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Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

DarkenedAngel by DarkenedAngel Talking Back(June 12th) (rank 73rd)

Intelligence is something that has separated social circles in every culture since the dawn of time. It has won battles, solved problems, created every invention, and been responsible for the survival of the human race. Humans can’t swim fast, can’t run fast, can’t swing through trees well, and can’t fly. We have no natural defences like claws, toxins, spines, thick fur or tough hides. We had to out-smart our predators and our prey, and figure out ways to protect ourselves from the environments we lived in. Without our intelligence, we would have died out as a species before we ever were one!

Because intelligence is so important to us, we have tried to define it in so many ways it’s almost absurd. People have tried to find ways to test intelligence in many different ways throughout the years. The most well-known test is the IQ test, but even that has its downfalls and only gives a vague representation of limited types of intelligence. There is no way of really defining what makes one ordinary person smarter than another. Yet so many parents still pray their child will score good grades at school, and if they don’t, it’s a disappointment.

There are many levels on which the human brain operates. If someone lacks ability in one area, they usually make up for it in another. I’m going to give a list and simple description of differing things that need to be considered when trying to determine whether someone is intelligent or as thick as two bricks. I have not used the technically correct terms here, and I know someone is going to eventually come here and comment trying to give me technically correct definitions according to a certain dictionary or psychological or psychiatric study. That’s not my focus here, as different people over the years have defined intelligence of various types in so many different ways it makes my head spin! The main point is that I have given here a rough concept of the different things that should be considered before calling someone stupid.

  • Logic: Ability to make sense of things and develop a sound and sensible conclusion.
  • Intellect: Ability to absorb information.
  • Memory: Ability to recall information over a period of time.
  • Wisdom: Ability to understand, have a deep insight into something and predict a likely outcome.
  • Knowledge: Things that have been learned through study and education.
  • Experience: Things that have been learned through life’s encounters of trial and error.
  • Motivation: Willingness to achieve things.
  • Application: Willingness to use what you have to achieve things.
  • Aptitude: Ability to use what you have to achieve things.
  • Wit: Ability to think and react quickly.
  • Creativity: Ability to extrapolate, imagine, and improvise.
  • Empathy: Ability to understand the emotions of others.
  • Awareness: Ability to notice things around you.
  • Self-awareness: Ability to know yourself, what you are thinking and feeling and why.
  • Concentration: Ability to focus on something for a period of time.

At any given time on any given day, any of these things can be stronger or weaker. A lack of concentration due to feeling tired, or excessive stress impeding a person’s memory, are examples of how these things can fluctuate. Some people might question, what about instinct and intuition? And that is a good point. If you think about it long enough, even in animals, instinct tends to come from experience, wisdom, awareness, and self-awareness more so than anything else. And just because we don’t understand it or it is subconscious, it doesn’t mean there isn’t a logical explanation for how someone knows something it seems they shouldn’t know. The concept of psychic abilities opens up a can of worms that I don't even want to touch on here, so I'll say nothing about that in this advice or I'll never get it finished!

Some things that are granted as intelligent aren’t necessarily so. Ability to research a topic for example, isn’t a form of intelligence, but a learned skill that utilizes several forms of intelligence. The same goes for a person’s ability to communicate effectively. I might be able to explain complicated concepts in writing, but if I tried to do it in person I’d probably look like a right twit! Just because someone can’t express what they know and think, doesn’t mean they don’t know or can’t think. And many people could do a lot better with passing exams if they didn’t stress out over them and cause themselves to have mental blackouts, and forget half of what they have learned until the exam is finished, because of it.

Learning difficulties can also impact on perceived intelligence. I know someone who’s predominant language is English, but when trying to study something difficult in written English they have a hard time of it. However, put it in written French and they comprehend far more easily. People with conditions such as autism, aren’t necessarily unintelligent, they just perceive and thus learn things in a different way. The same goes with conditions such as dyslexia and ADHD. They can still be highly intelligent people, they just need to learn things in a way that best suits them. Unfortunately even the best schools can't always accommodate such individual learning for every student.

