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About Reporting Child Abuse or Neglect

iamschild by iamschild Standing(September 9th) (rank 500+)

(to the reviewers- I just fixed a couple spelling errors and changed the end summary section. )

Hi. I’m a child protection worker in the province of Saskatchewan, Canada. The information I am about to share will be much the same in other provinces and countries, but specific

laws, policies, and job titles will be different.  I’ve read a number of the articles on this site, and I hope to add some slightly different information. There are a lot of myths and miss understandings about exactly what it is we do. I find one of the main reasons people don’t report is the fear of the unknown. So, I’d like to shed a little light into the dark unknown of reporting a child protection concern.

What to expect when you make the call 

You’ll be asked to give the name of the children, their ages if known and current location. You’ll also be asked for the names of their parents, and where the home is. I strongly suggest people share everything they know, and leave their name and number in case there are more questions. We keep your information private, and it can only be disclosed in court (which in my experience rarely happens). Often the person who follows up on the situation is not the person your talking to, and the person going out may want to talk to you. Also, if it is not an immediate risk situation, it may be a few days later and we may want an update on the situation.

What to expect after you call 

Once we have your information, we assess it to determine how serious the situation is, and the risk to the child. Depending on the situation we may go out to the home immediately, or we may check with collaterals (schools, community resources, extended family) to get a clearer picture. We have a duty to investigate all reports, so even when we’re over worked, we eventually get to every report that is within our mandate.

 As stated above, I like to call back the caller before I go to the home. This way, I get a clear narrative of what is going on in the home, I can ask you any questions I have, and I get an update if it’s been a little while since you called. I usually then do a home visit with the family, although some situations differ.

 I explain to the family that there has been a concern. Most families want to know who called, and are initially angry about the report. I tell them that that information is confidential. Some parents will guess who it was. Sometimes they guess right, sometimes they don’t. all I state is that I can’t tell them if they’ve guessed right or not. If the caller is really concerned about their safety, or if I’m concerned about the caller’s safety, I can notify the caller that the person guessed right or contact the police and advise them of the potential risk. Once, I got a call from someone that they were beaten up because someone accused them of calling me, and they were calling me to tell me they didn’t call. I told them that I knew it wasn’t them that called, and explained to them what I’ve just explained here. They were still disturbed from the beating, but at least they understood what had happened. This is an extreme example and only occurred once in my six years, and that was a very unusual situation. The matter was reported to the police as well if I recall. Most families settle down once I talk to them, and we focus on what’s best for their children. From there, we come up with a plan to address the situation. As you can see, we do our best to protect your identity while still addressing the problem with the family. It’s not always easy, I’ll say that.

 How and When to Call 

When it leaves you lying awake at night, call. When it grosses you out, call. When you’d be devastated if it was your child, call. When you wouldn’t want your dog to lvie like that, call. When it will mess up the rest of the child’s life, call. When a child is suffering, call. When a child is yelled at, insulted, sworn at, degraded, told to shut up and called a whore at three years old, call. When a young child is home alone, or with younger siblings, call. When it just won’t leave you alone, call.

 If you think that further harm could occur before the next business day, contact the after hours emergency services. These vary greatly. Here, the emergency numbers are on the message at the office. Some offices are call forwarded. Other areas have a 24 hour reporting line. Here, the numbers are on a special emergency contact page in the front of the phone book. Everywhere, you can contact your local police. If it is an emergency they will respond or contact us on your behalf. You can also ask them for the emergency numbers.

 Sometimes we’re a little hard to get a hold of. Don’t give up, that child depends on YOU until you can pass it to me or my colleagues. Leave messages, request a call back. Call the police, call the emergency numbers. Call mobile crisis or your local equivalent. Keep calling to you get the right number. For us, it’s a cell number and we have inconsistent cell coverage. I tell people to wait half an hour and try again. Sometimes I’m in the bathroom and forgot to take the phone in with me… The important thing is that at this point, that child is relying on YOU to get them help. Once you talk to us, it’s then our job.

 It may sound strange, but I believe you’ll sleep better once you call. People think the worst part of my job is taking people’s kids. That’s nasty, but there’s something worse… Not knowing if a kid’s safe or not. Wondering and worrying but not being able to prove it. For me, that’s a lot worse. At least if I’ve apprehended a child, I know their safe.

 But it’s not that serious… But I’m not quite sure… 

If in doubt, call. If you don’t know if you should call or not, you should call. Let the professionals decide if it’s serious or not. We can check it out and see what’s really going on. Sometimes problems are serious when they look minor and minor when they look serious.

 I once had a case that looked like nothing, and we didn’t even have the kids name. We were just told where the child was and the parents first name. It appeared to just be kids biting. I passed it on to our after hours person. She went out at five and didn’t get home until after midnight. Turns out it wasn’t kids being kids, it was a sick adult, and it was the worst case of abuse I’ve had to deal with in my six years here. Mom’s boyfriend (now ex-boyfriend) is still in jail. All from a single call with not much to go on…

 So, let us sort out what is serious and what’s not. That’s our job.

