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Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

mariamum by mariamum Talking Back(February 2008) (rank 77th)

I hope I don't scare anyone with this advice but I've finally found the confidence to write it so I hope it helps any parents out there that may need it. 

I recently had a little bit of a scare with my four year old son, when he started

school he was always going off sick with various illnesses most commonly coughs and colds.  However one day the school called me because they suspected that he may have German measles, I was very surprised because he had had his MMR jabs, anyway I took him to the doctors who advised me that the clinical diagnosis was German measles and they gave me antibiotics and told me to keep him off school.  Anyway he went back to school when he was well and then a few days later was ill again this time his lymph nodes had come up and were quite visible (under his ears)  so I took him to the doctors again who gave me some more antibiotics and told me to come back in two weeks if they hadn't gone down, at the time I didn't think they were serious because lymph nodes normally come up to combat infection and normally antibiotics help get rid of infection and so the lymph nodes generally go down again.  

Anyway took him to the doctors who then wanted him to have a blood test, but that came back ok.  So I carried on as normal until again he was ill this time the doctors decided to refer me to the peadatric unit of the hospital and there they did blood tests and xrays and said that his body was obviously fighting an infection of sorts (they weren't sure what infection it was) and they gave me more antibiotics and sent us home and told me to ask my doctor to refer us to the ENT dept of the hospital.  After the course of antibiotics was finished and he was better I went to ask for a referral to ENT at my doctors because the lymph nodes were still very large and having looked on the internet I know understood why the doctors were concerned about them, (there was the possible risk of cancer but without checking I would not know).  Now I know that lymph nodes are supposed to enlarge to fight of infections but the abnormal part about his lymph nodes was that they were 2cm in diameter and normally after antibiotics lymph nodes generally do get smaller even though they can still stay big at 1cm in diameter for 6 months or more. 

To cut a long story short eventually the ENT dept saw him and did an ultrasound scan and they decided to then do a biospy (to remove the biggest lymph node via an operation).  Anyway they asked me various questions one of them being did he have problems sleeping, now what 4 year old doesn't I thought, but there was a condition I wasn't even aware of something called sleep apnea.  Apparently it's a sleeping problem where you have one or more pauses (pauses can last from a few seconds to minutes)  in breathing while you sleep.  Commonly people who have this condition are overweight or people who have small airways in their noses or throats or small children who have enlarged tonsil tissues in the throat. 

Now my son has always had particularly large tonsils and that is quite common in children of his age but his tonsils were always healthy and so I didn't think this was an issue, however when I mentioned to the doctor that he did snore at night and did have pauses in his breathing (which I thought was just due to all his coughs and colds) the doctor said it was best to remove his tonsils and adenoids.  When the day of the operation arrived I was worried sick and I wasn't sure if the biospy would highlight any more problems.  The operation was over in a few hours but Daniel did not recover very well from it, because he would not eat or drink or take any medication orally they had to eventually put him on a drip and did everything intravenously.  Now I must add not all children react badly to this kind of operation, in fact another little girl in the ward who had the same operation was up chatting, eating and drinking. 

But the message I want to send especially to parents who might be in a dilemma with regards to this kind of operation is that even though at the time it wasn't easy it was the right decision for my son and he is sleeping and eating so much better now.  Now there are risks with any operation and the doctors will tell you all about them but you have to decide what is best for your child and I know that it is not an easy decision to make so I hope having been through this and having come out the other side this will help you make that decision.  Oh and by the way the biopsy results came back clear, hooray.

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cyberdreamz
July 14th | cyberdreamz
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Re: Tonsillitis

My son (aged 4 years 10 months) has been havin recurrent infection in his tonsils (4 times in the past 7 months)

The ENT has given us no option but to get it opertated.

I just wanted to know from parents who have already gone through the procedure if they have noticed an decrease in immunity after the operation! (Frequent infections..??? colds...? or anything like that)

Am so torn between getting it operated or not... would really appreciate any feedback!

Thanks!



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      mariamum
July 14th | mariamum
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Hi

Daniel has been so much better since the operation, if he gets a cold or cough he does not suffer as much as he used to before the operation, because his tonsils don't flare up.  Now when he gets a cold or other virus he gets a fever etc but recovers much faster from his illness.  As far as I can see there has been no decrease in his immunity at all, I can't stop him catching whatever is going around but he does cope with whatever he does get so much better.  Trust me you will notice the difference. 

I know how you feel about the operation I felt exactly the same way.  At the time the whole procedure felt like a nightmare and he didn't cope well after the op but then that does not mean that your son will be the same.  There were other children on the ward that coped with the operation without any probs, but my Daniel took a little longer to recover from the op than the others.  Looking back I wouldn't want to go through that again but I AM glad that I did get it done it has done him a world of good. 

Sending you all my love and hope everything works out ok. 

Love Maria xx



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sarahznidarich
February 2009 | sarahznidarich
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

I recently had pretty much the same problems with my son, he has just turned 4 years old. He had the same coughs and colds that never seemed to end, one on top of another. He also had a constant runny nose, and caught every bug going round. He also had the pausing in breathing at night which I also assumed were due to the colds and he also non stop snored which I also thought was due to the colds. Although my son had 6 consectutive months of tonsilitis so we were referred to an ENT.   From there the ENT said he needed his tonsils and adenoids out along with caurterization of his turbinates (they are located in the nostrils). I was a neveous wreck, wondering if I was doing the right thing putting him under anaestetic and waking up in pain...BUT it was the best thing I have ever done for my little guy... He took 10 days to fully recover, the next morning after the op he was in  pain but once medicated was great, he didn't eat the next morning so we had to stay slightly longer, but by lunch time was eating so we went home. He was up and down with pain, and his breath smelled really bad, which is normal. Now 20 days since the op, I actually check on him in the night  to see if he's still breathing because he is so quiet and I'm not used to it, theres no more snoring and no more sleep apnea and his speach has also improved considerably aswell. I believe there is nothing but great benifits from doing the operation. My 5 year old daughter also has the same problems and is booked in 2 weeks today for the same procedure!



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | nell18-3
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Well done

This is great information here

xxx

 



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fairymama25
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | fairymama25
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

An excellent and informative article, thanks so much, Em x



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      mariamum
February 2008 | mariamum
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Thanks Em I was worried that it might not make sense, when I read it a second time it just sounded garbled, lol.



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      mariamum
February 2008 | mariamum
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Thanks Em I was worried that it might not make sense, when I read it a second time it just sounded garbled, lol.



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jenaya04
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | jenaya04
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Fantastic article and advice well worth informing us about. You must have been so scared. Im happy to hear it all worked out tho..again, great advice

Joxx



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      mariamum
February 2008 | mariamum
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Thanks Jo, at the time I was going through it I was really scared because I just could not look ahead to now.



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angieh
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | angieh
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Glad to know your son has gotten better after the operation.



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      mariamum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | mariamum
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Thanks Angie just hope this advice provides reassurance for other parents that may be going through this



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cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | cazza
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Great Article and Advice.. and im pleased that your son came through it all at the end...

xxx cazza



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      mariamum
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | mariamum
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Thanks Cazza I found this so hard to do because my writing is just not very good.



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emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2008 | emmie
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Great Advice sweetie its great his biopsy results came back clear what a relief

Thaks for sharing

Luv Emz xx



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      mariamum
February 2008 | mariamum
Re: Sleep apnea and swollen glands and tonsils in young children

Thanks Em you're so sweet I was so worried that it just didn't sound like advice. 



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