So is someone with a high IQ intelligent? Generally speaking, yes. But that’s not to say that under the right circumstances they can’t be out-smarted by someone with a lower IQ. And it certainly doesn’t mean that they will actually apply their IQ to anything they do! I was a classic example of that when I was in school. I used to drive my teachers crazy because I would pass some classes with flying colours, and nearly fail others, and there seemed to be no consistency with that. My teachers couldn’t figure out what was going on with me, so they sent me for an official IQ test among other things.

A series of tests and assessments proved that not only did I not have any form of learning difficulties, but I also had an IQ of 179. I was reading Jack London novels when the other kids were still reading Dr Seuss, so how could I come so close to failing so often? It was simply because I rarely ever did an assignment, never did any home work, spent most of my class time asleep or doing something other than the work I was supposed to be doing, and yet I would still pass every exam. Because of the way different subjects are structured in their teaching methods, some I would pass with flying colours because all of the assessment was based on exam results, and others I would almost fail because they were based on assignments, home work and class work. The problem that I had was that I was so terribly bored with most of the subjects at school that I had no interest in putting in any effort into actually doing any work. I was capable of learning a semester’s worth of work in a couple of weeks, but I couldn’t be bothered putting in the time to write essays and the like to prove it.

If your child isn’t scoring good results at school, it doesn’t mean that they aren’t smart. And if your child is scoring very well at school, it doesn’t necessarily mean they are better than other children. There are so many variables to consider, so many ways to learn, and express what we have learned, that it is nigh impossible to determine who is really intelligent and who isn’t.

However, there are still people in the world that can safely be called stupid. When someone thinks they know something but have been given conflicting information many different times, in every different format, and explained in every possible way, with undisputable proven evidence, and they still don’t get it because they are so stubborn and narrow-minded that they can’t comprehend the idea that they could be possibly br wrong about something – that is stupid.

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sonjamalan
June 30th | sonjamalan
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

thanks for this - i needed to hear it...  i especially agree with A very wise teacher once told me that students don't fail school, school fails students



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llmunchkin
June 15th | llmunchkin
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

Every body has different learning styles, and intelligence can be measured and determined by many things... I don't think that anyone is really intelligent enough to determine who is and isn't stupid though.

,However, there are still people in the world that can safely be called stupid. When someone thinks they know something but have been given conflicting information many different times, in every different format, and explained in every possible way, with undisputable proven evidence, and they still don’t get it because they are so stubborn and narrow-minded that they can’t comprehend the idea that they could be possibly br wrong about something – that is stupid.,



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      DarkenedAngel
June 15th | DarkenedAngel
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

Actually contumacious would be a better word to describe someone that I described above, but that word isn't in the vocabulary of most people, and even some dictionaries don't have it.



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           MrsSanders
June 16th | MrsSanders
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

Hey girl, who you calling stubborn. LOL. I love that word, we had a teacher who used it regulary in my report cards from school. Actually in my view, we would never have gained the knowledge to sit IQ tests, if it was not for the Great Contumacious minds of the past who stubbornly went against the accepted and scientifically proven views. A fact is only a fact until shown not to be, the standard now for all Intelectual Study, that includes the IQ test which evolves and changes depending on the human who comes up with the questions. It only covers the percieved knowledge at that second in time, and does not show what you have not had access to or what one is really capable of given the information. What makes me laugh is that a UK educated child sitting an American IQ test would score less than sitting a UK test as the "Logic" is percieved differently. Funny old world we live in, that ones true worth to Humanity could ever be measured by a test.

