibbyS
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?
That sounds great - I'd never hear of that one before. Sounds like it had a pretty broad coverage of useful topics. Thanks for sharing; hopefully someone who is interested will read about it here and investigate it. Thanks!


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samantha
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | samantha
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?
wow!! well said, i agree 100%


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      LibbyS
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | LibbyS
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?

Thanks for your kind words. Any ideas on other ways we can support parents?



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cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | cazza
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?
Great advice you have done here and i would be the last one to argue with what you have said here.. Yes i said i agreed that education on parenting could start at school, and in high school in tasmania we have young teens take baby dolls home and there is a program in it as if it was a real baby, and you have to keep a diary of what you did with that baby ... So teaches teens to be responsible and how it is to have a baby and their programs down here work great... We also have a High school that encourage teens to return to study and provide assistance for childcare for their babies on school premises if need be...  Saying all that i agree its not the education department or teachers duty to teach our young ones to be better parents or whatever, but for some kids out there they trust their teachers more to speak too their own parents  etc,... Ok thats my views on the education side ...

Now as a foster carer  i have had a lot of children and babies come into my care and for some parents they feel embrassed to reach out and ask for help, or they are just a figure to the system, but we as a community can standup and say please seek help and your child wont be taken off u as some think that,.......  and its ok to have time out and you aint a failure or a bad parent for doing so......

Also in the Community i live in, there has being many parenting courses that have being organised and run at the community centre and have came from church organisations  or government places.. and the programs as such have being  Positive Parenting, Triple P , and other parenting related courses, and i have attended all , and it saddens me as at our school there is 200 students now out of that 100 parents would be in a crisis situation and need some assistance in parenting, but do they attend these courses , No, as it either takes away their shopping day or watching the soaps.......

I feel that we need to all unite regardless of gender, age, education and reach out to the young ones today and say hey dont be afraid you aint alone and there is services available and if that service you go too turns you away, then you say to them , then if you cant help me , then could you please find a service that can,,,.......

As i said in the last article that you are speaking about, My dads motto is that you can get a licence to drive but not a licence to be a parent.......

Also yes minti is the best site to reach out and be supportive and i rave all the time to my support groups i attend and say what a great site and what wonderful people i have met.......

It breaks my heart when i switch on the tv or pick up the paper and see a another lost child taken so tragically,. but we cant save every child, but we can try and work together to help those that want our help....

Thank you , and please dont be offended by what i have said, as i think teachers are the best role models for our children and do so well to teach in some unfortunate circumstances....

xxxx cazza


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      LibbyS
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2008 | LibbyS
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?

Hi Cazza,

Thanks so much for your comment, and I assure you I wasn't offended by your comments. And there were a few articles and blogs I'd read, it hadn't just been one, so don't worry.

I think the Triple P stuff is great - that's what I wanted to get at. Perhaps people will read your comment and investigate that path - they may not have heard of it. This is what I was aiming for with this article, to hear people's ideas on how we can look outside the box and support each other. If we can build up a 'toolbox' of existing ideas and ways of shaing parenting skills with each other (and perhaps come up with some ideas for a few more) then we can inhance our parenting skills and help other. Being positive and proactive in doing that was my intention with writing this article.

Thanks so much for your thoughts.



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linus
January 2008 | linus
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?

thanks im glad to have come across this article.....its positivity is refreshing to say the least!!!  honestly i have been dumbfolded how many people have jumped on the 'how could they as parents' bandwagon and felt only sadness for all involved

my question to all women is  the following 'how could we point our finger at other peoples shortcomings and on the other hand be more then accepting of Post Natal Sydrome ' ???? have i missed something ????

rue



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      LibbyS
January 2008 | LibbyS
Re: Parenting 101 - how will we run the subject?
Thanks for your comment, any thoughts on ways we can support parents? Let's see how many ideas we can come up with to do something positive.


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