But I don’t want their children to be taken away! 

We don’t automatically take kids. I don’t like taking kids, and I don’t believe my colleagues do either. I find every other reasonable option, and try that first. We arrange for supports, connect people with services, make referrals, give suggestions, and even get creative in places where services and other options are limited. There are a wide variety of situations which can be addressed with out removing the kids. Many times parents just need an ear, a referral, or some other support. We work to preserve the family unit as much as possible.  If we do remove the children when you didn’t think they should be taken, the chances are that it was more serious than you were aware of.

If we do take children, we immediately start working to reunite those families, and we only keep the children for the shortest period of time for safety to be ensured. If extended family are a healthy option, we are always eager to place children with them. But that’s a topic for another night.

What not to report

There are many different ways to parent, and many different ways parents keep their kids safe. Some things are beyond our mandate. We are not the dirty house patrol, although we are concerned about used needles, drug paraphernalia where kids could get it, homelessness, slum housing, and physically unsafe homes. We are not truancy officers, but if kids are chronically falling asleep in class, are hungry, and the parents are avoiding calls from the school, we would be a little concerned. I won’t apprehend your kids if you spank your four year old with your open hand on his bum in the grocery store, but I would come visit you if you spanked him with a wooden spoon (this one varies a lot from country to country- in Canada, a child over 2 and under 12 can currently be spanked on the bum with an open hand by a parent if it is not done in anger). I hope this clarifies things a little.

Summary.

So, if the situation is bothering you, report it. Check your phone book for emergencies, or call the police. If it can wait until morning, call your local office. Tell them everything you know about the situation and the family, but don’t be concerned if you don’t know much. Don’t be concerned if it doesn’t look like we’re doing anything- often we are and we’re doing a good job of protecting people’s privacy! Until you pass the call on to us, your that child’s only hope. We can’t act on something we don’t know about.

 

Next addition:

Look for my upcoming article for parents who have just had a worker show up on their doorstep. I just need to have the time to write it ! If you have any specific questions or want to discuss a specific situation with me, feel free to message me.

 

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Amerlinwinga
November 13th | Amerlinwinga
Re: About Reporting Child Abuse or Neglect

Great advise thanks for sharing!... Its always good to get different sides of the story.



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iamschild
November 12th | iamschild
Re: About Reporting Child Abuse or Neglect

I have just written another article " Child Protection- Striking the Difficult Balance" which addresses the things the last few commenters have spoken of. Including Ms.Deleted, who's comment I saw before it was deleted. So, check it out everybody, and I hope it helps!

I am's child.



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tassiebiarch
November 12th | tassiebiarch
Re: About Reporting Child Abuse or Neglect

Maybe the person who is comments are being deleated needs to contact a member so you can get help cause you obviously do as i said maybe the system failed you we dont no but if you talk to someone people can lay things out straight. Whats wrong do you want someone to help you or a family member i dont mind leading you into the right direction here even if you want me to pick a good member to talk to you i know alot on here well enough to help..well by my comment below i have worked out that this member has had problems within her own close family regarding docs.

Please if you need to talk to anyone there are thousands on here that will help if they can

Tassie



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rcp-432
November 12th | rcp-432
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excellent article it takes alot to do the job you do so i have alot of respect for you keep your chin up



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nabutters
November 12th | nabutters
Re: About Reporting Child Abuse or Neglect

very good advice and i agree with tassie here!



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tassiebiarch
November 12th | tassiebiarch
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Great article maybe Australian Child Protection workers need to read this, as i am sick of reading in the papers of them(docs etc) were to late, were told mths before hand but was to late to stop it. We Australians need to get on top of this over it and sick of crying over the most outrageous things that are happening to little children cause of there stupid parents. sorry I just over it

Anyway as i said good article.

Tassie



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      iamschild
November 11th | iamschild
Re: About Reporting Child Abuse or Neglect

I understand that your hurting. I don't know much about your situation, but I did read a comment you left on another artice. I'm sorry that you were hurt that way... Do remember that I may be in another country than you are, and things are very different from country to country.

I know your hurting, and that other workers have hurt you alot. Some people think I'm a little different than most. If you'd like, we can minti mail and you can find out for yourself. Although, at this point you may still want to just tell me to shove that idea somewhere dark and smelly.

This article was intended to give general advice, primarily for those who are looking at reporting. This article was not intended for those who have involvement with the worker. I had intended to write one a while back, but ended up supporting the person through Minti mail. I will try to write that advice soon, hopefully by the end of the weekend.