Luv Winnie.xxxx



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                DarkenedAngel
June 19th | DarkenedAngel
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

Exactly. Just because I had a result of 179 when I was tested that time, it certainly doesn't mean I would score the same again on any other day! I was re-tested a few years ago by my psychologist at the time, and I scored 124 - huge difference. If I did another one now it would be a different result again. That was a lot of the point of this article. I scored ridiculasly high once, but that doesn't make me better than anyone, and it doesn't mean anything besides on that particular day at that particular time I was mentally switched on enough to score high in that particular test. If I'd been given a different IQ test that day I could just as easily have failed! LOL



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           llmunchkin
June 15th | llmunchkin
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

It seems quite commonly considered that Einstein's estimated IQ was around 160... It also seems that above 144 has genius status and it is an extremely low percentage of the general population that has an IQ above 170 - around one in a million roughly.



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                DarkenedAngel
June 19th | DarkenedAngel
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

Yes, and it has also been shown over the years that many IQ tests have been biased towards culture and education, which often contributed to assumptions that people of a certain race/culture were less intelligent because they scored lower. It also depends on a person's ability to comprehend the language the test is presented in, and just because it is in the native language of the person  tested, it doesn't mean they will automatically have 100% comprehension of that language. Very few people do. So in my opinion, an IQ score doesn't mean much at all. And hey, Einstein didn't do well at school either - and that backs up my point perfectly!



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Juzzy
June 13th | Juzzy
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

Once again, a great article



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      DarkenedAngel
June 14th | DarkenedAngel
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

Thank you.



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Ametrine
June 13th | Ametrine
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

I havd profound Dyslexia , diagnosed when I was about 26, and I'm not using this as a reason for people to ' feel sorry' for me either, it's just for example. I've had to find other ways to get over the' intellagance ' barrier. As I refused to take ant exams at seanior school as I'd been toild so often that I was stupid, I decided not to prove them right. I know I'm not, now, But if your toild somthing offten enough you belive it.

Thank you for showing our Minti parents that, exam results do not make the child.



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      DarkenedAngel
June 14th | DarkenedAngel
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

I think that the school system needs to find alternate ways of determining whether or not a child is learning what they should be, as well as other teaching methods. Instead of expecting all children to fit into the bounds of "normal", maybe finding a way to get the "normal" students to adapt to the needs of those that aren't would be a better strategy sometimes. It's hard though as all schools have limited resources and there's only so much any school can do. This is where parents have to look outside the box and help where they can.



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           Ametrine
June 16th | Ametrine
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

This is why I home taught my daughter. She was not coping with the way they were expecting her to learn.



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monyq83
June 12th | monyq83
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

Wow where do you get the ideas for these advices youve been coming up with?

Another interesting thought to ponder.



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      DarkenedAngel
June 14th | DarkenedAngel
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

They come from all sorts of inspirations. LOL



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superpo
June 12th | superpo
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

I think the first step in talking about whether someone is intelligent is deciding what intelligence is. I definitely agree that parents shouldn't worry about school standardized test scores as a measure of their child's intelligence. Unfortunately, those tests are being used more and more by the schools to decide how to educate. It's hard to completely ignore them.



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      DarkenedAngel
June 14th | DarkenedAngel
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

Of course it's always good to encourage your child to try and do well, but if htey aren't doing well, it's also wise to look outside the box and try to figure out why before assuming it is just because they aren't intelligent.



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nell18-3
June 12th | nell18-3
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

I spent over 20 years living with someone who constantly told me that I may have qualifications but I didn't have an ounce of common sense so I was a lethal combination of someone who thought I was smart when actually I was pretty dumb

Guess what I think I'm quite intelligent because I found my common sense and got rid of the rubbish !!!!!

xxx

 



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      DarkenedAngel
June 14th | DarkenedAngel
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

I understand where you are coming from. I think the stupid person in your story was not you. You know my opinion. LOL



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cathbusymum
June 12th | cathbusymum
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

Love your definition of stupid. I knew a few people like that!

I was similar at school. Way to bored to be bothered much. I was also sent to do aptitude and IQ tests. The results said I would blitz the HSC but I refused to believe them and didn't do it. Pretty stupid hehehe



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      DarkenedAngel
June 12th | DarkenedAngel
Re: Extremely high IQ yet almost failed school.

I still know a few people like that! LOL

A very wise teacher once told me that students don't fail school, school fails students. I reckon he was right.



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