 It appears the system failed you, and for that I am truely sorry. It was hard to follow what you were writing, but obviously your doing your best to deal with the lasting effects of the abuse your daughter experienced when she was 4. That's really hard work, and not an easy thing to do. I support foster parents in dealing with kids going through what your child has, and they have it no easier, inspite of their training in how to handle it. I have not been in your shoes, but i understand as well as I can not having been there... If you want to minti mail me to discuss it a little more, I'll help you all I can.

Also, there is a group here on Minti for parents who have involvement with child protection services, where they can have private support by people who really do care. The members of the group are other parents, foster parents, and people known to be very supportive and non-judgemental. It's called We Love Our Kids Too, because so many people iview people with protection involvement as not caring, which is absolutely NOT true.

One good thing about minti mailing me, is that you are anonymous here, and can ignore me or refuse to contact me all you like, with no harm done. I can support you, I can help you deal with the workers, I can help you understand what their saying, and what they really mean. But you can also tell me to shove it. It's up to you.

 



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emmie
September 14th | emmie
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great information very well written.

Thanks for sharing xxx



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janicepovey
September 10th | janicepovey
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Thanks for sharing this information from  the  professional side of things.

Cheers Janice



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Amerlinwinga
September 10th | Amerlinwinga
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Thanks for sharing with us.

Tee



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      iamschild
September 10th | iamschild
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Well, thanks to all of you for your encouragement. It looked like an area that hadn't been written on. If any of you think of something you'd like me to write about, let me know.

EF is right- confidentiality isn't perfect. But we try. Like i explained about the person guessing and beating someone up, even when there is no leak it can look like there is.

there are so many complexities to the work...

Thanks to everyone who commented.



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           bellasmom06
September 20th | bellasmom06
Re: About Reporting Child Abuse or Neglect

thank you for posting an informative article. What avenues do parents have though when the social worker "embellishes" or just out right lies?

Now Im not trying to start WW3 here. Like everything there are good and bad people, employees who care and those facing burnout.

I have never heard anyone or seen myself parents given any kind of information in Court. How are they supposed to know what to do? And what there rights are?

Didn't mean to make it to long, I just caught my groove.

Thanks,



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                iamschild
September 23rd | iamschild
Re: About Reporting Child Abuse or Neglect

Actually, this is going to be my topic for my next advice, once I have the chance to right it. But here's the answer in a nut shell.

As for false accustations, biased workers, inexpereinced workers, etc, the best solution is documentation and witnesses. Make notes on your own life, what happened, why it happened and what you did about it. If you know a bad situation is likely to occur, invite someone over your children are familiar with so that the problem will still occur, and have them observe what occured. They will need to be willing to come to court for you. Also If you already have a worker, be proactive, and call them to tell them Johnny skinned his knee riding his bike, etc. All these can help. Also, attitude toward your worker is extremely important.

As for court, at most democratic countries have a law that states the crown must disclose the information against you to you or your lawyer. So, you can't be tried for a crime without knowing what you've been accused of doing and given all their information to consider. Needless to say, it's often easier to have a lawyer to help with this. I strongly recommend that people do get a lawyer, and make sure that they know what their being accused of even if they are willing to agree to what the worker is asking. It can be slower though, but there may be ways of handling that, which I'll talk more about in the next advice. Generally, they can't not tell you what you've been accused of, and if you come out and ask, most of the time, they'll tell you. Asking something like "What are they saying I did or didn't do?" can be helpful. 

People have rights in family court, same as criminal court. The rules are a bit different though, and vary significantly from American crime dramas! In my expereince, it is rare to find workers who will actually create things, however, I do run into cases where the worker and the client don't get along and it results in kids never going home again... So this is one of my pet topics- how to get along with your worker!

Thanks for your comments, and no, you didn't go on too long. Look at me! Please watch for my next advice, I think you'll like it.



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cazza
September 10th | cazza
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Great advice and article and was great to read from a social workers point of view..

Thank u for sharing this with us all

xx cazza



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Ravenheart
September 10th | Ravenheart
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thanks for sharing this info

xoxo



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exquisite-flower
September 10th | exquisite-flower
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Thank you for sharing this 'inside story'.

I know that if I personally was in a position to make this kind of call I would be second guessing the social services because of confidentiality - no reason other than human nature and reading too much fiction.  I would also be second guessing the family situation in case I had it wrong and was making a judgement where there was nothing to worry about and I had no business being.

Having said that I am thankful I have never felt the need to make that call, and in all honesty there are times when I have wondered if someone were going to come knocking on my door because the way E used to scream when we had to wash her hair!   It was hair-raising!!  (She had a bad experience where someone was baby-sitting for me and forced her head under a shower head when she was very young).  Thankfully my neighbours know me and E well enough and have said to me was she ok and I have explained the cause, and they have seen the change over the years as E has recovered and gotten used to a hair wash so that now there are no tears and she is offering to do it all herself.  PTL

Peace
EF.x



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